WCS[ASL5] Ro24 Group D - Page 8
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EquilasH
Denmark1116 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome31373 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3224 Posts
On March 20 2018 20:52 GTR wrote: Savior failed to even qualify for the osl multiple times when he was bonjwa, so...last bombing out in the ro24 twice, even struggling to qualify this season. i think it's safe to say he's the most overrated player right now. | ||
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gabrielverlaine
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usopsama
6487 Posts
On March 20 2018 23:50 Alpha-NP- wrote: I wish Flash would grow some **** and choose a Protoss. TvZ too easy for Flash. TvP is also too easy for Flash. Remember the ASL4 semifinals against Bisu? Flash crushed that scrub so bad that he ran away to the army. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom11085 Posts
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BlackJack
United States7211 Posts
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria356 Posts
That being said, Last totally deserved to lose against Miso, what was he thinking? Terran air superiority is on a clock on Sparkle, unless you expand like mad behind the pressure and then tech to BCs or use the window to drop several expansions at once. Mong, on the other hand, just had pretty much everything against him. Last has a consistently better TvT than Mong and he had to play one of the best, if not the best, reaver user - on an island map. | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3015 Posts
Why was he making a control tower?!! Didn't he watch all pvts in Gladiator? The main spot for proxy robo... | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1034 Posts
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crbox
Canada1126 Posts
On March 21 2018 07:57 Alpha-NP- wrote: How could they buff Terran against Zerg on a map patch to Sparkle? Sample size seems a bit too small to jump to conclusion. Isn't weird that, from what i saw in practice (been watching a ton of pro players stream especially when the maps first were released), Zerg would get crushed on Sparkle by Terran, but when it comes to pro matches they prepared much better build. Zerg seems to have a lot of options on that map. Shine opening 4hatch before pool into hydra drops, and Miso opening with a super quick spire (similar to a zvz build sort of). I think the latter will become the standard on this map. | ||
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onlystar
United States694 Posts
but as often its a bit annoying when they display the lack of basic game knowledge, they thought proxy robo with the first reaver rushing to attack the bunker was ''a new style'' or play this is so silly when you think of it they describe it as a hardcounter to the rax cc witch they are correct but if you think about that you know immediately it has been around since terrans started doing that rax cc expands builds.. so that is since like what?? 2005 2006ish? i know for sure the proxy robo build is nothing new and the use of reaver in that matter. every protoss / terran users knows how important the bunker is and how easy it is to take down with reaver splash damage infact its something everyprotoss always try to do when they proxy robo get a few shots of on the bunker (can kill ALOT of scv in that matter even if you dont take down the bunker) if fails fly into the main or either bulldog or elevator its just normal tactics if you choose to go proxy robo to counter the rax cc.. back to the group C god im DEVASTED by this Last such a incredible master at his game blind sighted by an obvious spot to build the proxy even scouting for this but checks only one side!? of the map wtf just my mind is puzzled how could this happen. ( i guess Last fallen into the trap of thinking it was 2gate ranged goon or at least just goon pressure since the goon count piled up quickly and he hadn't been able to scout only saw just goons walking towards him and didn see any proxy robo yet still scouted for this. i bet he wanted to scout with another scv but it was already to late too high goon count at the front of the natural very quickly one of those super gimmicky aspects of that map like how hydra busts are super deadly and just can drop protosses dead with eaz on the map.) and than yea its just so salty the build is so hardcounter to the rax cc no matter how good you are you can just lose to this what happened between snow/last reminds me alot of how Horang2 took out Flash in msl on the same map blind sighting him 2 proxy gates dark in front of the natural flash scouting it to little too late | ||
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Miragee
7276 Posts
Last looked kind of bad on Sparkle. No pressure, no expanding? He did nothing in that game and let Where go up to 6 bases uncontested. He deserved to drop out. I feel a bit bad for Mong but this wasn't the group for him to get out of unfortunately. I don't know about Snow. His PvT seems sharp but I would have liked to see a full game against Last. That build in game 5 proved his balls of steel for sure. I mean, that robo + gateway placement was literally just out of sight and could have easily been scouted. But yeah, without the scout it was a walk-over. | ||
BigFan
TLADT23789 Posts
Sad about Mong but that game vs Mong was really cool. He microed like a champ early on when he dropped Snow's exp but it went downhill and he never recovered. Reavers too strong! ;p | ||
Peeano
Netherlands3126 Posts
If only we could have seen Bisu play on Sparkle... We needed this map back in 2009. So much potential for sick games... | ||
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rackdude
United States803 Posts
On March 21 2018 02:04 StylishVODs wrote: Gotta take into consideration that maps are constructed to shut FlaSh down. I was suprised Mind qualified, but then again he got a TvT=) Also, the answer to SnOw's build is to scout the proxy robo and bunker rush it. fyi That still doesn't sound good though. It's not like early game bunker rushing where Z/P have workers and no units. Here, you're walking into 4 goons with SCVs and 4 marines. The marines cannot be guarded by the SCVs since the goons can just snipe them anyways. This is the whole reason T sits behind the bunker at this stage in the first place. So you're really just throwing a bunch of SCVs out there to get a bunker up and having 6 marines or so come in after its done, hoping to get a few into the bunker and eventually take down the building? At that point, even if you get the bunker up you're going to take pretty heavy losses. The Protoss should easily come out ahead even when they lose the proxy just because you're investing so many workers to get a single bunker up without units supporting it. | ||
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geod
Vietnam388 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3224 Posts
been around since terrans started doing that rax cc expands builds.. No...try 2010...so that is since like what?? 2005 2006ish? | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom11085 Posts
On March 22 2018 02:25 Dazed. wrote: No...try 2010... People were doing Rax Double in late 2008. It was map dependent though. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3224 Posts
On March 22 2018 02:37 Qikz wrote: Which maps?People were doing Rax Double in late 2008. It was map dependent though. | ||
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