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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
March 04 2018 10:46 GMT
#41
On March 02 2018 19:47 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 19:40 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Who's replacing bisu in seeded place?

rain was the winner of the wildcard.


thanks. that's cool! rain should do well!

although... no more bromance between flash and rain during group selection hehe
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Stax736
Profile Joined February 2017
United States119 Posts
March 05 2018 08:49 GMT
#42
On March 02 2018 01:57 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 00:24 Alpha-NP- wrote:
I see every Zerg losing their first game in the ro24. And I am not exaggerating. I honestly think the ro24 is going to be a disaster for Zerg. They'll have to play the game of their life to win, and you can't pull off miracle wins but 1% of the time.
Jaedong v Movie -- I think Jaedong has at least 33% here as well. His perseverance always helped him out in impossible situations and I haven't seen Movie play for at least half a year. He might suck, regardless of what the map is.

So while I agree with your general sentiment, I think giving literally 1% without exaggeration is a tad bit too much.



Do you know why Movie hasn't been playing/streaming?
By.Movie hwaiting
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 10:47:10
March 05 2018 10:42 GMT
#43
On March 05 2018 17:49 Stax736 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 01:57 PVJ wrote:
On March 02 2018 00:24 Alpha-NP- wrote:
I see every Zerg losing their first game in the ro24. And I am not exaggerating. I honestly think the ro24 is going to be a disaster for Zerg. They'll have to play the game of their life to win, and you can't pull off miracle wins but 1% of the time.
Jaedong v Movie -- I think Jaedong has at least 33% here as well. His perseverance always helped him out in impossible situations and I haven't seen Movie play for at least half a year. He might suck, regardless of what the map is.

So while I agree with your general sentiment, I think giving literally 1% without exaggeration is a tad bit too much.



Do you know why Movie hasn't been playing/streaming?

No, sadly, I don't have any idea and I haven't been following his stream/life before so I don't know what might have happened. I just noticed end of last year that he didn't upload any new content to his YT anymore (https://www.youtube.com/user/JmoviestarTV/videos) and that he also didn't manage to participate in ASL4.

Still, it's of course great to see him qualify and I hope he won't suck. I wish him no bad.
The heart's eternal vow
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7002 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 11:16:59
March 05 2018 11:15 GMT
#44
Sparkle and transistor getting update very often hard to tell how well prepared the players will be .but i cant wait to see asl starting already!
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 06 2018 21:05 GMT
#45
Sparkle is an island map, right? How have matches been looking on it / how's the racial balance?
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Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 06 2018 23:21 GMT
#46
On March 07 2018 06:05 ]343[ wrote:
Sparkle is an island map, right? How have matches been looking on it / how's the racial balance?

People will try to argue it is different because of new map edits, but Zerg has been only winning 30% of all games.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 07 2018 02:01 GMT
#47
On March 07 2018 08:21 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 06:05 ]343[ wrote:
Sparkle is an island map, right? How have matches been looking on it / how's the racial balance?

People will try to argue it is different because of new map edits, but Zerg has been only winning 30% of all games.

Zerg is at late game that so weak, special is air units. But first game and mid game, Zerg can use everything to win, this is easier than Terran and Protoss.

My view is Protoss > Terran > Zerg on the Sparkle map. But I believe that 50% Zerg players are still through Ro24.
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portaljester
Profile Joined December 2008
United States6 Posts
March 07 2018 02:43 GMT
#48
On March 07 2018 11:01 bovienchien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 08:21 Alpha-NP- wrote:
On March 07 2018 06:05 ]343[ wrote:
Sparkle is an island map, right? How have matches been looking on it / how's the racial balance?

People will try to argue it is different because of new map edits, but Zerg has been only winning 30% of all games.

Zerg is at late game that so weak, special is air units. But first game and mid game, Zerg can use everything to win, this is easier than Terran and Protoss.

My view is Protoss > Terran > Zerg on the Sparkle map. But I believe that 50% Zerg players are still through Ro24.


Zerg hive tech is amazing vs toss air. Have you seen sairs vs devourers? And let's not mention plague.

New sparkle is a good zerg map, only a few days away i am excited for asl
Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
March 07 2018 05:18 GMT
#49
On March 07 2018 11:43 portaljester wrote:
Zerg hive tech is amazing vs toss air. Have you seen sairs vs devourers? And let's not mention plague.


This is what I keep thinking. Except I've watched several massive devourer balls get obliterated by sairs. I keep thinking, "You're supposed to have a few devourers, and back it up with a ton of mutas." But since the top zergs in the world haven't been doing that, I conclude they know something I don't.

Devourers have an absurdly slow attack speed. If you get opponents covered in lots of purple goo, though, mutas just melt whatever it is. I saw JD employ this strat successfully once. It won, but wasn't as effective as I had been thinking. But it looked like he had too many devs and not enough mutas.

He separated the mutas. I suppose this is wise against 20+sairs. Clearly a pain to do.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 07:33:31
March 07 2018 07:13 GMT
#50
Zerg players can combat with many colors into a unit the same time: Defiler's red, Devourer's purple and Queen's green. It's really strong but It's so difficult to do.

I don't understand Acid Spores of Devourer. Anyone explains it for me, please.

My strategies for Zerg players who will be against Terran and Protoss on the Sparkle map, at the ASL5

Zerg vs Terran

Because of Air units of Terran are very strong whole game. Zerg should control map and getting win by economic. With Sunken Colony and Spore Colony at first game and then Defiler, Hydralisk, Lurker at mid game. Late game, Zerg is just mass Mutalisk to end game. Of course, Zerg takes win game.

Zerg vs Protoss

Because of Corsair unit of Protoss is the their key. I choose Hydralisks to fight with them. It will look like Zerg vs Terran, Zerg will be win by economic. Zerg control almost the map and defend it with Hydralisks and Defiler. Zerg will difficult to dropping into Protoss' base but It's easier than when Zerg drop others one. Zerg need to mass Devourer and Guardian to take win Protoss players.

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Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
March 07 2018 07:39 GMT
#51
On March 07 2018 16:13 bovienchien wrote:
I don't understand Acid Spores of Devourer.


See Devourer

The spores increase damage the unit takes, typically from hydras and mutas.

Compare the damage output from a mutalisk after ricochet. 9-3-1, vs 18-12-10 to a maximally soaked unit.

Spores also reveal cloaked units and slightly increase cooldown.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 07 2018 14:40 GMT
#52
And Devourers make opponents units fire slower.

Cheers bovienchien, ASL5 will be epic.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
March 07 2018 14:53 GMT
#53
Man it has been so long since the last ASL. I need Brood War back in my life. Hyped!
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-07 18:05:20
March 07 2018 18:04 GMT
#54
On March 07 2018 06:05 ]343[ wrote:
Sparkle is an island map, right? How have matches been looking on it / how's the racial balance?

Yes, it's an island map. It has had several revisions because the early versions were seen as Zerg graveyards. The current version is more favorable for Zerg because a center island that formerly contained two vespene geysers, which Terran or Protoss always claimed, has been removed. The jury is still out on whether the map is balanced. Recently, on Jaedong's YouTube channel,
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he beat Rain 2-1 and Shuttle 2-0, with all games on the new version, and looked good doing it.


Personally, I'm cautiously optimistic, although I think it's really inelegant that there's a geyser that literally only Zergs can build on.
May the BeSt man win.
L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
March 07 2018 20:25 GMT
#55
OMG Clam! I might be rooting for a zerg player for once. Nice to see Action as well.
And the island map is hype! Although it's a shame for the zergs. Zergs struggled so much on island maps, and sair reaver is pretty op. Is random or race picking allowed these days?
Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
March 07 2018 23:31 GMT
#56
Calm isn't taking ASL very seriously, at least not on his stream. He has grown his stream in the last few months, but every time I check in he's playing random on a UMS map that can't help him prepare. Seems to be having a blast and that's great, but I doubt Calm and those he's constantly playing with will do very well in ASL.

Too bad, I'd like to see him and some of that bunch go far. Also the group he's in.. Best, Mind, Rush.. he's not getting out of that group without preparing.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51629 Posts
March 08 2018 01:55 GMT
#57
i've seen calm play a large bunch of sponsored matches, so you're probably just tuning in the wrong time
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funnybananaman
Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
March 08 2018 03:20 GMT
#58
Why the fuck is ASL 5 in starcraft Remastered? and why would it be in the BW tourneys section if it is?
Need to sticky threads like this in "other games" or make a full remastered tab for the forum. Bw and Remastered are not the same thing.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
March 08 2018 03:29 GMT
#59
On March 08 2018 12:20 funnybananaman wrote:
Why the fuck is ASL 5 in starcraft Remastered? and why would it be in the BW tourneys section if it is?
Need to sticky threads like this in "other games" or make a full remastered tab for the forum. Bw and Remastered are not the same thing.


Why is it not the same thing, you can press f5 in game to switch instantly.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 08 2018 09:58 GMT
#60
Happy to announce that Afreeca is allowing me cast the ASL5 again! Unfortunately, FlashFTW will be out of commission for this one due to school and IRL stuff. I'll still be streaming on Afreeca, but I'm continually plying the Afreeca team to expand their streaming, so...maybe next season we'll get it on Twitch.

Either way, I'm super excited!

Updates: http://twitter.com/EsportsJohn
Stream: http://www.afreecatv.com/aslenglish3
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