Reach triple proxy gates Jy, who promptly flees the stage upon witnessing the manliness incarnate that is Reach. Reach looks bored, with this "sup bitch" look on his face. Nude nubile supermodels then bear him to the team room on his fancy litter.
Nal_rA stoves sAviOr's noob ass - sAviOr cries. rA smiles in his weird Nal_rA way, takes holy water sprinkler, blesses crowd, sprouts wings, flies off.
Sexy sexy jinho takes the stage shirtless, sending thousands of korean fangirls [and some fanboys] into delirious uncontrollable lust; these rabid supporters then tear Oversky and Iris apart in their mad zeal to reach sexy YellOw. :O
will savior be able to defeat his arch nemesis and win his first televised game since before he was stomped 3-0 by bisu, or will nal_ra be able to stop him once again.
i dont think savior will win. Nal_rA is playing quite strong and sAviOr is still slumpin pretty bad. Maybe the holy war will help bring him out of his slump
OMG, with all the Z v P matches if this reaches ace i will just foam at the mouth & convulse in my chair. It probably will be P v P on Monty Hall, but you never know...
Predictions Sea.Jy <Python> [Oops]Reach MAN MAN MAN sAviOr[gm] <ShinBaekDuDaeGan> Nal_rA its PvZ night, so ima go for the Ps Iris[gm] & Oversky[GsP] <DMZ> [NC]...YellOw & GooDFriend Who cares, its 2v2 Much[gm] <Nemesis> ChOJJa[NC] Lost all faith in chojja a while ago Iris[gm] <Monty Hall> Reach The caveman has come out of hibernation [edit] I just noticed jyv's post for Garimto for ace, so screw Reach and lets see the Patriarch come back and rip Oversky a new one.
Can anyone tell me more about the coach?? I heard stories about the KTF coach beat players with a baseball bat when they lose. So i guess that was what the picture is about.
The picture is really anachronistic - bat jung isn't the coach anymore.
But he was generally scary, and they joked about him beating people with a bat, and then reach's appearance with a cut lip one day furthered the rumors...
I also hear he didn't get along with the zerg twins jinnam/jinsu? something having to do with that KTF-sponsored tournaments.
On April 28 2007 18:44 Last Romantic wrote: The picture is really anachronistic - bat jung isn't the coach anymore.
But he was generally scary, and they joked about him beating people with a bat, and then reach's appearance with a cut lip one day furthered the rumors...
I also hear he didn't get along with the zerg twins jinnam/jinsu? something having to do with that KTF-sponsored tournaments.
but generally a scary guy.
I like this photo.
maybe that's why KTF players who transfer to KTF undergo a severe slump every now and then. just a thought.
On April 28 2007 20:10 boghat wrote: sAviOr isn't slumping.
He lost to Calm -.-z I don't think he's won a game since losing to Bisu 3-0 (other than the one against Nada in Shinhan Masters, but he lost the set 3-1)
On April 28 2007 20:10 boghat wrote: sAviOr isn't slumping.
He lost to Calm -.-z I don't think he's won a game since losing to Bisu 3-0 (other than the one against Nada in Shinhan Masters, but he lost the set 3-1)
He beat casy b4 that in bo5 which was after bisu but b4 nada, but i see your point.
On April 28 2007 20:36 ArC_man wrote: Ah, yea forgot about beating Casy =P
Still how many games has he played? He is already in both MSL and OSL so no qualifiers for him and we havnt seen much of him in proleague either. Maybe he isnt dominating as much as before but to call him slumping is a bit too far imo. Anytime is slumping. If Savior loses 0-3 in both group plays and falls out of both leagues I would agree he is slumping. Against Bisu that was a completly new and effective strategy by bisu and savior had propebly not practiced against it before, maybe it looked like savior played shitty in those games but it wasnt because of him slumping. Against NaDa he lost 1-3 sure... but he also beat nada two times 3-1 during the season before that. He is still #2 on the Power Rank and that is for a reason.
On April 28 2007 20:36 ArC_man wrote: Ah, yea forgot about beating Casy =P
Still how many games has he played? He is already in both MSL and OSL so no qualifiers for him and we havnt seen much of him in proleague either. Maybe he isnt dominating as much as before but to call him slumping is a bit too far imo. Anytime is slumping. If Savior loses 0-3 in both group plays and falls out of both leagues I would agree he is slumping. Against Bisu that was a completly new and effective strategy by bisu and savior had propebly not practiced against it before, maybe it looked like savior played shitty in those games but it wasnt because of him slumping. Against NaDa he lost 1-3 sure... but he also beat nada two times 3-1 during the season before that. He is still #2 on the Power Rank and that is for a reason.
its April 29th man... if savior doesnt show his Savior-ness in the next 3 days, i can see him falling to like 6th. He has been far far from impressive lately, and im seriously doubting my bet i put on CJ. To me, Savior isnt as scary anymore. Before I had nightmares about him, but now hes like a cute fluffy bunny. Okay not that far, hes still good, but not as sAviOr like before.
Ahahaha I like it when the camera pans onto a bunch of the "fan girls" and then one realizes it, and immediately bows her head down or puts her hands over her face. Of course all the other girls next to her notice, and *bam* it's like a wave and in a matter of seconds you can't see any more girls.
Zerg expo blocked and almost killed drone with probe. Reach is rushing with 1 gate because his zees are awesome. Sexiness. Zerg forced to pool first, then hatch in main.
reach getting range and adding goons, probes have to run, Reaver goes dumb and dies, who was it that was saying reavers being dumb in pvz doesnt matter?
reaver is now in shuttle and reach is pressuring jy's base with his army of zealots and dragoon
but jy scouts reaches robo and jy is sending everything to reaches base
OH FUCK SO MANY LINGS KILLING REACHES SHIT BUT REEACH IS SHUTTLING HIS ARMY TO JYS BASE OH FUCK THERE GOES HIS REAVER HOLY SHIT SO GAY AGG WHERE ARE YOU HERO?
I think it was a matter of a dumb mistake. Jy saw an opening, took advantage of it swiftly. Think reach was going to go 3 gate reaver -> expo, a rather slow build against speedling harass. I suppose reach was expecting a passive 3 hatch lair tech build for him to take advantage of.
On April 28 2007 22:23 G.s)NarutO wrote: 'Whoever did not have MBC vs Hanbit turned on and missed the winner ceremony of jyun will be sad for life, gg:D
On April 28 2007 22:23 G.s)NarutO wrote: 'Whoever did not have MBC vs Hanbit turned on and missed the winner ceremony of jyun will be sad for life, gg:D
4 Pepsi ads in a row....someone needs to talk to korean tv about their advertising and that brute force craming it down my throat doesn't work (despite the fact that im singing that "im gonna pounce" song in my head ^_^)
On April 28 2007 22:28 Equinox_kr wrote: HonestTea's criticism of Reach in his blog really makes sense:
Reach: Doesn't understand modern PvZ.
Although I didn't watch game, I am FURIOUS HE LOST T_T
I think honestea's thread was pretty stupid. boxer has won many games without all in push, how do you all in push when there are carriers? and how can reach understand modern pvz, he has barely played "modern" pvz. Plus just because savior has made different build orders, suddenly he "plays funky, plays mozart " etc etc, big deal, like omg he played 4 pool he is soo versatile~~~
plus the whole thing about savior winning, his dominance was one of the shortest in progaming compared to boxer, nada, oov, july
fuck nada and oov have won 3 msl's back to back, plus 3 osl's to nada, 2 to oov, savior hasn't won 3 msl's backtoback, and just one osl so far.. he is the least dominant from all the big forces.
On April 28 2007 22:28 Equinox_kr wrote: HonestTea's criticism of Reach in his blog really makes sense:
Reach: Doesn't understand modern PvZ.
Although I didn't watch game, I am FURIOUS HE LOST T_T
I think honestea's thread was pretty stupid. boxer has won many games without all in push, how do you all in push when there are carriers? and how can reach understand modern pvz, he has barely played "modern" pvz. Plus just because savior has made different build orders, suddenly he "plays funky, plays mozart " etc etc, big deal, like omg he played 4 pool he is soo versatile~~~
plus the whole thing about savior winning, his dominance was one of the shortest in progaming compared to boxer, nada, oov, july
fuck nada and oov have won 3 msl's back to back, plus 3 osl's to nada, 2 to oov, savior hasn't won 3 msl's backtoback, and just one osl so far.. he is the least dominant from all the big forces.
To say savior is not dominant anymore over a few loses is stupid. July got back in form afte his 0-3 loss vs Nada in that painful and gay IOPS final. Boxer fell through a few years, came back, and delivered more punches. They are strong players, and savior has shown his human form, not the end of his dominance.
When Ra gets old, he's going to look like one of those "I'm happily wiser than you" guys. His face looks both intelligent and cheery almost all the time.
1st cannon for ra behind mineral line, savior tries to go drone the cannon, but ra blocks it off with pylon. 1st zeal arrives at nat, attacking drones, preventing sunks. 1 drone dies.
lings attack the pylons powering cannon, lings die to cannon, eventually savior kills zeal blocking path to cannon, kills it off starts nat hatch. sair out, haha ra cancelled that 2nd stargate and got citadel.
On April 28 2007 22:46 himurakenshin wrote: that was awesome, I wonder how the great savior, who can do nothing but win lost to a cannon rush
Well now, let's not pretend savior has been anything but a disappointment lately. He's been the weakest player in CJ's top line up since he lost to Bisu in MSL finals.
So um... first post, been visiting a long time, Anyways where is everybody watching these games at, and more importantly how can i watch them too. Great live reporting so far, and this is an awesome site.
On April 28 2007 22:46 himurakenshin wrote: that was awesome, I wonder how the great savior, who can do nothing but win lost to a cannon rush
Well now, let's not pretend savior has been anything but a disappointment lately. He's been the weakest player in CJ's top line up since he lost to Bisu in MSL finals.
On April 28 2007 22:28 Equinox_kr wrote: HonestTea's criticism of Reach in his blog really makes sense:
Reach: Doesn't understand modern PvZ.
Although I didn't watch game, I am FURIOUS HE LOST T_T
I think honestea's thread was pretty stupid. boxer has won many games without all in push, how do you all in push when there are carriers? and how can reach understand modern pvz, he has barely played "modern" pvz. Plus just because savior has made different build orders, suddenly he "plays funky, plays mozart " etc etc, big deal, like omg he played 4 pool he is soo versatile~~~
plus the whole thing about savior winning, his dominance was one of the shortest in progaming compared to boxer, nada, oov, july
fuck nada and oov have won 3 msl's back to back, plus 3 osl's to nada, 2 to oov, savior hasn't won 3 msl's backtoback, and just one osl so far.. he is the least dominant from all the big forces.
To say savior is not dominant anymore over a few loses is stupid. July got back in form afte his 0-3 loss vs Nada in that painful and gay IOPS final. Boxer fell through a few years, came back, and delivered more punches. They are strong players, and savior has shown his human form, not the end of his dominance.
How is losing to a cheese move be indicative of slumping? absolutely all and every zerg player would have lost that game once the cannon started to build behind the minerals.
On April 28 2007 22:50 mrdx wrote: Feeling kinda bad for Savior. Surprisingly I no longer deeply hate him like I used to. :'(
Whenever a new player emerges and starts owning he gets a lot of hate since he defeated people's favourite players. I iirc Boxer was hated as well for a while when he emerged.
On April 28 2007 22:50 mrdx wrote: Feeling kinda bad for Savior. Surprisingly I no longer deeply hate him like I used to. :'(
Whenever a new player emerges and starts owning he gets a lot of hate since he defeated people's favourite players. I iirc Boxer was hated as well for a while when he emerged.
Whoa your old school? Who the hell did you like back then? Grrr? Hot-forever? themarine?
On April 28 2007 22:50 s4life wrote: How is losing to a cheese move be indicative of slumping? absolutely all and every zerg player would have lost that game once the cannon started to build behind the minerals.
I believe during Savior's peak last few months it would be much less likely for him to lose to that cheese (or actually any kind of cheese).
Many people will change their opinions on Savior now that hes not that invincible emotionless steamroller he was before. I liked him from the very beginning tho.
On April 28 2007 22:46 himurakenshin wrote: that was awesome, I wonder how the great savior, who can do nothing but win lost to a cannon rush
Well now, let's not pretend savior has been anything but a disappointment lately. He's been the weakest player in CJ's top line up since he lost to Bisu in MSL finals.
On April 28 2007 22:28 Equinox_kr wrote: HonestTea's criticism of Reach in his blog really makes sense:
Reach: Doesn't understand modern PvZ.
Although I didn't watch game, I am FURIOUS HE LOST T_T
I think honestea's thread was pretty stupid. boxer has won many games without all in push, how do you all in push when there are carriers? and how can reach understand modern pvz, he has barely played "modern" pvz. Plus just because savior has made different build orders, suddenly he "plays funky, plays mozart " etc etc, big deal, like omg he played 4 pool he is soo versatile~~~
plus the whole thing about savior winning, his dominance was one of the shortest in progaming compared to boxer, nada, oov, july
fuck nada and oov have won 3 msl's back to back, plus 3 osl's to nada, 2 to oov, savior hasn't won 3 msl's backtoback, and just one osl so far.. he is the least dominant from all the big forces.
To say savior is not dominant anymore over a few loses is stupid. July got back in form afte his 0-3 loss vs Nada in that painful and gay IOPS final. Boxer fell through a few years, came back, and delivered more punches. They are strong players, and savior has shown his human form, not the end of his dominance.
I see, so you were being sarcastic?
I disagree with QI's Savior analysis. He's in full blown slump mode right now. I haven't seen a decent game out of him in months.
On April 28 2007 22:46 himurakenshin wrote: that was awesome, I wonder how the great savior, who can do nothing but win lost to a cannon rush
Well now, let's not pretend savior has been anything but a disappointment lately. He's been the weakest player in CJ's top line up since he lost to Bisu in MSL finals.
That was in response to this
On April 28 2007 22:35 QuietIdiot wrote:
On April 28 2007 22:31 himurakenshin wrote:
On April 28 2007 22:28 Equinox_kr wrote: HonestTea's criticism of Reach in his blog really makes sense:
Reach: Doesn't understand modern PvZ.
Although I didn't watch game, I am FURIOUS HE LOST T_T
I think honestea's thread was pretty stupid. boxer has won many games without all in push, how do you all in push when there are carriers? and how can reach understand modern pvz, he has barely played "modern" pvz. Plus just because savior has made different build orders, suddenly he "plays funky, plays mozart " etc etc, big deal, like omg he played 4 pool he is soo versatile~~~
plus the whole thing about savior winning, his dominance was one of the shortest in progaming compared to boxer, nada, oov, july
fuck nada and oov have won 3 msl's back to back, plus 3 osl's to nada, 2 to oov, savior hasn't won 3 msl's backtoback, and just one osl so far.. he is the least dominant from all the big forces.
To say savior is not dominant anymore over a few loses is stupid. July got back in form afte his 0-3 loss vs Nada in that painful and gay IOPS final. Boxer fell through a few years, came back, and delivered more punches. They are strong players, and savior has shown his human form, not the end of his dominance.
I see, so you were being sarcastic?
I disagree with QI's Savior analysis. He's in full blown slump mode right now. I haven't seen a decent game out of him in months.
On April 28 2007 22:50 s4life wrote: How is losing to a cheese move be indicative of slumping? absolutely all and every zerg player would have lost that game once the cannon started to build behind the minerals.
I believe during Savior's peak last few months it would be much less likely for him to lose to that cheese (or actually any kind of cheese).
More like none had the balls to try it out on him. Lately most of them are trying their luck with some sort of early cheese because they've realized that's probably the best chance they have of beating him.
GF's scv's eject oversky's drones from his own base, pools done for both players, GF fucks up and doesnt kill the lings as they come out, 6 lings out for oversky.
yellow's drones mining noramlally now, iris' scv's go back to his base i think? Ah they're back now with oversky's lings
i woke up so early after my birthday party only to find out that I have missed reach na Ra and I am watching some workers going around the map hahahahahahaah
On April 28 2007 22:56 sweatpants wrote: Signature Ra again! Thank you for making up for your boring opening game (edit: into this Proleague season), Kang Min!
On April 28 2007 22:46 himurakenshin wrote: that was awesome, I wonder how the great savior, who can do nothing but win lost to a cannon rush
You, my friend, are talking out of your ass.
what? I am saying that nal_ra's play was great. I was being sarcastic in response to Honestea and quiteidiot's response regarding how savior is not slumping and "birds fly ppl fuck savior wins"
edit: sorry, I see you are supporting savior, I misread your post
On April 28 2007 23:13 sweatpants wrote: GOD AS MUCH AS I LOVE YOU, MUCH, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE FALL TO THE GNOME. SAVIOR WILL FUCKING GO TO ACE. RA WILL MEET HIM THERE.
On April 28 2007 23:13 sweatpants wrote: GOD AS MUCH AS I LOVE YOU, MUCH, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE FALL TO THE GNOME. SAVIOR WILL FUCKING GO TO ACE. RA WILL MEET HIM THERE.
Lol, himura, yea I'm supporting sAviOr (too). All in good fun though! Man this would be SO epic if they met again. I think both teams KNOW who they have to send. Savior was smiling for a reason. Because coach Cho just told him that Much is going to probe rush.
On April 28 2007 23:11 s4life wrote: yellow lost that game for KTF when he lost all his lings before gf arrived in oversky's base... hahah gg tho
er what... if anything GF not killing oversky's first 6 lings with his scv was the biggest blunder of the game...
Well, just before they attacked oversky all in, yellow had almost the same number of lings as oversky... but once gf arrived there with rines and scvs he had half of them... he had lost the other half with bad micro trapped in the ramp... end result=the couldn't finish oversky
that was an epic DMZ game, seems like the earlier pool (was it 7?) is key to be able to mine enough to get out 6 lings. but goodfriend sucked it up bad
Poll: Gnomey? (Vote): Fast gate rape (Vote): fast cannon rape (Vote): Timing rush death (Vote): Failing to do cheese and suffocating (Vote): Long game, ends up with him losing epic bouts (Vote): STFU IF CHILD CAN DO IT SO CAN CHOJJA GOGO
On April 28 2007 23:19 MyCube wrote: 2-0 Chojja's record this year in PL
I believe!
Hm? Savior's record is 2-1 this PL season. 2-2 counting this loss.
The first loss was a ZvZ against Inter.Calm on Geometry. It's the map that savior can NOT get used to (remember his miserable performance in Shinhan Masters?) But he DID lose a ZvZ which is 60% a Rock-Paper-Scissors match. But here's why savior is NOt out of his slump. In a match where he should have lost immediately, he somehow stayed alive for about 3 minutes before he should have, scoring hits here and there- basically taking all the glory away from Inter.Calm for winning. In the end, he tapped GG almost out of boredom of waiting for the enemy to finish him. Again, this happenned with Ra tonight. The build should have blind sighted him, but there were still moments where you were thinking.. ".....maybe?"
His two wins were 2v2's with Much. One of them was a double nydus ^_^ P.I.M.P.
AND WHAT THE FUCK IS CHOJJA DOING!!?
Edit: SoRRY DUDE, I thought you were talking about Savior. LOL
I do NOT understand why you would sunken up main, ling sneak retreat to 1 zealot on a WIDE open ramp, cancel nat + hidden expo, then try all-in ling as desperation move. That was a MASSIVE brain fart on Chojja's part, I have not seen worse decision making in the pros ever.
weak build by chojja, he should show some more respect to his opponent. that hidden expo was way too obvious... given that much had scouted chojja's base and saw that chojja's stuff was super slow. much even doubled back and rechecked chojja's nat at one point to confirm there wasn't a hatch there.
maybe if he pooled first and denied scouting or something
This is all part of Saviors plan. He feeds on darkness. He needs to kill the bright and happy feelings that started to grow in him and replace them with evil before the individual leagues start.
On April 28 2007 23:37 Breavman wrote: This is all part of Saviors plan. He feeds on darkness. He needs to kill the bright and happy feelings that started to grow in him and replace them with evil before the individual leagues start.
EPT
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