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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
November 26 2015 11:41 GMT
#101
On November 26 2015 20:40 c3rberUs wrote:
Free should have gone carriers.


I don't feel like he was ever in a safe place to do that.

I agree with you, if you believe that the investment in the double shuttle against the macro terran of the world (other then flash) was a bad idea.

But I don't think his early game or mid game allowed that.
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
November 26 2015 11:42 GMT
#102
Arcadia... the new Heartbreak Ridge of this tournament?
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
November 26 2015 11:43 GMT
#103
Very nice showing from Sea, finally putting his abilities on display offline.

Devastating backstab with the vultures after free finally broke through the tank push.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
November 26 2015 11:43 GMT
#104
On November 26 2015 20:42 HyralGambit wrote:
Arcadia... the new Heartbreak Ridge of this tournament?



I don't feel like protoss can play standard and get a fair footing in the early mid-game.

c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
November 26 2015 11:45 GMT
#105
On November 26 2015 20:41 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 20:40 c3rberUs wrote:
Free should have gone carriers.


I don't feel like he was ever in a safe place to do that.

I agree with you, if you believe that the investment in the double shuttle against the macro terran of the world (other then flash) was a bad idea.

But I don't think his early game or mid game allowed that.

I was half-joking when I said that haha.

I think the double shuttle play could have been better with the amount of zealots (aka snipe more tanks.)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
November 26 2015 11:45 GMT
#106
Vultures though. Urggghhhhh
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
November 26 2015 11:48 GMT
#107
On November 26 2015 20:45 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 20:41 AttackZerg wrote:
On November 26 2015 20:40 c3rberUs wrote:
Free should have gone carriers.


I don't feel like he was ever in a safe place to do that.

I agree with you, if you believe that the investment in the double shuttle against the macro terran of the world (other then flash) was a bad idea.

But I don't think his early game or mid game allowed that.

I was half-joking when I said that haha.

I think the double shuttle play could have been better with the amount of zealots (aka snipe more tanks.)



Yeah, I think that would have been a valid and logical use.
Instead of committing them to the main, maintain them for the first big skirmish.

Two more shuttles of zealots in the big showdown or in the final smaller one could have made a difference.

Carriers are pimp if you can get them before 3/3 for terran.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
November 26 2015 11:49 GMT
#108
On November 26 2015 20:43 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 20:42 HyralGambit wrote:
Arcadia... the new Heartbreak Ridge of this tournament?



I don't feel like protoss can play standard and get a fair footing in the early mid-game.



2 base carriers would be the most legit build imo. You really need to not let terrans get a comfortable 3 base macro going otherwise they can leapfrog to you in 10 seconds
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
November 26 2015 11:51 GMT
#109
On November 26 2015 20:49 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 20:43 AttackZerg wrote:
On November 26 2015 20:42 HyralGambit wrote:
Arcadia... the new Heartbreak Ridge of this tournament?



I don't feel like protoss can play standard and get a fair footing in the early mid-game.



2 base carriers would be the most legit build imo. You really need to not let terrans get a comfortable 3 base macro going otherwise they can leapfrog to you in 10 seconds


Totally.

I think a well timmed 3 base terran push might be niegh impossible to beat without a really clever gimmick.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51083 Posts
November 26 2015 11:52 GMT
#110
you can totally turtle on your main/natural and island base into carriers if its not vertical spawns.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
November 26 2015 11:56 GMT
#111
Cross positions changes things a lot.

I think holding ground in the center maybe incredibly easy for terran regardless. Sea played very fluid too, so maybe his smooth showing is tainting my perception.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
November 26 2015 12:09 GMT
#112
The thing with close spawn is that Sea can go for a really fast pre-carrier timing vs 2 base carrier.

I need to watch the game again to see how Free could have gone away with a win.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-26 12:47:04
November 26 2015 12:46 GMT
#113
Damn. Sounds like I missed one or two good games.
Will have to play catchup.
Haven't seen Arcadia in a while. Old(er) school map.

edit: Nice, KCM Legend Match in fifteen.
Dking6296
Profile Joined November 2015
United States3 Posts
November 27 2015 08:12 GMT
#114
Great games, what a time to be alive
I'll always miss Air force ACE. Fan forever!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 12:29:52
November 27 2015 11:47 GMT
#115
nooo, july.
1 sunken and u were there. I dont understand why he didnt built a sunken. He had both economic and tech advantage. That was too greedy.

Sea vs Free was beautiful to watch. Glad to see Free playing different style, much like a Jangbi shuttle aggression.
Luv ya BroodWar!
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
November 27 2015 23:57 GMT
#116
Nice to see some coverage and post-match interviews from FOMOS and OSEN

http://osen.mt.co.kr/article/G1110302839
http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?entry_id=17439

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dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-28 03:16:49
November 28 2015 03:15 GMT
#117
vods
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
November 28 2015 03:31 GMT
#118
Finally coverage from korean news sites.

Oh and thanks for the links
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