I don't feel like he was ever in a safe place to do that.

I agree with you, if you believe that the investment in the double shuttle against the macro terran of the world (other then flash) was a bad idea.

But I don't think his early game or mid game allowed that.

HyralGambit

2439 Posts

November 26 2015 11:42 GMT

#102

Arcadia... the new Heartbreak Ridge of this tournament?

prech

United States2948 Posts

November 26 2015 11:43 GMT

#103

Very nice showing from

Sea, finally putting his abilities on display offline.

Devastating backstab with the vultures after

free finally broke through the tank push.

AttackZerg

United States7659 Posts

November 26 2015 11:43 GMT

#104

On November 26 2015 20:42 HyralGambit wrote:
Arcadia... the new Heartbreak Ridge of this tournament?

I don't feel like protoss can play standard and get a fair footing in the early mid-game.

c3rberUs

Japan11827 Posts

November 26 2015 11:45 GMT

#105

On November 26 2015 20:41 AttackZerg wrote:

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I was half-joking when I said that haha.

I think the double shuttle play could have been better with the amount of zealots (aka snipe more tanks.)

c3rberUs

Japan11827 Posts

November 26 2015 11:45 GMT

#106

Vultures though. Urggghhhhh

AttackZerg

United States7659 Posts

November 26 2015 11:48 GMT

#107

On November 26 2015 20:45 c3rberUs wrote:

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I was half-joking when I said that haha.

I think the double shuttle play could have been better with the amount of zealots (aka snipe more tanks.)

Yeah, I think that would have been a valid and logical use.
Instead of committing them to the main, maintain them for the first big skirmish.

Two more shuttles of zealots in the big showdown or in the final smaller one could have made a difference.

Carriers are pimp if you can get them before 3/3 for terran.

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

November 26 2015 11:49 GMT

#108

On November 26 2015 20:43 AttackZerg wrote:

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I don't feel like protoss can play standard and get a fair footing in the early mid-game.

2 base carriers would be the most legit build imo. You really need to not let terrans get a comfortable 3 base macro going otherwise they can leapfrog to you in 10 seconds

AttackZerg

United States7659 Posts

November 26 2015 11:51 GMT

#109

On November 26 2015 20:49 amazingxkcd wrote:

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2 base carriers would be the most legit build imo. You really need to not let terrans get a comfortable 3 base macro going otherwise they can leapfrog to you in 10 seconds

Totally.

I think a well timmed 3 base terran push might be niegh impossible to beat without a really clever gimmick.

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES51623 Posts

November 26 2015 11:52 GMT

#110

you can totally turtle on your main/natural and island base into carriers if its not vertical spawns.

AttackZerg

United States7659 Posts

November 26 2015 11:56 GMT

#111

Cross positions changes things a lot.

I think holding ground in the center maybe incredibly easy for terran regardless. Sea played very fluid too, so maybe his smooth showing is tainting my perception.

c3rberUs

Japan11827 Posts

November 26 2015 12:09 GMT

#112

The thing with close spawn is that Sea can go for a really fast pre-carrier timing vs 2 base carrier.

I need to watch the game again to see how Free could have gone away with a win.

feckless

1099 Posts

November 26 2015 12:46 GMT

#113

Damn. Sounds like I missed one or two good games.
Will have to play catchup.
Haven't seen Arcadia in a while. Old(er) school map.

edit: Nice, KCM Legend Match in fifteen.

Dking6296

United States3 Posts

November 27 2015 08:12 GMT

#114

Great games, what a time to be alive

_Animus_

Bulgaria1064 Posts

November 27 2015 11:47 GMT

#115

nooo, july.
1 sunken and u were there. I dont understand why he didnt built a sunken. He had both economic and tech advantage. That was too greedy.

Sea vs Free was beautiful to watch. Glad to see Free playing different style, much like a Jangbi shuttle aggression.