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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-21 22:28:41
September 21 2015 22:28 GMT
#261
On September 21 2015 17:28 Freakling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 12:38 fearthequeen wrote:
any vods? there don't seem to be any saved on hitbox

^?!

I think Voddy/Nina are easily becoming my favourite casting duo. I like that analytical style.


tsts he just left me out... (;;

no seriously i liked the cast too. Voddy was a nice addition, bringing a lot of useful background info to the table i think :>
Broodwar for life!
iwl-fuNny
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation74 Posts
September 22 2015 05:47 GMT
#262
remove Neo and Hanzo from roster plz. and add Ramms. thx
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6741 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 12:19:50
September 22 2015 12:17 GMT
#263
So today glio is asking me to cancel the pp and take win,and this totally broke the manner of the nw,if the day of the nw we didnt agreed for pp i will be ok with it,gg no re and good luck for next,but how can you come to pp and after 2 days ask for win ?i dont get this kind of move.

i wont be mad or anything if the ornanization gave france the win since they agreed to pp a match as we agreed that they could change the player they wanted,but this is just a coward move imo.
KenZy
Profile Joined February 2009
France93 Posts
September 22 2015 16:41 GMT
#264
"i wont be mad or anything if the ornanization gave france the win since they agreed to pp a match as we agreed that they could change the player they wanted,but this is just a coward move imo."

I think you are.

First of all rules are : PP matches must be scheduled a minimum of 24 hours before hand with league organizers
You didn't ask for a PP you can't PP match rules are rules.

Glio is not our leader you asked our player, not our leader, he didn't know what to do so he accepted because as you know Glio is manner but when we heard about it none of our members were agree with it. We were here in time, Dsaqwe didn't ask to PP his match and Glio came while he could have done something esle of his sunday.

We won't PP this match, sorry.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 16:56:08
September 22 2015 16:51 GMT
#265
Since both teams make an agreement for postponing the set instead of walkover, that set should be played. I was there and confirmed that there can be PP if Glio does not want to take the w.o.
Problem is that postponed set was about to be played by Kenzy for France and his team decided that without his approval.

With that decision made, French team will have to pick another player who can play as substitute for this match, if Kenzy and Glio are unavailable.
Luv ya BroodWar!
KenZy
Profile Joined February 2009
France93 Posts
September 22 2015 16:55 GMT
#266
Animus who accepted ? Glio ? Myu is the leader and i'm the one who have to play. You didn't ask the 2 keys members so no, we don't have to play this game. You made rules and you are not following them now. Why ? Because it's Eonzerg ?
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 17:05:58
September 22 2015 16:56 GMT
#267
On September 22 2015 21:17 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
So today glio is asking me to cancel the pp and take win,and this totally broke the manner of the nw,if the day of the nw we didnt agreed for pp i will be ok with it,gg no re and good luck for next,but how can you come to pp and after 2 days ask for win ?i dont get this kind of move.

i wont be mad or anything if the ornanization gave france the win since they agreed to pp a match as we agreed that they could change the player they wanted,but this is just a coward move imo.


Hey, keep cool

I friendly asked you if you agreed with that, you simply could have answered your refusal in PM, and that's it. No need to have an useless argument here.
I took a hasty decision to agree for pp the match at the end of the CW, even if it was normally W.O for us but we didn't planned any date for the match, and the other involved players weren't present to agree with that. My bad for that.
It would have been a dick move if our match was already planned, but we still don't have any news from dsaqwe or any date planned.

So maybe let's wait for Animus decision

Sorry for the inconvenience.

"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
CNFremAN
Profile Joined May 2011
France20 Posts
September 22 2015 17:07 GMT
#268
Dear Animus,

I understand your point of view, but please understand ours.

The player involved in this match (Kenzy) & the manager were not aware and asked concerning this issue (who are reponsible of decisions). Since the begining of the tournament, we have also encountered some trouble making our player to be there on time. When a player is not here to play, and we didn't forecast a postpone, that player don't play the match. The reason to this is that we are following rules.

It is not easy to take a decision concerning this kind of issue, but according to me, rules are rules and need to be respected.

What disappoint me a little bit is that our manners are compromised because we respected rules and our opponents who does not, is seen as the victim there.

We need to have a clear vision of what we can, and what we can't do in order to organize and manage our team as best as we can.

I hope you understand my point of view.
nGFremAN
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 17:30:48
September 22 2015 17:17 GMT
#269
On September 23 2015 02:07 CNFremAN wrote:
What disappoint me a little bit is that our manners are compromised because we respected rules and our opponents who does not, is seen as the victim there.

No one isn't following the rules. It's just a special case.
Let's not make this insignificant situation a big deal.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 17:56:36
September 22 2015 17:37 GMT
#270
On September 23 2015 01:55 KenZy wrote:
Animus who accepted?

I accepted.
On September 23 2015 01:55 KenZy wrote:
Myu is the leader and i'm the one who have to play. You didn't ask the 2 keys members so no, we don't have to play this game. You made rules and you are not following them now. Why ?


Negotiations about postponements and other stuff is between you - the teams. I can only approve or disapprove.
Since glio didnt want to take W.O. and i was asked for PP match i said ok. If players have good will about it, its better to have more games played than walkovers.
You didnt knew anything about it so you should not feel forced to play or anything.
I cant give you a win if other team didnt decide to return the gesture and forfeit the set, nor i can give dsaqwe win by walkover because it will be real bad manner against Glio. According to the situation, if France dont manage to schedule this match the set will be counted as draw.



Luv ya BroodWar!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6741 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 17:58:31
September 22 2015 17:53 GMT
#271
frenchutes...
Kenzy as i said i wont be mad for a decision take by the organization,this doesnt mean im not mad with France team,indeed im ,Kenzy do u know you need a leader to submit the line up and make the nw happen?,i guess you dont,anyway as i said before glio was nice enough to agree a pp ,now im sure nothing of this has nothing to with him but with france players scared to loss i guess,dsaqwe told me he was coming 100% thats the only reason i didnt put catspaw to play 1v1,but at the end he didnt so yeah.
Animus i confirm here you can gave the win to France,they no caring to play.and i wont acept a draw for this.we want to play and win or loss.
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
September 22 2015 17:53 GMT
#272
So, just as an interested bystander, the lessons are:

1) it doesn't matter who an organizer is, because in the end, his decisions don't matter and they're not needed.

2) never agree to a pp, because you might get a draw instead of chances to win.

or what?
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 18:12:40
September 22 2015 18:00 GMT
#273
On September 23 2015 02:53 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Animus i confirm here you can gave the win to France,they no caring to play.

Thank you for being good mannered and return the gesture.

The following is concerning all the teams.

From now on if you get approval by admin for postponements or substitutions, both team leaders of the negotiating teams must post in the thread or send pm to EBPNationwars account with clarification on their agreement. Otherwise match, set or game will be not be counted as valid.
Luv ya BroodWar!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6741 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 18:06:27
September 22 2015 18:01 GMT
#274
also in the second *post of this thread glio is listed as leader together with myu,why now you all saying he is not ?
France
fr nG.Myu fr nG.Glio
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 18:08:21
September 22 2015 18:02 GMT
#275
On September 23 2015 03:01 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
also in the second page of this thread glio is listed as leader together with myu,why now you all saying he is not ?
France
fr nG.Myu fr nG.Glio

Thats also what i thought, french team please give clarification on this.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Atom[Bomb]
Profile Joined July 2015
Sweden108 Posts
September 22 2015 18:14 GMT
#276
Anyone knows the results from Week1 Hungary vs Baltic United:
Normal vs Zeratul??
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 18:26:44
September 22 2015 18:18 GMT
#277
voddy was a great addition in the cast!
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
EBPNationWars
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
Great Britain245 Posts
September 22 2015 18:38 GMT
#278
On September 23 2015 03:14 Atom[Bomb] wrote:
Anyone knows the results from Week1 Hungary vs Baltic United:
Normal vs Zeratul??

+ Show Spoiler +
2-0 for normal
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 18:57:19
September 22 2015 18:42 GMT
#279
On September 23 2015 03:02 _Animus_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 03:01 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
also in the second page of this thread glio is listed as leader together with myu,why now you all saying he is not ?
France
fr nG.Myu fr nG.Glio

Thats also what i thought, french team please give clarification on this.


I'm the co-leader so I was the official leader this sunday, Myu not being available. Otherwise I wouldn't have taken any decision. It seems there has also been some misunderstanding in our ranks xd.
Again sorry for the inconvenience
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 19:45:42
September 22 2015 19:39 GMT
#280
On September 23 2015 03:42 Glioburd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 03:02 _Animus_ wrote:
On September 23 2015 03:01 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
also in the second page of this thread glio is listed as leader together with myu,why now you all saying he is not ?
France
fr nG.Myu fr nG.Glio

Thats also what i thought, french team please give clarification on this.


I'm the co-leader so I was the official leader this sunday, Myu not being available. Otherwise I wouldn't have taken any decision. It seems there has also been some misunderstanding in our ranks xd.
Again sorry for the inconvenience

Its really an misunderstanding, as kenzy and myu said you arent the one who can make such decisions. However the set has already been decided in your favor.
I hope you will clarify your positions and with the additional rule about postponements and substitutions i wrote we will avoid such situations in the future.
Luv ya BroodWar!
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