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[LoveTV] Larva vs free Dec 12

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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 20:06:47
December 12 2014 01:37 GMT
#1

LoveTV Sponsored Match: (Z)Larva vs (P)free Best of 5

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Friday, Dec 12 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


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(loser picks)
< Odd-Eye >
< Bifrost 3 >
< Katrina >
<Neo Harmony>

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Best of 5
Winner takes 500 Balloons.
Additional balloons for 3 and 4 killing sprees.
Sponsored by: 연예인님

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On December 12 2014 22:42 Mirabel_ wrote:
To sum up - spoilered
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Game 1: Fighting Spirit cross spawns (Larva wins)
Game 2: Odd-Eye 3 (Larva wins)
Game 3: Neo Harmony (Free wins)
Game 4: Bifrost III (Larva wins)
Boring series to Larva 3-1.


If you're going to watch one of these games, Game 3 on Neo Harmony was short and sweet, the rest were very standard and slow-paced, and better for player analysis than entertainment. In each of the winner's games, the loser just made the first mistake and it went gradually downhill from there. Larva and free are very passive, cerebral players and there wasn't a lot of critical unit control although both players exhibited strong micro - the games were lost at the tactical level, and the winner was subtly outplaying the loser on all other fronts.





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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
December 12 2014 06:48 GMT
#2
It's insane to think that in this modern day of BW a no name B-teamer SKT zerg would be the favorite vs one of the Six Dragons. Post-Kespa BW you cray.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
December 12 2014 07:15 GMT
#3
"No name B-teamer" included, at one point in their careers, (T)Flash, (Z)Jaedong, and (P)Bisu
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 07:48:23
December 12 2014 07:46 GMT
#4
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Larva 42W 15L
(P)Bisu vs (P)free 10W 4L

Larva may not be taking many games off Bisu, but he plays him all the time (even much more than these 140508 - 141113 spon stats would suggest) and that practice sure pays off.

.. and he appears to be a ZvP specialist to begin with:

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En Taro Violet
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 12 2014 09:49 GMT
#5
Haven't quite been able to figure it out, Larva's stats look HORRIBLE in vT and vZ, and while those are clearly much weaker for him he still holds his own in SOSPA competition and has even made some deep runs.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 12 2014 09:59 GMT
#6
Free used to be one of the top PvZers but Free can be called old school now right?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 12 2014 12:21 GMT
#7
Larva pls burrow lurkers D:
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
December 12 2014 12:23 GMT
#8
On December 12 2014 16:15 prech wrote:
"No name B-teamer" included, at one point in their careers, (T)Flash, (Z)Jaedong, and (P)Bisu

True, but they weren't cursed as an SKT zerg.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 12 2014 12:24 GMT
#9
Free's going to be trapped.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 12 2014 12:29 GMT
#10
ppp from Larva wtf
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
December 12 2014 12:35 GMT
#11
1-0 Larvitar after over half an hour
get stronger play longer
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 12 2014 12:36 GMT
#12
Larva played good there. Let's see if it's a one time thing.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
December 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#13
Kek, free asking for next map Odyssey.
En Taro Violet
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 12 2014 12:58 GMT
#14
I'm watching free's stream and I didn't expect him to be crushed at Larva's nat with such a large army.
ॐ
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
December 12 2014 13:04 GMT
#15
Yeah it seems like Larva is winning without really doing anything. I suspect that free's macro is failing him, because he wasn't reinforcing well at all compared to Larva.
get stronger play longer
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
December 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#16
Map order was Fighting Spirit, Odd-Eye, Neo Harmony.

Neo Harmony had the players spawn close, Larva at bottom left and free at bottom right, and we had speedlots vs speedlings. Larva gave up during what looked like a strong mutaling attack on free's natural. I guess the damage to his natural and main had been worse than I thought.
get stronger play longer
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
December 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#17
Game 4 on bifrost 3
get stronger play longer
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 13:45:00
December 12 2014 13:42 GMT
#18
To sum up - spoilered
+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1: Fighting Spirit cross spawns (Larva wins)
Game 2: Odd-Eye 3 (Larva wins)
Game 3: Neo Harmony (Free wins)
Game 4: Bifrost III (Larva wins)
Boring series to Larva 3-1.


If you're going to watch one of these games, Game 3 on Neo Harmony was short and sweet, the rest were very standard and slow-paced, and better for player analysis than entertainment. In each of the winner's games, the loser just made the first mistake and it went gradually downhill from there. Larva and free are very passive, cerebral players and there wasn't a lot of critical unit control although both players exhibited strong micro - the games were lost at the tactical level, and the winner was subtly outplaying the loser on all other fronts.
get stronger play longer
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
December 12 2014 20:05 GMT
#19
^^Thanks for the detailed reporting, Mirabel
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