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julia is really good at early game. clawson really isn't. (this has basically always been true.) I think clawson would dominate if they entered midgame on equal footing but he's losing this.
Really bad game 1 so far IMO. It's one of those games that I find frustrating to watch, because Julia's play really should get smashed, but Napo is making so many mistakes.
well, that was interesting. Napoleon early with the misplaced rax then Julia's fake attack to draw his units away and siege his ramp. Good stuff especially when you consider it was low eco game. Hopefully, they'll both play better in the next game
On May 13 2013 08:43 Holgerius wrote: Napoleons play right now reminds me of mine. I know that's perhaps an over the top insult, but that's how I feel watching this. So sloppy.
It feels like watching someone who forgot he can actually multitask.
On May 13 2013 08:43 Holgerius wrote: Napoleons play right now reminds me of mine. I know that's perhaps an over the top insult, but that's how I feel watching this. So sloppy.
ya it was amazingly sloppy for someone of his caliber. I wonder what was going on hmm. At least it's over XD
On May 13 2013 08:59 Sayle wrote: Today was a fucking disgrace.
what ya talking bout?
I think he means game #2 and how Napoleon was double the supply of Jula for the second half of the game and he wasn't able to finish the game. It was rather interesting to see Jula hold on and push him back so many times and at one point, Jula might've taken the game if it wasn't for the marine+vulture attack on his mostly undefended 4th(or 5th). That and his play was 'odd' in the series and it is the finals after all lol
On May 13 2013 11:47 EndingLife wrote: I tried to win so a Protoss could qualify but had lag issues with Julia and basically gave up. Sad after doing so well in the earlier stages.
Dont worry buddy . 2 more quali to go, no problem.
Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Bakuryu such a hacker
Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
TLS isn't conforming to ICCup's Terms of Use.
On May 16 2013 08:02 Assault_1 wrote: can I play this some other time? I'm going to my cottage this weekend
It's an open qualifier, we can't really reschedule or postpone it because of one player.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
couldnt Qualifiers 3&4 be rescheduled by a week to bring up an other solution? Playing on fish will be a huge pain in the ass for many players i feel. Getting the launcher, waiting the time off before you can host, language barrier. I really think thats not the way it should be done.
On May 16 2013 09:45 Cele wrote: couldnt Qualifiers 3&4 be rescheduled by a week to bring up an other solution? Playing on fish will be a huge pain in the ass for many players i feel. Getting the launcher, waiting the time off before you can host, language barrier. I really think thats not the way it should be done.
ye man and its the long weekend nobody's gonna be on bw
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
TLS isn't conforming to ICCup's Terms of Use.
iCCup banned TLS? Baffling.
well doty is a seeded player in TLS and doty is a "hacker" according to iccup so...
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
TLS isn't conforming to ICCup's Terms of Use.
iCCup banned TLS? Baffling.
well doty is a seeded player in TLS and doty is a "hacker" according to iccup so...
They actually banned me for bm towards admins, which is not true how they (Soldier and GeckoXP) are representing the facts. But I wont bring this up again here now.
I have contacted Yello-Ant regarding this (means me beeing on the blacklist now.) and awaiting his answer for some days now. (He is unbiased regarding this situation, at least that is my feeling.)
Pretty childish behaviour though, and can only explained to me by Gecko's personal feelings towards me.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
TLS isn't conforming to ICCup's Terms of Use.
iCCup banned TLS? Baffling.
well doty is a seeded player in TLS and doty is a "hacker" according to iccup so...
They actually banned me for bm towards admins, which is not true how they (Soldier and GeckoXP) are representing the facts. But I wont bring this up again here now.
I have contacted Yello-Ant regarding this (means me beeing on the blacklist now.) and awaiting his answer for some days now. (He is unbiased regarding this situation, at least that is my feeling.)
Pretty childish behaviour though, and can only explained to me by Gecko's personal feelings towards me.
to be honest i read quite some comments that were not mature from both of you, you and Gecko. But whatever the case with your personal grudge with him, it's none of my business. I just really hope you can sort it out with him and the other staff on ICC, because moving TLS to fish for this ... really sucks
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
TLS isn't conforming to ICCup's Terms of Use.
iCCup banned TLS? Baffling.
well doty is a seeded player in TLS and doty is a "hacker" according to iccup so...
They actually banned me for bm towards admins, which is not true how they (Soldier and GeckoXP) are representing the facts. But I wont bring this up again here now.
I have contacted Yello-Ant regarding this (means me beeing on the blacklist now.) and awaiting his answer for some days now. (He is unbiased regarding this situation, at least that is my feeling.)
Pretty childish behaviour though, and can only explained to me by Gecko's personal feelings towards me.
to be honest i read quite some comments that were not mature from both of you, you and Gecko. But whatever the case with your personal grudge with him, it's none of my business. I just really hope you can sort it out with him, because moving TLS to fish for this ... really sucks
You are right, but when i've spoken to him it was never on ICCup it mostly were privat conversations on Skype (which never had to do anything with iccup or my or his position there, actually back then we had different opinions about Eywa as an organizer and somehow got into bm'ing each other) which should not affect my right to be/play on iccup. I also never had any personal grudge against anyone from ICCup. (Most ICCup Admins do like me alot actually, it is just that Gecko and Soldier seem to make the calls right now, I'm friends with Gen,Myu,Fitz,Face, Flawless, when he still did care, and so on).
And the latest comments from my side towards him was because he was telling lies to people about me hacking/used to hack. On both TL.net and BW.de (On broodwar.de he even attacked me on a News about TLS1). It never had anything to do with ICCup as a server nor about it's admins! (Before he banned me and cleared all of my ID's for no reason obviously.)
If I was hacking there would be evidence ( Would I loss so often if I was hacking ? - for example my game against draw on TLS1 where i chose worst build order possible to do against his ? Just a random example).
If i had nothing better to do than going online on ICCup daily to attack ICCup (Admins) for no reason or even at all, wouldn't there be screenshots or something rather than just statements from two persons who dislike me ? Yeah Gecko and I dont like each other but it has got nothing to do with ICCup. ( From my side ).
And again you are right,regarding moving TLS 2 to fish because of this, but that's nowhere near my call, and i have explained myself to Yello-Ant extensive and can just hope he'll reconsider my case.
I dont wanna bring this up again though, since it doesn't make sense to argue about it HERE. I just wanted to make it clear what's the situation right now. To be honest I am pretty tired and annoyed by this non-sense drama
On May 16 2013 09:45 Cele wrote: couldnt Qualifiers 3&4 be rescheduled by a week to bring up an other solution? Playing on fish will be a huge pain in the ass for many players i feel. Getting the launcher, waiting the time off before you can host, language barrier. I really think thats not the way it should be done.
You only need to wait if you want to play ladder games on fish. Language barrier? You join a channel and start playing like you did on iccup so I don't see how that is a problem. Only hard part is installing the launcher and not installing the spyware that comes along with it but that's easy to do too.
On May 16 2013 09:45 Cele wrote: couldnt Qualifiers 3&4 be rescheduled by a week to bring up an other solution? Playing on fish will be a huge pain in the ass for many players i feel. Getting the launcher, waiting the time off before you can host, language barrier. I really think thats not the way it should be done.
You only need to wait if you want to play ladder games on fish. Language barrier? You join a channel and start playing like you did on iccup so I don't see how that is a problem. Only hard part is installing the launcher and not installing the spyware that comes along with it but that's easy to do too.
You can and are encouraged to use just Chaoslauncher for lan latency.
Actually, we're gonna enforce using wlauncher / minilauncher because they come with an anti-hack.
And just so there's no more confusion and speculation (I'm sorry for causing those with cryptic one liners), here's the proper summary of the reason TLS is not played on ICCup anymore:
ICCup is not allowing events to be played on their server that are featuring anyone who is blacklisted on their server. With us having dOTY (who is blacklisted on ICCup) seeded into the Ro24, we're effectively not following their rules and as such we're not allowed to play any of our games on ICCup anymore. We have tried to find the solution to this so that at least qualifiers could still be played on ICCup since players are most familiar with that, but unfortunately ICCup was pretty adamant about their rules and we didn't have other choice but to search for different solutions.
Due to the insufficient time to properly prepare for this problem, we're gonna hold the remaining two qualifiers on the korean Fish server. We know that this is not an ideal solution, since Fish server comes with the problems of their own. That's why, starting from Ro24 onward, we're gonna set up our own temporary private server where all TLS games will be played from now on to avoid any further problems with 3rd party servers.
I hope you all don't make a big problem out of this, because in the end, all we want is to celebrate Brood War and continue its legacy for as long as we can.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
TLS isn't conforming to ICCup's Terms of Use.
iCCup banned TLS? Baffling.
well doty is a seeded player in TLS and doty is a "hacker" according to iccup so...
They actually banned me for bm towards admins, which is not true how they (Soldier and GeckoXP) are representing the facts. But I wont bring this up again here now.
I have contacted Yello-Ant regarding this (means me beeing on the blacklist now.) and awaiting his answer for some days now. (He is unbiased regarding this situation, at least that is my feeling.)
Pretty childish behaviour though, and can only explained to me by Gecko's personal feelings towards me.
to be honest i read quite some comments that were not mature from both of you, you and Gecko. But whatever the case with your personal grudge with him, it's none of my business. I just really hope you can sort it out with him, because moving TLS to fish for this ... really sucks
You are right, but when i've spoken to him it was never on ICCup it mostly were privat conversations on Skype (which never had to do anything with iccup or my or his position there, actually back then we had different opinions about Eywa as an organizer and somehow got into bm'ing each other) which should not affect my right to be/play on iccup. I also never had any personal grudge against anyone from ICCup. (Most ICCup Admins do like me alot actually, it is just that Gecko and Soldier seem to make the calls right now, I'm friends with Gen,Myu,Fitz,Face, Flawless, when he still did care, and so on).
And the latest comments from my side towards him was because he was telling lies to people about me hacking/used to hack. On both TL.net and BW.de (On broodwar.de he even attacked me on a News about TLS1). It never had anything to do with ICCup as a server nor about it's admins! (Before he banned me and cleared all of my ID's for no reason obviously.)
If I was hacking there would be evidence ( Would I loss so often if I was hacking ? - for example my game against draw on TLS1 where his genius outplayed me, god he's such a role model protoss player.)
If i had nothing better to do than going online on ICCup daily to attack ICCup (Admins) for no reason or even at all, wouldn't there be screenshots or something rather than just statements from two persons who dislike me ? Yeah Gecko and I dont like each other but it has got nothing to do with ICCup. ( From my side ).
And again you are right,regarding moving TLS 2 to fish because of this, but that's nowhere near my call, and i have explained myself to Yello-Ant extensive and can just hope he'll reconsider my case.
I dont wanna bring this up again though, since it doesn't make sense to argue about it HERE. I just wanted to make it clear what's the situation right now. To be honest I am pretty tired and annoyed by this non-sense drama
On May 17 2013 04:18 dRaW wrote: What about scheduled down time for fish, isn't it during the TLS event?
It's 4 hours after qualifiers start so it should be mostly done by then. And downtime only lasts for about a minute or two so it shouldn't be a problem.
On May 15 2013 22:49 2Pacalypse- wrote: Btw, please note that 3rd and 4th qualifier will be held on Fish (same channel, op Legacy-1) so for those registering early, make sure to enter your fish account name and not iccup's.
What is the reason for this change? It seems very abrupt and I sense something is amiss.
TLS isn't conforming to ICCup's Terms of Use.
iCCup banned TLS? Baffling.
well doty is a seeded player in TLS and doty is a "hacker" according to iccup so...
They actually banned me for bm towards admins, which is not true how they (Soldier and GeckoXP) are representing the facts. But I wont bring this up again here now.
I have contacted Yello-Ant regarding this (means me beeing on the blacklist now.) and awaiting his answer for some days now. (He is unbiased regarding this situation, at least that is my feeling.)
Pretty childish behaviour though, and can only explained to me by Gecko's personal feelings towards me.
to be honest i read quite some comments that were not mature from both of you, you and Gecko. But whatever the case with your personal grudge with him, it's none of my business. I just really hope you can sort it out with him, because moving TLS to fish for this ... really sucks
You are right, but when i've spoken to him it was never on ICCup it mostly were privat conversations on Skype (which never had to do anything with iccup or my or his position there, actually back then we had different opinions about Eywa as an organizer and somehow got into bm'ing each other) which should not affect my right to be/play on iccup. I also never had any personal grudge against anyone from ICCup. (Most ICCup Admins do like me alot actually, it is just that Gecko and Soldier seem to make the calls right now, I'm friends with Gen,Myu,Fitz,Face, Flawless, when he still did care, and so on).
And the latest comments from my side towards him was because he was telling lies to people about me hacking/used to hack. On both TL.net and BW.de (On broodwar.de he even attacked me on a News about TLS1). It never had anything to do with ICCup as a server nor about it's admins! (Before he banned me and cleared all of my ID's for no reason obviously.)
If I was hacking there would be evidence ( Would I loss so often if I was hacking ? - for example my game against draw on TLS1 where his genius outplayed me, god he's such a role model protoss player.)
If i had nothing better to do than going online on ICCup daily to attack ICCup (Admins) for no reason or even at all, wouldn't there be screenshots or something rather than just statements from two persons who dislike me ? Yeah Gecko and I dont like each other but it has got nothing to do with ICCup. ( From my side ).
And again you are right,regarding moving TLS 2 to fish because of this, but that's nowhere near my call, and i have explained myself to Yello-Ant extensive and can just hope he'll reconsider my case.
I dont wanna bring this up again though, since it doesn't make sense to argue about it HERE. I just wanted to make it clear what's the situation right now. To be honest I am pretty tired and annoyed by this non-sense drama
On May 17 2013 01:56 2Pacalypse- wrote: Please notice the word "private" in there. It won't be open to public, nor it will be online except in time to play TLS games. For now...
This really would be the kind of epic thing TL is probably capable of doing. Fish is great in alot of ways, but not ideal for newer players and lower skilled players that don't know Korean. ICCup is sorta okay, but seems to come with lots of drama and random bullshit, like this situation with Doty.
A good foreign server with a decent ladder ranking/rating system and free of drama would be quite nice. Apparently, if I recall correctly (seem to remember someone posting about such a tool), it might even be possible to have some sort of auto-matchmaking, which would be an even better thing than sliced bread.
Yea, that wasn't really TLS related post, but the fact that TL is willing to set up a private server for the tour is quite awesome, and lends itself to some nice potential. Hopefully qualifiers 3 and 4 will run smoothly enough and everyone gets Fish figured out a head of time. Would be a shame if some big names miss out because they don't pat attention or in rare cases can't use fish.
On May 17 2013 01:56 2Pacalypse- wrote: Please notice the word "private" in there. It won't be open to public, nor it will be online except in time to play TLS games. For now...
This really would be the kind of epic thing TL is probably capable of doing. Fish is great in alot of ways, but not ideal for newer players and lower skilled players that don't know Korean. ICCup is sorta okay, but seems to come with lots of drama and random bullshit, like this situation with Doty.
A good foreign server with a decent ladder ranking/rating system and free of drama would be quite nice. Apparently, if I recall correctly (seem to remember someone posting about such a tool), it might even be possible to have some sort of auto-matchmaking, which would be an even better thing than sliced bread.
Yea, that wasn't really TLS related post, but the fact that TL is willing to set up a private server for the tour is quite awesome, and lends itself to some nice potential. Hopefully qualifiers 3 and 4 will run smoothly enough and everyone gets Fish figured out a head of time. Would be a shame if some big names miss out because they don't pat attention or in rare cases can't use fish.
I dont know...that would split the community on even more servers than right now... :/
But indeed, it is epic to have an own server for TL tours and leagues. :D
It's not like TeamLiquid is going to make a new private server for a competitive ladder. They're just going to use their own private server for tournament games.
On May 17 2013 01:56 2Pacalypse- wrote: Please notice the word "private" in there. It won't be open to public, nor it will be online except in time to play TLS games. For now...
EPT
Neo Jade
. Second best toss - sorry leg - Draco fan :D
It's one of those games that I find frustrating to watch, because Julia's play really should get smashed, but Napo is making so many mistakes.
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