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On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill  That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh?
Indeed I haven't.
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On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't.
The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+
Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-.
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On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-.
Sounds like nearly every [PE] player I've played in the past year or two =_= Some of the all-ins I've seen are truly ridiculous, then next day - BAM, C/C+ ?? WTF?
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On November 25 2012 00:31 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. Sounds like nearly every [PE] player I've played in the past year or two =_= Some of the all-ins I've seen are truly ridiculous, then next day - BAM, C/C+ ?? WTF?
South American Zergs are well known to play all in everygame. It was that case like 3-4+ years ago when i was active too
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On November 25 2012 00:37 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 00:31 Jealous wrote:On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. Sounds like nearly every [PE] player I've played in the past year or two =_= Some of the all-ins I've seen are truly ridiculous, then next day - BAM, C/C+ ?? WTF? South American Zergs are well known to play all in everygame. It was that case like 3-4+ years ago when i was active too
The game I have in mind is from a Protoss, and I saw a moxie[wok] replay the other day of him vs. some B- [PE] toss who did almost the same exact thing (3 gate dt drop into 4 gate all-in off 1 base). Except the guy I faced at D+ also followed up with a reaver bust lol. It's crazy what people can do off 1 gas.
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On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-.
That's why there's terminology like "C- high". Nobody is saying here that rank equals skill, but I'm saying if you hit C-, that means you hit C-. There's no such thing as saying "Oh well, I only hit C- because I did xyz and therefore I'm not really C-."
Like, wtf dictates if you're "truly" C- anyway? It's not like there's some arbitrary panel of BW nerds saying "Yeah I think he's legit C-", and C- these days means a lot different than what it used to mean too.
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On November 25 2012 01:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. That's why there's terminology like "C- high". Nobody is saying here that rank equals skill, but I'm saying if you hit C-, that means you hit C-. There's no such thing as saying "Oh well, I only hit C- because I did xyz and therefore I'm not really C-." Like, wtf dictates if you're "truly" C- anyway? It's not like there's some arbitrary panel of BW nerds saying "Yeah I think he's legit C-", and C- these days means a lot different than what it used to mean too.
The thing is, to hit C-, you need to have 33% winrate vs other D+ players if you only play MotW.
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On November 25 2012 01:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. That's why there's terminology like "C- high". Nobody is saying here that rank equals skill, but I'm saying if you hit C-, that means you hit C-. There's no such thing as saying "Oh well, I only hit C- because I did xyz and therefore I'm not really C-." Like, wtf dictates if you're "truly" C- anyway? It's not like there's some arbitrary panel of BW nerds saying "Yeah I think he's legit C-", and C- these days means a lot different than what it used to mean too.
Truly C- meaning, you arent good enough to hold C Rank(may or may not be able to reach it) BUT you're too good to fall down into D+ rank. Meaning you can consistently defeat other Legit(meaning same place as you) C- players.
Because you hit a rank doesnt mean you are that rank Is generally understood.
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On November 25 2012 01:43 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. That's why there's terminology like "C- high". Nobody is saying here that rank equals skill, but I'm saying if you hit C-, that means you hit C-. There's no such thing as saying "Oh well, I only hit C- because I did xyz and therefore I'm not really C-." Like, wtf dictates if you're "truly" C- anyway? It's not like there's some arbitrary panel of BW nerds saying "Yeah I think he's legit C-", and C- these days means a lot different than what it used to mean too. Truly C- meaning, you arent good enough to hold C Rank(may or may not be able to reach it) BUT you're too good to fall down into D+ rank. Meaning you can consistently defeat other Legit(meaning same place as you) C- players. Because you hit a rank doesnt mean you are that rank Is generally understood.
So basically, when you get a certain rank on ICCUP, and your icon changes, it just means that Iccup is lying to you?
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On November 25 2012 01:48 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:43 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 01:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. That's why there's terminology like "C- high". Nobody is saying here that rank equals skill, but I'm saying if you hit C-, that means you hit C-. There's no such thing as saying "Oh well, I only hit C- because I did xyz and therefore I'm not really C-." Like, wtf dictates if you're "truly" C- anyway? It's not like there's some arbitrary panel of BW nerds saying "Yeah I think he's legit C-", and C- these days means a lot different than what it used to mean too. Truly C- meaning, you arent good enough to hold C Rank(may or may not be able to reach it) BUT you're too good to fall down into D+ rank. Meaning you can consistently defeat other Legit(meaning same place as you) C- players. Because you hit a rank doesnt mean you are that rank Is generally understood. So basically, when you get a certain rank on ICCUP, and your icon changes, it just means that Iccup is lying to you?
Yes.
Atleast until you can constantly win games at that rank
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On November 25 2012 01:52 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:48 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 01:43 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 01:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. That's why there's terminology like "C- high". Nobody is saying here that rank equals skill, but I'm saying if you hit C-, that means you hit C-. There's no such thing as saying "Oh well, I only hit C- because I did xyz and therefore I'm not really C-." Like, wtf dictates if you're "truly" C- anyway? It's not like there's some arbitrary panel of BW nerds saying "Yeah I think he's legit C-", and C- these days means a lot different than what it used to mean too. Truly C- meaning, you arent good enough to hold C Rank(may or may not be able to reach it) BUT you're too good to fall down into D+ rank. Meaning you can consistently defeat other Legit(meaning same place as you) C- players. Because you hit a rank doesnt mean you are that rank Is generally understood. So basically, when you get a certain rank on ICCUP, and your icon changes, it just means that Iccup is lying to you? Yes. Atleast until you can constantly win games at that rank
So why doesn't Iccup make like a new rank between D+ and C-, called something like "Better than D+ but not really C-"? It seems fairly silly for a server to get its own ranking system wrong, so they need to fix this.
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On November 25 2012 02:01 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:52 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 01:48 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 01:43 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 01:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. That's why there's terminology like "C- high". Nobody is saying here that rank equals skill, but I'm saying if you hit C-, that means you hit C-. There's no such thing as saying "Oh well, I only hit C- because I did xyz and therefore I'm not really C-." Like, wtf dictates if you're "truly" C- anyway? It's not like there's some arbitrary panel of BW nerds saying "Yeah I think he's legit C-", and C- these days means a lot different than what it used to mean too. Truly C- meaning, you arent good enough to hold C Rank(may or may not be able to reach it) BUT you're too good to fall down into D+ rank. Meaning you can consistently defeat other Legit(meaning same place as you) C- players. Because you hit a rank doesnt mean you are that rank Is generally understood. So basically, when you get a certain rank on ICCUP, and your icon changes, it just means that Iccup is lying to you? Yes. Atleast until you can constantly win games at that rank So why doesn't Iccup make like a new rank between D+ and C-, called something like "Better than D+ but not really C-"? It seems fairly silly for a server to get its own ranking system wrong, so they need to fix this.
Even though I lol'd, I want to explain arb's point a bit better:
Getting C- and losing it consistently is the same as being D+ because you beat D+ players to get there (only 33% on MotW, which means you don't even have to be in the top 50% of D+ players to get C-, hypothetically), and get beaten by C- players. That is why there is lenience to people who are low C- and can't hold it. It's fairly simple -_-
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On November 25 2012 02:01 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:52 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 01:48 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 01:43 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 01:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:29 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 25 2012 00:05 arb wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 24 2012 03:46 MoreAndMMore wrote:OMG i am d+ player i made 2x c- on 3040 pts of 5 x 9 pool speed. LOL. I am d+ player i dont break rules. Rank=/skill That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. If you hit C-, you're C-. There's no "Oh, but I 9pooled my way there DOESN'T COUNT". Never heard of WARMACHINE huh? Indeed I haven't. The whole If you get a rank you're that rank doesnt apply. Basically WARMACHINE was a B- zerg, who literally did nothing but 3hatch all in/9pool speed all in every game up to B-. Any sort of macro game or anything of that nature he was D+ Rank doesnt equal skill in the slightest. Being able to hit C- and losing every game at C- doesnt make you C-. until you can hold the rank you ARE NOT that rank. And even then theres low mid and high within the individual ranks. Saying he's C- because he hit once then immediately dropped to d+ is ignorant, and means he truly isnt C-. That's why there's terminology like "C- high". Nobody is saying here that rank equals skill, but I'm saying if you hit C-, that means you hit C-. There's no such thing as saying "Oh well, I only hit C- because I did xyz and therefore I'm not really C-." Like, wtf dictates if you're "truly" C- anyway? It's not like there's some arbitrary panel of BW nerds saying "Yeah I think he's legit C-", and C- these days means a lot different than what it used to mean too. Truly C- meaning, you arent good enough to hold C Rank(may or may not be able to reach it) BUT you're too good to fall down into D+ rank. Meaning you can consistently defeat other Legit(meaning same place as you) C- players. Because you hit a rank doesnt mean you are that rank Is generally understood. So basically, when you get a certain rank on ICCUP, and your icon changes, it just means that Iccup is lying to you? Yes. Atleast until you can constantly win games at that rank So why doesn't Iccup make like a new rank between D+ and C-, called something like "Better than D+ but not really C-"? It seems fairly silly for a server to get its own ranking system wrong, so they need to fix this.
They should.
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If it's not too late I want to sign up.
Rank: D+
ICCUP account: Miss.Click..
Race: Zerg
Want to be teamcaptain: no
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On November 25 2012 02:13 MissClickkii wrote:
If it's not too late I want to sign up.
Rank: D+
ICCUP account: Miss.Click..
Race: Zerg
Want to be teamcaptain: no
Heyhey never too late to join. I guess DeSPA gets priority over picking but if they don' t need join my team Sun Kan, we need another zerg
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I'll join your team Sun Kan.
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There only was a drama in high rank league or $ league/tour. But now we have same thing in JUST FOR FUN League?
Seriously, stop crying if you don't want to play vs D gosus, go ICCup Ladder E channel which you can enjoy. PLEASE.
I don't want to play vs QQing people. Not all guys who raped you are C/B players. They are just D level players who are better than you.
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On November 25 2012 02:49 MissClickkii wrote:
I'll join your team Sun Kan.
It is better if you join DeSPA. They need badly guys. Sorry :/
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I got invited to both the team's chat around the same time on skype, which team should I stay on?
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