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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 06 2012 02:32 GMT
#21
wow really grats sas

michael you really need to step it up or we send you back to kitchen as dish washer.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 06 2012 04:03 GMT
#22

Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 06 2012 04:26 GMT
#23
What's SJ exactly ? Based on the members I can guess it's a new name of Nb. but when and why did that occur ?
Thanks
ॐ
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 06 2012 04:47 GMT
#24
On August 06 2012 13:26 endy wrote:
What's SJ exactly ? Based on the members I can guess it's a new name of Nb. but when and why did that occur ?
Thanks

They lost their old sponsor, got a new one.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
August 06 2012 11:34 GMT
#25
On August 06 2012 13:26 endy wrote:
What's SJ exactly ? Based on the members I can guess it's a new name of Nb. but when and why did that occur ?
Thanks

There was a thread about it some time ago : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351364
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And congrats Michael !
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 06 2012 19:53 GMT
#26
If Eagle was a no-show, shouldn't the LRM vs Eagle match be "no contest"? It always seems a bit disingenuous to claim a win when no match took place. I can see where a walk-over would make sense in a competition sense where you have points to earn, but for a showmatch, where points are non-applicable, I would recommend a "no contest".

Additionally, I strongly would recommend not adding walkovers to players' win ratios, because it skews the numbers heavily. For example, would be the point of saying "I won 100% of my games" if they were all walkovers? Taking a walkover should, in my opinion, be heavily discouraged in competitive play.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#27
On August 07 2012 04:53 ninazerg wrote:
If Eagle was a no-show, shouldn't the LRM vs Eagle match be "no contest"? It always seems a bit disingenuous to claim a win when no match took place. I can see where a walk-over would make sense in a competition sense where you have points to earn, but for a showmatch, where points are non-applicable, I would recommend a "no contest".

Additionally, I strongly would recommend not adding walkovers to players' win ratios, because it skews the numbers heavily. For example, would be the point of saying "I won 100% of my games" if they were all walkovers? Taking a walkover should, in my opinion, be heavily discouraged in competitive play.

W.O is just a broad term that is understood by the masses, as it's been the norm forever. The same way when you ask someone for a game you say "game?" rather than "Do you want to play?". This is also disingenuous, but accomplishes the goal of breaking any language barriers. How can you add a walkover to a players win ratio? It's actually almost impossible to attribute a win to a player in this league, because W.O's are only given in special circumstances where both players are there, and the team leader sent them both in knowing they could both play. W.O's are discouraged, I'm not sure where you'd form an opinion that they were common practice to achieve.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 21:38:54
August 06 2012 21:37 GMT
#28
On August 07 2012 06:24 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 04:53 ninazerg wrote:
If Eagle was a no-show, shouldn't the LRM vs Eagle match be "no contest"? It always seems a bit disingenuous to claim a win when no match took place. I can see where a walk-over would make sense in a competition sense where you have points to earn, but for a showmatch, where points are non-applicable, I would recommend a "no contest".

Additionally, I strongly would recommend not adding walkovers to players' win ratios, because it skews the numbers heavily. For example, would be the point of saying "I won 100% of my games" if they were all walkovers? Taking a walkover should, in my opinion, be heavily discouraged in competitive play.

W.O is just a broad term that is understood by the masses, as it's been the norm forever. The same way when you ask someone for a game you say "game?" rather than "Do you want to play?". This is also disingenuous, but accomplishes the goal of breaking any language barriers. How can you add a walkover to a players win ratio? It's actually almost impossible to attribute a win to a player in this league, because W.O's are only given in special circumstances where both players are there, and the team leader sent them both in knowing they could both play. W.O's are discouraged, I'm not sure where you'd form an opinion that they were common practice to achieve.


I see your point, but since Teamliquid.net's official language is English, and most of the people posting have fairly decent comprehension skills, I just thought it would help to clarify terms. As far as the issue of my opinion of walkovers, when money is on the line, I think it can be tempting to team leaders to take a walkover rather than issue a postponement - for example, I remember a clan league where this one clan took mostly walkovers to win their division, and declared themselves to be "the best". Just speaking from what I've seen personally, I'd hate to see that here. As a spectator, I would love to see every team play every other team.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 07 2012 02:31 GMT
#29
It was a show match, nothing to do with the league itself. The player somehow decided it was okay to not show up after acknowledging a reminder the day before. Call it a Walk Over, call it a no-show, call it whatever, it doesn't count toward the league anyway.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
August 07 2012 04:35 GMT
#30
Gogo Michael. Grabbing the first all-kill
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Gairbear
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States80 Posts
August 15 2012 17:38 GMT
#31
Michael Hwaiting! Way to find yourself out of a few disadvantageous builds and prove to us why you are the cheese king with some very creative builds.
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