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reps)Plumbum
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 10:59:56
October 04 2012 10:59 GMT
#941
On October 04 2012 19:47 GeLaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 18:19 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Well, its Wednesday already, my team still did not receive CERTAIN CLEAR ANSWER do we play this weekend or not, since so few time left, if we are going to play, it should be only on next weekend.


Didn't Eywa say "Sunday, 18CET" a few posts higher?


? this?
On October 04 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 04:12 Eywa- wrote:
I just got back from an extended walk, I have a lot of messages, I haven't read any of them yet. I would like to change the decision that was made prior given that it is not a reasonable decision from either team's perspective. The new ruling is the following:

Given that the teams LRM and CN are unable to play each other, they will participate in an organized match with the other currently "in the balance" team. reps) will play both LRM) and CN, the team with the best score of LRM) and CN will advance, if reps) wins both Clan Wars, reps) will advance.



Sunday, 18CET. Sets will alternate 1-1 between CN and LRM. No PP is possible even upon team agreement.

?

I understand nothing from this post. What 18 cet? Who vs Who?
if reps are involved, why it is said that it is 1-1 between CN and LRM.

Eywa is uncertain as usual T_T_T_T
reps)Plumbum
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 04 2012 11:02 GMT
#942
And if reps involved? Why we do not know map order?
well, i know nothing, i am asking Eywa in skype but he is silent like a wall.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
October 04 2012 11:17 GMT
#943
On October 04 2012 19:59 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 19:47 GeLaar wrote:
On October 04 2012 18:19 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Well, its Wednesday already, my team still did not receive CERTAIN CLEAR ANSWER do we play this weekend or not, since so few time left, if we are going to play, it should be only on next weekend.


Didn't Eywa say "Sunday, 18CET" a few posts higher?


? this?
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 07:09 Eywa- wrote:
On October 01 2012 04:12 Eywa- wrote:
I just got back from an extended walk, I have a lot of messages, I haven't read any of them yet. I would like to change the decision that was made prior given that it is not a reasonable decision from either team's perspective. The new ruling is the following:

Given that the teams LRM and CN are unable to play each other, they will participate in an organized match with the other currently "in the balance" team. reps) will play both LRM) and CN, the team with the best score of LRM) and CN will advance, if reps) wins both Clan Wars, reps) will advance.



Sunday, 18CET. Sets will alternate 1-1 between CN and LRM. No PP is possible even upon team agreement.

?

I understand nothing from this post. What 18 cet? Who vs Who?
if reps are involved, why it is said that it is 1-1 between CN and LRM.

Eywa is uncertain as usual T_T_T_T


Now, I'm not a native English speaker or anything, but my understanding is that the three teams involved (CN, LRM, reps) will meet at 18 CET (6 PM in the CET time zone), and both matches (CN vs. reps, LRM vs. reps) will be played at the same time, but the actual games with will be played in an alternating fashion, meaning that, for example, all the odd numbered games would be CN vs. reps, and all the even-numbered ones LRM vs. reps. Also, there will be additional measures in place against delays or to stop reps from abusing the rules (not sure if by "PP" he meant pausing).
Brood War is alive and well.
reps)Defi
Profile Joined September 2007
Russian Federation337 Posts
October 04 2012 11:48 GMT
#944
Eywa never answers clearly.
But if check last 38754539547538 Eywa's and HaFniums post, we can see that:

Questions:
wth?
so are you still insisting on REPs vs CN and LRM??
Alternating sets mean LRM vs REPS first then REPS vs CN?

Answers:
1) Not worth answering
2) Yes
3) Yes


So we play first vs LRM at 18 CET, and right after we play vs CN.
It means for CN that CW will start around 20 CET = 2 am for China.
Since i am pretty sure that most of CN players have job/university at monday morning -> they wont be able to play at 2 am.


As soon as LRM will never agree smth for CN, i can just predict WO there, lol.

And btw, we still need map order AND EYWA'S ANSWER TO MY SKYPE MESSAGE PLEASE.
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1078 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 12:13:31
October 04 2012 12:12 GMT
#945
good luck our communist brethrens
you won't be on ur one in this perilousl journey....
we will be with u... At least spiritually..........

On October 04 2012 20:48 reps)Defi wrote:
Eywa never answers clearly.
But if check last 38754539547538 Eywa's and HaFniums post, we can see that:

Questions:
wth?
so are you still insisting on REPs vs CN and LRM??
Alternating sets mean LRM vs REPS first then REPS vs CN?

Answers:
1) Not worth answering
2) Yes
3) Yes


So we play first vs LRM at 18 CET, and right after we play vs CN.
It means for CN that CW will start around 20 CET = 2 am for China.
Since i am pretty sure that most of CN players have job/university at monday morning -> they wont be able to play at 2 am.


As soon as LRM will never agree smth for CN, i can just predict WO there, lol.

And btw, we still need map order AND EYWA'S ANSWER TO MY SKYPE MESSAGE PLEASE.

BW forever!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 04 2012 12:29 GMT
#946
On October 04 2012 20:48 reps)Defi wrote:
Eywa never answers clearly.
But if check last 38754539547538 Eywa's and HaFniums post, we can see that:

Questions:
wth?
so are you still insisting on REPs vs CN and LRM??
Alternating sets mean LRM vs REPS first then REPS vs CN?

Answers:
1) Not worth answering
2) Yes
3) Yes


So we play first vs LRM at 18 CET, and right after we play vs CN.
It means for CN that CW will start around 20 CET = 2 am for China.
Since i am pretty sure that most of CN players have job/university at monday morning -> they wont be able to play at 2 am.


As soon as LRM will never agree smth for CN, i can just predict WO there, lol.

And btw, we still need map order AND EYWA'S ANSWER TO MY SKYPE MESSAGE PLEASE.

1) 18CET, but the sets will alternate between LRM and CN - So only one or two players will have to stay up late - not a big commitment
2) I have stayed up late many times, it's not impossible to do it once before having to work.

3) LRM) doesn't have to agree to anything because the league decision cannot be changed even upon agreement between teams in this case.

4) Already answered the same question @plumbum, I told you guys I wasn't answering twice anymore. Please use some team communication.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
reps)Defi
Profile Joined September 2007
Russian Federation337 Posts
October 04 2012 12:29 GMT
#947
UPDATE:
Game just informed me:
we will play 2 CW in the SAME time.
Maps are the same as for LRM vs CN CW, so:

New Sniper Ridge
Neo Electric Circuit
Neo Chain Reaction
Neo Outlier
Neo Ground Zero
Neo Jade
Neo Sniper Ridge
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 12:56:43
October 04 2012 12:44 GMT
#948
On October 04 2012 21:29 reps)Defi wrote:
UPDATE:
Game just informed me:
we will play 2 CW in the SAME time.
Maps are the same as for LRM vs CN CW, so:

New Sniper Ridge
Neo Electric Circuit
Neo Chain Reaction
Neo Outlier
Neo Ground Zero
Neo Jade
Neo Sniper Ridge

Thank you LRM)Game.


Rule Update:
Upon leaving a team to join another, a barrier will be made preventing the player in question from re-joining his original team until after the next prize pool payout. i.e. If a player left his team in Round 1, he could come back in Round 2, but not in Round 1.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1078 Posts
October 04 2012 12:59 GMT
#949
eywa score does matter.
in the unlikely event that if we win 4-0 and lrm won 4-3.
our scores will be tied if our win vs lrm is counted, which is contraficting to what you have said previously.
please consider it.
thx
BW forever!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 04 2012 13:16 GMT
#950
On October 04 2012 21:59 HaFnium wrote:
eywa score does matter.
in the unlikely event that if we win 4-0 and lrm won 4-3.
our scores will be tied if our win vs lrm is counted, which is contraficting to what you have said previously.
please consider it.
thx

Previously posted that season scores only count in the event of a tie. Realistically both teams deserved the double W.O, but I'm not giving it to you guys because we want to see some games. Either read what I post or bring your top players and quit worrying about the exact ifs and ors.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 04 2012 20:44 GMT
#951
On October 04 2012 22:16 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 21:59 HaFnium wrote:
eywa score does matter.
in the unlikely event that if we win 4-0 and lrm won 4-3.
our scores will be tied if our win vs lrm is counted, which is contraficting to what you have said previously.
please consider it.
thx

Previously posted that season scores only count in the event of a tie. Realistically both teams deserved the double W.O, but I'm not giving it to you guys because we want to see some games. Either read what I post or bring your top players and quit worrying about the exact ifs and ors.

so what's the situation for round 2? Are other teams going to have to play a 3 way to determine their result against china if there is lag? Its not bm it just seems like you didn't assess the full situation. Furthermore, what will happen if china meets LRM in the grand final? It would be disasterously unfair for both teams to have to play a third party to determine the finale to the league. You can't just brush off an instance as situational with a specific ruling if it can re occur and not give the same solution.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1078 Posts
October 04 2012 20:48 GMT
#952
On October 04 2012 08:07 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 07:36 HaFnium wrote:
17 CET ok? Kinda make more sense as all games are played at that time...
Also shoudl we submit list first, and I asusme it's BO1?
Also we are leading 1:0 through Jaystar vs TT right?

Thanks

1) No
2) No
3) Really doesn't matter, even if I count +1 for your set wins, LRM still has a better reccord so, no.


Eywa you are wrong u said it doesnt matter but in fact it does....

I know you are the ultimate organiser and can do whatever u feel like, but i just want to point htat out.

thx
BW forever!
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
October 04 2012 21:21 GMT
#953
amazing Drama..

THIS IS BROODWAR !!!!!!!! :D
T H C makes ppl happy
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7028 Posts
October 04 2012 21:25 GMT
#954
hmm.eywa will be nice if u recruit some guys for ur team of organizers ? is just to much work for u actually. i can agree LRM)Noone to take hands on this. he very fair.And is not fair for all us team players u take decisions based in ur mood.
And for team China. guys im sorry. but as u see the lag barriers made alot of problems .fair or not we all know this before the league start and imo is eywa fail allow u guys to play in our league(not take this bm) is the same if we all try play in ur team leagues and starleagues.until we found the way to play without lag gonna be the same problem.Is true everyteam tryed to play vs u but is not fucking funny play on extra light latency.(playable ? ) is not u cant show all the skill in extra.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#955
On October 05 2012 05:44 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 22:16 Eywa- wrote:
On October 04 2012 21:59 HaFnium wrote:
eywa score does matter.
in the unlikely event that if we win 4-0 and lrm won 4-3.
our scores will be tied if our win vs lrm is counted, which is contraficting to what you have said previously.
please consider it.
thx

Previously posted that season scores only count in the event of a tie. Realistically both teams deserved the double W.O, but I'm not giving it to you guys because we want to see some games. Either read what I post or bring your top players and quit worrying about the exact ifs and ors.

so what's the situation for round 2? Are other teams going to have to play a 3 way to determine their result against china if there is lag? Its not bm it just seems like you didn't assess the full situation. Furthermore, what will happen if china meets LRM in the grand final? It would be disasterously unfair for both teams to have to play a third party to determine the finale to the league. You can't just brush off an instance as situational with a specific ruling if it can re occur and not give the same solution.

There is a plan to be implemented.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 04 2012 22:11 GMT
#956
On October 05 2012 06:25 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
hmm.eywa will be nice if u recruit some guys for ur team of organizers ? is just to much work for u actually. i can agree LRM)Noone to take hands on this. he very fair.And is not fair for all us team players u take decisions based in ur mood.
And for team China. guys im sorry. but as u see the lag barriers made alot of problems .fair or not we all know this before the league start and imo is eywa fail allow u guys to play in our league(not take this bm) is the same if we all try play in ur team leagues and starleagues.until we found the way to play without lag gonna be the same problem.Is true everyteam tryed to play vs u but is not fucking funny play on extra light latency.(playable ? ) is not u cant show all the skill in extra.

Honestly, I won't disagree that I need help to run the league, but as far as decision making, I disagree.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 04 2012 22:57 GMT
#957
Another thing to consider is if all results accumulate towards the standings of the grand finals, do the results of reps / lrm and reps/cn add into that? it would give reps an extra clanwar of statistics... or is all this neglected and the results will equate LRM vs CN...? (even so LRM vs reps and CN vs reps != LRM vs CN, too many variables: some teams play better vs other teams, hard to compare them by those statistics.)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 04 2012 23:02 GMT
#958
On October 05 2012 07:57 dRaW wrote:
Another thing to consider is if all results accumulate towards the standings of the grand finals, do the results of reps / lrm and reps/cn add into that? it would give reps an extra clanwar of statistics... or is all this neglected and the results will equate LRM vs CN...? (even so LRM vs reps and CN vs reps != LRM vs CN, too many variables: some teams play better vs other teams, hard to compare them by those statistics.)

It's over the Internet, there's nothing we can do about it at this point other than that.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
October 04 2012 23:17 GMT
#959
Next Round if I play Sziky again I'm blaming lag so I can get some benefit in this league as well.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
reps)Plumbum
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 05 2012 15:14 GMT
#960
please remove:
reps)mvp
reps)Artanis
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