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Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
July 08 2012 05:42 GMT
#161
That was really back and forth... Nice!
aznkukuboi
Profile Joined December 2010
120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 05:43:35
July 08 2012 05:42 GMT
#162
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
July 08 2012 05:42 GMT
#163
Effort for CJ's ace
vs
Soulkey for Stars
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
July 08 2012 05:43 GMT
#164
AWWWWWWW SHIT EFFORT VS SOULKEY GOGOGOGO
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 05:44:34
July 08 2012 05:43 GMT
#165
lol crazy marines tanks tvt, should've transition to sky terran
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
July 08 2012 05:43 GMT
#166
I hope that plating upgrades for vehicles will become more valuable against marines in the future, after +2 or +3 weapons is done.

While weapons is obv the most important one of the two, pulling another shot from each tank, while being shot by fast attacking marines during flanks might prove itself to be valuable too.
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
July 08 2012 05:44 GMT
#167
On July 08 2012 14:42 aznkukuboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.


rofl
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
July 08 2012 05:46 GMT
#168
On July 08 2012 14:42 aznkukuboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.


Diamond Players would not have been able to react that quickly to the hellion drop, or go into late game and macro well without stacking up tons of resources.

I can't tell if your trolling because that statement is just ridiculous.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 08 2012 05:46 GMT
#169
Is this ace match?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
aznkukuboi
Profile Joined December 2010
120 Posts
July 08 2012 05:48 GMT
#170
On July 08 2012 14:46 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 14:42 aznkukuboi wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.


Diamond Players would not have been able to react that quickly to the hellion drop, or go into late game and macro well without stacking up tons of resources.

I can't tell if your trolling because that statement is just ridiculous.



Did you see fantasy last week in sc2? Do you really think that's master level play?
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
July 08 2012 05:48 GMT
#171
Sorry about that guys!

I've been tending to dinner, and beer.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
July 08 2012 05:50 GMT
#172
On July 08 2012 14:48 aznkukuboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 14:46 poorcloud wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:42 aznkukuboi wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.


Diamond Players would not have been able to react that quickly to the hellion drop, or go into late game and macro well without stacking up tons of resources.

I can't tell if your trolling because that statement is just ridiculous.



Did you see fantasy last week in sc2? Do you really think that's master level play?


well shit bro, if fantasy is diamond maybe i should fly to korea and try out for skt then
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 08 2012 05:50 GMT
#173
On July 08 2012 14:48 aznkukuboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 14:46 poorcloud wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:42 aznkukuboi wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.


Diamond Players would not have been able to react that quickly to the hellion drop, or go into late game and macro well without stacking up tons of resources.

I can't tell if your trolling because that statement is just ridiculous.



Did you see fantasy last week in sc2? Do you really think that's master level play?


He is hardly practicing sc2. He definitely is aiming for the golden mouse this OSL.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
July 08 2012 05:51 GMT
#174
On July 08 2012 14:48 aznkukuboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 14:46 poorcloud wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:42 aznkukuboi wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.


Diamond Players would not have been able to react that quickly to the hellion drop, or go into late game and macro well without stacking up tons of resources.

I can't tell if your trolling because that statement is just ridiculous.



Did you see fantasy last week in sc2? Do you really think that's master level play?

Didnt he win with the proxy rax float ito bbyongs base
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
July 08 2012 05:51 GMT
#175
On July 08 2012 14:50 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 14:48 aznkukuboi wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:46 poorcloud wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:42 aznkukuboi wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.


Diamond Players would not have been able to react that quickly to the hellion drop, or go into late game and macro well without stacking up tons of resources.

I can't tell if your trolling because that statement is just ridiculous.



Did you see fantasy last week in sc2? Do you really think that's master level play?


He is hardly practicing sc2. He definitely is aiming for the golden mouse this OSL.

Impossible, he only has one OSL win, 3 OSL silvers
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
July 08 2012 05:51 GMT
#176
On July 08 2012 14:46 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 14:42 aznkukuboi wrote:
On July 08 2012 14:17 poorcloud wrote:
Am i the only one who feel everyone calling these players trash are overreacting? I see no difference from these games compared to the homestory cup games between say Hasuobs and empire happy for example. People are just jumping on the bandwagon to trash these players or BW fans just want to feel justified by hoping their players suck at SC2 to show how bad a move it was.

The game wasn't code S level but it was pretty much foreigner level. After all, these players are all Masters/Grand masters in the ladder, they aren't scrubs and better than 99% of the posters here.


I think you are overestimating the players. Except for a select few, most of the BW players are diamond level right now. Any decent player can recognize that their knowledge in this game isn't at a top level. The ones who are masters are always the ace match players for the most part. They play quite well.


Diamond Players would not have been able to react that quickly to the hellion drop, or go into late game and macro well without stacking up tons of resources.

I can't tell if your trolling because that statement is just ridiculous.


I'm pretty sure all that positional play I just watched in the TvT on Ohana was way better than what some random high ranked ladder hero could pull off. Calling these players diamond level is an insult.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 05:54:30
July 08 2012 05:54 GMT
#177
Saying they are diamond level is hilarious, Dapollo is Masters. Is he better than these guys? come on.

Same with Artosis.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
July 08 2012 05:55 GMT
#178
Effort red zerg 1 oclock
Soulkey blue zerg 5 oclock
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
July 08 2012 05:58 GMT
#179
Hatch after pool for Soulkey
Effort going for 15 hatch pool and gas for both players too
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
July 08 2012 05:59 GMT
#180
Ling speed started for Effort, pumping out 6 lings
Queens out for both players to puke into the hatcheries for larva
greenScarab building for Soulkey
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
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