yay! it's almost started!!! thanks to everyone for their comments, i really appreciate it.
im kind of kicking myself for not either combining the woongjin/samsung game with this thread or making another one... i guess its not too late but having two threads just seems like overkill to me... :/
Orion, play like you played against Jaedong all those years ago in the semi's! Pool first for Clam, 9 pool with extractor trick Orion going over pool, himself is getting gas as well
On July 01 2012 11:44 sc2superfan101 wrote: yay! it's almost started!!! thanks to everyone for their comments, i really appreciate it.
im kind of kicking myself for not either combining the woongjin/samsung game with this thread or making another one... i guess its not too late but having two threads just seems like overkill to me... :/
idk, guess i shouldn't worry about it.
Oh wow, that's a good idea. Due to the lowered interest in PL, and the fact that it's a 5 hour block anyway, maybe on the nights with the 2 matches we should just have one thread.
Creep colony being made at the nat for Clam Orion snipes off two lings popping out of an egg straight away Sunken morphing in Orion going in The sunken morphs in just in time! Orion focuses down a single drone and still has two lings running around
Looks like a total of two drones killed Spire should be up for both players now Calm's was faster Orion going to try and snipe the sunken at the front, but suffers a ton of loses
23-18 supply now Mutas out for Clam Orion forced to make a creep colony to save the drone Scourge are out, Clam has to be careful until he gets the muta flock Clam taking a second gas Orion still streaming lings towards Clam, but pulls back
On July 01 2012 11:44 sc2superfan101 wrote: yay! it's almost started!!! thanks to everyone for their comments, i really appreciate it.
im kind of kicking myself for not either combining the woongjin/samsung game with this thread or making another one... i guess its not too late but having two threads just seems like overkill to me... :/
idk, guess i shouldn't worry about it.
Oh wow, that's a good idea. Due to the lowered interest in PL, and the fact that it's a 5 hour block anyway, maybe on the nights with the 2 matches we should just have one thread.
OPs are at a premium these days.
yeah im thinking that would have been best, but whatevs...
So second gas for Orion yet 32-18 Clam has the lead in supply Orion supply capped a bit, wanted to get another muta or something First air engagement it seems Both flocks eating scourge and shots Orion's multitasking is really holding him back
Hyvaa's initial overlord headed across towards 11 oclock in the incorrect direction Depot-depot-rax wall at the top of FBH's ramp 12 hatch, 12 scout for Hyvaa
Pool morphing in for Hyvaa, Sexy GoRush is sexy <3 Nat up for Hyvaa Fact finished for FBH Marine and scv at the nat for FBH Marine lowers two drones to red FBH almost glitches the marine to the small area behind the mineral line but fials
Hyvaa taking 3 oclock and 12 oclock at the same time. Mutas out too Turrets are up, very few numbers though Hydra muta push now? One muta lost for a single turret Third CC on the way
Mutas fly in, but eat a lot of missiles FBH lifts the CC trying to take it, but Hyvaa is going to try and delay it Hydras are on the highground, camping with the mutas The units are kind of stuck
1-1 for mech 0-1 for the ranged zerg players Only a single turret for FBH in the main Facts and depots going to be delayed Stream freeze into mutas killing ebay 1 air carapace is done
Third keeps getting harassed by the mutas Lurkers are done, put up on the ridge, but get cleaned up FBH going to push the 3 ocock Mutas hit the natural Hydras countering the 3rd of FBH Third falls
Hydra muta push into the nat of FBH Mutas going to pick off two tanks, one falls both falls Mutas get claned up More hydras pour in though Two tanks on the high ground going to be the saving grace
Mass muta out of Hyvaa with +2 carapace Golaiths going to get rolled over FBH's goliath micro is so sick FBH's army ispulling back Tanks are going to fall now 73-57 Hyvaa favored
FBH's main is mined out, natural is running dry Overlord speed is done, drops might be too No sign of vessels yet Vultures tearing apart drones at the 12 oclock, 6 and 3 kills? not too sure
Hyvaa going to counter at the nat of FBH again Spider mines getting killed before they're affective CC falls at the nat 12 oclock is dead, as is the 11 nat Hyvaa still on 3 base Comsat gets focused down Lurkers morphing at the 9 oclock No detection, FBH can't win now
FBH going to lift all of his facts Mass mutas going to clean up though Single lurker I don't know whats going on FBH doesn't know about 9 oclock, I think thats why 2-1 for mutas GG from FBH
Alternating games each match. All teams play each other twice each round, one time being a Bo5 of just brood war, the second being a Bo7 of SC2 (they have to promote SC2, let em have a Bo7). Then, all fans of all types would get their fix. That would be a format I would support and tune into.
On July 01 2012 12:57 MountainDewJunkie wrote: You know what kind of hybrid would be way better?
Alternating games each match. All teams play each other twice each round, one time being a Bo5 of just brood war, the second being a Bo7 of SC2 (they have to promote SC2, let em have a Bo7). Then, all fans of all types would get their fix. That would be a format I would support and tune into.
I second this. I'd tune into this every week. Too bad we're stuck with this. I mean, they'd get a bit of prep time, instead of going into matches alternating
On July 01 2012 12:53 KenNage wrote: well, i ll play some pokemon while the next bw series start
New pokemon, or old? I'm thinking about playing Crystal again
haha i remember the first battle tower and how insanely hard it was compared to the newer games
Oh I sucked at battle tower. That shit was way easier in emerald.
I just love crystal because of all the breeding moves madness and the music. I also have a rom where the game is glitched where I can reset the time every time I open it woot woot mass manipulation
The only reason they are not following your suggestion MDJ is because if they did that most of the time fans only will come for the bw session and not the sc2 session . In other words they are forcing fans to watch both games and force feeding us to watch sc2 and hoping that some how magically we will turn in to e-sport(sc2 horde).
On July 01 2012 13:02 Sawamura wrote: The only reason they are not following your suggestion MDJ is because if they did that most of the time fans only will come for the bw session and not the sc2 session . In other words they are forcing fans to watch both games and force feeding us to watch sc2 and hoping that some how magically we will turn in to e-sport(sc2 horde).
Well, that's actually a very good point, and I agree. You're implying that there is not a large crowd waiting for another block of SC2 games in Korea? Or, are you implying what I believe, that the average korean would rather watch high level BW vs high level entry level SC2?
On July 01 2012 13:02 Sawamura wrote: The only reason they are not following your suggestion MDJ is because if they did that most of the time fans only will come for the bw session and not the sc2 session . In other words they are forcing fans to watch both games and force feeding us to watch sc2 and hoping that some how magically we will turn in to e-sport(sc2 horde).
Well, that's actually a very good point, and I agree. You're implying that there is not a large crowd waiting for another block of SC2 games in Korea? Or, are you implying what I believe, that the average korean would rather watch high level BW vs high level entry level SC2?
Koreans crowds still love broodwar just take a look at most of the bw osl reception and the number of fans watching the osl games are much more higher than your standard spl game.
On July 01 2012 13:08 X10A wrote: Technology add on for the rax Doulbe gas for both players Second gate for Trap, imbagates researching Jumping marine for Piano
Ahh, still the best LR on all of TL. Ever since Zona left us
opWraith and cloaking on the way Citadel for Trap, if the opWraith cloaks, no detection Maybe Trap is DT rushing? Or dtGoon flash rushing Robo being added now
I think Trap going to get obs to scout for the dtGoons to flash onto the high ground opWraith on the field, going to hit in main mineral line of Trap Cloak on the opWraith, up to five probe kills, and no mining from the main at all
Piano pushing out with some marines, football players, a tank and pulling scvs Two more gates being added for Trap Pylons set up to warp in some counter attacks No enough groundArbiters for rampStasis bigGoon targets down a tank dtGoon micro from Trap opWraiths tearing apart the dtGoons though
On July 01 2012 13:06 X10A wrote: Going to PL with mom, damn I wish my mom was into Starcraft like my dad TT Gate->gas Rax->rax
your dad is into sc?
No one reads my blogs D= Yeah, my dad got me into starcraft when I was really really young.
my dad got me in sc in 98 too ! also, i have never played the diamond/pearl or black/white pokemons, i feel like playing them now, but i was playing pokemon online, pretty fun , i wanted to play xenogears but my gf will kill me if i do so while shes not here oo;
On July 01 2012 13:06 X10A wrote: Going to PL with mom, damn I wish my mom was into Starcraft like my dad TT Gate->gas Rax->rax
your dad is into sc?
No one reads my blogs D= Yeah, my dad got me into starcraft when I was really really young.
my dad got me in sc in 98 too ! also, i have never played the diamond/pearl or black/white pokemons, i feel like playing them now, but i was playing pokemon online, pretty fun , i wanted to play xenogears but my gf will kill me if i do so while shes not here oo;
enough off topic xd
no no the off topic is good, its like we are bonding as people.
On July 01 2012 13:14 mordk wrote: Was it a 1-1-1?? I find it funny how PL transition is quickly reviewing all of SC2's history, it's like a chapter every 2 weeks
Also, Marauders = Football players made me ROFL hahahaha
On July 01 2012 13:19 X10A wrote: Are jumping marines used for anything other than scouting? Never see much of them
not really, i think they were supposed to be a harassing unit but they were nerfed because they were too powerful and now they only really have use as a scouter early game or for wierd Boxer builds.
On July 01 2012 13:19 X10A wrote: Are jumping marines used for anything other than scouting? Never see much of them
not really, i think they were supposed to be a harassing unit but they were nerfed because they were too powerful and now they only really have use as a scouter early game or for wierd Boxer builds.
Because reapers are so rare if you catch your opponent off guard and get a few worker kills if you are lucky. They are so fragile and take ages to build so you only every build 1-2 for early map control and scouting.
On July 01 2012 13:19 X10A wrote: Are jumping marines used for anything other than scouting? Never see much of them
they were nerfed into oblivion after the first major LAN event after the release.
To expand on this, MorroW used reapers to great effect in a 5-rax reaper build that built just reapers and pretty much raped zerg since their numbers went up way too fast. This was a TvZ build that got nerfed by making rax require depot to build and taking the speed upgrade for reapers higher up in the tech tree.
I'd like to see how 6-range queens would fare against old age reapers
Oh and Idra bitched a lot about this build in said finals, he got crushed by MorroW pretty badly
Two more gateways being added for Kal Technology add on is done on a rax, stim being researched Constant timewarp on probes, not on the core Robo being added now
Ghost academy is up, football players are being made, football palyer slow is finished +1 armor is upgrading Marine gets killed scouting the pylon, but doesn't see the flying pylon Storm and 3 zealots loaded into the flying pylon
Huge storms on the scvs 20 kills, even more dying Buffer into Bogus pushing up the ramp into the nat of Kal Bogus gets pushed back by the zealot archon
Third up for Kal now 8 gates total, 2/2 on the way and another flying pylon Three more gates being made Anthoer 3 zealot 1 HT drop Bogus does indeed scout it though No scvs in the main though
Huge storm son the bio army Storms eat up the zealots too EMP on the army of Kal too! 2/2 finishes also! Bogus' army is absolutely been crushed though GG from Bogus ACE takes SC2 2-0
Bogus needed to take a third when he did his first push with the medivacs. Also his upgrades where pretty slow, which against zealots is really big. Kal played a pretty good game, didn't really make any big mistakes, had some nice harass.
Three rax, one with technology imbagates just about done for Guemchi, two more gates, three total and robo Stim researching Nexus warping in at the nat for Guemchi
Double reactor for the two other rax Marines breaking down the rocks blocking the ramp to the third Double forge for Guemchi Starport and ebay being added for Classic
Ah I'm ladding dtGoon flash being researching, 2/2 also and archives being added Classic tried to fake drop at the nat, and tried to drop at the main but tthey didn't work Attempted drop at the nat also, doesn't work rampStasis zones out the army Classic lifts up, but both healing dropships that have units die Double drop in the main
Ghosts out on the map now for Classic Cancel on the third CC, from two zealots Four healing dropships loaded to the brim Observer scouts it out though Zealot legs are done, third nexus warping in
+1 armor finished, second ebay is up now too Storm is finished +3 armor on the way HT get caught up ahead, one HT get killed by a ghost, and a feedback on the rest of the ghosts
2/2 on the way for Classic now Six ghosts for Classic Two ghosts die to feedback, rest of the HT die Double scan on the army emp on a big portion of the army Classic's army getting whittled down Kites pretty well though
All of the heading dropships just died to the dtGoon's Classic's army looks extremely tiny now No forward pylon, so the reinforcements will be pretty behind +3 armor done, +3 attack only just now started 2/2 for Classic about to finish
+3 attack just about done, tripod range started, but gets cancelled. Fourth nexus started First tripod on the way Ghosts getting picked off Fourth nexus under attack, no cancel!
3/3 on the way for Classic Only two AA ships for Classic, no upgrades Tripod range on the way now Third nexus going to get sniped now? No I don't think so Tons of probes going to die
Guemchi taking his fourth yet again +1 air attack being upgraded Second robo being added Guemchi's multitask is really getting tasked, all of these drops are pulling him apart
3/3 and +1 air attack finish Classic going to force the engagement Huge emps Nice storms and feedbacks Classic's army getting ramp through Four tripods, and no aa ships left
Main CC getting floated to a fourth base 197-121 supply Guemchi favored Up to 6 tripods, not enough aa ships to deal with them ace clapping on Guemchi The Third is going to come under fire
On July 01 2012 14:15 Ribbon wrote: That was a pretty decent TvP. I wish Classic has taken a 4th sooner, but still. SPL SC2 is occasionally getting decent.
should have taken a 4th when he was succesfully harassing G-Chizzle's 4th.
Are you bw fans becoming more acustomed to sc2? Not long ago every single "should you watch this sc2 game" poll, there would only be "no" as the answer. Lately there are more "yes". Of course I'm not asking whether you prefer sc2 over bw, but are you less resistant?
On July 01 2012 14:34 Zenbrez wrote: Are you bw fans becoming more acustomed to sc2? Not long ago every single "should you watch this sc2 game" poll, there would only be "no" as the answer. Lately there are more "yes". Of course I'm not asking whether you prefer sc2 over bw, but are you less resistant?
Not really, it's pretty much accepted that in Round 1 (season 2), the SC2 games were incredibly bad, especially compared to other SC2 leagues. Players are improving and thus better games are produced and thus we are responding more positively. This trend however will in no way quench our thirst for more BW games, the two are not strongly correlated, even if GMarshal calls us elitists.
On July 01 2012 14:34 Zenbrez wrote: Are you bw fans becoming more acustomed to sc2? Not long ago every single "should you watch this sc2 game" poll, there would only be "no" as the answer. Lately there are more "yes". Of course I'm not asking whether you prefer sc2 over bw, but are you less resistant?
Wouldn't surprise me at all if there are more BW fans watching the SC2 part of proleague than people who are just fans of SC2.
The overall games of SC2 have been steadily increasing in entertainment value since the beginning of R1, plus we've also had some good BW games this week.
There's three things worth noting. There haven't been a LR thread for SPL in the SC2 section for 2 weeks now (feel free to correct me there). I've always more or less disregard 15 vote poll for matches, especially for an Ace one (here I know it's STX vs Ace but come on...). The poll for this first part of PL were already heavily inflated toward Yes after a few weeks compared to what the same games would have drawn a year before.
On July 01 2012 18:16 corumjhaelen wrote: There's three things worth noting. There haven't been a LR thread for SPL in the SC2 section for 2 weeks now (feel free to correct me there). I've always more or less disregard 15 vote poll for matches, especially for an Ace one (here I know it's STX vs Ace but come on...). The poll for this first part of PL were already heavily inflated toward Yes after a few weeks compared to what the same games would have drawn a year before.
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