On February 25 2012 13:37 Motivate wrote: fucking terran. can't believe toss complains about zvp being hard when zvt is easily the most imbalanced match up. and that wooing CJ guy.... erhghghg i hate leta now.
Its not imbalanced -.- its just a very smartly designed build. If you let jaedong play against it again Im sure he'll be fine.
The goliath/MM push was a build that I think was popular for like a month back in 2009 or 2010 in PL, I forget how people beat it though.
Edit: I want to say it was the same style of build that Advokate used to take a game off of JD in WCG, but that might've been a pure goliath timing; I don't remember.
On February 25 2012 13:41 Elyvilon wrote: The goliath/MM push was a build that I think was popular for like a month back in 2009 or 2010 in PL, I forget how people beat it though.
Flash did something like that twice in 2009 and the second time he just got pwned by Jaedong's mutas. But that was opening with bio and adding gols. Flash also went goliaths into surprise bio switch, which I don't recall anyone else ever doing using that particular surprise timing.
Golionic is really an excellent build though, very unlikely for JD to have been able to scout that unless he sacs mutas to scout, which he has no reason to because it just seems like normal goliath timing push.
On February 25 2012 13:41 Elyvilon wrote: The goliath/MM push was a build that I think was popular for like a month back in 2009 or 2010 in PL, I forget how people beat it though.
Flash reused it in his 3-0ing of Jaedong too. Well in a bit different. Jaedong actually guessed it right I think, but a bit too late, and I'm pretty sure he would have won it without those early losses, which snowballed into worse muta harass, later third and later lurk + smaller army... Anyway, nice game by leta.
On February 25 2012 13:37 Motivate wrote: fucking terran. can't believe toss complains about zvp being hard when zvt is easily the most imbalanced match up. and that wooing CJ guy.... erhghghg i hate leta now.
Leta did a really good job blocking the third; killed 2 or 3 drones trying to put it up, and then he deflected the muta pressure with almost no damage. 2-hatch has to do more than that to come out even, and the missing gas from the late third really hurt against that push.
On February 25 2012 13:36 kuroshiroi wrote: How the fuck do you counter everything? Tank, goliath, bio...
By not playing minesweeper.
I don't think that would have mattered. That force seemed ridiculously strong and JD only managed to kill a few tanks and marines. But I guess we'll never know. He did play poorly though, looks like JD has been practicing ZvZ and ZvP again and not only ZvT.
I think Jaedong should have went for +1 Carapace Hydra Lurker to stop the push. Hydras to absorb the initial blow by tanks and Lurkers to stabilize. Then from that point on, make Speedlings until hive.
EPT
