On January 18 2012 21:24 revy wrote: Did I miss one of the manner CCs? Why do people say there were 2, I saw only one at the nat. I wouldn't really count the CC he built beside the nexus, to me that was just him expanding along his push path. I've seen Flash legitimately build CC's next to other player's expos when he while he waits for a tank or two to take it down.
There is a fundamental difference.
He was attacking it with an SCV
On January 18 2012 21:25 o[twist] wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:24 Motivate wrote: manner CC's were very uncalled for imo
but i'm glad to see bogus doing well after being on the losing end of so many good games in the first round. i have a feeling bogus has potential to be number 2 terran very soon because he can actually bio unlike fantasy
imho bogus is definitely more talented than fantasy. he's played some phenomenal games and his record doesn't reflect the skill he's shown.
Woah slow down there....
Bogus needs to win an SL first before you compare him to Fantasy.
Do SLs mean anything anymore????
yeah, that's fair. talent is a hard thing to evaluate and i guess i don't have much proof for my opinion, just the sense i've gotten over a whole slew of games
Also you have to realize that Fantasy is just being overshadowed by Flash. If Flash didn't exist, Fantasy would have been the leading Terran of BW.
idk. while he's a great player, in a lot of games, especially vZ, he just doesn't seem strong to me. he doesn't have the brilliance of TBLS and he also has a few glaring deficiencies, like bio control.
He will be legitimately considered on par with TBLS when he wins a couple more titles and finally stops his trademark "LOL WUT" moves (e.g. suiciding units into Last's 20 sieged tanks, lifting his rax to invite Calm's lurkers, etc etc)
btw, Wooki tries to push into Trap's natural but is unsuccessful.
well, if he wins more titles, i'll have to reassess my view
On January 18 2012 21:24 revy wrote: Did I miss one of the manner CCs? Why do people say there were 2, I saw only one at the nat. I wouldn't really count the CC he built beside the nexus, to me that was just him expanding along his push path. I've seen Flash legitimately build CC's next to other player's expos when he while he waits for a tank or two to take it down.
There is a fundamental difference.
He was attacking it with an SCV
On January 18 2012 21:25 o[twist] wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:24 Motivate wrote: manner CC's were very uncalled for imo
but i'm glad to see bogus doing well after being on the losing end of so many good games in the first round. i have a feeling bogus has potential to be number 2 terran very soon because he can actually bio unlike fantasy
imho bogus is definitely more talented than fantasy. he's played some phenomenal games and his record doesn't reflect the skill he's shown.
Woah slow down there....
Bogus needs to win an SL first before you compare him to Fantasy.
Do SLs mean anything anymore????
yeah, that's fair. talent is a hard thing to evaluate and i guess i don't have much proof for my opinion, just the sense i've gotten over a whole slew of games
Also you have to realize that Fantasy is just being overshadowed by Flash. If Flash didn't exist, Fantasy would have been the leading Terran of BW.
idk. while he's a great player, in a lot of games, especially vZ, he just doesn't seem strong to me. he doesn't have the brilliance of TBLS and he also has a few glaring deficiencies, like bio control.
He will be legitimately considered on par with TBLS when he wins a couple more titles and finally stops his trademark "LOL WUT" moves (e.g. suiciding units into Last's 20 sieged tanks, lifting his rax to invite Calm's lurkers, etc etc)
btw, Wooki tries to push into Trap's natural but is unsuccessful.
People makes these mistakes sometimes. Have you seen Sin vs Bisu?? Yeah ...
On January 18 2012 21:24 revy wrote: Did I miss one of the manner CCs? Why do people say there were 2, I saw only one at the nat. I wouldn't really count the CC he built beside the nexus, to me that was just him expanding along his push path. I've seen Flash legitimately build CC's next to other player's expos when he while he waits for a tank or two to take it down.
There is a fundamental difference.
He was attacking it with an SCV
On January 18 2012 21:25 o[twist] wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:24 Motivate wrote: manner CC's were very uncalled for imo
but i'm glad to see bogus doing well after being on the losing end of so many good games in the first round. i have a feeling bogus has potential to be number 2 terran very soon because he can actually bio unlike fantasy
imho bogus is definitely more talented than fantasy. he's played some phenomenal games and his record doesn't reflect the skill he's shown.
Woah slow down there....
Bogus needs to win an SL first before you compare him to Fantasy.
Do SLs mean anything anymore????
yeah, that's fair. talent is a hard thing to evaluate and i guess i don't have much proof for my opinion, just the sense i've gotten over a whole slew of games
Also you have to realize that Fantasy is just being overshadowed by Flash. If Flash didn't exist, Fantasy would have been the leading Terran of BW.
idk. while he's a great player, in a lot of games, especially vZ, he just doesn't seem strong to me. he doesn't have the brilliance of TBLS and he also has a few glaring deficiencies, like bio control.
He will be legitimately considered on par with TBLS when he wins a couple more titles and finally stops his trademark "LOL WUT" moves (e.g. suiciding units into Last's 20 sieged tanks, lifting his rax to invite Calm's lurkers, etc etc)
btw, Wooki tries to push into Trap's natural but is unsuccessful.
i don't see him anywhere near flash/jaedong/bisu but i do see him being at the same level as stork. stork has also only won 1 osl as well.
EPT
