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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
December 18 2011 08:49 GMT
#1621
On December 18 2011 17:48 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:47 Iplaythings wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:45 Release wrote:
Stats is the Kal of 2012

Fuck you

Stats is the Stats of KT, not limmited to any year

Only thing stats and kal has shared is that they both cant beat JD to save their life :p And Stats' playstyle is more like Free if anything


I would edit the fck you out of there man , just chill out , he doesn't mean it in a bad way i believe


the fuck you has so much passion in it, remove that he hes just saying shit.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 18 2011 08:50 GMT
#1622
On December 18 2011 17:48 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:46 Lysanias wrote:
Effort's drop play did very little damage that also did not really help him, also getting muta with that many HT's out not the best call they all popped like popcorn instantly.


those drops were very ill-conceived and stats spotted them and reacted expertly


Like placing his first lurker in canon range
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 18 2011 08:50 GMT
#1623
On December 18 2011 17:48 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:44 ShadeR wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:41 Taekwon wrote:
Never makes sense ;lol


KT is clutch.

KT IS THE CLUTCHEST TEAM EVER!

Oh come on now =_=. That is so far from the truth lol.


I don't know dude we won every proleague playoff match on the back of Hoejja, Roo, and some voodoo magic. The team isn't that strong, but it is clutch.

Yeah its just that blind said "EVER" and it brought me back to when KT was chock block full of super stars, each player an ace match candidate.


Well, that was KTF, the most unclutch team ever.

This is KT!

Differences.
Remember Violet.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
December 18 2011 08:51 GMT
#1624
On December 18 2011 17:50 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:48 o[twist] wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:46 Lysanias wrote:
Effort's drop play did very little damage that also did not really help him, also getting muta with that many HT's out not the best call they all popped like popcorn instantly.


those drops were very ill-conceived and stats spotted them and reacted expertly


Like placing his first lurker in canon range


yeah when i saw it I was like,hes seriously not going to go through those cannons is he?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 18 2011 08:51 GMT
#1625
On December 18 2011 17:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:47 Iplaythings wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:45 Release wrote:
Stats is the Kal of 2012

Fuck you

Stats is the Stats of KT, not limmited to any year

Only thing stats and kal has shared is that they both cant beat JD to save their life :p And Stats' playstyle is more like Free if anything


No it isn't. Free dominated PvZ with a steady amassment of units into a lategame that was unfathomably good (like Free's lategame PvZ at one point was so good that bisu would cream his panties). He wasn't completely devoid of aggression, but it wasn't his defining trait.

Stats is hyper aggressive in the early game and likes to push out if at all possible in the midgame. He's also hellbent on overlord hunting with his corsairs (the majority of his top notch pvz wins you will see him sacrificing sairs for early overlord kills, like in this game). Stats likes to end the game fast. Free in his prime is basically the polar opposite of Stats.

Hmm true, but it's nothing like Kal's harass everywhere style, and stats' play is more similar given that he has no problems about going to the lategame (and he takes expos at like every timing unless he knows that he can end the game)
In the woods, there lurks..
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 18 2011 08:52 GMT
#1626
On December 18 2011 17:50 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:48 o[twist] wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:46 Lysanias wrote:
Effort's drop play did very little damage that also did not really help him, also getting muta with that many HT's out not the best call they all popped like popcorn instantly.


those drops were very ill-conceived and stats spotted them and reacted expertly


Like placing his first lurker in canon range


Things happen. Nut yeah, Stats was really good defending the drops. And the failed drops didn't help effort.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 08:54:02
December 18 2011 08:52 GMT
#1627
Hydra lost a ZvZ and EffOrt lost a ZvP, if someone told me that they both would happen in the same game and vs HoeJJa and Stats respectively, I'd die of laughter. And why would someone ever send Horang2 in the first set? It was pretty obvious that Stats wouldn't play on set #1.

And Stats' PvZ is only second to Bisu? Give me a break. Stats lost to SKT Zergs last year more than he won against them.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 08:53:39
December 18 2011 08:52 GMT
#1628
On December 18 2011 17:51 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:47 Iplaythings wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:45 Release wrote:
Stats is the Kal of 2012

Fuck you

Stats is the Stats of KT, not limmited to any year

Only thing stats and kal has shared is that they both cant beat JD to save their life :p And Stats' playstyle is more like Free if anything


No it isn't. Free dominated PvZ with a steady amassment of units into a lategame that was unfathomably good (like Free's lategame PvZ at one point was so good that bisu would cream his panties). He wasn't completely devoid of aggression, but it wasn't his defining trait.

Stats is hyper aggressive in the early game and likes to push out if at all possible in the midgame. He's also hellbent on overlord hunting with his corsairs (the majority of his top notch pvz wins you will see him sacrificing sairs for early overlord kills, like in this game). Stats likes to end the game fast. Free in his prime is basically the polar opposite of Stats.

Hmm true, but it's nothing like Kal's harass everywhere style, and stats' play is more similar given that he has no problems about going to the lategame (and he takes expos at like every timing unless he knows that he can end the game)


Stats does small attacks with ground units that are very micro oriented(one of stats favorite strategies is an early 2 zealot 1 dragoon 1 probe attack on a zerg third, for instance, or one quick dt for prodding like you saw here). Kal was more of a drop harass guy (red shuttle) that is more multitasking oriented. Similar effects, different style.
Remember Violet.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 18 2011 08:54 GMT
#1629
On December 18 2011 17:51 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:47 Iplaythings wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:45 Release wrote:
Stats is the Kal of 2012

Fuck you

Stats is the Stats of KT, not limmited to any year

Only thing stats and kal has shared is that they both cant beat JD to save their life :p And Stats' playstyle is more like Free if anything


No it isn't. Free dominated PvZ with a steady amassment of units into a lategame that was unfathomably good (like Free's lategame PvZ at one point was so good that bisu would cream his panties). He wasn't completely devoid of aggression, but it wasn't his defining trait.

Stats is hyper aggressive in the early game and likes to push out if at all possible in the midgame. He's also hellbent on overlord hunting with his corsairs (the majority of his top notch pvz wins you will see him sacrificing sairs for early overlord kills, like in this game). Stats likes to end the game fast. Free in his prime is basically the polar opposite of Stats.

Hmm true, but it's nothing like Kal's harass everywhere style, and stats' play is more similar given that he has no problems about going to the lategame (and he takes expos at like every timing unless he knows that he can end the game)


He just seems to play modern PvZ which requires being aggressive with zealots early on. And he can play it well. He maybe doesn't have multitasking of Bisu but I guess he's more similar to Stork
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
December 18 2011 08:54 GMT
#1630
On December 18 2011 17:52 Djagulingu wrote:
Hydra lost a ZvZ and EffOrt lost a ZvP. And why would someone ever send Horang2 in the first set? It was pretty obvious that Stats wouldn't play on set #1.

Jade is a protoss map. So many PvP and manner pylons to prove it.
CJ coach get's it mostly right, but the player just don't pull through. 3.5/5 matchup wins.
☺
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 18 2011 08:55 GMT
#1631
On December 18 2011 17:54 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:52 Djagulingu wrote:
Hydra lost a ZvZ and EffOrt lost a ZvP. And why would someone ever send Horang2 in the first set? It was pretty obvious that Stats wouldn't play on set #1.

Jade is a protoss map. So many PvP and manner pylons to prove it.
CJ coach get's it mostly right, but the player just don't pull through. 3.5/5 matchup wins.


4/5. There is no favorable matchup to Flash.
Remember Violet.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 18 2011 08:55 GMT
#1632
lmao this oughta shut up all the CJ fans
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 18 2011 08:56 GMT
#1633


Flash theme song for this year proleague ^^
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 18 2011 08:56 GMT
#1634
On December 18 2011 17:52 Djagulingu wrote:
Hydra lost a ZvZ and EffOrt lost a ZvP, if someone told me that they both would happen in the same game and vs HoeJJa and Stats respectively, I'd die of laughter. And why would someone ever send Horang2 in the first set? It was pretty obvious that Stats wouldn't play on set #1.

And Stats' PvZ is only second to Bisu? Give me a break. Stats lost to SKT Zergs last year more than he won against them.


He also wiped the floor with CJ and Woongjin zergs. PvZ is a little flukey and Stats is no exception, but there really isn't someone besides Bisu who has impressed in PvZ as much as Stats has over the last two years.
Remember Violet.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 18 2011 08:56 GMT
#1635
On December 18 2011 17:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 17:51 Iplaythings wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:47 Iplaythings wrote:
On December 18 2011 17:45 Release wrote:
Stats is the Kal of 2012

Fuck you

Stats is the Stats of KT, not limmited to any year

Only thing stats and kal has shared is that they both cant beat JD to save their life :p And Stats' playstyle is more like Free if anything


No it isn't. Free dominated PvZ with a steady amassment of units into a lategame that was unfathomably good (like Free's lategame PvZ at one point was so good that bisu would cream his panties). He wasn't completely devoid of aggression, but it wasn't his defining trait.

Stats is hyper aggressive in the early game and likes to push out if at all possible in the midgame. He's also hellbent on overlord hunting with his corsairs (the majority of his top notch pvz wins you will see him sacrificing sairs for early overlord kills, like in this game). Stats likes to end the game fast. Free in his prime is basically the polar opposite of Stats.

Hmm true, but it's nothing like Kal's harass everywhere style, and stats' play is more similar given that he has no problems about going to the lategame (and he takes expos at like every timing unless he knows that he can end the game)


Stats does small attacks with ground units that are very micro oriented. Kal was more of a drop harass guy (red shuttle) that is more multitasking oriented. Similar effects, different style.

That's very different in itself, kal also opens 2stargate and robotics openings (for DT, storm or reaver drops) often, while the last time I remember stats going robo openings was vs zero on odd-eye where he did the speedlot storm reaver timing (Which I believe M18M failed trying to do earlier this year? It was a game on Chain Reaction atleast)

Let's just say that I like to think that stats' style is his own :3
In the woods, there lurks..
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 18 2011 08:57 GMT
#1636
OK, now I can go to bed all happy. KT won, CJ lost, Effort lost - CJ/Effort's fanboys will hopefully become a bit more quiet at the forum and we will all live in a better world from now on.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 18 2011 08:58 GMT
#1637
Guys how the FUCK did I stay up to watch a shitty TvT where the loser blows his tremendous advantage then fall sleep through the last 2 epic games? Is this punishment for something I've done?
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 18 2011 08:58 GMT
#1638
I have bad news to all other pro league team's we are coming to get you ^_^ , for all the lolster jokes you were throwing at us when we we are losing like hell .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
December 18 2011 08:58 GMT
#1639
FUCK YEAH KT THIS FEELS SO GOOD

stats And hoejja so clutch
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 18 2011 08:58 GMT
#1640
On December 18 2011 17:57 Lebesgue wrote:
OK, now I can go to bed all happy. KT won, CJ lost, Effort lost - CJ/Effort's fanboys will hopefully become a bit more quiet at the forum and we will all live in a better world from now on.

Us KT fans will probally be helluva more noisy and annoying...

LETS DO IT!
In the woods, there lurks..
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