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ShuttingFromTheSky
Japan199 Posts
On December 18 2011 18:00 o[twist] wrote: why is it almost a week and a half before KT plays again? no momentum there It's actually only 6 days, son. As i see it they play on the 24th against Woongjin. | ||
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
but i checked the store and saw 1-2 with hydra and effort left to play and was like, sighh then i kept reading the LRs... KT KT KT KT ;D so thank you for the hype! | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On December 18 2011 18:14 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: I still don't understand how Stats has such a good record vs the CJ and Stars Zergs. Is his PvZ style suited to countering the CJ/Stars Zergs style or something? Admittedly I haven't watched many of the games between them. His style is aggressive and very boom or bust. CJ/Woongjin zergs are very hardcore macro heavy late game players and Stats exploits their weaknesses well. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
But it's well known that despite its depth, CJ isn't the most reliable team due to its uncanny ability to choke when necessary. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On December 18 2011 18:21 TwoToneTerran wrote: His style is aggressive and very boom or bust. CJ/Woongjin zergs are very hardcore macro heavy late game players and Stats exploits their weaknesses well. Not to mention he practices with Action (he said that action is unbeatable inhouse in some interview last year so they prolly practice a good amount) so he is confident going into lategame. On December 18 2011 18:22 Lightwip wrote: Disappointing. But it's well known that despite its depth, CJ isn't the most reliable team due to its uncanny ability to choke when necessary. .. Watch the games KT won, come back, look me in the eyes and tell me that effort and hydra choked (I didnt watch the first 3 games, so I'll be shut about them) | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On December 18 2011 18:22 Lightwip wrote: Disappointing. But it's well known that despite its depth, CJ isn't the most reliable team due to its uncanny ability to choke when necessary. go away >:[ | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
On December 18 2011 18:21 TwoToneTerran wrote: His style is aggressive and very boom or bust. CJ/Woongjin zergs are very hardcore macro heavy late game players and Stats exploits their weaknesses well. stats is just an all around really solid player, i would actually say that stats is not particularly aggressive (bisu and movie tend to have a lot more early / midgame pressure with zealots and mid-sized balls of doom) as a PvZer but he has a good eye for expansions that i think very few other protosses do when playing against zerg. stat's has a pretty a good record vs CJ and Stars zergs, but his record against most zergs that aren't Jaedong (he's 0-7 against JD out of a 35-29 vZ total) is also very impressive (around 61%). Jaedong in particular tends to go for lategame vP as a default build when he doesn't seem to have prepared for a vP matchup on maps for early pressure (much to his detriment as of late, what with very far third and fourths on the maps last season), which imo is one of the reasons why stats hasn't been able to beat JD yet: he isn't good at pressuring him when he is relying on sim city and mobile lings to defend his expoes, whereas bisu in particular is very good at KO'ing JD early with his signature zealot harass. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Stats more often will attack with his first units than not. Not sure why you don't think he's aggressive when it's very clearly his preferred style. He didn't in this game because, well, goddamn look at that map man. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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b0lt
United States790 Posts
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Askalaphos
Germany772 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
On December 18 2011 18:39 TwoToneTerran wrote: Most of stats losses to Jaedong are slight mistimings or minor early game mistakes like letting lings runby. They hardly ever made it to the mid-lategame and when they did, Jaedong had a massive advantage. Stats more often will attack with his first units than not. Not sure why you don't think he's aggressive when it's very clearly his preferred style. He didn't in this game because, well, goddamn look at that map man. i suppose its more of what you compare them to, i drew the comparison between stats and bisu because they both have (imo) a somewhat similar PvZ style that focuses on getting a third-destroying ball push with HT, and between them bisu is decisively more aggressive in the early-midgame and in drawing a comparison between JD and CJ / woongjin zergs, i wouldn't say that they are lategame oriented as compared to JD and his ever-growing fetish for getting 4 hatcheries and 3 expoes before any deep tech lol. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
Our first taste of sweet victory, came from CJ's first tears. KT hell yeah. + Show Spoiler + On December 18 2011 17:38 Elyvilon wrote: I don't think storm does damage to buildings. lol. + Show Spoiler + On December 18 2011 14:34 konadora wrote: KT ROFLSTOMPEDSTER double lol. | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
well, it seems that KT will be always the rock in our shoes | ||
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yskay
Argentina23 Posts
win vs cj Lol | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51080 Posts
On December 18 2011 19:24 yskay wrote: lose vs ace win vs cj Lol scumbag KT. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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kidcrash
United States623 Posts
On December 18 2011 18:34 Navi wrote: stats is just an all around really solid player, i would actually say that stats is not particularly aggressive (bisu and movie tend to have a lot more early / midgame pressure with zealots and mid-sized balls of doom) as a PvZer but he has a good eye for expansions that i think very few other protosses do when playing against zerg. stat's has a pretty a good record vs CJ and Stars zergs, but his record against most zergs that aren't Jaedong (he's 0-7 against JD out of a 35-29 vZ total) is also very impressive (around 61%). Jaedong in particular tends to go for lategame vP as a default build when he doesn't seem to have prepared for a vP matchup on maps for early pressure (much to his detriment as of late, what with very far third and fourths on the maps last season), which imo is one of the reasons why stats hasn't been able to beat JD yet: he isn't good at pressuring him when he is relying on sim city and mobile lings to defend his expoes, whereas bisu in particular is very good at KO'ing JD early with his signature zealot harass. Yeah I notice he has pretty impeccable expansion timing. I also noticed that he only engages when he knows he is in good position to and never throws away units (Jaehoon vs Zero). Just all around solid decision making on as consistent basis. | ||
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