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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
August 13 2011 16:35 GMT
#1021
Remember, jangbi lost a lot of troops in his defense maneuver as well, putting him in a bad position to counter a third base of flash. And he wouldve needed to attack up ramp. Nuke talked about this in his commentary
Aah thats the stuff..
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
August 13 2011 17:05 GMT
#1022
When is day 2? There's so much shit in the calendar, lol.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 17:07:24
August 13 2011 17:05 GMT
#1023
On August 14 2011 02:05 Torenhire wrote:
There's so much shit in the calendar, lol.

One of the best comments I've read in a long time
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 13 2011 17:27 GMT
#1024
On August 14 2011 02:05 Torenhire wrote:
When is day 2? There's so much shit in the calendar, lol.

26th of this month
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 13 2011 17:51 GMT
#1025
Very relieved Flash won his game. I was nervous after Jangbi smashed Flash's first push. I think what sealed it for Flash was his emp's of Jangbi's ht. The storms Jangbi managed to get off were good but he only managed to fire off around 50% of the storms he could have thanks to Flash's science vessels.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
August 13 2011 18:39 GMT
#1026
On August 14 2011 02:05 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 02:05 Torenhire wrote:
There's so much shit in the calendar, lol.

One of the best comments I've read in a long time


lol, I didn't mean it like THAT.


mostly. >>

On August 14 2011 02:27 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 02:05 Torenhire wrote:
When is day 2? There's so much shit in the calendar, lol.

26th of this month



26th Korean (which is 25th for US)? Assuming so, either way, I can go from there an find it. Thanks a lot
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
August 13 2011 22:46 GMT
#1027
JangBi = ( Come on! Win with that swag next time!
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 14 2011 00:46 GMT
#1028
i hope flash humiliates Jangbi in the same fashion he did to Jaedong two years ago.
☺
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 14 2011 01:38 GMT
#1029
On August 13 2011 17:21 Toadily wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:42 deafhobbit wrote:
3 - BO loss, but what a BO loss. For me the moment of the game was when Soo messed up and pulled his lings back to his ramp when Killer was going after his natural for the second time. Really shows the importance of position in ZvZ, as Killer was able to split his lings, using half to contain Soo behind his ramp while the other half killed the hatch.


wat

killer 9 pooled while soo 12 pooled, where the BO loss, the fast expo? he could've easily defended that if he pulled drones earlier or even canceled his hatch and probably still be ahead or reacted fast enough not to lose a set of lings

On August 14 2011 00:02 hellbound wrote:
Wow, Killer's game was pure distilled rape. What's with all the talk about bo loss? 9p is at a disadvantage against 12p.

...and other posts I didn't bother finding to quote.

Soo did NOT go 12 pool; he went overpool --> expand. Here's the VOD: see for yourself (look at the unit counter if you're not sure).
+ Show Spoiler [VOD] +
Either way, Killer's play that game was impressive as heck, though.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
August 14 2011 02:03 GMT
#1030
Ignore the unit counter it is worthless, in the VOD you clearly see 3 eggs morphing at the same time as the pool morphing in. Now the VOD doesn't show if he built the eggs first or the pool first, but judging by the fact that the pool has so extremely low health when it is shown coupled with the fact that overpool isn't really used any more I'm pretty sure that it's a 12 pool.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
August 14 2011 02:31 GMT
#1031
On August 14 2011 11:03 HopLight wrote:
Ignore the unit counter it is worthless, in the VOD you clearly see 3 eggs morphing at the same time as the pool morphing in. Now the VOD doesn't show if he built the eggs first or the pool first, but judging by the fact that the pool has so extremely low health when it is shown coupled with the fact that overpool isn't really used any more I'm pretty sure that it's a 12 pool.

yeah i think the unit counter only counts units after they are built rather than the moment they are starting
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 14 2011 03:23 GMT
#1032
On August 14 2011 11:03 HopLight wrote:
Ignore the unit counter it is worthless, in the VOD you clearly see 3 eggs morphing at the same time as the pool morphing in. Now the VOD doesn't show if he built the eggs first or the pool first, but judging by the fact that the pool has so extremely low health when it is shown coupled with the fact that overpool isn't really used any more I'm pretty sure that it's a 12 pool.

On August 14 2011 11:31 Motivate wrote:
yeah i think the unit counter only counts units after they are built rather than the moment they are starting
Oh, then I stand corrected. Sorry.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
August 14 2011 04:41 GMT
#1033
Not to mention how much later the pool was, if it was overpool it would've been much faster.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 14 2011 04:57 GMT
#1034
On August 14 2011 10:38 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 17:21 Toadily wrote:
On August 13 2011 15:42 deafhobbit wrote:
3 - BO loss, but what a BO loss. For me the moment of the game was when Soo messed up and pulled his lings back to his ramp when Killer was going after his natural for the second time. Really shows the importance of position in ZvZ, as Killer was able to split his lings, using half to contain Soo behind his ramp while the other half killed the hatch.


wat

killer 9 pooled while soo 12 pooled, where the BO loss, the fast expo? he could've easily defended that if he pulled drones earlier or even canceled his hatch and probably still be ahead or reacted fast enough not to lose a set of lings

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 00:02 hellbound wrote:
Wow, Killer's game was pure distilled rape. What's with all the talk about bo loss? 9p is at a disadvantage against 12p.

...and other posts I didn't bother finding to quote.

Soo did NOT go 12 pool; he went overpool --> expand. Here's the VOD: see for yourself (look at the unit counter if you're not sure).
+ Show Spoiler [VOD] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZjY3h4Rddg&#t=2m33s
Either way, Killer's play that game was impressive as heck, though.

I havent rewatched the VOD, and correct me if i'm wrong, but was Soo slow on pulling drones once he lost two lings?
☺
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 14 2011 05:27 GMT
#1035
On August 14 2011 13:57 Release wrote:
I havent rewatched the VOD, and correct me if i'm wrong, but was Soo slow on pulling drones once he lost two lings?
He was very slow: he didn't pull them until his hatchery was down to about half health.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Letalis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Bulgaria180 Posts
August 14 2011 10:21 GMT
#1036
Can someone translate http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=48731 =) (Flash's interview)
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
August 14 2011 11:57 GMT
#1037
Jangbi played pretty well, just a few loose ends screwed him over. I think he expected his 2 shuttle harass to buy him a little more time. If he could have delayed flash for about 2-3 more minutes, I think his chances of beating flash's push would have been significantly better. Flash's killer EMPs won him the game. I respect Jangbi's templar heavy style (since carriers eat at your minerals), he just needs to take care of them a little better. The storms that Jangbi did throw out were pretty good nonetheless.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 15 2011 04:20 GMT
#1038
On August 13 2011 09:55 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 21:38 DropBear wrote:
I've never seen Flash lose against Carriers. Ever.

Why would you do it? He just doesn't lose to it.

He's lost plenty of games to carriers. He's lost to carriers against Shuttle. He's lost to carriers against Jangbi. He's lost to carriers against Tyson on this very map. He's lost to carriers against Kal. I'm just thinking of these games off the top of my head.

Anyway, what strategy is good against Flash?

4pool flash since he 14cc's every game
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 15 2011 04:40 GMT
#1039
On August 15 2011 13:20 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 09:55 Djabanete wrote:
On August 12 2011 21:38 DropBear wrote:
I've never seen Flash lose against Carriers. Ever.

Why would you do it? He just doesn't lose to it.

He's lost plenty of games to carriers. He's lost to carriers against Shuttle. He's lost to carriers against Jangbi. He's lost to carriers against Tyson on this very map. He's lost to carriers against Kal. I'm just thinking of these games off the top of my head.

Anyway, what strategy is good against Flash?

4pool flash since he 14cc's every game

except the ever OSL where he 1rax CC every game.
☺
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
August 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#1040
uhm... Leta was able to win when he got 4 pooled vs 14 CC...
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
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