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[SPL] Grand Finals: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 323

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Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
August 19 2011 12:40 GMT
#6441
On August 19 2011 21:38 o[twist] wrote:
are there a lot of new people here who don't know the history between best and flash? not that it's serious history, but there was a point, early in flash's dominance, in summer to fall 2008, when best was considered the top contender to flash for best player in the world, and actually beat him in the middle of a huge streak, i think several times. best is a macro player who specializes in pvt and can't really do anything else anymore. on the other hand, bisu is quite weak in pvt (see his msl series versus mind, his osl series versus iris, etc.).


bisu has had questionable PvT throughout all his carreer (even though he said he's doing fine in practice) and many say he still has, but he is just winning them left and right nowadays and his elo represents that.
this is not because bisu is soomehow not fit to play flash here and now, it's just that as you said best is flash antidote, the best there is next to jeadong...so yeah bring him out here

(formwise it's questionable though)
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 19 2011 12:40 GMT
#6442
On August 19 2011 21:40 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:38 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
I'm okay with the decision from Coach Park.

You're in a tough spot either way against the likes of Flash, but it's been a while since Fanta has really pushed Flash, and Flash tends to find a way to win anyway. Bisu just doesn't seem to have an answer either (unless he was prepared with a strategic build).

If I'm Flash then I'm going for early aggression again. Hopefully Best has let that first game go and can find a way to turn it into a drawn out macrofest.

Well I'm not okay with the fact that nobody in the first 6 games brought in a special build. Basically KT dictated the strategies for each match.

i think the decision is sound, i wish hyuk was sent instead of best
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 19 2011 12:40 GMT
#6443
It's zerg day - should have been Hyuk!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
August 19 2011 12:40 GMT
#6444
If BeSt wins than he rips his shirt off like Hulk Hogan!
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
August 19 2011 12:40 GMT
#6445
On August 19 2011 21:37 Seki Santoku wrote:
skt1 really should have sent out bisu, his 400 apm could just break flash's weak wrists!


WOW
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6446
I want to see some Battlecruisers! Don't care if they are horrible against P but this game ought to be epic!
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6447
Bisu definitely has some issues in PvT. It's easy to overlook because of his insane record in proleague even vs. T but Best is the one who beat Flash twice during this season.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7833 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6448
On August 19 2011 21:40 Doraemon wrote:
only 1 zerg win out of 6.

BUFF ZERG!
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6449
On August 19 2011 21:39 Kiwifruit wrote:
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LOLOLOLOL
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6450
Circuit breaker's statistics: PvT: 71-62 (53.4%)
Flash vs BeSt statistics : 5 wins - 6 losses (45.45%)
Flash vs Bisu statistics : Record: 14 wins - 9 losses (60.87%)
Flash vs Fantasy statistics : Record: 13 wins - 5 losses (72.22%)

Pretty much SKT1 best choice was... BeSt ;D
Enjoy the game
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6451
On August 19 2011 21:37 Klaca wrote:
Oov Was so smart by talking smack about how good bisu was. This totally got KT off guard now.


I don't think so, they were going to send Best last proleague finals so its not out of the picture to send him this time round. All Flash knows is that he's going to play Bisu, Best, or Fantasy and chances are he's going to play a protoss.
mevshero
Profile Joined December 2009
911 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6452
i hate my best friends for being at summerbreeze festival.
otherwise we would've get one beer after another watching this dramatic finals

DAMN U
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6453
On August 19 2011 21:40 TheOnly92 wrote:
From psychological view (though I'm not a specialist or something), Bisu would've been a better candidate than Best.


... why? bisu had to have told the coaches he was not confident, and best had to have said the contrary, otherwise park would not have ordered one of the two to go fight. best clearly has the best chance against flash in this situation, if you consider history to mean anything.
C r u m b l i n g
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6454
On August 19 2011 21:40 Doraemon wrote:
only 1 zerg win out of 6.

hard to avoid a zerg winning a ZvZ =P
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6455
On August 19 2011 21:39 bo0 wrote:
What was the theoretical best choice of player SKT could have made? Regarding practice time on this match, weaknesses/strenghts in the different matchups, etc


I would say Fanta. He does have a pretty nice mech managment, and his tvt is fairly good.
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6456
On August 19 2011 21:40 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:38 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
I'm okay with the decision from Coach Park.

You're in a tough spot either way against the likes of Flash, but it's been a while since Fanta has really pushed Flash, and Flash tends to find a way to win anyway. Bisu just doesn't seem to have an answer either (unless he was prepared with a strategic build).

If I'm Flash then I'm going for early aggression again. Hopefully Best has let that first game go and can find a way to turn it into a drawn out macrofest.

Well I'm not okay with the fact that nobody in the first 6 games brought in a special build. Basically KT dictated the strategies for each match.


game 1: kt cheesed, fanta went bio (special for him)
game 2: bisu pvz, no need to be special
game 3: zvz
game 4: somewhat special dragoon-focused build
game 5: it's flash, come on
game 6: seemed like a somewhat map-specific 4hatch build light on hydras
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6457
I'm afraid that if best loses twice to flash in the finals he will retire
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
yskay
Profile Joined January 2010
Argentina23 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6458
KT Fighting
flash fighting~!!!
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#6459
Let's see if Flash can survive 400 waves of Protoss units now.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 19 2011 12:41 GMT
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