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Destillat
Profile Joined February 2011
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:09:40
July 27 2011 13:07 GMT
#841
Ok so I'm very new to the BW scene so forgive me if this is common knowledge, but:

What happens if Hyuk wins?

ASSUMING HYUK WINS; the standings will be:

Hyuk: 3 - 0

Everyone else 1 - 2

And every player left will have lost to each other:

+ Show Spoiler +

Jaedong > Modesty
Modesty > hyvaa
hyvaa > Jaedong


So what do they do then? I can't see an obvious tiebreaker that doesn't involve another set of games. Or is there a losers bracket round or something?
"Right on!"
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
July 27 2011 13:08 GMT
#842
Why reading the "if Hyuk wins, then there will be tiebreakers, so there are still some chances" I always feel like I'm a football fan of some lowlevel team.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 27 2011 13:08 GMT
#843
IIRC they play tiebreakers until one player wins two games in a row.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
July 27 2011 13:09 GMT
#844
On July 27 2011 22:05 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:59 Motivate wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:57 kuroshiroi wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:55 KTF_CloaK wrote:
i think modesty is gonna beat hyuk fairly easy, he is a ZvZ sniper after all...

but then JD is out with hyvaa?

JD beat Modesty and lost to Hyuk. It's ZvZ, luck is a pretty big factor. And Hyuk isn't exactly bad at ZvZ either.

even if it is zvz, watching hyvaa play there made me sad

he can barely micro mutas vs scourge. i wouldn't put it all down to luck.


no, but he did make a very smart tactical decision and had good execution to take down the extractor. he controlled his lings well, lost none unnecessarily (i think?) until the extractor was down.

it is easy to fault jd + BO but sometimes these small mistakes end up being much huger than you think. it is very easy to criticise from a retrospective point of view but these things escape many people when you're concentrating on something else.

how many people could have seen the extractor snipe was possible before hyvaa did it?

He chased JD's lings past the sunken after winning the ling battle near the extractor, unnecessarily losing a bunch in the process. As a result, he had to retreat and give up on the extractor until reinforcements arrived from his base. If that had been a round of drones instead of lings, he wouldn't have been able to kill the extractor at all, but then again he may have overextended with the knowledge that reinforcements were coming and that he would get the extractor in the end anyway.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
July 27 2011 13:10 GMT
#845
On July 27 2011 22:07 Destillat wrote:
Ok so I'm very new to the BW scene so forgive me if this is common knowledge, but:

What happens if Hyuk wins?

ASSUMING HYUK WINS; the standings will be:

Hyuk 3 - 0

Everyone else 1 - 2

And every player left will have lost to each other:

+ Show Spoiler +

Jaedong > Modesty
Modesty > hyvaa
hyvaa > Jaedong


So what do they do then? I can't see an obvious tiebreaker that doesn't involve another set of games. Or is there a losers bracket round or something?


It's a tiebreaker with 3 people. they play a round robin essentially (3 games), and if someone wins both his games, he advances. If everyone ends up 1-1, they play again. And again.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 27 2011 13:10 GMT
#846
On July 27 2011 22:10 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 22:07 Destillat wrote:
Ok so I'm very new to the BW scene so forgive me if this is common knowledge, but:

What happens if Hyuk wins?

ASSUMING HYUK WINS; the standings will be:

Hyuk 3 - 0

Everyone else 1 - 2

And every player left will have lost to each other:

+ Show Spoiler +

Jaedong > Modesty
Modesty > hyvaa
hyvaa > Jaedong


So what do they do then? I can't see an obvious tiebreaker that doesn't involve another set of games. Or is there a losers bracket round or something?


It's a tiebreaker with 3 people. they play a round robin essentially (3 games), and if someone wins both his games, he advances. If everyone ends up 1-1, they play again. And again.

..and again.. and again.. and then effort's mouse breaks.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Evs
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines330 Posts
July 27 2011 13:10 GMT
#847
This is Hyuk, it does not matter what the skill of the opponent is.

The chance of Hyuking is always 100% with 50/50 ratio of doing it to himself or his opponent.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
July 27 2011 13:11 GMT
#848
On July 27 2011 22:10 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 22:10 Cpadolf wrote:
On July 27 2011 22:07 Destillat wrote:
Ok so I'm very new to the BW scene so forgive me if this is common knowledge, but:

What happens if Hyuk wins?

ASSUMING HYUK WINS; the standings will be:

Hyuk 3 - 0

Everyone else 1 - 2

And every player left will have lost to each other:

+ Show Spoiler +

Jaedong > Modesty
Modesty > hyvaa
hyvaa > Jaedong


So what do they do then? I can't see an obvious tiebreaker that doesn't involve another set of games. Or is there a losers bracket round or something?


It's a tiebreaker with 3 people. they play a round robin essentially (3 games), and if someone wins both his games, he advances. If everyone ends up 1-1, they play again. And again.

..and again.. and again.. and then effort's mouse breaks.


And it was the worst day of starcraft. Ever.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 27 2011 13:14 GMT
#849
so JD is basically out ?
Dead girls don't say no.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:17:51
July 27 2011 13:16 GMT
#850
On July 27 2011 22:14 Sqq wrote:
so JD is basically out ?


not quite. Hyuk can save him/doom him by winning/losing next game.

edit: sorry i made this wrong at first.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
July 27 2011 13:17 GMT
#851
ugh. Come on HiyA, win against sOo and get Sea to a tiebreaker! I believeeeee
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 27 2011 13:26 GMT
#852
On July 27 2011 22:11 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 22:10 moopie wrote:
On July 27 2011 22:10 Cpadolf wrote:
On July 27 2011 22:07 Destillat wrote:
Ok so I'm very new to the BW scene so forgive me if this is common knowledge, but:

What happens if Hyuk wins?

ASSUMING HYUK WINS; the standings will be:

Hyuk 3 - 0

Everyone else 1 - 2

And every player left will have lost to each other:

+ Show Spoiler +

Jaedong > Modesty
Modesty > hyvaa
hyvaa > Jaedong


So what do they do then? I can't see an obvious tiebreaker that doesn't involve another set of games. Or is there a losers bracket round or something?


It's a tiebreaker with 3 people. they play a round robin essentially (3 games), and if someone wins both his games, he advances. If everyone ends up 1-1, they play again. And again.

..and again.. and again.. and then effort's mouse breaks.


And it was the worst day of starcraft. Ever.


I thought MBCGame going down or matchfixing was the worst day of starcraft?
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:30:55
July 27 2011 13:30 GMT
#853
Even if Hyuk were to win his group and avoid the other 3-0 players, he'd be playing against players like Hydra/SoO/Baby. I don't think he could take any of those series'. Maybe SoO...
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
July 27 2011 13:32 GMT
#854
On July 27 2011 22:30 Gescom wrote:
Even if Hyuk were to win his group and avoid the other 3-0 players, he'd be playing against players like Hydra/SoO/Baby. I don't think he could take any of those series'. Maybe SoO...


Your lack of faith in your captain is disturbing
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#855
On July 27 2011 22:14 Sqq wrote:
so JD is basically out ?

Its not like I dont like JD or something, but somehow, I really want him to be out.

would make things more interesting imo
T H C makes ppl happy
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
July 27 2011 13:39 GMT
#856
--- Nuked ---
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:43:14
July 27 2011 13:40 GMT
#857
I just woke up. Oh my god, what happened...

Please tell me I'm still in a nightmare and this isn't reality.....

What happened to his muta control? Ever since that series vs Hydra, it's gone down dramatically.....
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:47:09
July 27 2011 13:45 GMT
#858
On July 27 2011 22:11 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 22:10 moopie wrote:
On July 27 2011 22:10 Cpadolf wrote:
On July 27 2011 22:07 Destillat wrote:
Ok so I'm very new to the BW scene so forgive me if this is common knowledge, but:

What happens if Hyuk wins?

ASSUMING HYUK WINS; the standings will be:

Hyuk 3 - 0

Everyone else 1 - 2

And every player left will have lost to each other:

+ Show Spoiler +

Jaedong > Modesty
Modesty > hyvaa
hyvaa > Jaedong


So what do they do then? I can't see an obvious tiebreaker that doesn't involve another set of games. Or is there a losers bracket round or something?


It's a tiebreaker with 3 people. they play a round robin essentially (3 games), and if someone wins both his games, he advances. If everyone ends up 1-1, they play again. And again.

..and again.. and again.. and then effort's mouse breaks.


And it was the worst day of starcraft. Ever.

Either that or (T)Canata vs. (T)Shine[Name]

The VOD may not remain, but the LR thread details the great suffering that took place that day:

On April 16 2009 16:22 Orbifold wrote:
Shine maneuvers his battle cruisers, then gets married and has a child before cleaning the dust off his keyboard.

Canata finishes a best selling novel, and is now about half way though its sequel. Then he EMPs something.

On April 16 2009 16:30 Orbifold wrote:
Canata gets off a good EMP before pulling back, western civilization collapses. Season after season passes and within 5 generations mankind has reverted to a simple hunter gatherer life style. The game continues and the local tribes begin a religion in which the battle booths are gods.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
July 27 2011 13:48 GMT
#859
On July 27 2011 22:26 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 22:11 Cpadolf wrote:
On July 27 2011 22:10 moopie wrote:
On July 27 2011 22:10 Cpadolf wrote:
On July 27 2011 22:07 Destillat wrote:
Ok so I'm very new to the BW scene so forgive me if this is common knowledge, but:

What happens if Hyuk wins?

ASSUMING HYUK WINS; the standings will be:

Hyuk 3 - 0

Everyone else 1 - 2

And every player left will have lost to each other:

+ Show Spoiler +

Jaedong > Modesty
Modesty > hyvaa
hyvaa > Jaedong


So what do they do then? I can't see an obvious tiebreaker that doesn't involve another set of games. Or is there a losers bracket round or something?


It's a tiebreaker with 3 people. they play a round robin essentially (3 games), and if someone wins both his games, he advances. If everyone ends up 1-1, they play again. And again.

..and again.. and again.. and then effort's mouse breaks.


And it was the worst day of starcraft. Ever.


I thought MBCGame going down or matchfixing was the worst day of starcraft?


Worst day of playing.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 27 2011 13:50 GMT
#860
Great

I have to cheer for hyuk now

lol.
WriterXiao8~~
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