Actually Shine is a good player, but he knocks out the wrong guys every time. Hopefully Stork is not out now, but he need Shine's help to advance now.

//edit: and win his own games of course.

Rustymike

Finland327 Posts

July 15 2011 12:02 GMT

#502

On July 15 2011 21:01 hellbound wrote:

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Hive has no upgrades for hydras, there, explained.

+3/+3 upgrades

Lucumo

6850 Posts

July 15 2011 12:02 GMT

#503

On July 15 2011 20:59 Holgerius wrote:
Shine plays with so much tunnel-vision. Hydras. MOAR HYDRAS! He had a huuuuuge bank for most of the game, and he still didn't tech to Hive. That's one click, and he could've easily afforded it considering the bad job he was doing keeping his money low.

The fact that this play beat Stork makes me even sadder. That was bad by Dinotoss.

He morphed some of them into lurkers

And Stork's shuttle/reaver control wasn't good at all, so why would you not make Hydras?

don_kyuhote

3006 Posts

July 15 2011 12:02 GMT

#504

On July 15 2011 21:01 kuroshiroi wrote:

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Shine killed Stork's reaver and denied his DT harass. Probably won the game right there.

That and Stork is in a terrible slump.

Shine killed the shuttle but the reaver was saved, but yeah, Stork failing to get his harass done lost him the game.

kuroshiroi

3149 Posts

July 15 2011 12:03 GMT

#505

On July 15 2011 21:02 don_kyuhote wrote:

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Shine killed the shuttle but the reaver was saved, but yeah, Stork failing to get his harass done lost him the game.

Oh, he managed to unload the reaver? I missed that. Either way, it zerg doesn't get harassed in a ZvP, they'll probably win.

hellbound

United Kingdom2242 Posts

July 15 2011 12:03 GMT

#506

On July 15 2011 21:02 Rustymike wrote:

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+3/+3 upgrades

Bah why would shine buy carapace when he can just build MOAR :3

+3 maybe but the again you can build MOAR and protoss will melt all the same.

lyAsakura

United States1414 Posts

July 15 2011 12:04 GMT

#507

God, there is so much stork fanboyism here. Stork played that bad, and he was floating thousands too despite all his production buildings bunched up in one group.

And he didn't save the reaver in the shuttle snipe. He could have though.

Severedevil

United States4830 Posts

July 15 2011 12:04 GMT

#508

On July 15 2011 21:00 don_kyuhote wrote:
Fact of the matter is, Stork never punished Shine taking 4 bases and drone whoring.

Yep.

Shine held air control for too long --> Stork couldn't attack with Zealots only (or Zealot/Reaver). Stork needed either a second Stargate or a couple of archons.

kuroshiroi

3149 Posts

July 15 2011 12:04 GMT

#509

On July 15 2011 21:03 hellbound wrote:

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Bah why would shine buy carapace when he can just build MOAR :3

+3 maybe but the again you can build MOAR and protoss will melt all the same.

Also, storm and reaver don't really care about upgrades.

sixfour

England11061 Posts

July 15 2011 12:04 GMT

#510

On July 15 2011 21:02 jaQi wrote:
Actually Shine is a good player, but he knocks out the wrong guys every time

weird to see someone say that who doesn't have an skt tag

Lucumo

6850 Posts

July 15 2011 12:04 GMT

#511

On July 15 2011 21:03 kuroshiroi wrote:

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Oh, he managed to unload the reaver? I missed that. Either way, it zerg doesn't get harassed in a ZvP, they'll probably win.

You are probably talking about different shuttles. He didn't unload the shuttle he lost early on to scourges(the one above the cliff right before it was able to reach Stork's natural).

hellbound

United Kingdom2242 Posts

July 15 2011 12:05 GMT

#512

On July 15 2011 21:04 Severedevil wrote:

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Yep.

Shine held air control for too long --> Stork couldn't attack with Zealots only (or Zealot/Reaver). Stork needed either a second Stargate or a couple of archons.

Both robo and archives are expensive, he couldn't really afford that since he was also replacing lost sairs.

jjhchsc2

Korea (South)2393 Posts

July 15 2011 12:05 GMT

#513

On July 15 2011 20:58 purpose wrote:
Well same old story....fuck pvz is so damn retarded. Making hydras is a good talent toi have!!

User was temp banned for this post.

lol bad troll.
stork played bad that game as he didnt do any economic damage at all which allowed shine to just drone up like crazy.

pinkranger15

Philippines1597 Posts

July 15 2011 12:06 GMT

#514

stork. :\

kuroshiroi

3149 Posts

July 15 2011 12:06 GMT

#515

On July 15 2011 21:04 Lucumo wrote:

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You are probably talking about different shuttles. He didn't unload the shuttle he lost early on to scourges(the one above the cliff right before it was able to reach Stork's natural).

Yeah, that's the one I meant. His first reaver + shuttle. Pretty big deal and may have given Stork flashbacks to his final against Fantasy.

gngfn

United States1726 Posts

July 15 2011 12:06 GMT

#516

If anything Stork was the one tunnel visioning. He failed to notice an extra reaver that was only one screen away from his army, left a second reaver at his third even though there was no way Shine could break it uphill against 20 cannons, lost all his sairs pointlessly at a time when they could have been killing overlords and forcing scourge, and continued making zealot/goon even though at one point he had 1000 gas and could have made a round of HT to blanket Shine's entire army in storms. That was just bad.

popzags

Poland604 Posts

July 15 2011 12:08 GMT

#517

Had Stork pushed with his forces towards LEFT side of the map, then he would expand to 4th and the following reinforcements he could produce would hold off choke to his natural. At least I guess so... But he was hopelessly outmacroed and outpositioned and that ridiculous Probe transfer pretty much deprived him from effective mining at his 3rd.