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2010-2011 Shinhan Bank ProLeague Playoffs Day 2Sunday, July 10th 05:00 GMT (+00:00)
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/uniforms/2.png) KT Rolster vs STX SouL![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/uniforms/5.png) < New Empire of the Sun> < Fortress SE > < Alternative > < New Bloody Ridge > < Neo Aztec > < La Mancha > < Icarus >
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VhJVv.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +Poll: Would you recommend game 1?Yes (17) 57% No (11) 37% Check it out if you have time. (2) 7% 30 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
+ Show Spoiler +I worked hard already, and now I'm going to sleep. Please sing me a lullaby while I do so. Poll: Would you recommend game 2?No (10) 71% Yes (3) 21% Check it out if you have time. (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game 2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBdKlNsuPd4&feature=youtu.be
Korsakov brought a smile to my face this week. Maybe it'll have the same effect on you. By the way, the Shuttle pics are there primarily for Torenhire. I did no fulfill his expectations earlier, but maybe he'll forgive me yet . Poll: Would you recommend game 3?No (7) 100% Yes (0) 0% Check it out if you have time. (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
+ Show Spoiler +STX, I know you are not perfect, but you are my team. I love you, no matter todays outcome. Just try not to break my heart this time, that's all I ask. Poll: Would you recommend game 4?Yes (26) 90% No (3) 10% Check it out if you have time. (0) 0% 29 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
+ Show Spoiler +I watched a movie called "Black Gestapo" recently. I expected a really, really bad movie, but that's why I was looking forward to it so much. Unfortunately, for a movie with black "fascists" in it, it was really tame, and not even remotely as bad as say, Birdemic: I guess I can add that to the list of disappointments this month. Poll: Would you recommend game 5?Check it out if you have time. (9) 47% No (7) 37% Yes (3) 16% 19 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game 5? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
+ Show Spoiler +I myself am a walking disappointment. Poll: Would you recommend game 6?No (10) 59% Check it out if you have time. (4) 24% Yes (3) 18% 17 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game 6? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
Poll: Would you recommend game 7?Yes (13) 59% Check it out if you have time. (5) 23% No (4) 18% 22 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game 7? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hp9Ms.png) (unplayed games will be given random description to avoid spoilers).+ Show Spoiler +
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UbIV2.png) Fold's stream
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
and now you will never know what I planned on doing to you in the event you didn't make this thread.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
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I am rooting for KT, but I still enjoy your company. *Hugs mustaju*
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Is that Hwasin for STX picture in the banner?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:02 Tenhou wrote:
Is that Hwasin for STX picture in the banner?
clam in the main banner,modesty in the section header.
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Sick banner. *hopes that Flash is in good enough shape to play win dominate *
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On July 10 2011 12:02 Tenhou wrote:
Is that Hwasin for STX picture in the banner?
Calm looks nothing like Hwasin -_-
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On July 10 2011 12:04 smekz wrote:
^think its calm
On July 10 2011 12:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 12:02 Tenhou wrote:
Is that Hwasin for STX picture in the banner? clam in the main banner,modesty in the section header.
Damn, something is wrong with my eyes. I see it resemble Hwasin more than Calm, but then again I missed Hwasin.
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Estonia4504 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:07 Tenhou wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 12:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:On July 10 2011 12:02 Tenhou wrote:
Is that Hwasin for STX picture in the banner? clam in the main banner,modesty in the section header. Damn, something is wrong with my eyes. I see it resemble Hwasin more than Calm, but then again I missed Hwasin.
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That's a weird angle for Calm.
Hope we do better tonight =[.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Wonder if STX will field Shuttle today
On July 10 2011 12:12 ZeaL. wrote:
That's a weird angle for Calm.
Hope we do better tonight =[.
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Hopefully the match doesn't go 4-1 this time. I want KT to win, but a more interesting match would be nice :3.
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2-0 incoming!
(also, what happens if it ends up 1-1? super ace or a true bo3?)
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:42 Vivi57 wrote:
2-0 incoming!
(also, what happens if it ends up 1-1? super ace or a true bo3?)
third day will be on the 12th.if needed...
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Estonia4504 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:42 Vivi57 wrote:
2-0 incoming!
Good luck in the next round then.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:45 mustaju wrote:Good luck in the next round then.
what? you gave up?
seriously bro I'm scared,what happened to you?
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On July 10 2011 12:45 mustaju wrote:Good luck in the next round then.
Easy. the round after that though...
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stx must win for the express purpose of a tie-break.
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Come on KT, lets do this <3
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On July 10 2011 12:48 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 12:45 mustaju wrote:On July 10 2011 12:42 Vivi57 wrote:
2-0 incoming! Good luck in the next round then. Easy. the round after that though...
Certain death the round after that round.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:56 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 12:48 Vivi57 wrote:On July 10 2011 12:45 mustaju wrote:On July 10 2011 12:42 Vivi57 wrote:
2-0 incoming! Good luck in the next round then. Easy. the round after that though... Certain death the round after that round.
lol you're funny.
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Nice banner mustaju - I love it.
Saved a copy just for the heck of it.
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cue pleading the gods for a solid stream
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or not, guess this doesn't start for another hour
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light playing great today! :D
So aggressive! mowahaha
DROPSHIPPEEE!!!
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Man, this is what I call multitasking!!!
LIGHT FTW!!
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Netherlands45349 Posts
you are in the wrong thread lol.
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ZOMG! You're right..
lolol sorry
(no wonder I'm the only one in this thread cheering..hahaha)
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On July 10 2011 13:32 aupstar wrote:ZOMG! You're right.. lolol sorry (no wonder I'm the only one in this thread cheering..hahaha)
How about you edit your 2 post before someone comes in and get spoiled, just a precaution
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
so I was googling for some proleague images(old ones) and I found this.
+ Show Spoiler +
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come on kt! you can do this!
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On July 10 2011 13:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:so I was googling for some proleague images(old ones) and I found this. + Show Spoiler +
Got an STX one here
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gV31t.jpg)
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time to get this show on the road.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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KT fighting!!!!
thanks fold for the stream :D
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Thanks for the stream.
Go, go KT!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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Godspeed, STX 
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I'm so tired, I haven't slept a wink.
Gogo KT, finish this off fast so I can go to sleep.
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KT Fighting!
Stream <3 Fold you're the best
... GoRush, accept my FB friend request please <3
I saw hes friends with Yellow as well!
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Time to 2-0 baby! Gogogo!
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Flash with 30.9% of KT's wins this season.
Stats with 25.5%
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KT should take this ezpz
Tho I don't mind seeing Super ACE Match
(the format is still the same as it was last season right?)
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On July 10 2011 14:06 nayumi wrote:
KT should take this ezpz
Tho I don't mind seeing Super ACE Match
(the format is still the same as it was last season right?)
They'll play a third Bo7 if STX wins.
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On July 10 2011 14:06 nayumi wrote:
KT should take this ezpz
Tho I don't mind seeing Super ACE Match
(the format is still the same as it was last season right?)
It's a Bo3 of Bo7s, no super ace game.
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flash not on bench; probably sent first
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Flash up first I think. He's not on the bench.
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Kal not on the bench either.
Must be Flash vs Kal
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kal not on bench so probably him
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On July 10 2011 14:07 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Flash up first I think. He's not on the bench.
vs Kal? I can't see him too.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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Flash up for KT and for STX its... Shuttle
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Haha STX's coach tapping his fingers like he has some master plan
But Flash is up!
against Shuttle
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Man, progamers jersey are getting uglier each year...
Like compare KT black uniform with the current ones, or Wemade Fox in 2007 and now, or even more obvious, STX current uniform...
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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Flash has been pretty weak vs toss lately and I doubt he has had much chance to work on it due to his wrist.
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LEE YOUNG HO
vs...
Shuttle, Crush him God, please for me <3
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Go Shuttle!! GOOD LUCK!! <3<3<3
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Flash vs. Shuttle
Should be a good match.
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So Kal isn't going to play today or he just went out to pee?
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Estonia4504 Posts
Best possible MU for STX vs. Flash, actually. Not that it matters.
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Great lineup call by STX
Though Icarus isn't a big macro map, doesn't quite play to Shuttle's strengths as much. Everything contingent on how much Flash has been preparing and his form, of course.
Edit: why did I think this was on Icarus?? I take back everything I said. Natural lineup call, should be interesting.
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Get your revenge, Flash. No excuses.
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On July 10 2011 14:09 Holgerius wrote:Flash has been pretty weak vs toss lately and I doubt he has had much chance to work on it due to his wrist.
I'm expecting some kind of aggressive timing attack as opposed to the usual turtle style.
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Eye twitches from flash.
uh oh.
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God Yellow terran at 7
Shuttle orange toss at 1
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Best guess, since KT leads w/ Stats a lot, Shuttle was sent out to snipe.
Flash HWAITING!!!
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Flash will win off 3 base ez
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Hooo boy... good luck shuttle.
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Seems like Flash is setting up for a Rax FE.
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Stream forward!
Flash Rax FE
His nat is coming up now
He's started scouting
Shuttle has one gate, core up core is spinning
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shuttle taking his nat, adding a second gate.
flash's scv scout denied by goon.
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Stream dont lag please T.T
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
scouting probe and SCV fist bump each other.
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scv gets in now, sees the 2 gate and core.
nat finishes, probes transferring.
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Come on streamu.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 10 2011 14:14 moopie wrote:
shuttle taking his nat, adding a second gate.
flash's scv scout denied by goon.
what stream are you watching?
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Shuttle taking his nat, adding 2nd gateway
Flash unable to get his scout into Shuttle's main
First fact going up for Flash
Bunker setup infront of the wall off
Flash's scv gets into the nat, but goon pylon is blocking, NO Shuttle lets Flash's scv in
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Good opening for Flash, Shuttle wont even be able to pressure Flash's front before he'll have a tank out.
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Shuttle grabbing an early 3rd, while 3 goons apply pressure on Flash's bunker.
1st tank out.
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3 Goons bombarding the bunker
Flash already with academy done
Observatory placed at the 3rd choke, Shuttle also takes his 3rd at 2
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On July 10 2011 14:16 revy wrote:
Good opening for Flash, Shuttle wont even be able to pressure Flash's front before he'll have a tank out.
lol but 3 goon is hitting the bunker...
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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Streamuu D= Hold on
Shuttle is taking his 3rd at 2 oclock
Robotics is up
4 goons hammering away at the bunker setup at the wall off
Seige is complete
Academy and armory complete
Goons not backing off to a shell
Flash mispositioned his tank, bunker might go down!
Goons pull out after another shell
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Tank sieged but out of range of the goons to the right, Flash takes 2 scvs off repairing but has to bring them back
Armory already done?
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OH SHIT FLASH'S BUNKER ALMOST FELL... THAT WAS CLOSE
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Or the stream jumps ahead a bit and I see 3 goons firing at the bunker, lol.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 10 2011 14:17 revy wrote:
Or the stream jumps ahead a bit and I see 3 goons firing at the bunker, lol.
more Flash forwarding.
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Shuttle taking his nat gas, on 4 gates
Flash adding starport, 3rd factory, and 3rd CC in his main
First obs heading into his main
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Shuttle adding 3rd and 4th gateway
Obs is complete
Shuttle's 3rd is up and running
CC in main for Flash, 2 facts added, 3 total, starport going up
Observer getting into the main, and sees all
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obs sees flash's 3rd cc.
stargate warping in for shuttle.
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Any alternative stream other than fold's?
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choppy stream imo
edit: improving =)
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Obs spots everything of note
Flash moving tanks out to cover his megachoke (and 3rd
Stargate placed!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 10 2011 14:18 KamMoye wrote:
choppy stream imo
better than no stream.
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wow. flash loses all his tanks
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Flash's 3rd CC floating towards 10 - Shuttle's goons gathering outside Flash's megachoke - and just charges in, no zealots
Flash bringing scvs and marines to defend
A few tanks picked off but goons alone not so great against sieged tanks
but some tanks out of range
zero tanks left!
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ughhh all tanks dead 1 machine shop
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
LOL SCV SCRAMBLE!
@holgie:bit by..
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facility done, 4th factory done (just 1 shop)
shuttle has a killer look on his face
More goons heading down
5th gate, fleet beacon, and another stargate placed?
Flash scans the pesky obs on his megachoke and takes it out
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No mines -> super-predictable result
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carriers for shuttle after he trades his goons for tanks
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omg, Shuttle sniped al those tanks, this may have just swung the game in his favor. o_O
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Why you no make vultures
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flash is screwed.
but shuttle is going carriers.
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flash in trouble. losing his tanks and gols again
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Flash with just 1 tank and a few goliaths holding his megachoke as another 8 goons come
Tank picked off, another tank comes, scvs pulled
the other tank destroyed
Flash was wayyy too greedy and tried to take his 3rd off like no units
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Stargate is going up for Shuttle
Looks like goons are moving out,
CC is floating over to the 8 oclock
Tanks are sieged up in position
Goons are not pressing the ramp yet
They run into sever tanks
No mines yet!
Goons taking lots of hits, but Flash only has 2 tanks left!
scvs pulled off to defend
No tanks left
Only 2 goons left, and a golaith to defend
4 facts rae up now
Goons are being killed off by 2 goliaths
Shuttle adds his 5th gateway and 2 more stargates
Flash decides to scan for the obs
Goons are rallied outside of his ramp, ~9
Only one tank
Goons are jus focusing down the tank
Only a tank and goliath left
scvs forced off the line
I dislike you so Shuttle
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Man shuttle with some pretty good micro. I don't think Flash is going to be able to handle the carriers if he survives that long.
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3 stargates now - Carriers probably won't even ben needed
goons moving to kill scvs at Flash's 3rd
Nothing in the bunker there
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More gatewys being added
Shuttle is in the 8 oclock expo, scvs trying to kill off the goons, but cannot get the surround, tank sieges, and 3 are left behind the mineral line
3 stargates are pumping carriers now, Core is spinning
I'd say about 9 gateways are up for Shuttle
Ohh Flash T.T
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C'mon Flash, give us an awesome comeback game!
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shuttle even preparing zealot bombs
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1 tank sieges over the 3rd and sfinally drives the goons away
Shuttle adding 4 more gates (9?)
Still goons being pesky at Flash's 3rd - Flash can't mine
1 Shuttle ready with 4 zealots waiting
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It's so weird watching Flash play like this.
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shuttle starts his 4th at 5oclock
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United States10328 Posts
flash looks to be in huge trouble T.T
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shuttle's play is flawless
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Make that 8 zealots
Citadel is placed, Shuttle tkaing a 4th at 4.5
Forge spinning
Obs comes into Flash's main again, scanned and taken out as it spots the 5 factories
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Smart play by Shuttle, his aggression really gave him the edge.
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2 carriers are out and shuttle moves out with them
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On July 10 2011 14:21 Holgerius wrote:It's so weird watching Flash play like this.
Incredibly passive TvP is weird to watch Flash play?
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flash got super greedy and shuttle punished him for it, now flash is hugely behind.
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Flash fortifying his 3rd and megachoke - but not enough on the megachoke IMO
2 carriers heading out with some zealots
Flash adding 2 more factories - has like just a few tanks on his megachoke and 2 at his rally point
goon/zealot/shuttle/carrier coming towards Flash's 3rd
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Forge and citadel are up for Shuttle at his 3rd
He has 5 oclock
Flash picking off obs as they get into his main
First carriers are out
Shuttle loaded up with zealots
6 facts for Flash
Shuttle is going to be attacking from the 8 oclock, from behind
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giving flash any breathing room at all can mean death for his opponent
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On July 10 2011 14:22 gngfn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:21 Holgerius wrote:It's so weird watching Flash play like this. Incredibly passive TvP is weird to watch Flash play?
It's weird to watch Flash play bad TvP. It's weird to watch Flash play bad in general.
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Shuttle's transferred probes to his 4th are all idle
but they wake up as the next round of probes come
Shuttle takes the gas at his 4th
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Depot wall is forcing them away
Probes are not mining yet at the 5 olcock
Now starting
Flash clumping his tanks, sieges
Stream D=
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
suddenly flash has an army.
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Flash Forward and Flash has an enormous army
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stream buffer into huge flash army. lol
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What is this?
Flash has a rather large army out of nowhere?!?!
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shuttle hidden expo at 11
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Flash scans and picks off another obs, moving forwards with a pretty sizable tank/goliath army, Shuttle backs off with his goon/lot army for now
but 3 or so Carriers come to join the party and shuttle now rushing in with his units after Flash unsieges for the moment
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if flash wins with this push then i dont know what to say
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Most goliaths taken out, but some surge forwards in an attempt to pick off a carrier
Flash loses most of his ground army
one carrier down but Flash has just 1 tank left and a few goliaths in his mobile army
Shuttle's 5th at 10.5 comes online
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
horrible carrier micro but still flash loses his entire army but so does shuttle.
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United States10328 Posts
well, at least flash held that... but traded ground armies and shuttle still has a number of carriers
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They trade armies but Shuttle slowly taking over the whole map
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ahh uhh its pretty much over now
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Flash forward to Flash having an armoy
Shuttle is pushing with his army
Golaiths are focusing down a carrier
The other is reinforced with 3 more
Second golaith is one hit away
Flash with only 2 tanks left at the fromt
Weakened carrier goes down
Shuttle expanding to 1 oclock now
9 facts for Flash
Now getting his ebay
Carriers are breaking the depot wall at the 8 oclock
Ebay gets killed off
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well flash traded armies but he's behind on bases... fresh bases
he has a long way to go to get back to even
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Flash adding ebay at his 3rd, Carriers come to attack - Flash has no defense, Flash countering with his army, obs spots it heading out
SCV sees Shuttle's 5th
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Flash might as well GG right now.
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flash giving up his third
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awesome battle, but the base counts say flash is utterly and completely fucked
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Carriers killing scvs at Flash's 3rd as Flash approaches Shuttle's megachoke
Shuttle rushing down with a fresh new army
Probably not enough goliaths to block for the tanks - Flash's army getting cut down and Flash concedes
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yer gg.
no vultures...thats what happens
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gg
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gg
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What the...?
This is incomprehensible.
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STX you better win tonight if Shuttle played like THAT.
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Flash calls GG, snipppeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddd
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Truly awful game from Flash. The most charitable thing you can say is that he probably wasn't expecting TvP with that performance.
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Flash engages Shuttle's goon army
Tanks are going down to foxus fire
GG from Flash
+ Show Spoiler +Shuttle, I dislike you soooooo ><
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Terrible game by Flash. Makes me depressed to see him play like that.
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United States10328 Posts
gg by flash. shuttle and best seem to be good against flash and have similar styles... hmm.
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Kickass.
Finally good to see a terran trying to take expansions while covering with just a few units getting punished and taken down
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AWWWW YEAAAAH.
Suck it Flash, Shuttle is so pro. <3 This makes me so happy yayayayayay.
At least if STX loses, Shuttle beat Flash AGAIN
REVENGE THAT!!
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flash why didn't you use vultures instead of tanks vs that style of protoss -- no way can they make that many obs pumping carriers like that
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so weird to see flash dominated like this
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flash lost like 7 tanks at the start due to no mine protection
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Man Flash got owned hard.
Why not just play aggressive, Flash?
fac-cc-fac or something.
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Oh well, time for non-Flash KT to step it up.
But that was a painful game to watch...
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When I saw flash expanding like that, I had the "this is not gonna turn out well"
hate to be right
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Turned on stream to see Flash vs. Shuttle followed by Carriers in the air. On one hand, woo Carriers! On the other hand, Carriers vs. Flash?
Pleasantly surprised. Protoss powa!
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Man, if STX loses even after taking down Flash, I will be so disappoint with them.
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On July 10 2011 14:26 Lightwip wrote:
Yay! Go not-KT!
Too early to celebrate. We still have our Ace Hoejja.
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On July 10 2011 14:26 Torenhire wrote:
AWWWW YEAAAAH.
Suck it Flash, Shuttle is so pro. <3 This makes me so happy yayayayayay.
At least if STX loses, Shuttle beat Flash AGAIN
REVENGE THAT!!
lol so if STX losses then you'd still be happy?
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On July 10 2011 14:26 ]343[ wrote:
gg by flash. shuttle and best seem to be good against flash and have similar styles... hmm.
I don't know what happened in the beginning but the recent Best style doesn't engage this early but rather expands even more aggressively
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Estonia4504 Posts
Poll: Would you recommend game 1?Yes (17) 57% No (11) 37% Check it out if you have time. (2) 7% 30 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
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Shuttle played smart and Flash played mediocre at best. I think he's probably just out of practice and didn't expect a PvT. But then again I suppose he could've ruled out TvZ on that map...
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We'll still probably lose, but w/e. Flash lost to shuttle :D
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Shuttle has great tvp...even before Flash's wrist problems, Shuttle always gave Flash a run for his money.
I think STX made a good prediction that KT would send in Flash first so that he can rest up and go into an ace match if need be.
Nice snipe.
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That midgame bust by Shuttle was excellent, perfectly timed. The more baffling thing is why is flash losing to midgame busts so much, lol.
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Flash losing no big. Why you ask?
We got hoejja.
We got chinjwa.
You getting roll'd STX.
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That was the worst I've seen Flash perform since... an awful long time. Quite sad to see a player of his caliber play like this. Here's to hoping he'll be able to make a full recovery!
Solid game by Shuttle, though. I'm feeling STX will take this.
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If that was a prepared vP build, my guess is that it aims to get a huge goliath/tank army that can push and kill the Protoss right as their carriers are starting to come out by skipping vultures and mines/speed. Shuttle just identified and exploited the weakness perfectly.
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Flash's TvP hasn't been looking too hot recently.
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On July 10 2011 14:27 Tenhou wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:26 Torenhire wrote:
AWWWW YEAAAAH.
Suck it Flash, Shuttle is so pro. <3 This makes me so happy yayayayayay.
At least if STX loses, Shuttle beat Flash AGAIN
REVENGE THAT!! lol so if STX losses then you'd still be happy?
I won't be happy if they lose, but Shuttle won so I'm happy about that. :p
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ITS OK KT FANS. BAND TOGETHER.
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Estonia4504 Posts
On July 10 2011 14:29 Winechu wrote:
Flash losing no big. Why you ask?
We got hoejja.
We got chinjwa.
You getting roll'd STX.
As said, good luck in Round 2, then.
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On July 10 2011 14:29 Masheyoon wrote:
That was the worst I've seen Flash perform since... an awful long time. Quite sad to see a player of his caliber play like this. Here's to hoping he'll be able to make a full recovery!
lol, if Flash had 2 of his unsiege tank siege then he wouldn't be in that position and it wouldn't be a "bad performance"
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On July 10 2011 14:29 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Flash's TvP hasn't been looking too hot recently.
Yeah..he usually always scans for carriers and makes such perfect timed pushes..:/
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Flash....=\
I'm sure this loss will enrage KT to the point where they will slay the rest of STX....or it can dishearten them to the point of am 0-4 defeat =\
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Flash needs to work hard on his TvP :/
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On July 10 2011 14:32 okum wrote:
Flash needs to work hard on his TvP :/
Flash needs to rest.
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On July 10 2011 14:32 okum wrote:
Flash needs to work hard on his TvP :/
Dunno if he should be working hard at all at the moment, considering his wrist problems. But that was indeed a terrible game.
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On July 10 2011 14:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
ITS OK KT FANS. BAND TOGETHER.
Aye aye sir!
THE CHINJWA HIMSELF KIM DAE YEOB IS THE TRUE ACE ANYWAYS
litte does it occur to STX, that barracks himself has consumed flash's skills.
True story
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I'm surprised they're still sending him out really...he should be fully resting..:/
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On July 10 2011 14:33 Iplaythings wrote:Aye aye sir! THE CHINJWA HIMSELF KIM DAE YEOB IS THE TRUE ACE ANYWAYS litte does it occur to STX, that barracks himself has consumed flash's skills. True story
I must say, barracks is playing super hot these days!
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On July 10 2011 14:35 aupstar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:33 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 14:30 Vasoline73 wrote:
ITS OK KT FANS. BAND TOGETHER. Aye aye sir! THE CHINJWA HIMSELF KIM DAE YEOB IS THE TRUE ACE ANYWAYS litte does it occur to STX, that barracks himself has consumed flash's skills. True story I must say, barracks is playing super hot these days!
Barracks and hoejja took their half of flash's mojo.
It is fate that KT shall be carried by Kang Min once again
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It just occured to me that flash was caught with 3 tanks unsieged, lol thats unlucky as hell, but bad scouting by him i guess
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REACH THE MANTOSS GIVING FLASH ADVICE ON HOW TO BE MANLY AND AWESOME LIKE HIM! :D
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I want to see Reach get played, and crush... anyone on STX
Kang Min! =D
It looks like...
Classic for STX
Action for KT
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On July 10 2011 14:37 Iplaythings wrote:
It just occured to me that flash was caught with 3 tanks unsieged, lol thats unlucky as hell, but bad scouting by him i guess
Would it make much of a difference vs that many goons? o.O
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ZvT, yay! 
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Reach: "Good job giving STX false confidence, they're screwd, real men play without their ace players"
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damn it
wanted to see stats vs classic
chin vs chin
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Classic has a might and a worthy chin, though it shalt forever be inferior to the power of the chintoss.
Chinran is too chobo
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On July 10 2011 14:39 Iplaythings wrote:
Classic has a might and a worthy chin, though it shalt forever be inferior to the power of the chintoss.
Chinran is too chobo
lol Chinran
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Action white zerg at 9
Classic teal terran at 6
Action's OL heading to 12 oclock
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Predicting 2h mutas from Action.
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On July 10 2011 14:39 Iplaythings wrote:
Classic has a might and a worthy chin, though it shalt forever be inferior to the Power of the chintoss.
Chinran is too chobo
I know the  Stats don't lie, but you can't argue with the  Classics either.
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On July 10 2011 14:40 VGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:39 Iplaythings wrote:
Classic has a might and a worthy chin, though it shalt forever be inferior to the Power of the chintoss.
Chinran is too chobo I know the Stats don't lie, but you can't argue with the Classics either.
y u tlpdize a sc2 player in my post
making me sad ! ;(
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Action taking his nat, 12 hatch?
Classic walling off with rax and depot
Pool and gas started
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Action is going 2 hatch muta most likely...
Classic is going almost definitely for 2 port wraith
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Drone is right outside of the wall off,
Classic's scv gets into Action's main and sees all
Lair is morphing
First fact on the way
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SCV roaming around sees Action start to morph his lair
Action's drone knows that Classic still hasn't expanded - he has a factory just complete
2 starports placed
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I'm getting flashbacks of fantasy vs. action when fantasy went wraiths as well
It was not pretty. Action please win!
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2 port. This will be interesting.
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Spire on the way, a sunken at the nat, and now a den too
clearly suspicious of mech
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Two hatch mutas
Two port wraiths
Both ports are up
Spire is coming in
Hydra den being added aswell
Action 19 supply Classic 22 supply
20-22
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Wraiths are out, Classic dancing them well, to take out the first Hydra
Second Hydra taking shots
Second Hydra goes DOWN
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Very nice wraith control from classic.
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First pair of wraiths are taking down a fair share of Hydra
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this chin, does however, have good wratih micro lol
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21-32
Wraiths are flying into the main now
One of the wraiths goes down, still 2 in the air
First pair of scourge out
Ebay and turrets are up
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Wraith range imba!
First wraith falls to Hydra, another 2 join
first scourge out
ebay done, Turrets being added
scourge come by, seeing the cloak research
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ovie speed done - a pair of scourge, mutas heading down
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Someone's been practicing his wraith control.
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Wraiths cloak - and the mutascourge have to back off as the ovie is elsewhere
rax now idle?
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CC also idle - all-in?
Classic isn't planning on expanding?
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2nd rax being added in Classic's main
Wraiths repaired, heading out again
academy being added
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2 wraiths attack an ovie in the north as other wraiths chased away from the south
3rd rax placed
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OL Speed is done
2nd rax is coming up
42-43 supply Action-Classic
Classic has a niec group of Wraiths
I think cloaking is done
Cloaking is done
Even supply
3rd rax coming up
Mutas trying to harass Classic's main
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action taking his third at bottom right
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Drone sent towards 4.5, seen by a wraith
Wraith coming into the main to try to get some locks off on the mutas, mutas get a few shots off as chasing but speed ovies still too slow for full pursuit
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not sure what classic's plan is. It looks like action would have to do something really stupid to lose now
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Action's second base kicked in. From now on, it'll be an uphill battle for Classic.
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Classic poking in with his wraiths,
Action's mutas push them out, +1 air cara is complete
He's also trying to setup a 3rd at 5 oclock
A wraith tried to go pew pew pew on it
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On July 10 2011 14:49 Vivi57 wrote:
not sure what classic's plan is. It looks like action would have to do something really stupid to lose now
sort as getting his third dropped and overlords sniped?
could happen
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Dunno, wraith+mnm could work to break mutas and try to attack the nat
but stream freezu
and now Action taking a 3rd at 4.
Mutas trying to micro against mnm/wraith in Classic's main
Action has a LOT of mutas
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avction gets mad and attacks classic's main,takes out a lot of turrets and scvs,but gets pushed back.
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We're back with stream =D
Mutas harassing Classic's back portion of the main
Marines and wraiths are in position
Mutalisks dive in trying to get a wraith, but Action loses one
53-67 supply
Ohh looks like lal the turrets went down in the main
Mutascourge pushing into the main
Mutas taking out scvs, but the wraiths are too much for the mutas
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Mutas attacking turrets at the main mineral line
cloaked wraiths and mnm trying to respond
Wraiths dealing a ton of damage as mnm stay mostly out of range
1 air carapace done
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horrible horrible attack from action
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What the fuck was that Action?
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My God when did Classic become such a Wraith bonjwa
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Classi'c swraith control is excellent
a pause to repair some wraiths but wraiths continue to take shots off at the shorter-ranged mutas
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Classic bringing SCVs to repairt his few wraiths that are left.
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Mutas picking off some marines - they're not doing much
Mnm now being sent forwards probably towards the nat
only 2 sunkens ready
scourge spot them on the way
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49-67 supply
Action what are you doing ><
Picks off a stray wraith, and the odd marine
But Classic's MnM group is moving out
A scourge spots the MnM moving out
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Mutas attacking the main mineral line as Classic's mnm move out - some mnm come back and wraiths attack
Drones heading out to the 3rd from the nat as mnm arrive - the mnm miss killing them!
sunken break easily
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rines moving out
gg should be soon
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On July 10 2011 14:51 RBorin wrote:
My God when did Classic become such a Wraith bonjwa
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Action's muta "micro"
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crazy game, i think action is scerwed
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what the fuck action.......
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Why the shit did Action decide it'd be a good idea to just ABANDON HIS BASE?
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Classic attacking the hatch and creep rather than killing drones in the main
taking more damage from mutas!
But holding for now
Action rebuilding his spire at his 3rd, lots of drones there, formerly from his nat
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Mutas push into the main
Take out the turrets
Drones all pulled to the 5 oclock expo
The two sunkens at the nat go down
Hydraden goes down,
Classic's wraiths are out of position for a few moments
Spire is going down, thats all thats left at the nat
Main is breached and Action is losing drones
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Man. I was under the impression that 2 port wraith fails if you don't do enough damage. Action... wtf
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That game was so dumb by Action. >_<
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Buffer into Action GGing T.T
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If I had a dollar for every time a KT player's strategy involved going for a base trade :/
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Why the **** would you attack action. Just play out your eco advantage get hive and playgu those wraiths. Why the **** would you do this.
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Some pretty awful decision making by Action.
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I can't believe what he just did...
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Baa?21243 Posts
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lol...3 more zergs coming?
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I had a feeling it would work since Action didn't tech or expand
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On July 10 2011 14:53 gngfn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:51 RBorin wrote:
My God when did Classic become such a Wraith bonjwa Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Action's muta "micro"
The stream is lagging a lot for me so from where I was standing, it looked like Classic was raping all the mutas with seriously insane Wraith control. I had no idea Action was just throwing Mutas at him.
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Action might be the worst midgame zerg who gets playtime nowadays. How the fuck do you just NOT make lurkers and go all in muta against a guy on one base with pure anti air units?
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Bah, I want to go to sleep. Just finish this quickly now, STX. Make it 4-0.
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Seriously WTF, action. *headdesk*
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I don't see how Action could have played that any more poorly.
Seriously, embarrassing and indefensible. There was literally like ten paths to victory from the midgame and one to defeat and he picks the one to defeat. Unbelievable.
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On July 10 2011 14:54 ZeaL. wrote:
Man. I was under the impression that 2 port wraith fails if you don't do enough damage. Action... wtf
Action had the advantage until he just decided to go for the suicide your mutas into abandon your base strategy.
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Man Action..how can you lose to a 1 base terran like that..
You were so far ahead!!! T_T
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On July 10 2011 14:54 ZeaL. wrote:
Man. I was under the impression that 2 port wraith fails if you don't do enough damage. Action... wtf
I always thought the zerg answer to 2port wraiths was get some muta and defend the wraiths then get lots of hydra and win.
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wtf
did action really lose that?
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On July 10 2011 14:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Action might be the worst midgame zerg who gets playtime nowadays.
...Juni?
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STX hwaiting! Though so far it looks more like kt losing than stx winning. :|
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On July 10 2011 14:55 Holgerius wrote:
Bah, I want to go to sleep. Just finish this quickly now, STX. Make it 4-0.
Win of your favorite team > sleep. What kind of fan are you? Shame on you
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Page 15 nicely sums up everyone's sentiments towards the game.
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On July 10 2011 14:55 VGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Action might be the worst midgame zerg who gets playtime nowadays. ...Juni?
juni dies before you reach midgame
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On July 10 2011 14:56 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:55 Holgerius wrote:
Bah, I want to go to sleep. Just finish this quickly now, STX. Make it 4-0. Win of your favorite team > sleep. What kind of fan are you? Shame on you
I think he's more of a Flash fan than KT fan. He saw Flash loses and now just wants to sleep.
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yeah this looks over... probably stx 4-1. im gonna go play hon. hope im wrong though...
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On July 10 2011 14:56 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:55 VGhost wrote:On July 10 2011 14:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Action might be the worst midgame zerg who gets playtime nowadays. ...Juni? juni dies before you reach midgame
Far before...
Oh God my eyes hurt from watching that game ><
Why no lurkers T.T
You go all in mutas against someone with ALL Anti Air units in their turtled up main
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In the midgame it was 3 base versus 1 and the Terran hadn't even started a CC. Oh and Zerg had a Lurker Den too and air superiority. At that point not throwing away Mutas for nothing and playing even halfway competently is basically all you need to do to win. Maybe instead of throwing away 5 or 6 Mutas against Marines in totally avoidable situations, he could have gotten some Lurkers? There was no way Terran was getting air superiority without a gift seeing as how it was 3 base 1. Hell, just purely massing Mutas and not throwing them away and holding the pushout would have been fine. Anything would have worked.
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On July 10 2011 14:56 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:55 Holgerius wrote:
Bah, I want to go to sleep. Just finish this quickly now, STX. Make it 4-0. Win of your favorite team > sleep. What kind of fan are you? Shame on you
I'm a very, very tired fan who has been out partying the entire night and hasn't gotten any sleep at all tonight.
And ya, Flash's loss made me really sad. That wasn't fun at all to watch.
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On July 10 2011 14:57 X10A wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:56 Doraemon wrote:On July 10 2011 14:55 VGhost wrote:On July 10 2011 14:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Action might be the worst midgame zerg who gets playtime nowadays. ...Juni? juni dies before you reach midgame Far before... Oh God my eyes hurt from watching that game >< Why no lurkers T.T You go all in mutas against someone with ALL Anti Air units in their turtled up main
I think we should all remember the game with Action vs Canata, he loves to all in after an advantage.
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On July 10 2011 14:58 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:56 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 14:55 Holgerius wrote:
Bah, I want to go to sleep. Just finish this quickly now, STX. Make it 4-0. Win of your favorite team > sleep. What kind of fan are you? Shame on you I'm a very, very tired fan who has been out partying the entire night and hasn't gotten any sleep at all tonight.
And you can't just go to sleep HOPING for your team to win? Poor excuse.
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On July 10 2011 14:58 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:56 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 14:55 Holgerius wrote:
Bah, I want to go to sleep. Just finish this quickly now, STX. Make it 4-0. Win of your favorite team > sleep. What kind of fan are you? Shame on you I'm a very, very tired fan who has been out partying the entire night and hasn't gotten any sleep at all tonight. And ya, Flash's loss made me really sad. That wasn't fun at all to watch.
If you're rooting for your team to lose just so you can sleep just sleep then and dream about how your team is going to make a comeback.
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The promo has GoRush singing but we can't hear it...
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On July 10 2011 14:58 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:56 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 14:55 Holgerius wrote:
Bah, I want to go to sleep. Just finish this quickly now, STX. Make it 4-0. Win of your favorite team > sleep. What kind of fan are you? Shame on you I'm a very, very tired fan who has been out partying the entire night and hasn't gotten any sleep at all tonight. And ya, Flash's loss made me really sad. That wasn't fun at all to watch.
this is...... the AFTER PARTY!!!!!
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I was yelling at my computer during that game. I just don't know how Action can continue as a progamer if he keeps this up...
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On July 10 2011 14:59 Tenhou wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:58 Holgerius wrote:On July 10 2011 14:56 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 14:55 Holgerius wrote:
Bah, I want to go to sleep. Just finish this quickly now, STX. Make it 4-0. Win of your favorite team > sleep. What kind of fan are you? Shame on you I'm a very, very tired fan who has been out partying the entire night and hasn't gotten any sleep at all tonight. And you can't just go to sleep HOPING for your team to win? Poor excuse.
Going to sleep while they're still playing is IMO showing even less support than staying up and rooting against them.
That didn't make any sense at all.
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Bah, sue me; I'm not being a good fan tonight. -__-
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Stats > Bogus
HoeJJa > Kal
Barracks > Clam
Roo or Tempest < ???
FLASH > ANYONE
I BELIEVE
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On July 10 2011 15:03 Holgerius wrote:
Bah, sue me; I'm not being a good fan tonight. -__-
Can't say I blame you considering the games we just witnessed
But it can only get better now. Cheer up!
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Crazy_Hydra's got this. -_-;
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Modesty for STX
vs Z
CH
CH teal zerg at 12
Modesty blue zerg at 6
Color change pisses me off
CH is yellow
Modesty is red
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BELIEVE KT. WE ARE FAKING STX OUT!
CRAZYHYDRA GOING TO TURN THE TIDEEEE
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Both players going with an over build
CH taking his gas faster, then pool
Modesty with pool first then gas
12 pool?
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12p for both players
EDIT: I probably miss-saw CH's build -__-
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Modesty is expanding to his nat
CH is not, both players with pools up
CH morphing lair earlier by quite a few seconds
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No lings out for either player yet
CH is making a hidden hatchery in his main o.o
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KT FIGHTING! KEEP LR'ing GUYS! I'm ON MY PHONE
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CH made a couple of pairs of lings
Modesty put down a sunken at his nat
Is that a hidden hatch from CH?
Spire is up for CH a few seconds sooner than Modesty
Modesty has a second gas though
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A single pair of scourge and 3 mutas from CH
A single pair of scourge pop so far for Modesty
Quite a bit of buffer
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Big buffer into zoom in of Modesty's face.
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Gosh man, this stream is almost unwatchable. Missed the most critical part..BAH
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Another buffer into Modesty raping drones in CH's main and CH gg.
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Buffer into CH only having a single muta left o.o
His lings are moving out, scourge are chasing his last two mutas away
He's trying to get an evo up
Only one muta left
GG
..... ><
Yellow why did you have to leave D=
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I go down for breakfast and CH gg's
Its okay guys!
CHILL THE FUCK OUT WE STILL HAVE THIS!
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Constant stream freeze into KT losing is not a lotta fun. :-/
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On July 10 2011 15:13 Doraemon wrote:
GG
4-0 whitewash coming?
Nah. KT is just making things interesting.
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KT must get at least one win. As an SKT fan, I will be upset if our arch-rivals get 4-0d by STX Soul.
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Hoejja, Barracks, Reach winning twice have this. I believe
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On July 10 2011 15:14 X10A wrote:
Hoejja, Barracks, Reach winning twice have this. I believe
Tempest instead of Reach.
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Calm likely next, on New Bloody Ridge? Expecting Stats?
Hrm.
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Tall order for KT to get 3 straight wins from Stats/Hoejja/Barracks at this point. White wash?
Painful to watch.
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YEAH KT EPIC COMEBACK INCOMING. WE GOT THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM!
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KT are so fucked for today.
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On July 10 2011 15:15 Vasoline73 wrote:
YEAH KT EPIC COMEBACK INCOMING. WE GOT THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM!
I love your enthusiasm lol
+ Show Spoiler +And your total irregard of reality
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On July 10 2011 15:15 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:14 X10A wrote:
Hoejja, Barracks, Reach winning twice have this. I believe Tempest instead of Reach.
Fuck that. KT needs some manliness and fast.
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On July 10 2011 15:17 mustaju wrote:
Sorry for not updating the thread, had internet problems.
It's ok mustaju
Though you just missed KT being totally owned by their own fail
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stats is next for sure, which means they'll probably send calm instead of kal... hmm
4-0 stx today seems likely.
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On July 10 2011 15:18 Kanil wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:15 J1.au wrote:On July 10 2011 15:14 X10A wrote:
Hoejja, Barracks, Reach winning twice have this. I believe Tempest instead of Reach. Fuck that. KT needs some manliness and fast.
Went to go get food before I saw the reply
This guy took my words
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On July 10 2011 15:17 Winechu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:15 Vasoline73 wrote:
YEAH KT EPIC COMEBACK INCOMING. WE GOT THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM! I love your enthusiasm lol + Show Spoiler +And your total irregard of reality
I do not approve of your faith, or lack of it.
WE MUST BELIVE
KT FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGGGG
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On July 10 2011 15:17 Winechu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:15 Vasoline73 wrote:
YEAH KT EPIC COMEBACK INCOMING. WE GOT THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM! I love your enthusiasm lol + Show Spoiler +And your total irregard of reality
Lol. I woul probably be face palming hard if I was actually at home watching the games . The least KT should do is go 4-2...
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hyvaa is going to hydra smash Stats next watch.
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The true chin emerges
Block all exists, bind you to the chairs cus this will be an ecstasy of adrenaline and hormons like never before
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stats vs hyvaa.
stats fighting!!!!
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Hyvaa should be able to take this.
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Stats red toss at 7
Hyvaa brown zerg at 1
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The STX coach has gotten only the best possible MU-s except for Classic this game. Wow.
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cmon hyvaa. you beat bisu, you can beat this toss!
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Stats went Nexus before Forge
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8th time's the charm.
Well he has to win a vZ some time...right? Right?
Oh greedy stats, nexus before forge FE
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Stats about to roll Hyvaa so hard that STX will forfeit with a 3 game advantage.
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Are we going to see a non SKTvKT finals?
I think we are! This is awesome. Thank you STX, thank you.
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On July 10 2011 15:29 Vasoline73 wrote:
Stats about to roll Hyvaa so hard that STX will forfeit with a 3 game advantage.
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Hyvaa taking his nat
Stats being greedy and nexus before forge is in
I think Hyvaa lent pool first
Lings are rushing down towards the Chintoss
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On July 10 2011 15:29 PunitiveDamages wrote:
Are we going to see a non SKTvKT finals?
I think we are! This is awesome. Thank you STX, thank you.
Scared of KT?
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ling runby ? No youre not, hyvaa
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Two probes beat lings apparently
The gate is in position now
Hyvaa taking a 3rd at 2 oclock
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On July 10 2011 15:30 Tenhou wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:29 PunitiveDamages wrote:
Are we going to see a non SKTvKT finals?
I think we are! This is awesome. Thank you STX, thank you. Scared of KT?
bored of raping them.
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Hydra den is up
Lair is morphing
Core, citadel and stargate are up
First sair is out and about
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On July 10 2011 15:31 chisuri wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:30 Tenhou wrote:On July 10 2011 15:29 PunitiveDamages wrote:
Are we going to see a non SKTvKT finals?
I think we are! This is awesome. Thank you STX, thank you. Scared of KT? bored of raping them.
Just like last year.
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kal and calm vs scrubs after this, too... never a good night for KT when flash loses the opener
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Hydraling pushing the cannons!
Zealots are outside of the wall in
First DT is out; archives is up
OL is hanging above the Hydraling force
5 cannons total warping in
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lol dt kills 2 drones got and away
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On July 10 2011 15:31 chisuri wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:30 Tenhou wrote:On July 10 2011 15:29 PunitiveDamages wrote:
Are we going to see a non SKTvKT finals?
I think we are! This is awesome. Thank you STX, thank you. Scared of KT? bored of raping them.
Yeah, like last year.
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Muta coming out for Hyvaa, ht snipes?
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Muta doing big ass damage to the probe line at the natural of Stats.
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First HT is out
A DT is out of the contain, and is moving into the 3rd, Two drones, and it survives
5 hatcherys total for Hyvaa
Stats lost his gateway at the front
He has 4 total now
Mutas out for Hyvaa
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Stats' storms killed less mutas than corsairs.
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Stats on 6 gateway massing dragoon. Hyvaa's queen's nest is almost done.
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lol storming his own sairs and probes
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On July 10 2011 15:33 integral wrote:
kal and calm vs scrubs after this, too... never a good night for KT when flash loses the opener
Roo will roll Kal and ForGG/Violet/Lux will take out Calm. OH WAIT
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Stats moving out to get a 3rd with his army, Muta goes to harass the natural, worst blind storm of all time hitting nothing.
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Storms killed more sairs and probes than mutas
Core is spinning
Queens nest is morphing in
Stats is massing up goons
Mutas fly into the back on the main mineral line, and pick off a few probes
3 HT sitting in the middle of goons and cannons at the nat
Queens nest is up
Mutas poking away at the assimilator
Stats blocks his goons in
That hero DT has 4 kills and is still alive
Hive is morphing
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Stats moving out his army going for a push, still hasn't gotten a 3rd yet. nah just a storm drop killing drones at the natural.
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Wow Hyvaa, IDLE LARVAS AT HIS 3rd.
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Oh god so much larva waiting for Hyvaa!
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Hive's done
tough times ahead
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Single archon headed up towards 10.5 taken out by hydraling
defiler mound done
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Robotics, and obs are up
Mutas doing lots of damage to the probes mining at the nat line
Shuttle loaded up with HT
Stats trying to claim a 3rd at 9 oclock, gets denied by lings
Speedlots get in and take them out
That Hero DT is droppped into the main
HT are dropped and have 6 and 11 kills each
All drones
+1 is complete for Stats' ground forces
LurkerHydraLing is massing
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Lone archon moving to top left to get rape by lings and hydra but gave Stats info on some of Hyvaa's troops. Hyvaa pushing to stats' 3rd as stats pushing into the lurker fields of hyvaa......
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Stats attacking the empty lurker field on the NE ridge, it falls easily
Hydraling bunching up on the ramp to stats' 3rd
does Hyvaa not know how to send units up a ramp?
but the traffic jam clears up and a few lurkers join
Stats makes that face as his 3rd falls
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scourge find find the probe/pylon at 6 and lings end it
1 templar 3 zealot drop in hyvaa's main
storm only catches 3 drones?
cracklings clean up the attack
wow hyvaa morphing 4 more lurkers at what was stats' 3rd
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I wouldn't have expected such a defeat for KT
When is the 3rd day played ?
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Now stats breaks up the ramp, lurkers cancelled
STX coach leaning eagerly forwards
2 templar given away by stats' army to lings
now lurkerling attacking, here comes the defiler!
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This looks over for stats. WP STX!
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lol defiler consumes a scourge
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a plague on some of stats' army
there's only a few lurkers left on the W ridge though
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LOL Stats is massing storms
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Stat's 3rd is under attack from Hydraling
Goons are trying to clear out Lurkers
Only two cannons at the 3rd
Everything is going down
Reach would've won with storms, feedback and malestrom
Defilers are out now
Stats trying to setup a new 3rd at 6 oclock
Stats has a HT , and storms 3 probes at the main mineral line
He's trying to break up to the 9 oclock position where his 3rd was, doe s so and gets Hyvaa's forces there
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On July 10 2011 15:42 BisuDagger wrote:
This looks over for stats. WP STX!
I'm sorry what? Hyvaa doesn't have a 4th.
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another 2 rallied templar there to be picked off - but lings attack the 2 zealots nearby instead
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Stats' 3rd back online
Drone waiting at 4.5 to take a 4th
another templar dropped in hyvaa's main, storms a bunch of hydra that find it
hyvaa going to fall apart?
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random aside:
Stats' ID always makes me think of this
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A HT or two gets picked off, by lings popping in
Lurkers are being cleared out
Hyvaa has playguued Stats' goons
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Hyvaa still only have gas drones at his natural o.O
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hive tech is really strong - but with just 3 bases and so few drones...
Stats now moving into hyvaa's 3rd without meeting much resistance
well new lings spawn
archon killing drones (templar doesn't storm them?)
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swarm/lurker attack towards stats' 3rd - stats has zealots and templar holding the ramp and storm everything coming in
now zealots respond, and more storm
yeah hyvaa's letting this slip from his grasp
but lings get into stats' 3rd!
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Stats has his 3rd back up and running!
More storm drops by Stats
Lings trying to get into the 3rd get caught up by an archon
Hyvaa looks like hes going to get a 4th at 5 oclock
HT dropped in the main, doesn't get to the mineral line, instead gets 4 hydras with a storm
Stats is pushing towards the 3rd of Hyvva
12 kill DT
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zealots responding but there's a lurker there
storm finishes off the lurker
hyvaa has so few drones
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NO STX. GO HOME. STATS KILL THIS GUY!
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victorious dt struts out after it clears all those drones
hyvaa still trying to attack towards stats' 3rd
stats valiantly holding with just a few units and storms
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but here come another round of units, more storms
dt now coming to help
probes flee, just temporarily
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Stats killing too many of his own units -_-
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Stats is in the 3rd of Hyvva
Lots of lings are popping out though!
No storm on the drones fleeing
Lurkerling trying to push up Stats' 3rd
Swarm is pushing up the 3rd, while Stats is losing alot to the lurkers
Looks like, Stats holds his 3rd, but all the probes are not mining
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lol mass lings against mass templars.
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hyvaa bringing more and more lings to attack towards 9
dt/zealot finish them off
and even more come
more lings stormed
sheesh
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Man, I'm getting nerdchills.
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On July 10 2011 15:46 X10A wrote:
Stats is in the 3rd of Hyvva
Lots of lings are popping out though!
No storm on the drones fleeing
Lurkerling trying to push up Stats' 3rd
Swarm is pushing up the 3rd, while Stats is losing alot to the lurkers
Looks like, Stats holds his 3rd, but all the probes are not mining
Most of the probes was transferred back to the natural I thought o.O
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Someone click on that DT.
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another round of lings die at the ramp to stats' 3rd
hyvaa morphs 2 lurkers right by stats' army - stats can take them down
hyvaa finally taking a 4th at 4.5 as his main, nat, and 3rd are quickly depleting
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Huge storms on the forces attacking the 3rd
Hyvaa has lots of lings pushing into the 3rd
One scourge trying to get the obs
So many lings
Archons are being heros with +2 complete
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Stats should morph archons, 6 ht roaming on the map isn't good :/
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stats now has a terrible dilemna - attack that 4th or hold his 3rd?
2 zealot 1 archon and a whole slew of templar (6) is stats mobile army heading towards 4.5
3 lurkers burrow to defend and another comes
now cracklings come from the back
plague on 5 zealots there
mass storms try to hold, all zealots down by stats fleeing with his 2 archons 5 templar
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Hyvaa STILL doesn't have overlord speed?!
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Stats playing fucking good. But I'm also drinking. PLZ WIN.
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Stats army composition: Storms are the only units I need.
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66 supply-47
Stats to Hyvaa
Hyvaa last lots of gas,
All 3 of his bases are getting mined out quickly
Lots of lings still trying to get into the 3rd
91-64
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another ling attack on stats' 3rd, stopped by storms/zealots on the ramp
but the next ling attack gets through
now stats is in deep trouble unless he can save his 3rd
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but he does save his 3rd
haha stats using a swarm against hydra outside hyvaa's 3rd
just take down that 4th
stats still killing units with storm
but hyvaa can afford so many rounds of cracklings
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves, Vasoline. STX will 4-0 tonight.
... you guys can finish the job on Monday.
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stats just with his 3rd mining now, building a lot of templar
1 dt heads to hyvaa's 4th but there's ovies/lings there
hyvaa adding creeps to his 4th
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hyvaa might take this after all despite how he played
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Lots of lurkers are the 4th, lings coming in from behind
Templar are just all there
Tons of storms saving the army though
Hyvaa still trying to push up the ramp, holds with his playguued zealots
Lings finally get into the 3rd
Taking outs lots of probes
Zealots move in , and save the nexus from going down!
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One storm drop on the 4th would seal the deal..
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Hyvaa fortifying his 4th, Stats seems to hold his 3rd for now, but has no army to pressure or secure a forth :/
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Supply is evening out 53-53
Stats is mined out of his main and nat!
Stats trying to get a DT into the 5 oclock, 30 kills on it!
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Wonder if Stats can try to take a 4th somewhere?
too risky probably
small ling mass surrounds 3 templar, stacked storms cause them to back off
lurkerling heading out, swarm, palgue on the ramp
yeah hyvaa can probably breka though
one lurker donated to cannons outside the nat
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No? archon on the ramp to stats' 3rd holds!
Hyvaa should just expand somewhere else and really power econ, Stats can't afford to move from his 3rd
wow does that dt have like 32 kills?
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lol this game is so good. hyvaa should just camp and denie expos instead os suiciding all his army
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Stats holds again ! sick defense !
Many many drones at hyvaa's forth, if only he could do a successful storm drop there ....
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Stats' 3rd starting to deplete
yeah, despite his valiant efforts I don't think he can take it
another plague on some zealots
zealots chasing a bunch of defilers away
Stats can finally afford a cannon at his 3rd
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STATS AHEAD IN SUPPLY PLEASE DO IT
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Hyvaa mined out at all but the 4 oclock
Lots of larvae not being used
Lings massing up outside of the 3rd again
Get a surround on some HT, two storms thrown down, HT saved, no loses
Lurkerling force trying to surround Stat's archons and HT
Archons are being champs and forcing Hyvaa back
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holy balls, STARCRAFT
edge of my seat
^^
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guardians would honestly rape shit right now
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desperately needs a storm drop on 4
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hyvaa's units keep an eye on 10.5
morphing more lurkers
but Stats dropping a pylon at 6
I hope he can take/keep that expo!
stats units move to the NE ridge but retreat as lurkers burrow
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Stats going to mine out soon. So is hyvaa but he can always expand somewhere and defend with swarm...
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On July 10 2011 15:54 Looms wrote:
1 hp archon? :o
Nothing surprising, that happens everytime an archon gets plagued unless you meant 1 shield archon ?
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Stats is like the worst player to ever be considered good by people on this website. Hyvaa has always had trouble finishing off an opponent after the early midgame but if Stats uses a storm and it hits anything then it's almost guaranteed to be one of his own units. It's maddening.
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Ovie sees Stats place a nex at 6
finally Hyvaa expands at 12
lurkerling/defiler massing up near 6!
Stats' tiny army is nearby
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LOL both of them is going to continue this game by getting a 4th and a 5th.
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Storms on the Lurkers
Oh wow, 30 kill archon, 30 kill DT
Theres even a shield battery setup
Stats is ahead in supply 70-65
Hyvaa is playguuing Stat's forces
Lings get a surround on a morphing archon
Some DA's for Feedback would be nice
The 8 oclock expo is almost mined out for Stats
75-71
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Plague on another 6 zealots
Storms being thrown on units under swarm
but more units come to reinforce
4 more templar rallied though
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On July 10 2011 15:55 pissingwildly wrote:
Stats is like the worst player to ever be considered good by people on this website. Hyvaa has always had trouble finishing off an opponent after the early midgame but if Stats uses a storm and it hits anything then it's almost guaranteed to be one of his own units. It's maddening.
often you have to storm your own units to hit zerglings *shrug*
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Lings trying to break up the ramp
both cannons taken down
Storm stops the attack for now but Stats' army hanging out west of the ramp
another archon down - stats has almost nothing to hold his new base as more lings come
probes transfer...this is probably it
just 2 archons
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Terrible day for all KT players. They better show up better prepared Day 3.
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On July 10 2011 15:55 pissingwildly wrote:
Stats is like the worst player to ever be considered good by people on this website. Hyvaa has always had trouble finishing off an opponent after the early midgame but if Stats uses a storm and it hits anything then it's almost guaranteed to be one of his own units. It's maddening.
Stats and Tempest is all KT got
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more and more lings come
2 archons clear the current crop of lings but how long can they hold out?
swarm placed, archons step outside
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both archons down, stats concedes
stx 4-0
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stats gg's
epic game
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Unbelievable that Stats can't keep track of his units even when he has 10 of them.
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The bisu slayer claims the chin to his collection of scalps
KT WILL BE BACK ON DAY 3!!!
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this match going to day 3
hyvaa raises his arms in celebration
This is ZvP
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Stats has a nexus setup at 6 oclock, Lurkerling are trying to press up the ramp
Lings are harassing the probes
ANd lots and lots of lings are pushing into the 6 oclock
Swarm goes down over the Probe line
GG by Stats
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+ Show Spoiler +STX >< I ************* hate you
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That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss..
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On July 10 2011 15:42 Tenhou wrote:I'm sorry what? Hyvaa doesn't have a 4th.
xD! Don't doubt me.
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GG !
Stats had no chance to make it, but props for staying alive that long. If only he could have spared a shuttle and a ht to storm drop hyvaa's forth !
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finally a gg
horrible game
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On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss..
That game clearly shows why i hate Lategame PvZ, even if low econ as that game
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i just got home, how the fuck did a 4-0 take 3 hours?
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Great series, STX finally gathering themselfs to form and shows who the ugly shirts are! Hoping a bit more from next series from KT part.
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incredibly disappointing performance from kt
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GOOD FIGHT STATS. KT WILL AVENGE ITS SELF.
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On July 10 2011 15:59 J1.au wrote:
Stats fought to the end.
Yeah he went down with honor!
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On July 10 2011 15:59 GTR wrote:
i just got home, how the fuck did a 4-0 take 3 hours?
2 hours.
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On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss..
What? Blame stats for having bad storm usage and not defending his 3rd well until he realized that he really needs a 3rd.
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STX came prepared and handed kt's asses to them
Well played STX
I hope for a good series for day 3.
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On July 10 2011 15:55 pissingwildly wrote:
Stats is like the worst player to ever be considered good by people on this website. Hyvaa has always had trouble finishing off an opponent after the early midgame but if Stats uses a storm and it hits anything then it's almost guaranteed to be one of his own units. It's maddening.
gl storming lings without storming your own units
id like to see your try, show some fucking respect for the players who put up an incredible game from both sides.
If you guys didnt see good play from both players I dont know what game you were watching or wether youre just blind, cus you had to be to think like the guy i quoted.
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Whoohoo!! Great job STX. Now bring it home on day3!
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Ahhhh. 4-0 but the last game was so tense! Me like. It would be boring without day 3, and KT has the mind game advantage .
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On July 10 2011 15:59 GTR wrote:
i just got home, how the fuck did a 4-0 take 3 hours? 2 hours. KT vs STX started at 14:00 KST.
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On July 10 2011 15:59 GTR wrote:
i just got home, how the fuck did a 4-0 take 3 hours?
The game started 1 hour later than usual.
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stats gg.great game even though he lost. he play well. KT lost and I'm sad...but we still have day 3.
congrats STX. Thanks fold for the stream.
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On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss..
Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_-
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YEAH Hyvaa! Estro represent!
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On July 09 2011 15:57 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Screw you STX. You decide to stop sucking when Oz's playoff hopes are on the line and then go back to sucking once you make the playoffs. :/
Oz vs KT would've been so much more exciting.
On July 09 2011 21:26 Lucumo wrote:
I also think that OZ vs KT would have been more exciting.
On July 10 2011 06:12 Ryusei-R1 wrote:You're the delusional one. Oz would've done a much better job than STX
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On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_-
Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever.
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On July 10 2011 16:00 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:55 pissingwildly wrote:
Stats is like the worst player to ever be considered good by people on this website. Hyvaa has always had trouble finishing off an opponent after the early midgame but if Stats uses a storm and it hits anything then it's almost guaranteed to be one of his own units. It's maddening. gl storming lings without storming your own units id like to see your try, show some fucking respect for the players who put up an incredible game from both sides. If you guys didnt see good play from both players I dont know what game you were watching or wether youre just blind, cus you had to be to think like the guy i quoted.
Because people needs to be blind to see a different view from yours.
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On July 10 2011 16:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 15:57 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Screw you STX. You decide to stop sucking when Oz's playoff hopes are on the line and then go back to sucking once you make the playoffs. :/
Oz vs KT would've been so much more exciting. Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 21:26 Lucumo wrote:
I also think that OZ vs KT would have been more exciting. Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 06:12 Ryusei-R1 wrote:You're the delusional one. Oz would've done a much better job than STX ^_____________________________^
LMAO, bask in your glory, u earned it!
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I blame Action if the game was really as bad as people say it was...
Anyways, KT has never been consistent but I really hope they can do better in the 3rd match. Most people know they are an extreme dog to win the whole thing, but we can have hope KT fans.
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i think when flash loses all of the KT players go "oh shit" and the pressure doubles
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On July 10 2011 16:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 15:57 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Screw you STX. You decide to stop sucking when Oz's playoff hopes are on the line and then go back to sucking once you make the playoffs. :/
Oz vs KT would've been so much more exciting. Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 21:26 Lucumo wrote:
I also think that OZ vs KT would have been more exciting. Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 06:12 Ryusei-R1 wrote:You're the delusional one. Oz would've done a much better job than STX ^_____________________________^
Only quoting half the statement is lame :/
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On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever.
HTs can storm their way up there though
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On July 10 2011 16:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 15:57 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Screw you STX. You decide to stop sucking when Oz's playoff hopes are on the line and then go back to sucking once you make the playoffs. :/
Oz vs KT would've been so much more exciting. Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 21:26 Lucumo wrote:
I also think that OZ vs KT would have been more exciting. Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 06:12 Ryusei-R1 wrote:You're the delusional one. Oz would've done a much better job than STX ^_____________________________^
Are you saving quotes for situations like this? Lmao CSheep is having his fun
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On July 10 2011 16:04 Vasoline73 wrote:
I blame Action if the game was really as bad as people say it was...
Anyways, KT has never been consistent but I really hope they can do better in the 3rd match. Most people know they are an extreme dog to win the whole thing, but we can have hope KT fans.
It was. In fact, probably more so than what you expected of it. Just read page 15 lol.
Mindblowing fail.
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On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though
lurker defiler can get their way up there too
Whats your point?
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Even if we lose the series, I'm happy STX showed their strong side today. Who would have guessed we would defeat KT's main team 4-0 without using Bogus, Kal or Calm?
GL on monday, KT. I wish you well, and may the better team move on to challenge the evil despots of this land.
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On July 10 2011 16:04 Vasoline73 wrote:
I blame Action if the game was really as bad as people say it was...
It was, and yes, it really falls on him.
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On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point?
Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers.
My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well.
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On July 10 2011 16:08 mustaju wrote:
Even if we lose the series, I'm happy STX showed their strong side today. Who would have guessed we would defeat KT's main team 4-0 without using Bogus, Kal or Calm?
GL on monday, KT. I wish you well, and may the better team move on to challenge the evil despots of this land.
Yeah agreed. Better team needs to advance and I am rooting against CJ and SKT until the end.
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dammit, horrible performance from KT. carriers are just so unstoppable in pvt these days o_o
+ Show Spoiler +woongjin won though so yeah :D
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On July 10 2011 16:09 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:04 Vasoline73 wrote:
I blame Action if the game was really as bad as people say it was...
It was, and yes, it really falls on him.
If he just didn't do.....whatever that was, KT could've had the chance to send out the lefthanded bonjwa.
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On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well.
Are you actually serious or just trolling?
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On July 10 2011 16:13 Ecrilon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well. Are you actually serious or just trolling?
Are you referring to the first or second part? Either way, I'm being serious.
Or do you really think Zergs have better means to defend a ramp? Put 2 Archons and some HTs there, or DTs when there is no Overlord there. GG. When the Zerg is sitting there with Lurkers, Defilers, whatever, you can storm your way up there without sacrificing any units.
And it's not like Stats played well. Storms weren't good, sacrificed his units unnecessarily(his 32 kill DT for example, ran him into overlord+lurker), failed to kill the drones at Zergs third base.
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On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well.
I feel sorry towards stats but my arguement was that both races have something for getting up there.
And I'd argue lurker / sunken / ling / defiler at ramp being way more robust than zealot / archon / ht / cannon
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How can anyone say protoss can defend better than zerg O_O. Defilers + lurks + sunks + cracklings? Hyvaa obviously very talented v P and Stats lost fair and square but uhhhhhhh...
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On July 10 2011 16:22 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well. I feel sorry towards stats but my arguement was that both races have something for getting up there. And I'd argue lurker / sunken / ling / defiler at ramp being way more robust than zealot / archon / ht / cannon
You would need a pylon/creep there though. But regarding static defense, sunkens are certainly better than cannons considering that swarm pretty much negates them. Sunkens would prove useful when you finally march up the ramp.
On July 10 2011 16:32 Vasoline73 wrote:
How can anyone say protoss can defend better than zerg O_O. Defilers + lurks + sunks + cracklings? Hyvaa obviously very talented v P and Stats lost fair and square but uhhhhhhh...
Cracklings don't matter, lol. Archons > Cracklings. Also, on the other side of the ramp isn't unlimited space and when the density of units is too high, then storms would be even more devastating.
And the one who is defending has less units there by the way. Otherwise a defense would be useless, right?
(Not that it matters, more Zerg units means more Zerg units that die to storms.)
And despite Protoss having better options to defend, I think it's fine for both races. So no need to feel sorry for either race which was the initial point of the discussion.
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On July 10 2011 16:39 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:22 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well. I feel sorry towards stats but my arguement was that both races have something for getting up there. And I'd argue lurker / sunken / ling / defiler at ramp being way more robust than zealot / archon / ht / cannon You would need a pylon/creep there though. But regarding static defense, sunkens are certainly better than cannons considering that swarm pretty much negates them. Sunkens would prove useful when you finally march up the ramp. Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:32 Vasoline73 wrote:
How can anyone say protoss can defend better than zerg O_O. Defilers + lurks + sunks + cracklings? Hyvaa obviously very talented v P and Stats lost fair and square but uhhhhhhh... Cracklings don't matter, lol. Archons > Cracklings. Also, on the other side of the ramp isn't unlimited space and when the density of units is too high, then storms would be even more devastating. And the one who is defending has less units there by the way. Otherwise a defense would be useless, right? (Not that it matters, more Zerg units means more Zerg units that die to storms.) And despite Protoss having better options to defend, I think it's fine for both races. So no need to feel sorry for either race which was the initial point of the discussion.
You forgot one thing, you need detection to kill the Lurkers and Protoss has 1 detection that is quite easy to kill. And Archons are very gas extensive, hell they consume more gas than Ultras. So no, in real situation Zergs have better chance to defend AND go up a ramp than Protoss. And the statement about felling sorry for Protoss is not invalid even if Protoss can defend and force up a ramp better than Zerg. SC doesn't involve 1 dimension only (and even in this 1 dimension, there are more ways to bust a ramp rather than Lurkers and HTs only, how about Muta, Guardian, Ultra?), there are a lot of them. You don't need to go up a ramp if you have 99999 Ultras and Lings to bust your enemy's front.
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What a glorious return against the evil empire.
Go STX, just one more time!
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On July 10 2011 16:58 chisuri wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:39 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:22 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well. I feel sorry towards stats but my arguement was that both races have something for getting up there. And I'd argue lurker / sunken / ling / defiler at ramp being way more robust than zealot / archon / ht / cannon You would need a pylon/creep there though. But regarding static defense, sunkens are certainly better than cannons considering that swarm pretty much negates them. Sunkens would prove useful when you finally march up the ramp. On July 10 2011 16:32 Vasoline73 wrote:
How can anyone say protoss can defend better than zerg O_O. Defilers + lurks + sunks + cracklings? Hyvaa obviously very talented v P and Stats lost fair and square but uhhhhhhh... Cracklings don't matter, lol. Archons > Cracklings. Also, on the other side of the ramp isn't unlimited space and when the density of units is too high, then storms would be even more devastating. And the one who is defending has less units there by the way. Otherwise a defense would be useless, right? (Not that it matters, more Zerg units means more Zerg units that die to storms.) And despite Protoss having better options to defend, I think it's fine for both races. So no need to feel sorry for either race which was the initial point of the discussion. You forgot one thing, you need detection to kill the Lurkers and Protoss has 1 detection that is quite easy to kill. And Archons are very gas extensive, hell they consume more gas than Ultras. So no, in real situation Zergs have better chance to defend AND go up a ramp than Protoss. And the statement about felling sorry for Protoss is not invalid even if Protoss can defend and force up a ramp better than Zerg. SC doesn't involve 1 dimension only (and even in this 1 dimension, there are more ways to bust a ramp rather than Lurkers and HTs only, how about Muta, Guardian, Ultra?), there are a lot of them. You don't need to go up a ramp if you have 99999 Ultras and Lings to bust your enemy's front.
I like how the guy that started this say THAT GAME and now all those Zerg units and "Situation" are being brought up.
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On July 10 2011 16:32 Vasoline73 wrote:
How can anyone say protoss can defend better than zerg O_O. Defilers + lurks + sunks + cracklings? Hyvaa obviously very talented v P and Stats lost fair and square but uhhhhhhh...
well idk reavers + high templar is super scary to engage ever let alone if the protoss is being the one on the defense. ^^
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Wow, Flash's vP rate falls below 70% :D (It is obviously still the highest and craziest stats he has)
Hope KT advance.
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On July 10 2011 16:58 chisuri wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:39 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:22 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well. I feel sorry towards stats but my arguement was that both races have something for getting up there. And I'd argue lurker / sunken / ling / defiler at ramp being way more robust than zealot / archon / ht / cannon You would need a pylon/creep there though. But regarding static defense, sunkens are certainly better than cannons considering that swarm pretty much negates them. Sunkens would prove useful when you finally march up the ramp. On July 10 2011 16:32 Vasoline73 wrote:
How can anyone say protoss can defend better than zerg O_O. Defilers + lurks + sunks + cracklings? Hyvaa obviously very talented v P and Stats lost fair and square but uhhhhhhh... Cracklings don't matter, lol. Archons > Cracklings. Also, on the other side of the ramp isn't unlimited space and when the density of units is too high, then storms would be even more devastating. And the one who is defending has less units there by the way. Otherwise a defense would be useless, right? (Not that it matters, more Zerg units means more Zerg units that die to storms.) And despite Protoss having better options to defend, I think it's fine for both races. So no need to feel sorry for either race which was the initial point of the discussion. You forgot one thing, you need detection to kill the Lurkers and Protoss has 1 detection that is quite easy to kill. And Archons are very gas extensive, hell they consume more gas than Ultras. So no, in real situation Zergs have better chance to defend AND go up a ramp than Protoss. And the statement about felling sorry for Protoss is not invalid even if Protoss can defend and force up a ramp better than Zerg. SC doesn't involve 1 dimension only (and even in this 1 dimension, there are more ways to bust a ramp rather than Lurkers and HTs only, how about Muta, Guardian, Ultra?), there are a lot of them. You don't need to go up a ramp if you have 99999 Ultras and Lings to bust your enemy's front.
You see where the lurker spines are coming from though. Normally, you don't fly your observer right in the enemy territory and you always have dragoons to kill the scourges. Hydras don't matter in this scenario and Mutas...depends, high risk - high reward? Well, most of the time you have 2-3 observers, so the risk is even higher. You don't need _that_ many Archons though and considering the damage it does at the ramp, it's definitely worth it.
What else would he be feeling sorry for though? I can also feel sorry for Zerg because stacked Sairs break the game since Zerg are supposed to have air dominance(at least where scourge are present). Stacked Sairs kill Scourge so easily, even when you attack from three different sides and it's not like you can easily target the different ones either(should you somehow be able to make it in). And air dominance leads to free Storm/Reaver/DT drops. Bisu's games and Snow's series against Jaedong displayed it pretty well. Most Protoss players just aren't good enough to play it properly(don't pay enough attention to the Sairs, for example). So no matter how good the Zerg is, he can't do anything.
At least here you can feel sorry for a player who played well while in the Stats game, you feel sorry for a race which was represented by a not-in-form Stats. What I want to say, feeling sorry is dumb(regarding a race) because it can go either way. Rather, feel sorry for someone like Sea who ended up in the group of death in last season's MSL.
Weren't you talking about the gas issue earlier? Sairs against Muta/Guardian, easy. You didn't say the Zerg player has Hydras and even if he has, then there are still HTs(and microed Sairs).
On July 10 2011 17:23 Tenhou wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:58 chisuri wrote:On July 10 2011 16:39 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:22 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well. I feel sorry towards stats but my arguement was that both races have something for getting up there. And I'd argue lurker / sunken / ling / defiler at ramp being way more robust than zealot / archon / ht / cannon You would need a pylon/creep there though. But regarding static defense, sunkens are certainly better than cannons considering that swarm pretty much negates them. Sunkens would prove useful when you finally march up the ramp. On July 10 2011 16:32 Vasoline73 wrote:
How can anyone say protoss can defend better than zerg O_O. Defilers + lurks + sunks + cracklings? Hyvaa obviously very talented v P and Stats lost fair and square but uhhhhhhh... Cracklings don't matter, lol. Archons > Cracklings. Also, on the other side of the ramp isn't unlimited space and when the density of units is too high, then storms would be even more devastating. And the one who is defending has less units there by the way. Otherwise a defense would be useless, right? (Not that it matters, more Zerg units means more Zerg units that die to storms.) And despite Protoss having better options to defend, I think it's fine for both races. So no need to feel sorry for either race which was the initial point of the discussion. You forgot one thing, you need detection to kill the Lurkers and Protoss has 1 detection that is quite easy to kill. And Archons are very gas extensive, hell they consume more gas than Ultras. So no, in real situation Zergs have better chance to defend AND go up a ramp than Protoss. And the statement about felling sorry for Protoss is not invalid even if Protoss can defend and force up a ramp better than Zerg. SC doesn't involve 1 dimension only (and even in this 1 dimension, there are more ways to bust a ramp rather than Lurkers and HTs only, how about Muta, Guardian, Ultra?), there are a lot of them. You don't need to go up a ramp if you have 99999 Ultras and Lings to bust your enemy's front. I like how the guy that started this say THAT GAME and now all those Zerg units and "Situation" are being brought up.
Haha, you are right.
On July 10 2011 17:23 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:32 Vasoline73 wrote:
How can anyone say protoss can defend better than zerg O_O. Defilers + lurks + sunks + cracklings? Hyvaa obviously very talented v P and Stats lost fair and square but uhhhhhhh... well idk reavers + high templar is super scary to engage ever let alone if the protoss is being the one on the defense. ^^
Almost forgot about reavers, yeah -_-
At least the Zerg players know what I'm talking about ^_^
But anyway, let's end this silly discussion since there is nothing really to gain from.
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man. I opened the results and went " waaaahH???" I didn't mistakenly open up the predictions tab??"
Must watch the Vods later, as Hyvaa vs Stats seemed insane and Action threw his game away after reading the entire LR thread.
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So delight to see Zergs defending the imba PvZ against protoss players. So sweet revenge for a past zerg cries against terrans XD
Damn, this is not funny. Whats wrong with the protoss (balance?)
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
whatever,we'll rape STX on the 12th ezpz.
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Damn wtf. I spoiled the lineup for myself and saw it only went 4 games and assumed KT swept STX 4-0 especially since Flash was matched up against Shuttle but nope it was KT that got owned.
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Lol what line-ups and results were totally unexpected.
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Wow, STX doesn't even need the good players. Ace game is gonna be hella exciting.
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On July 10 2011 19:58 Ravencruiser wrote:
Lol what line-ups and results were totally unexpected.
Yea, reading the line-ups I was like 95% KT and 5% STX.
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Wow...was not expecting this score.
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Well, this really sets up an interesting final series. Two easy wins traded. The coaches have much to think about.
On July 10 2011 17:03 Elefanto wrote:
What a glorious return against the evil empire.
Go STX, just one more time!
Yeah sure, the evil empire with 1 teammate suffering from cancer, 1 teammate suffering from a debilitating wrist condition and 1 teammate recently retired. That's just soo evil! Typical SKT fan response, i.e. petty and immature
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On July 10 2011 22:44 tyCe wrote:Well, this really sets up an interesting final series. Two easy wins traded. The coaches have much to think about. Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 17:03 Elefanto wrote:
What a glorious return against the evil empire.
Go STX, just one more time! Yeah sure, the evil empire with 1 teammate suffering from cancer, 1 teammate suffering from a debilitating wrist condition and 1 teammate recently retired. That's just soo evil! Typical SKT fan response, i.e. petty and immature
yeah how can a team be evil when they have the HERO!
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Sanya12364 Posts
On July 10 2011 16:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 15:57 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Screw you STX. You decide to stop sucking when Oz's playoff hopes are on the line and then go back to sucking once you make the playoffs. :/
Oz vs KT would've been so much more exciting. Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 21:26 Lucumo wrote:
I also think that OZ vs KT would have been more exciting. Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 06:12 Ryusei-R1 wrote:You're the delusional one. Oz would've done a much better job than STX ^_____________________________^
CSheep Hwaiting!!!
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Bisutopia19237 Posts
On July 10 2011 16:22 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:10 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:On July 10 2011 16:06 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 16:03 Ecrilon wrote:On July 10 2011 16:01 Lucumo wrote:On July 10 2011 15:58 aupstar wrote:That game almost makes me feel sorry for protoss.. Yeah, HTs and Archons imba, can defend ramps for like....forever -_- Defiler lurker, can defend ramps...forever. HTs can storm their way up there though lurker defiler can get their way up there too Whats your point? Huh? HTs up the ramp > lurkers, HTs down the ramp > lurkers. My point is that there is no point in feeling "sorry" for Protoss. Unless it was directed towards Stats not playing the race that well. I feel sorry towards stats but my arguement was that both races have something for getting up there. And I'd argue lurker / sunken / ling / defiler at ramp being way more robust than zealot / archon / ht / cannon
LOL, watch the Bisu vs Roro game from last month. That will show u how hard it is for protoss to get up ramps. Example is referring to the end of that match.
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KT Rolster will bounce back I hope o.O
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Hoping for more of the same the last day of this round.
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I think WHEN KT plays Flash is going to be pivotal in who wins on day 3.
If they play Flash early and if he wins/loses, both teams still have a good chance...
If they play him late in the match, and he wins, I think STX will do the typical crack under pressure and lose.
If they play him late and he loses, I think that'll boost STX to a win.
My thoughts on it, anyways. Wonder if STX is gonna try and get Shuttle in there vs Flash again. Funny how such a mediocre player is starting to give Flash so much trouble...kinda like ACE vs KT I guess XD
2 beats the Ace! :p
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Flash's TvP is really struggling right now. He has neglected the match-up ever since he beat Bisu twice in the ABC Mart MSL, and now he probably lacks the practice time required to reinvigorate it. Having said that, I think he will be fine against Zergs and Terrans.
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On July 10 2011 14:26 Torenhire wrote:
AWWWW YEAAAAH.
Suck it Flash, Shuttle is so pro. <3 This makes me so happy yayayayayay.
At least if STX loses, Shuttle beat Flash AGAIN
REVENGE THAT!!
stfu. does it even matter that flash is injured and not practicing as much?
User was warned for this post
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On July 11 2011 02:34 J1.au wrote:
Flash's TvP is really struggling right now. He has neglected the match-up ever since he beat Bisu twice in the ABC Mart MSL, and now he probably lacks the practice time required to reinvigorate it. Having said that, I think he will be fine against Zergs and Terrans.
Maybe he should stop using gimmicky no turrets no mines builds and stick to his basics
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On July 11 2011 03:52 johanes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:34 J1.au wrote:
Flash's TvP is really struggling right now. He has neglected the match-up ever since he beat Bisu twice in the ABC Mart MSL, and now he probably lacks the practice time required to reinvigorate it. Having said that, I think he will be fine against Zergs and Terrans. Maybe he should stop using gimmicky no turrets no mines builds and stick to his basics
One of the reason why I even watch Flash's game is his way to skimp through paper thin defences and have crispy sharp timings when pushing. Without those "gimmicks" he is just "ultimate turtle" and "cheddar terran".
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On July 11 2011 03:56 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 03:52 johanes wrote:On July 11 2011 02:34 J1.au wrote:
Flash's TvP is really struggling right now. He has neglected the match-up ever since he beat Bisu twice in the ABC Mart MSL, and now he probably lacks the practice time required to reinvigorate it. Having said that, I think he will be fine against Zergs and Terrans. Maybe he should stop using gimmicky no turrets no mines builds and stick to his basics One of the reason why I even watch Flash's game is his way to skimp through paper thin defences and have crispy sharp timings when pushing. Without those "gimmicks" he is just "ultimate turtle" and "cheddar terran".
and unbeatable, might i add
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Estonia4504 Posts
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Oh come on, there are more people who cheer for STX, even if they don't consider themselves "fans".
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Netherlands45349 Posts
hmm, so when is the third playoff?is it today?
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On July 10 2011 15:42 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 15:40 endy wrote:On July 10 2011 15:36 Zona wrote:On July 10 2011 15:35 endy wrote:
Really still adding more starport. Got a dozen now.
Reality must do something or he will lose, and advancing to the next round will be decided with the superace ! there's no superace, but a 3rd day - just like last year Oh wow, thanks for the info ! The third day is gonna be played next weekend or on week days ? Can't see anything on TL's schedule yet !
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oh wow. sweep on KT? lol didn't see that coming
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Doh! I just noticed Flash's TvP is <70%
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I went to sleep after Flash lost hoping for Kt to pull if off. And they didn't... That's not that painful. What is painful is the fact that they got 4:0ed...
And the game by Flash was really bad... I was painful to me to watch it...
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4-0 against stx without bogus, calm and kal? LOL
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On July 11 2011 03:51 DyEnasTy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:26 Torenhire wrote:
AWWWW YEAAAAH.
Suck it Flash, Shuttle is so pro. <3 This makes me so happy yayayayayay.
At least if STX loses, Shuttle beat Flash AGAIN
REVENGE THAT!! stfu. does it even matter that flash is injured and not practicing as much?
No, and I'd be just as happy if Shuttle beat Tossgirl in a match.
God forbid I cheer for my favorite player. Plus the revenge comment was in response to people saying that Flash was going to take his revenge on Shuttle for losing the last time they played.
KT fans start ragging on people for enjoying their team and favorite player...you guys are gonna start acting like SKT fans soon.
edit: hahaha Shuttle interview is amazing.
Q: How do you feel after defeating Flash and your team’s victory over KT?
A: Honestly, I wanted to face Flash. That’s partly because there would be very little pressure since no one would give me a chance anyway, and partly because I knew I could beat him. In my head I was going “please let it be Flash”, and when it was him, I was at ease. Because of that I was able to play comfortably.
Only person ever to WANT Flash :p
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On July 11 2011 09:10 Torenhire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 03:51 DyEnasTy wrote:On July 10 2011 14:26 Torenhire wrote:
AWWWW YEAAAAH.
Suck it Flash, Shuttle is so pro. <3 This makes me so happy yayayayayay.
At least if STX loses, Shuttle beat Flash AGAIN
REVENGE THAT!! stfu. does it even matter that flash is injured and not practicing as much? No, and I'd be just as happy if Shuttle beat Tossgirl in a match. God forbid I cheer for my favorite player. Plus the revenge comment was in response to people saying that Flash was going to take his revenge on Shuttle for losing the last time they played. KT fans start ragging on people for enjoying their team and favorite player...you guys are gonna start acting like SKT fans soon. edit: hahaha Shuttle interview is amazing. Show nested quote +
Q: How do you feel after defeating Flash and your team’s victory over KT?
A: Honestly, I wanted to face Flash. That’s partly because there would be very little pressure since no one would give me a chance anyway, and partly because I knew I could beat him. In my head I was going “please let it be Flash”, and when it was him, I was at ease. Because of that I was able to play comfortably.
Only person ever to WANT Flash :p
To be completely fair, i bet SKT and fantasy were hoping to face flash in the 5set of the grand finals last year. Effort probably wasn't too unhappy facing flash in the bigfile either.
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On July 11 2011 03:52 johanes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:34 J1.au wrote:
Flash's TvP is really struggling right now. He has neglected the match-up ever since he beat Bisu twice in the ABC Mart MSL, and now he probably lacks the practice time required to reinvigorate it. Having said that, I think he will be fine against Zergs and Terrans. Maybe he should stop using gimmicky no turrets no mines builds and stick to his basics
He should probably stop turtling on 3 bases and giving Best the rest of the map.
Wait no, I think he should keep doing that.
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k so now that it's official that flash is sucking (albeit getting less practice) bogus is the last hope for the terran race
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On July 11 2011 12:16 Motivate wrote:
k so now that it's official that flash is sucking (albeit getting less practice) bogus is the last hope for the terran race
pretty sad day for terrans if bogus is your lone star...
anyway. i still think flash will destroy everyone in the starleagues
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LOL Do not underestimate Flash... EVER!
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Not a good day overall, but that game by Action made me want to vomit. Horrible facepalm game. Losing more and more faith that he can be a reliable part of the lineup.
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On July 11 2011 15:27 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 12:16 Motivate wrote:
k so now that it's official that flash is sucking (albeit getting less practice) bogus is the last hope for the terran race pretty sad day for terrans if bogus is your lone star... anyway. i still think flash will destroy everyone in the starleagues
well fantasy is slumping, flash is slumping (with a good reason to), light sucks at tvp, sea sucks
who does that leave? bogus? o_o
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On July 11 2011 17:09 Motivate wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 15:27 Doraemon wrote:On July 11 2011 12:16 Motivate wrote:
k so now that it's official that flash is sucking (albeit getting less practice) bogus is the last hope for the terran race pretty sad day for terrans if bogus is your lone star... anyway. i still think flash will destroy everyone in the starleagues well fantasy is slumping, flash is slumping (with a good reason to), light sucks at tvp, sea sucks who does that leave? bogus? o_o
hahha personally i just hate terrans so i don't mind. lol
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On July 11 2011 17:10 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 17:09 Motivate wrote:On July 11 2011 15:27 Doraemon wrote:On July 11 2011 12:16 Motivate wrote:
k so now that it's official that flash is sucking (albeit getting less practice) bogus is the last hope for the terran race pretty sad day for terrans if bogus is your lone star... anyway. i still think flash will destroy everyone in the starleagues well fantasy is slumping, flash is slumping (with a good reason to), light sucks at tvp, sea sucks who does that leave? bogus? o_o hahha personally i just hate terrans so i don't mind. lol
lol i like any race that isn't protoss ^^ (zerg is my favourite race to play and watch)
except i like bisu and movie because they can actually pvz unlike the rest of that retard race who have the "HERP DERP I ONLY PRACTICE PVT TO SNIPE FLASH" mentality.
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I believe there are only so few P being capable of playing PvZ is due to the difficulty of the match-up. Z is in complete control of the game, save for the middle period after Storm tech kicks in and before Consume is done. And even then Toss have a difficult time attacking and defending vs Cracklings raid on their Expos during this period.
It is just that much easier for P to fight T, thats why we have more vT specialists =/. Although PvT looks kinda balanced now, it wasnt always like that, and once upon a time, not so long ago, the only Ts that were capable vP were Flash n Fantasy, probably for the same reason.
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On July 11 2011 17:19 ffreakk wrote:
I believe there are only so few P being capable of playing PvZ is due to the difficulty of the match-up. Z is in complete control of the game, save for the middle period after Storm tech kicks in and before Consume is done. And even then Toss have a difficult time attacking and defending vs Cracklings raid on their Expos during this period.
It is just that much easier for P to fight T, thats why we have more vT specialists =/. Although PvT looks kinda balanced now, it wasnt always like that, and once upon a time, not so long ago, the only Ts that were capable vP were Flash n Fantasy, probably for the same reason.
hiya can tvp like an asshole. 2 fact 2 fact 2 fact 2 fact
the sad thing is it works T_T
anyway T's haven't had that much trouble against protoss since fantasy/flash came along. recently though (in the last couple months) they've been having a lot of trouble against protoss, and in particular carriers.
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On July 11 2011 17:09 Motivate wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 15:27 Doraemon wrote:On July 11 2011 12:16 Motivate wrote:
k so now that it's official that flash is sucking (albeit getting less practice) bogus is the last hope for the terran race pretty sad day for terrans if bogus is your lone star... anyway. i still think flash will destroy everyone in the starleagues well fantasy is slumping, flash is slumping (with a good reason to), light sucks at tvp, sea sucks who does that leave? bogus? o_o
Light cant play tvp apparrently...
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It's slightly funny that the two players with the best TvP record in Proleague are Light and FBH.
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On July 11 2011 22:02 okum wrote:
It's slightly funny that the two players with the best TvP record in Proleague are Light and FBH.
Wait.......what?
What is wrong with the world?
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On July 11 2011 22:02 okum wrote:
It's slightly funny that the two players with the best TvP record in Proleague are Light and FBH.
Are you only talking about Rds 5-6 or the whole PL season? If it's the whole PL season, then it's certainly not Light and FBH.
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That doesn't include winner's league, in which Light went 0-6 vP.
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On July 11 2011 22:02 okum wrote:
It's slightly funny that the two players with the best TvP record in Proleague are Light and FBH.
Given that Light's 9-10 on the season, I really doubt this.
If you were referring to the last two rounds, then yeah, his 6-1 record probably is the best. Mostly bad P, but he did beat (slumping) Stork and Shuttle. The funniest thing is that his one loss is to Much.
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On July 11 2011 23:06 DarkMatter_ wrote:That doesn't include winner's league, in which Light went 0-6 vP.
Yup. Taking into account all PL games, I think the best TvP record is Fantasy's. About 59%. Followed by Flash and Sea at 57%.
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