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[SPL] Hwaseung OZ vs. STX SouL - Page 33

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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
May 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#641
its been hard being a oz fan nowadays, you see your ace player getting bullied on a consistent basis while his team being a total failure at times when it counts and when your ace player decides to step it up his game and start winning against better players he start losing to lousier players. oh the irony
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
May 16 2011 17:34 GMT
#642
Haha people who has Bogus on their anti team are screwed
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
May 16 2011 17:59 GMT
#643
On May 16 2011 22:44 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 22:09 tomatriedes wrote:
I have a question- is there any chance of a 9 pool doing enough damage to disrupt a 14 CC or does it have to be a 4 pool?


Watch sAviOr vs UpMaGiC Game 3 from Lost Saga MSL 2009. 9 pool usually kills 14cc outright.



I wouldnt give this game as example.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 16 2011 18:24 GMT
#644
On May 17 2011 02:34 vectorix108 wrote:
Haha people who has Bogus on their anti team are screwed


Yep, new RorO for sure. He didn't kill my anti too badly last season though, he can't do winner's league well yet.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 18:57:02
May 16 2011 18:56 GMT
#645
On May 17 2011 02:02 Kipsate wrote:
I had an exam when Oz played.

I come home and I see 4-3 with Jaedong losing the Ace

FML i'm not even going to watch that game, it will be too painfull for me.


Lol since a very long time I only watch games that Bisu won and never watch games that he lost, and I recommend his every win and vote "no" for any of his losses. See how awesome I am ?
Khassar de Templari
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
May 16 2011 19:12 GMT
#646
Mustaju must be so damn happy hahahaha.

Feel bad for the Dong though, man.
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 16 2011 19:27 GMT
#647
On May 17 2011 02:59 mdb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 22:44 Mooncat wrote:
On May 16 2011 22:09 tomatriedes wrote:
I have a question- is there any chance of a 9 pool doing enough damage to disrupt a 14 CC or does it have to be a 4 pool?


Watch sAviOr vs UpMaGiC Game 3 from Lost Saga MSL 2009. 9 pool usually kills 14cc outright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hDuBN6BVEw


I wouldnt give this game as example.

Why, it's an even better example: 9 pool beats 14cc even when the match was supposed to be fixed the other way :D Gotta love Saviors expression at 2:21, "damn you Up, I'll have a lot of explaining to do now, and it'll cost me a lot of money."

On May 17 2011 03:56 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 02:02 Kipsate wrote:
I had an exam when Oz played.

I come home and I see 4-3 with Jaedong losing the Ace

FML i'm not even going to watch that game, it will be too painfull for me.


Lol since a very long time I only watch games that Bisu won and never watch games that he lost, and I recommend his every win and vote "no" for any of his losses. See how awesome I am ?

You really seem proud of it :-p The same mentality often makes polls very spoling of the results, especially when it comes to games of Bisu, JD and ACE in general.
BW fighting!
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
May 16 2011 19:32 GMT
#648
On May 16 2011 22:09 tomatriedes wrote:
I have a question- is there any chance of a 9 pool doing enough damage to disrupt a 14 CC or does it have to be a 4 pool?


Well, if you're an MSL finalist:
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
May 16 2011 21:47 GMT
#649
On May 17 2011 04:12 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Mustaju must be so damn happy hahahaha.

Feel bad for the Dong though, man.

Actually, there's little reason to be happy in the team's current position. Calm losing won games vs. SKT, Kal playing at an all time low, Hero on a 7game loss streak, and Shuttle being shaky to say the least?

The loss to SKT still bears heavily on my mind. I still find it a bit hard to forgive Calm for putting me through Game 6, and his silly loss to Killer today just made it worse.

Also, there is nothing worse than seeing Bisu winning against STX players for me, and he did it twice that day. It's the teams fault, and I am very pessimistic about our chances against Woongjin Stars.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
May 16 2011 22:06 GMT
#650
Dangit JD! You've been doing so bad in SPL lately

Better win MSL to make up for it for your fans
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 17 2011 00:02 GMT
#651
On May 17 2011 04:32 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 22:09 tomatriedes wrote:
I have a question- is there any chance of a 9 pool doing enough damage to disrupt a 14 CC or does it have to be a 4 pool?


Well, if you're an MSL finalist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHUiz87UnHA

In all honesty, i feel 9 pool speed is better because there is absolutely no way (or time) to get a second barracks up, and the lair will be morphing. At this point they have no turrets, a handful of marines and a bunker. No way to defend against a muta ling attack.

Zergling runby? Try a MnM runby.
Thanks to korean air osl s2 finals, everyone knows how to defend 4 pool as terran.
☺
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 17 2011 00:21 GMT
#652
wow, looked at the results and wow

JD....

BW is back
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 17 2011 00:21 GMT
#653
Jaedong when he's about to type GG:

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Not again...

And here's something for mustaju:
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Clam in 7 years
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 17 2011 06:40 GMT
#654
On May 16 2011 18:59 Miragee wrote:
Jaedong played really sloppy in the beginning, but catching up with this massive drops better and better and than makes a beautiful comeback. Incredible to watch him push back the terran all over the map.
I wouldn't consider this a comeback--I think Jaedong was ahead all game. It's true that Last did some great harassment, but he was 1-2 bases behind all game long.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#655
On May 16 2011 22:44 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 22:09 tomatriedes wrote:
I have a question- is there any chance of a 9 pool doing enough damage to disrupt a 14 CC or does it have to be a 4 pool?


Watch sAviOr vs UpMaGiC Game 3 from Lost Saga MSL 2009. 9 pool usually kills 14cc outright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hDuBN6BVEw


That's good to know. At least with 9 pool it's not completely all-in.

GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51599 Posts
May 17 2011 16:14 GMT
#656
sigh, jae "i don't need to move back my lurkers" dong -_-
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
May 17 2011 20:05 GMT
#657
really sick game by bogus, glad to see him constantly being put as ace this round finally pay off. he's really improved over this season, I really hope he starts doing better in starleagues soon. too bad we didnt even get to see kal play :\. maybe he just needs some rest or something though.
Free Palestine
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
May 17 2011 21:42 GMT
#658
Jaedong got rolled straight up. Stop devaluing Bogus' victory and quit crying.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
May 17 2011 22:00 GMT
#659
On May 18 2011 06:42 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Jaedong got rolled straight up. Stop devaluing Bogus' victory and quit crying.


Uh what the fuck, who are you even talking to? All i see is comments saying it was a good push and people disappointed in Jaedong, no one's devaluing anything; what a pointless inciting post.

My thoughts on the last game; I think 14CC vs 12 hatch in those positions is always going to be difficult but Jaedong would clearly rather go for an economic game than coinflip an early pool. I'm surprised he didn't go 2hatch muta and be aggressive and try and end it quickly though, when i see 3hatch muta from that opening it doesn't make much sense. The muta's cannot do enough damage and they can't hold off the inevitable push at all, they can barely even stall cause of the amount of units.

Seems to me like it'd make more sense to go for a lurker opening in this situation. The map looks decent for them and least you can play a more secure defensive game and force the 14CC'er to micro more. Bogus in this case could simply walk very quickly to the other corner and set up position, short of a massive mistake by Bogus he had this totally in the bag. So in my opinion this was strategical mistake, 3hatch muta definitely not an optimal choice. Maybe cross-position.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 17 2011 22:38 GMT
#660
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