m18m able to get one hit off on the obs in his nat but it gets away 1 reaver out for grape, he's on 3 gates m18m adding 3rd and 4th gates, archives too
On April 26 2011 18:24 ShadeR wrote: I believe gRape can beat Hornag2 and advance into Ro8 MSL.
I believe Grape will win the rookie of the year award.
who are the others in the running?
FBH! vs P!
They release the nominees list for the Kespa awards after round 6. I suppose players like Turn and Sun/Rain might be considered too? Not really any outstanding rookies this season.
core coming for jangbi fbh's scv arrives at jangbi's base, zealot gets a few hits on it before it enters first vulture out, fbh sent 2 marines forwards but they pause
1 vulture gets into jangbi's main lays some mines, to little effect 2 kills but now fbh sends 2 vultures to jangbi's nat lays a mine and disrupts mining, not many probe kills though
It´s quite amusing...just imagine one to two year ago, someone would have considered Jangbi being the underdog against Firebathero... He would have been sent straight to the hospital...
ebay done, fbh adding a few turrets bordering his main, floats his 3rd cc down towards 2 fbh also starting to fortify his megachoke, and sends vultures to check out a few side expos - nothing there
jangbi drops a dt at fbh's fresh 3rd, loses a dt and forces a scan drops 2 more, forces another scan and picks them up
jangbi attacking into fbh's group of units no mines there storms! nice stasis but fbh on the high ground with limited surface area holds (on the NE hexside)
another obs lost to goliath/vessel jangbi moving forwards again - but he has no detection for mines!
jangbi freezes 4 tanks shelling 4.5 but fbh reinforces with a lot of vultures the tanks unfreeze and OBLITERATE the 5 remaining goons there in one salvo
jangbi has a good sized army just wandering around the map c'mon, man!
FBH has taken the 12 island, and 4 as well? so 5 base terran vs 6 base protoss, with 4.5 destroyed
FBH moving his army towards jangbi's plateau but he overextends himself as jangbi's massive army comes and cleans up that attack well the FRONTAL part of it, fbh still has another tank mass behind but no, jangbi freezes 6 of those tanks and cleans the rest of them up
with fbh's army spread out into little groups, they're vulnerable!
Seriously that was such awesome play. FBH made use of the ridges perfectly. Had tanks positioned at every high ground Jangbi could possibly escape through. In the end JB was so constricted he had no chance to hurt FBH's economy at all
I think its time for Jangbi to be removed from a lineup, he hinders KHAN results. And why dont they remove him? KHAN has some young players. I'm tired of seeing him losing
On April 26 2011 19:04 letian wrote: I think its time for Jangbi to be removed from a lineup, he hinders KHAN results. And why dont they remove him? KHAN has some young players. I'm tired of seeing him losing
Well because he might be doing very well during practice. Just like by.Sun.
On April 26 2011 19:04 letian wrote: I think its time for Jangbi to be removed from a lineup, he hinders KHAN results. And why dont they remove him? KHAN has some young players. I'm tired of seeing him losing
On April 26 2011 19:04 letian wrote: I think its time for Jangbi to be removed from a lineup, he hinders KHAN results. And why dont they remove him? KHAN has some young players. I'm tired of seeing him losing
i was watching thinking dong was juni, so at first i thought it was a lame strat... when seeing the ace coach laugh a bit i realized i made a mistake and instantly saw how brilliant that strat was... awesome win....
On April 26 2011 19:04 letian wrote: I think its time for Jangbi to be removed from a lineup, he hinders KHAN results. And why dont they remove him? KHAN has some young players. I'm tired of seeing him losing
To be honest I don't think it would have worked against a better player
The timing of the rest of ggaemo's buildings were the same as 12hatch and if the 2nd hatch isn't placed at the nat or an expo with gas, it telegraphs that the player is aiming for more lings
On April 26 2011 19:13 Kaolla wrote: i was watching thinking dong was juni, so at first i thought it was a lame strat... when seeing the ace coach laugh a bit i realized i made a mistake and instantly saw how brilliant that strat was... awesome win....
Yeah, it wasn't dong and Juni used a lame strat, but he isn't ace and did not win O_o. You mixed it up...twice.
academy done, scanners being added first obs heading out to ruby's base ruby sending 3 vultures out, stork taking a 3rd at 9 - vultures arrive before stork can finish walling it off, pick off the probe and pull back
ruby on double armory wait ruby has more than 8 factories...maybe 10? one obs scanned and destroyed by goliaths as goons clear mines nearby, they halt for awhile
ruby unsieges most of his stuff and moves forwards
stork's shuttle unloads 2 templar and storms clumps of tanks but ruby has even more stuff! why isn't ruby sieging? afraid of the shuttle? ruby pushing even closer to stork's nat, stork has to pull back
stork takes a 5th at 7 but will it kick in in time?
2 carriers out for stork, one obs by ruby's forces scanned and destroyed a good storm on ruby's frontal tanks but ruby has so much more stuff behind! ruby ramming into stork's nat
I just realized I can watch my computer screen from the toilet if I leave the door open. :D I never have to miss an important part of a game ever again due those stupid natural needs.
stork with 4 or 5 carriers now continuing to lose goons like mad at his nat
ruby taking a 4th at 12 carriers pick off a few tanks shelling 9 and a few more tanks outside stork's nat ruby sends a small force towards 7.5 but they get stormed
ruby clears out the goons at 4 and takes his 5th there
I just realized I can watch my computer screen from the toilet if I leave the door open. :D I never have to miss an important part of a game ever again due those stupid natural needs.
I just realized I can watch my computer screen from the toilet if I leave the door open. :D I never have to miss an important part of a game ever again due those stupid natural needs.
Congrats, dude. My room is like 20 feet from the bathroom.
I just realized I can watch my computer screen from the toilet if I leave the door open. :D I never have to miss an important part of a game ever again due those stupid natural needs.
ruby moving forwards with a few unsieged tanks to lure stork's units out of his nat stork storms a bunch of goliaths ruby's goliath count outside stork's nat is actually pretty low
I just realized I can watch my computer screen from the toilet if I leave the door open. :D I never have to miss an important part of a game ever again due those stupid natural needs.
that was really bad by Ruby.. he waffled his timing advantage by NOT punishing/taking out any expansion by being overly cautious, and now he's in an unwinnable position. Great job Ruby, you had this game by the balls but you threw it away..
late game tvp is so painful to watch lol, especially when it's not flash/fantasy playing. every time they gain map control and start to push into the nat with a huge ball and then they roll over and die to carriers
Only very few toss could have turned this around like Stork did. I have to reiterate how good FBH and Ruby became in PvT. ACE for free was a steal in FPL
no convincing play by stork... he was lucky there that it was "only" ruby he was playing against. i already felt happy for ace taking down jangbi AND stork.. damn..
On April 26 2011 19:45 mevshero wrote: no convincing play by stork... he was lucky there that it was "only" ruby he was playing against. i already felt happy for ace taking down jangbi AND stork.. damn..
Sadly, it's not like beating Jangbi is a performance nowadays.
to be honest with PL using a Bo7 performance, every team has to field some mediocre players. There's no team with 6 in-form, reasonably strong players. So we often get strong vs mediocre or mediocre vs mediocre matchups when watching PL nowadays. Really dulls one's interest.
sure it's not, but when you think about KHAN stork and jangbi are the first that come to your mind. who else has khan left? ok.. maybe great... i feel that ace is losing this series now
On April 26 2011 19:48 mevshero wrote: sure it's not, but when you think about KHAN stork and jangbi are the first that come to your mind. who else has khan left? ok.. maybe great... i feel that ace is losing this series now
On April 26 2011 19:48 mevshero wrote: sure it's not, but when you think about KHAN stork and jangbi are the first that come to your mind. who else has khan left? ok.. maybe great... i feel that ace is losing this series now
true but for much of this season and the end of last season Khan has been heavily reliant on rookies for their victories i think earlier in rounds 1 or 2 Turn and Brave where like 15-2 between them.
On April 26 2011 19:48 Zona wrote: to be honest with PL using a Bo7 performance, every team has to field some mediocre players. There's no team with 6 in-form, reasonably strong players. So we often get strong vs mediocre or mediocre vs mediocre matchups when watching PL nowadays. Really dulls one's interest.
While this is true, I believe the contrary. I love watching players we usually don't see.
I cannot stress how frustrating it was to watch January continue to field Jangbi (after he loses repeatedly) in Winners League over Reality/TurN/Brave.
On April 26 2011 19:45 mevshero wrote: no convincing play by stork... he was lucky there that it was "only" ruby he was playing against. i already felt happy for ace taking down jangbi AND stork.. damn..
I think he planned it out; he was never in a 'bad' position as such; ruby couldn't kill bases AND keep the contain while defending his own bases so Stork knew that he would have the econ/tech advantage when he eventually broke the contain. That being said, attacking uphill vs a huge mech push, not a good idea. :\
On April 26 2011 19:48 Zona wrote: to be honest with PL using a Bo7 performance, every team has to field some mediocre players. There's no team with 6 in-form, reasonably strong players. So we often get strong vs mediocre or mediocre vs mediocre matchups when watching PL nowadays. Really dulls one's interest.
Strong vs mediocre snipers and mediocre vs mediocre
can really produce some unorthodox entertaining games though
On the other hand, there is finally a chance to see great talents like Turn, Grape, or Soulkey in action. Also, proleague is now more of a team effort rather than the individual performance of one or two ace players. But I do have to admit that seeing Stork stamp on Ruby or Ggaemo crush Juni is way less interesting than seeing Stork against Ggaemo instead. On the other hand, it is unlikely that we would have seen much of Ggaemo at all if it wasn't for this format.
On April 26 2011 19:48 Zona wrote: to be honest with PL using a Bo7 performance, every team has to field some mediocre players. There's no team with 6 in-form, reasonably strong players. So we often get strong vs mediocre or mediocre vs mediocre matchups when watching PL nowadays. Really dulls one's interest.
Strong vs mediocre snipers and mediocre vs mediocre
can really produce some unorthodox entertaining games though
On April 26 2011 19:55 MisteR wrote: On the other hand, there is finally a chance to see great talents like Turn, Grape, or Soulkey in action. Also, proleague is now more of a team effort rather than the individual performance of one or two ace players. But I do have to admit that seeing Stork stamp on Ruby or Ggaemo crush Juni is way less interesting than seeing Stork against Ggaemo instead. On the other hand, it is unlikely that we would have seen much of Ggaemo at all if it wasn't for this format.
Ggaemo's one of the stronger players on ACE at the moment, if you ask me
On April 26 2011 19:54 Zona wrote: Iris!!!!!!!! playing a TvT!
I'll never forget his "scouted proxy two fac into goliath drop into victory" game against Flash in the GOM Classic finals, but he's on my FPL antiteam now, so he has to lose -_-
On April 26 2011 19:45 mevshero wrote: no convincing play by stork... he was lucky there that it was "only" ruby he was playing against. i already felt happy for ace taking down jangbi AND stork.. damn..
I think he planned it out; he was never in a 'bad' position as such; ruby couldn't kill bases AND keep the contain while defending his own bases so Stork knew that he would have the econ/tech advantage when he eventually broke the contain. That being said, attacking uphill vs a huge mech push, not a good idea. :\
he scanned the carriers and he was right having to push now, before the second wave of carriers will come out. he had the chance to destroy stork's nat/3rd but instead he hold his contain and waited until there are enough carriers to kill the contain. ruby should have crushed stork when stork lost most of his army in that up-cliff fight but i guess it was too risky for him. but no chance for terran when the p eco is really kicking in and carriers are out except you got the best goliath micro on the world
Turn also adding starport Iris's rax floating over turn's nat
and turn moves forwards with 2 vultures and 3 marines to interrupt iris's nat! and now 4 vultures are in iris's nat, iris with 1 tank and pulling a few scvs iris losing 4+ scvs! but he clears the attack
Iris's floating rax sees turn's starport turn's nat is up and running faster than iris's due to the interruption
turn's first wraith heading out, his rax landed in iris's base to stop the starport from adding a control tower 2 of iris's tanks heading out towards turn's nat but back off as the wraith starts hitting them
On April 26 2011 19:54 Zona wrote: Iris!!!!!!!! playing a TvT!
I'll never forget his "scouted proxy two fac into goliath drop into victory" game against Flash in the GOM Classic finals, but he's on my FPL antiteam now, so he has to lose -_-
Why would you do that, putting Iris on your antiteam =((
turn adding academy iris adding academy/armory iris has 2 facts while turn seems to have only the one? turn's wraiths hitting one of iris's tanks at iris's nat a major mismicro by turn, he loses all his wraiths (~3) to iris's!
but iris sends out 3 wraiths to attack the 4 sieged tanks, turn responds with 3 of his own wraiths and wins the battle with 2 wraiths remaining (did iris NOT repair his wraiths?) 1 valk out for iris, traded for 1 wraith
turn moving out with a few vultures and tanks actually a LOT of vultures and a bunch of tanks they move into iris's sieged tanks, fewer of them, but iris's units deal some damage to turn's units as they move in
iris retreats his scvs from center-SW while turn's 3rd CC is lifted because of 2 tanks shelling them
1 wraith hitting turn's tanks near center-SW, turn turns back
On April 26 2011 19:55 MisteR wrote: On the other hand, there is finally a chance to see great talents like Turn, Grape, or Soulkey in action. Also, proleague is now more of a team effort rather than the individual performance of one or two ace players. But I do have to admit that seeing Stork stamp on Ruby or Ggaemo crush Juni is way less interesting than seeing Stork against Ggaemo instead. On the other hand, it is unlikely that we would have seen much of Ggaemo at all if it wasn't for this format.
Ggaemo's one of the stronger players on ACE at the moment, if you ask me
I agree, my point is that he wasn't when he first came to ACE. In OZ he didn't get any chances because of the smaller format then, and consensus was he sucked. When he came to ACE, IIRC Gorush and Yellow were still there. If the new format hadn't been introduced by then there would've been a serious possibility that Ggaemo wouldn't have gotten much playtime and that he would've failed to make much of an impact, if at all. In the bo7 however he got regular chances and could prove himself over a longer time, changing his image from :O zerg to military Jaedong.
On April 26 2011 19:55 MisteR wrote: On the other hand, there is finally a chance to see great talents like Turn, Grape, or Soulkey in action. Also, proleague is now more of a team effort rather than the individual performance of one or two ace players. But I do have to admit that seeing Stork stamp on Ruby or Ggaemo crush Juni is way less interesting than seeing Stork against Ggaemo instead. On the other hand, it is unlikely that we would have seen much of Ggaemo at all if it wasn't for this format.
Ggaemo's one of the stronger players on ACE at the moment, if you ask me
I agree, my point is that he wasn't when he first came to ACE. In OZ he didn't get any chances because of the smaller format then, and consensus was he sucked. When he came to ACE, IIRC Gorush and Yellow were still there. If the new format hadn't been introduced by then there would've been a serious possibility that Ggaemo wouldn't have gotten much playtime and that he would've failed to make much of an impact, if at all. In the bo7 however he got regular chances and could prove himself over a longer time, changing his image from :O zerg to military Jaedong.
Too bad it only got worse with that minesweeper game .
iris's attempt at a 4th at 9 interrupted is iris really still on 5 factories or am I missing a few of them?
turn's larger vulture force getting some kills on iris's! and now turn's 4/5 wraith force killing iris's tanks! (while iris had some wraiths/valks at home) iris with 2 valks + 1 wraith(?) engages the wraiths and kills all but 1
turn moving towards iris's center expo again, loses 4 tanks to mines! but he clears out iris's defenses and starts to shell center-SW again!
iris adding a 6th CC at center-NW but he's going to lose his nat? and he isn't mining from center-SW but he uses pure vultures to clear 2 tanks by center-SW and resumes mining
I think Iris won that game mostly due to his experience which made sure he could keep calm and relaxed, unlike Turn who was sweating like a pig and seemed really tense whenever they showed him.
piano adding a few turrets, chases the lings outside his nat away
mutas heading out
piano's mnm group too small to head out...I hope he doesn't commit
mutas in piano's main, 4 turrets there great finds a blind spot in coverage at the main mineral line, netting quite a few kills 1 sunken/1 creep at great's nat! piano's mnm park outside now mutas engaging!
piano running part of his army through lurkers - so many dead marines
6 guardians put a stop to piano's attempt to expo at 2 now heading to piano's nat no, 2 wraiths are out and hitting the guardians here come some scourge
You can easily afford to trade some armies in the midgame when you Rax FE vs someone who first of all opens pool first and then goes for a 2 hatch build, you'll still be in a commanding position come late game. Zerg has to keep making units for all he's worth instead of drones. But Piano, man... that was a bad game. Not once did he actually threaten Great for real.
This isn't great at all, contrary to what we see. I've got FBH, Ggaemo, Stork and Grape on my FPL, and NONE of them are chosen for Ace. What the shit? Trolling mother-fucker coaches.
On April 26 2011 20:57 Cedstick wrote: This isn't great at all, contrary to what we see. I've got FBH, Ggaemo, Stork and Grape on my FPL, and NONE of them are chosen for Ace. What the shit? Trolling mother-fucker coaches.
You know the PL does not exactly revolve around your FPL team...
On April 26 2011 20:57 Cedstick wrote: This isn't great at all, contrary to what we see. I've got FBH, Ggaemo, Stork and Grape on my FPL, and NONE of them are chosen for Ace. What the shit? Trolling mother-fucker coaches.
ACE pushing two WL dominant teams to their limits! The rest of the roster better watch their backs now that it's back to Proleague. Finish the job, BERSERKER!
On April 26 2011 21:07 butchji wrote: JangBi's performance can not be called slump anymore right? It's like he isn't capable of winning at all anymore.
Have faith. He still show some of his former self once in a while...
On April 26 2011 21:08 maximuspita wrote: ACE pushing two WL dominant teams to their limits! The rest of the roster better watch their backs now that it's back to Proleague. Finish the job, BERSERKER!
Huh? SKT was 3rd, together with Hite and Samsung was 7th.
mutas hitting iris's southern depots - iris not moving to defend one depot falls iris instead moving out with mnm iris's control is on the ball the mnm fire at the mutas immediately as they come in range
2 lurkers morphing on the ramp to 2.5
2 creeps ready at great's nat, 3 lurkers morphing too
So thanks to great I lose one FPL point and my LB, darn =( And why does Iris perform now and not earlier? Makes me sad...but at least he is performing and that's something I should be happy about.
On April 26 2011 21:27 Lucumo wrote: So thanks to great I lose one FPL point and my LB, darn =( And why does Iris perform now and not earlier? Makes me sad...but at least he is performing and that's something I should be happy about.
Next time have ACE on your fpl, and liquibet ACE, like I did
On April 26 2011 21:27 Lucumo wrote: So thanks to great I lose one FPL point and my LB, darn =( And why does Iris perform now and not earlier? Makes me sad...but at least he is performing and that's something I should be happy about.
Next time have ACE on your fpl, and liquibet ACE, like I did
I like how after great loses everyone goes "should have sent Stork" when the ace match was on icarus and ACE was almost certain to send a terran (fbh/iris/ruby). Z >>>> T on Icarus.
Oh well at least Grape and Stork won. But man that game of Iris vs TurN was so disheartening! I think that TurN have panicked a lot. But Iris' multitask was insane with all his dropshit plays and that Macro man!
I don't rly think January is to blame for this, the reasons have been mentioned by other posters... Yea Stork is an exceptional player, but Great is playing quite well these days and deserves some recognition too. Also it seemed like a good choice on a map that's good for Z and a (good) chance that the opponent was Z as well. Anyway meh
On April 26 2011 22:18 endy wrote: January™ Screwing liquibets since 2004.
Not putting Stork seems like a big mistake but a few factors have to be considered: Icarus is SOOOO good for zergs and great's macro style is so favored on this map. Considering Icarus' favor for zerg and ggaemo's last ace match against Bisu, how close the game was, how beastly Bisu's PvZ is, a possible ggaemo vs Stork would be much more difficult than great ZvT or ZvP.
But, considering that this is an ace match and it has some pressure in it, probably Stork would be better.
On April 26 2011 22:32 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Wait, how did I miss this? Sad for Khan, but hell yeah ACE!
And why did January send great for ACE? Stork can cover most bases fine.
She probably thought that ggaemo would macro the shit out of in a possible game on icarus.
WHOOOHOOO ACE!!! YEAH!!! GOOD JOB!!!! I felt a bit bad after y'all lost to SKT... but I had to cheer for my team... your my second favorite team and I always cheer for you!
I saw the ace. I couldn't be happier. Last time Iris won 2 in a row? IRIS! IRIS MANNNNNNNN! THIS GUY IS LEGEND. NEEDS MORE EXCITEMENT. Sigh, I miss 3 hour VODs like once before.
I can see why Khan didn't want to put a toss in the ace but... come on.... stork can take down anyone on Ace on incarus. (I love most ace players but it's the truth)
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