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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
April 09 2011 12:05 GMT
#2441
On April 09 2011 21:05 AnyOne wrote:
s2's last 15 ZvP
11-4

stats last 15 PvZ
11-4

this should be good

for me i'll be happy as long as they are no busts :p
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
April 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#2442
On April 09 2011 21:03 Musou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 21:02 pinkranger15 wrote:
On April 09 2011 21:01 Mystlord wrote:
Stats. Yup.

Even if Stats beats s2, SKT has enough vPs in their lineup to take him down.


vP sniper? you mean Bisu?

Bisu is probably the worst vP on SKT at the moment. I'd give Fantasy or even By.Sun better chances than Bisu of taking out Stats.


The guy's lost like what? 4-5 PvT's this season?

He's also got the highest PvT elo at the moment (lol, along with Stork). I'd say he's got a better chance at taking out Flash of them all.


VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
April 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#2443
On April 09 2011 21:02 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 21:02 deafhobbit wrote:
Should have sent Flash, Icarus is very Z > P, and s2 rocks vP.

I would like you to know that Icarus is very Z >>>>> T


Icarus is just a Z map period. It's just better to a) send sidekick before final boss, b) get a Protoss on Aztec if possible and c) avoid a PvT sniper on Azetc. I think KT would be confident of Flash beating s2 on Icarus, it's just there's no good reason to send him over Stats.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
April 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#2444
On April 09 2011 21:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Can we please update OP?


On April 09 2011 21:04 Lightwip wrote:

[image loading]
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(Z)s2 < Bloody Ridge > (Z)Action
+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
s2 had to ppp twice vs Action because of hardware issues, and then there was a regame.

(Z)s2 < Fortress SE >(Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)s2 < Icarus > (P)Stats
< Circuit Breaker >
< Aztec >
< La Mancha >
< Empire of the Sun >
SKT 2-0 KT


[image loading]
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Poll: Recommend Game 1?

No (33)
 
70%

Yes (14)
 
30%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


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Poll: Recommend Game 2?

No (30)
 
59%

Yes (21)
 
41%

51 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


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Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#2445
That commercial was about how everyone on T1 is doubting Bisu

Fantasy: "They should just send me out instead of him"

Other teammates: "Use arbiters gosh"

And Bisu trying to imitate the Mantoss... Not enough manvibes.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
April 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#2446
On April 09 2011 21:04 Zona wrote:
damn, even in the parade of smiling SKT faces, Hyuk's is still a frown
damn


Guess who's not getting to play today.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#2447
On April 09 2011 21:02 kdgns wrote:
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On April 09 2011 20:59 Nikon wrote:
What I don't understand is why KT sent Crazy-Hydra out for game 2. Trying to snipe s2 with through a ZvZ seems foolish at best.


Look at S2's win rates, he has 68% vs toss, the dude was made for taking out toss, he just happens to be good with zvz recently, but his bread and butter is zvp.


lol, 25 game sample size with terrible opponent quality
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 09 2011 12:07 GMT
#2448
On April 09 2011 21:05 Vanka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 21:04 MoonBear wrote:
On April 09 2011 21:02 pinkranger15 wrote:
On April 09 2011 21:01 Mystlord wrote:
Stats. Yup.

Even if Stats beats s2, SKT has enough vPs in their lineup to take him down.


vP sniper? you mean Bisu?

Fantasy has great vP as well. If Best has been practising, he could also be viable.


wasn't sun originally hyped to be a pvp sniper when he debuted? was the central plains go to guy...

Sun hasn't had a great vP streak recently. Check his TLPD. While Best hasn't been too hot recently, really wants to prove himself. He's also more experienced. But both are still viable!
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
April 09 2011 12:07 GMT
#2449
On April 09 2011 21:02 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 21:02 deafhobbit wrote:
Should have sent Flash, Icarus is very Z > P, and s2 rocks vP.

I would like you to know that Icarus is very Z >>>>> T

Agreed. I cant understand why they sent out zergs so early when icarus and aztec, the more zerg favoured maps are in the middle of the game
Aah thats the stuff..
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
April 09 2011 12:07 GMT
#2450
On April 09 2011 21:03 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 21:02 hauton wrote:
On April 09 2011 21:00 ondik wrote:
On April 09 2011 20:58 Lightwip wrote:

[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)s2 < Bloody Ridge > (Z)Action
(Z)s2 < Fortress SE >(Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)s2 < Icarus >
< Circuit Breaker >
< Aztec >
< La Mancha >
< Empire of the Sun >
SKT 2-0 KT


[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Game 1?

No (33)
 
70%

Yes (14)
 
30%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Game 2?

No (30)
 
59%

Yes (21)
 
41%

51 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +

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thanks for this.. first the OP creates the thread just to piss all the SKT fans, then he doesn't even update it.. sigh

are we really starting to moan about OP bias now?


Do you know OP's history I'm talking about?

No, does it matter?

As someone who knows nothing about the poster, his OP was fine. No bias as far as I can tell.

Him not updating is the problem, lets not get distracted.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
April 09 2011 12:07 GMT
#2451
On April 09 2011 21:06 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 21:02 ArvickHero wrote:
On April 09 2011 21:02 deafhobbit wrote:
Should have sent Flash, Icarus is very Z > P, and s2 rocks vP.

I would like you to know that Icarus is very Z >>>>> T


Icarus is just a Z map period. It's just better to a) send sidekick before final boss, b) get a Protoss on Aztec if possible and c) avoid a PvT sniper on Azetc. I think KT would be confident of Flash beating s2 on Icarus, it's just there's no good reason to send him over Stats.

pretty much want to avoid sending out Flash until set 6 or 7 I think
Writerptrk
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 09 2011 12:08 GMT
#2452
Every SKT zerg is competent vs protoss. But whether or not they're brilliant depends on the day.

KT coaching staff sweating!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 09 2011 12:08 GMT
#2453
14-14 in ZvP on this map. That's kinda neat.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5211 Posts
April 09 2011 12:08 GMT
#2454
KT Coach nervous about the capability of Flash + Stats being able to 4-1 SKT.
FBH #1!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 09 2011 12:08 GMT
#2455
KT Coach looking very nervous. S2 with deathglare as his hands warm up. Stats with a nervous look as he prepares to hold the line!
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
April 09 2011 12:08 GMT
#2456
On April 09 2011 21:08 Zona wrote:
Every SKT zerg is competent vs protoss. But whether or not they're brilliant depends on the day.

KT coaching staff sweating!

Yep. Apparently they beat Bisu pretty often in practice, so they gotta be at least good haha
Writerptrk
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
April 09 2011 12:09 GMT
#2457
Last Time SKT1 only focused on Flash and Stats AK'ed them, this times KT seems to have focused on Bisu only? Hopefully not...
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
April 09 2011 12:09 GMT
#2458
Lovely reference by Bisu
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 09 2011 12:09 GMT
#2459
One big thing about sending Flash last is less pressure on the other players, because they don't have to worry about being totally responsible if they lose. Even the interviews mentioned the change in mindset in WL that helped KT's other players perform better.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
April 09 2011 12:09 GMT
#2460
Did no-one reads Flash's interview? They're playing right into his hands...
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