I've managed to avoid Chinese commentary until up to now... This guy's voice is quite nasally. o.O;; Luckily, I can still somewhat hear the Korean commentators in the background.
On March 24 2011 17:12 Spica wrote: The Korean commentators keep on going, "Oooh let's see if Trap can defeat the OSL champion OSL champion OSL champion OSL champion!!!11!!"
We get it already. -__-;
On MBC? I thought out of all people they would want to downplay that
On March 24 2011 17:12 Spica wrote: The Korean commentators keep on going, "Oooh let's see if Trap can defeat the OSL champion OSL champion OSL champion OSL champion!!!11!!"
We get it already. -__-;
On MBC? I thought out of all people they would want to downplay that
Well, if the OSL champion gets knocked out in the prelims for MSL....
I like the question mark. It was your Fantasy to create an LR thread but you were a bit sHy and didn't want to fall into the Trap of creating one after someone else and getting your thread closed. Now that it's done, we can watch the ggaemo.
On March 24 2011 17:24 jalstar wrote: I like the question mark. It was your Fantasy to create an LR thread but you were a bit sHy and didn't want to fall into the Trap of creating one after someone else and getting your thread closed. Now that it's done, we can watch the ggaemo.
fantasy doing a lock down on trap natural looking for a way to stop containt trap brings some arbiters to take out the tanks... not looking good at all for trap.
Hope ggaemo will win his game against Shy. It's going to be awkward facing each other as former teammates, lolz. But Shy advancing wouldn't be bad as well.
Shy double expands to 9 and min only, prepares to attack. Storms massacre ggaemo but he fought that off with hydras. Now he is attacking shy. backs off
That game was too drawn-out imo... Someone should have been more aggressive. Not that much better than Fantasy's one-sided roll, since this was a much more slow and painful death for Shy.
Shy did have nice storm usage though, and some good timing attacks. ggaemo had just too many units waiting for him. Things are looking good for him when he faces off against Trap, unless he gets hard BO countered. ggaemo's multi-tasking blunders might cost him his game against Fantasy.
On March 24 2011 18:00 Faranth wrote: Might be a wee bit off-topic, but what happened to the Zerg practice of switching to Mutalisks to snipe the High Templar? Perhaps I haven't been watching enough PvZ lately but it seems like such a rarity now despite its utility.
The meta-game shift from Bisu's 2nd revolution is what happened to HT sniping. Now toss will build up enough sairs to control the air before before investing in HT and storms. HTs come later while having more sairs to protect them makes HT sniping not cost effective anymore.
Quite the early pool from Ggaemo, perhaps early speedling aggression? Just a guess. Even though I am an OZ fan I'd feel quite sorry for him if he were to play standard against this opponent.
Ggaemo trying to bait out Fantasy's marine past the blockade with a single drone, lol. Fantasy takes his natural while adding a fact and starport. Meanwhile Ggaemo has also taken his natural and is going for lair.
Edit: Vulture in ggaemos base. Takes out several drones :x
Mutalisks popping for ggaemo, bit late due to the delayed spire. Still no third for him, if this harass doesn't succeed this game could be over very quickly. Is he planning to all-in?!
mutas out for ggaemo, no damage done yet. Sci facility lifts and gets off a nice irradiate which ggaemo smartly parks over Fanta's marines. 3 lurks morphing in the middle. 5 rax pumping with 3 tank 1 vessel timing coming not coming for some odd reason.
Hive finally finished, adds a defiler mound ASAP. This is the timing window for Fantasy if he wants to end this game now or draw it out for late game. Fantasy starts pushing towards ggaemos natural. No defilers, lurks dying. Looks bad for ggaemo.
Ggaemo manages to catch tanks in the back while Fanta's M&M force is barging into his natural. Drones dying, defilers without consume dying. Looks like the end. Consume finished but the damage is done and its too late. GG should be expected.
Defiler den 1/2 done, fanta taking a 3rd. Pushing slowly into the nat of ggaemo. Is consume done? Tight . ggaemo throws away 2 lurks and 20 odd lings for no reason into fatas army. Here comes the bust. 4 lurks come to flank the tanks. Fanta is in the main of ggaemo. Taking out a hatch. This looks over.
Consume done and pushes Fanta out. Fanta runs into the main deeper while sending a sqaud of marines to the 3rd which is saved with a nice swarm but its over.
ggaemo... Didn't do much that game after that early aggression in the beginning. Fantasy got easy games today, 2 one-sided steamrolls. Well, he got an easy ticket to the MSL.
I'm satisfied seeing Fantasy advance, so now I'm out until Bisu! Thanks for making the OP catabowl!
Lol, DES reported ggaemo saying, "I thought that I had already researched Adrenal Glands, but I was shocked when I found out that I didn't." WP ggaemo, WP.
I was afk in the middle of game 2 and tuned back in to see ggaemo still on 2 bases while Fantasy had a Science Facility floating in his main, and guessed it was only a matter of time before Fantasy won.
Ggaemo seemed a bit shaky and undecisive this game.
First the unneccessarily fast lings which pretty much delayed the rest of his tech pattern and gave no profit. Then the quite late mutalisk harass which was already denied by vessels and a late third into opting for a macro game? I don't understand ^_^. The only thing that kept him in that game was some lurkerling ninja style moves.
On March 24 2011 18:42 dibbaN wrote: Ggaemo seemed a bit shaky and undecisive this game.
First the unneccessarily fast lings which pretty much delayed the rest of his tech pattern and gave no profit. Then the quite late mutalisk harass which was already denied by vessels and a late third into opting for a macro game? I don't understand ^_^. The only thing that kept him in that game was some lurkerling ninja style moves.
Well well, betta luck next time.
Not only that, Fanta also played well. That vulture killing 6 drones in such early stage of the game decided ggaemo's fate immediately.
On March 24 2011 18:42 dibbaN wrote: Ggaemo seemed a bit shaky and undecisive this game.
First the unneccessarily fast lings which pretty much delayed the rest of his tech pattern and gave no profit. Then the quite late mutalisk harass which was already denied by vessels and a late third into opting for a macro game? I don't understand ^_^.
Well, after he was behind already because of 9-pool vs. wall-in he let a Vulture slip by. He didn't even notice it. It scouted the Hydra Den and the Lair which was a disaster because it gave away his Lurker strategy. On top of that it killed not less than 6 drones on top of his already weaker economy and scouted tech. It was already way gg at that point.
On March 24 2011 18:42 dibbaN wrote: Ggaemo seemed a bit shaky and undecisive this game.
First the unneccessarily fast lings which pretty much delayed the rest of his tech pattern and gave no profit. Then the quite late mutalisk harass which was already denied by vessels and a late third into opting for a macro game? I don't understand ^_^. The only thing that kept him in that game was some lurkerling ninja style moves.
Well well, betta luck next time.
Not only that, Fanta also played well. That vulture killing 6 drones in such early stage of the game decided ggaemo's fate immediately.
Yes ofcourse, Fantasy was his usual very good self. I was just surprised by ggaemos divided game plan.
Funny how I just now realized Trap is the guy who knocked out IdrA from GOM Classic S3. I knew there was something to dislike about him. sHy, revenge our Gracken!!! -_-'
Seriously, he is doing much better in Ace than he did in OZ. This happened to Anytime too. I have always suspected there was something wrong with the coaching in Oz's house.
Wait for Jaedong enlist to Ace : two dual titles in a row and a platinum mouse incoming!
OP, I recommend that you put the spoiler of the pics of Jung Laden and ggaemo under the lineup in the Results section so that people don't mistakenly click on it and spoil themselves of seeing the results. Just a suggestion to prevent the possibility of you getting flamed by others!
OK, so that was about the most annoying set of polls/recommendations I've seen so far. I understand you like Bisu but whileobnoxious levels of fanboyism in the OP is fine for HYPE sections or even in response to a good game, simply polluting an unrelated thread with it is really silly and I don't see why you would post/maintain a LR thread just to talk about something else
Just is a little upsetting and especially putting it in EVERY POLL makes checking out the recommended games/results pretty useless.
On March 25 2011 01:24 tedster wrote: OK, so that was about the most annoying set of polls/recommendations I've seen so far. I understand you like Bisu but whileobnoxious levels of fanboyism in the OP is fine for HYPE sections or even in response to a good game, simply polluting an unrelated thread with it is really silly and I don't see why you would post/maintain a LR thread just to talk about something else
Just is a little upsetting and especially putting it in EVERY POLL makes checking out the recommended games/results pretty useless.
Only one game was worth checking out. Everything else was pretty standard timings... one game went 15 minutes way too long.
awesomely happy about the results LIQUIBET~ um... how in the world does nevake a.k.a. moktira upload such awesome VOD's soooo quickly???? LOVE YOU MOKTIRA!!!
On March 25 2011 01:24 tedster wrote: OK, so that was about the most annoying set of polls/recommendations I've seen so far. I understand you like Bisu but whileobnoxious levels of fanboyism in the OP is fine for HYPE sections or even in response to a good game, simply polluting an unrelated thread with it is really silly and I don't see why you would post/maintain a LR thread just to talk about something else
Just is a little upsetting and especially putting it in EVERY POLL makes checking out the recommended games/results pretty useless.
Only one game was worth checking out. Everything else was pretty standard timings... one game went 15 minutes way too long.
If you don't like it, then you do the next one?
Then put that. Pointless hype polls are kinda cool when the options are "FUCK YEAH" vs. "i hate sc" but not when it's "when is bisu even though he's not in this game or even this group lolololo". The purpose of a LR OP is to be informative to people who missed part of or all of the matches.
If you don't want to do that then don't do a next one.
On March 25 2011 01:24 tedster wrote: OK, so that was about the most annoying set of polls/recommendations I've seen so far. I understand you like Bisu but whileobnoxious levels of fanboyism in the OP is fine for HYPE sections or even in response to a good game, simply polluting an unrelated thread with it is really silly and I don't see why you would post/maintain a LR thread just to talk about something else
Just is a little upsetting and especially putting it in EVERY POLL makes checking out the recommended games/results pretty useless.
Only one game was worth checking out. Everything else was pretty standard timings... one game went 15 minutes way too long.
If you don't like it, then you do the next one?
That would have made a great thing to put in the recommendations instead. Whether or not I did the LR really has nothing to do with anything, as someone will virtually always pick up a LR if it's not going on.
It is absolutely appreciated when you make a LR thread, but you're also taking responsibilities on yourself that are widely acknowledged:
1. Don't spoil the games in your OP 2. Try not to disappear midthread 3. Provide recommended games/results that help a next-day reader get a glimpse of the series
It's understandable that people are miffed because you were clearly still around and hadn't spoiled the games, so it appears to have been a conscious decision by you to produce confusing/misleading polls that are basically just a fanboy circlejerk.
It's totally fine to have a fanboy circlejerk in a thread where your player is actually being discussed, or after he wins/loses, or even in just a general shittalk sense, but it's really unhelpful and pretty unpleasant when it gets shoehorned into what we've all come to expect to be a useful section of the LR that many of us consult to get information about what games we might take the time to watch the next day - especially when it has nothing at all to do with the games.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and I hope you don't take it too personally because I am totally fine with you doing LR threads - the current one just ends up feeling very neglected and intentionally misleading, and it really only serves to make me feel resentment towards Bisu fans (who already have a bad enough rep, justified or not, as it is and don't need it to be any worse).
On March 25 2011 09:56 oneofthem wrote: i know it was a long time ago but the bin laden stuff is out of line. not going to say i lost friends there, but a lot of people did.
It's his nickname in Korea, it's not like someone here just made it up to upset people. And it's a joke. You don't have to find it funny, but there's really no use calling someone out on it unless you're going to call out every time someone jokingly references Stalin, or Hitler, or Bush, or anyone else who has ever been affiliated with the death of innocents.
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