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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
March 16 2011 01:53 GMT
#201
On March 16 2011 10:50 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:48 l0st_romantic wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:39 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:35 Release wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:37 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:36 Grobyc wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:31 insanet wrote:
LOL at everyone saying Bisu PvT is good just because statistics say it so.
His PvT is so messy, he doesnt even use storms, he stands no chance against Flash right now. Only Fantasy has a chance against Flash.

pff

Sadly, after that loss to Reality, I'm just not feeling it. Either Bisu or Fantasy have to do it.

Bisu plays PvT on the same level as stork, until he deals with tanks.

I've seen Bisu play perfect PvT, I've seen him play awful PvT. We'll see what he'll give us today.


Bisu plays good PvT against shitty opponents, and crumbles versus Flash, Fantasy, Hiya, Leta...

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/10937_Bisu_vs_Flash/vod
He crumbled pretty bad in that game, didn't he?

Link



Crumbled pretty bad in that game, i think.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 16 2011 01:54 GMT
#202
On March 16 2011 10:48 l0st_romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:39 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:35 Release wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:37 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:36 Grobyc wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:31 insanet wrote:
LOL at everyone saying Bisu PvT is good just because statistics say it so.
His PvT is so messy, he doesnt even use storms, he stands no chance against Flash right now. Only Fantasy has a chance against Flash.

pff

Sadly, after that loss to Reality, I'm just not feeling it. Either Bisu or Fantasy have to do it.

Bisu plays PvT on the same level as stork, until he deals with tanks.

I've seen Bisu play perfect PvT, I've seen him play awful PvT. We'll see what he'll give us today.


Bisu plays good PvT against shitty opponents, and crumbles versus Flash, Fantasy, Hiya, Leta...


vs Flash? His most recent game, Bisu did indeed suffer a psychological breakdown and therefore lost his advantage. Bisu was clearly ahead early game and had Flash's number but simply overextended himself.

vs Fanta? Not sure where the hell this came from, but the last game head with Fanta was two years ago and in all seriousness, he won the more recent games. Not that it rally matters

vs Hiya? Oh sure, Bisu decided to go carriers and he ended up failing at it. It was clear that Bisu polished up on it in his game vs Sea. In a straight up PvT vs Hiya, I'm not sure you can say that so confidently.

vs Leta? Hard BO counter. Nuff said.

Again, not saying that Bisu's vT is perfect, but seriously, refrain from making overgeneralized and over stated claims like "shitastic pvt".

Be a good forumer, stop the trashing, support your players that you support, and respect others' views. And for God's sake, enjoy the dam games.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 16 2011 02:30 GMT
#203
On March 16 2011 10:50 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:35 Release wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:37 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:36 Grobyc wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:31 insanet wrote:
LOL at everyone saying Bisu PvT is good just because statistics say it so.
His PvT is so messy, he doesnt even use storms, he stands no chance against Flash right now. Only Fantasy has a chance against Flash.

pff

Sadly, after that loss to Reality, I'm just not feeling it. Either Bisu or Fantasy have to do it.

Bisu plays PvT on the same level as stork, until he deals with tanks.


Might be right as Bisu expressed open fear toward tanks in his 30/30 interview.

Edit: Just noticed that Bisu is on verge of being knocked out of the 2300 club.

Tanks are imba also Bisu gotta win today to stay in 2300 club :o
Writerptrk
ZavikZyke
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States382 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 02:41:55
March 16 2011 02:40 GMT
#204
On March 16 2011 11:30 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:50 dukethegold wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:35 Release wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:37 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:36 Grobyc wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:31 insanet wrote:
LOL at everyone saying Bisu PvT is good just because statistics say it so.
His PvT is so messy, he doesnt even use storms, he stands no chance against Flash right now. Only Fantasy has a chance against Flash.

pff

Sadly, after that loss to Reality, I'm just not feeling it. Either Bisu or Fantasy have to do it.

Bisu plays PvT on the same level as stork, until he deals with tanks.


Might be right as Bisu expressed open fear toward tanks in his 30/30 interview.

Edit: Just noticed that Bisu is on verge of being knocked out of the 2300 club.

Tanks are imba also Bisu gotta win today to stay in 2300 club :o


<3 Tanks. They make my life so much better in games XD I'm pretty sure Bisu can get at least a win or two today. I believe he's gotten at least one win in every vs KT game?

But I'm sure Hoejja will beat him. <---- Blind Fanboy
Hoejja is Bonjwa
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
March 16 2011 02:47 GMT
#205
CAn't waitttt!
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 16 2011 02:50 GMT
#206
Worthy of noting the last two maps have a win rate of around 54-55% PvT.
Not that that really matters vs Flash.
Definitely will watch all the VODs tomorrow (damn interviews)
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 16 2011 02:51 GMT
#207
On March 16 2011 11:30 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:50 dukethegold wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:35 Release wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:37 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:36 Grobyc wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:31 insanet wrote:
LOL at everyone saying Bisu PvT is good just because statistics say it so.
His PvT is so messy, he doesnt even use storms, he stands no chance against Flash right now. Only Fantasy has a chance against Flash.

pff

Sadly, after that loss to Reality, I'm just not feeling it. Either Bisu or Fantasy have to do it.

Bisu plays PvT on the same level as stork, until he deals with tanks.


Might be right as Bisu expressed open fear toward tanks in his 30/30 interview.

Edit: Just noticed that Bisu is on verge of being knocked out of the 2300 club.

Tanks are imba also Bisu gotta win today to stay in 2300 club :o


Wow, I didn't notice how much Jaedong dropped in ELO
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mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
March 16 2011 02:54 GMT
#208
On March 16 2011 11:40 ZavikZyke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 11:30 ArvickHero wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:50 dukethegold wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:35 Release wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:37 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:36 Grobyc wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:31 insanet wrote:
LOL at everyone saying Bisu PvT is good just because statistics say it so.
His PvT is so messy, he doesnt even use storms, he stands no chance against Flash right now. Only Fantasy has a chance against Flash.

pff

Sadly, after that loss to Reality, I'm just not feeling it. Either Bisu or Fantasy have to do it.

Bisu plays PvT on the same level as stork, until he deals with tanks.


Might be right as Bisu expressed open fear toward tanks in his 30/30 interview.

Edit: Just noticed that Bisu is on verge of being knocked out of the 2300 club.

Tanks are imba also Bisu gotta win today to stay in 2300 club :o


<3 Tanks. They make my life so much better in games XD I'm pretty sure Bisu can get at least a win or two today. I believe he's gotten at least one win in every vs KT game?

But I'm sure Hoejja will beat him. <---- Blind Fanboy
Only in R1 where he beat ForGG. In R2 and R3 he was beaten by Action and Flash respectively without getting any wins.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 16 2011 02:59 GMT
#209
ahh I'm still used to the time games were slotted before -_- damn daylight savings pushing everything back an hour
Writerptrk
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 16 2011 03:01 GMT
#210
On March 16 2011 11:59 ArvickHero wrote:
ahh I'm still used to the time games were slotted before -_- damn daylight savings pushing everything back an hour


Are you EST?
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ZnocK
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 03:08:14
March 16 2011 03:07 GMT
#211
1 more hour to go!!!! ~~~ HYPE HYPE HYPE!~!~
Wonder if anyone will tune in to the other games
Flash ~~ Neo Bonjwa ~~ The Last Generation
ZavikZyke
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States382 Posts
March 16 2011 03:12 GMT
#212
On March 16 2011 11:54 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 11:40 ZavikZyke wrote:
On March 16 2011 11:30 ArvickHero wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:50 dukethegold wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:35 Release wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:37 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:36 Grobyc wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:31 insanet wrote:
LOL at everyone saying Bisu PvT is good just because statistics say it so.
His PvT is so messy, he doesnt even use storms, he stands no chance against Flash right now. Only Fantasy has a chance against Flash.

pff

Sadly, after that loss to Reality, I'm just not feeling it. Either Bisu or Fantasy have to do it.

Bisu plays PvT on the same level as stork, until he deals with tanks.


Might be right as Bisu expressed open fear toward tanks in his 30/30 interview.

Edit: Just noticed that Bisu is on verge of being knocked out of the 2300 club.

Tanks are imba also Bisu gotta win today to stay in 2300 club :o


<3 Tanks. They make my life so much better in games XD I'm pretty sure Bisu can get at least a win or two today. I believe he's gotten at least one win in every vs KT game?

But I'm sure Hoejja will beat him. <---- Blind Fanboy
Only in R1 where he beat ForGG. In R2 and R3 he was beaten by Action and Flash respectively without getting any wins.


Oh yeaah I remember the angry fans during those threads. Good times.
Hoejja is Bonjwa
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 03:13:51
March 16 2011 03:13 GMT
#213
On March 16 2011 12:01 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 11:59 ArvickHero wrote:
ahh I'm still used to the time games were slotted before -_- damn daylight savings pushing everything back an hour


Are you EST?

nah PST lol, altho it must suck a lot for EST ppl
Writerptrk
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
March 16 2011 03:13 GMT
#214
On March 16 2011 11:59 ArvickHero wrote:
ahh I'm still used to the time games were slotted before -_- damn daylight savings pushing everything back an hour

Same here. It's so irritating. I got off iccup to watch this match, only to realize it's yet another hour later. >_<

SKT needs to win this to get a spot in WL playoffs, right?
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
March 16 2011 03:16 GMT
#215
On March 16 2011 10:50 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:48 l0st_romantic wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:39 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 10:35 Release wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:37 Lightwip wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:36 Grobyc wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:31 insanet wrote:
LOL at everyone saying Bisu PvT is good just because statistics say it so.
His PvT is so messy, he doesnt even use storms, he stands no chance against Flash right now. Only Fantasy has a chance against Flash.

pff

Sadly, after that loss to Reality, I'm just not feeling it. Either Bisu or Fantasy have to do it.

Bisu plays PvT on the same level as stork, until he deals with tanks.

I've seen Bisu play perfect PvT, I've seen him play awful PvT. We'll see what he'll give us today.


Bisu plays good PvT against shitty opponents, and crumbles versus Flash, Fantasy, Hiya, Leta...

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/10937_Bisu_vs_Flash/vod
He crumbled pretty bad in that game, didn't he?


That was from what, 08-09? Look at their recent engagements, bro.

If you want to go and keep digging up old Vods I'm sure there's a few Go.Go VODs that can be used to argue that Bisu has an even worse PvT...
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
Terrorterran
Profile Joined January 2009
Peru256 Posts
March 16 2011 03:22 GMT
#216
30 minutes to go.

KT fighting
GG
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 16 2011 03:25 GMT
#217
On March 16 2011 12:22 Terrorterran wrote:
30 minutes to go.

KT fighting


30 minutes.. X_X
MY PRECIOUS SLEEP!
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 16 2011 03:31 GMT
#218
Honestly guys, who cares about this Bisu PvT argument crap.
Here are some facts.
His PvT is good. Very good. Maybe not as good as some others like Stork etc yadayada, but it's easily in the top 5 when you get down to it.
He has probably the best PvZ of anyone.
His PvZ overshadows his PvT, so people underestimate it.
Flash is better at TvP then Bisu is at PvT. oh nooo.
There are possible occurences called upsets.

My predictions: Flash and Bisu either do a 3 kill into RAK. Or they both lose in their 1st games to some crappy player that shouldn't have been put in.
yay, heres looking forward to some good games, whatever the outcome may be
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 16 2011 03:31 GMT
#219
If it ends in a the 2 hour time slot, I might get 4 hours of shut-eye tomorrow.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 16 2011 03:31 GMT
#220
damn those hype polls have so many votes, and so few are for a team.

Go BeSt (and the rest of SKT)
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
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