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2011 MSL Season1 Preliminaries - Page 4

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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 23:36:33
February 26 2011 23:36 GMT
#61
These groups are so small now that progaming teams are 15-ish players instead of 25-ish players.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 00:10:06
February 27 2011 00:09 GMT
#62
On February 27 2011 08:36 jalstar wrote:
These groups are so small now that progaming teams are 15-ish players instead of 25-ish players.

102 players in the MST prelims isn't small. That makes 134 players registered for the MSL (TLPD lists 155 active players) which isn't bad at all.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 27 2011 00:18 GMT
#63
On February 27 2011 09:09 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 08:36 jalstar wrote:
These groups are so small now that progaming teams are 15-ish players instead of 25-ish players.

102 players in the MST prelims isn't small. That makes 134 players registered for the MSL (TLPD lists 155 active players) which isn't bad at all.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82971

Used to be twice as many players per group, teams just let a lot of players go lately plus now there's 10 teams instead of 12.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
February 27 2011 00:26 GMT
#64
Most of those players were filler that didn't get past the prelims (nor even got their prelims games televised). Obviously the playerbase shrunk somewhat, but its not that big of a detriment.

As it is, even with ~140 players we don't get to follow that many of them. I wish dreamleague was televised like the high school league is.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
February 27 2011 02:15 GMT
#65
Wow, Tossgirl has such a tough group

Ssak, who beat Flash
Grape, who plays regularly in PL/WL and recently started winning
Kwanro, who has to be a pain to play against
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 02:41:48
February 27 2011 02:41 GMT
#66
K, put Pusan back on MBC, I don't think you can play prelims without at least sort of being on a team but I could be wrong.

Also who are the two retirements? fOrGG and ???
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#67
Go Guemchi. Reclaim that bonjwa status.
God Bless
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 02:44:55
February 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#68
On February 27 2011 11:41 jalstar wrote:
I don't think you can play prelims without at least sort of being on a team but I could be wrong

nal_ra (as part of Oldboy?)


Also, is Pusan not part of ACE? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=132156
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 02:49:29
February 27 2011 02:45 GMT
#69
I searched Pusan and apparently he's been on the bench as a coach for MBC? So he didn't go to ACE, I guess he's just doing prelims since he still has his license.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 02:55:53
February 27 2011 02:55 GMT
#70
On February 27 2011 11:41 jalstar wrote:
Also who are the two retirements? fOrGG and ???

Hogil
On February 27 2011 11:45 jalstar wrote:
I searched Pusan and apparently he's been on the bench as a coach for MBC? So he didn't go to ACE, I guess he's just doing prelims since he still has his license.

He's registered as a playing coach.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
February 27 2011 03:11 GMT
#71
I'm so excited to see so many new faces with blank records in the pro scene.

Also, Pusan is back!? *drools*

On a site note: Only one player making it through each group? Well then, I gotta feel sorry for Ssak, Grape and Kwanro. See you next MSL!

Always smile~
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
February 27 2011 03:20 GMT
#72
On February 27 2011 11:15 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, Tossgirl has such a tough group

Ssak, who beat Flash
Grape, who plays regularly in PL/WL and recently started winning
Kwanro, who has to be a pain to play against

Er, Mong isn't Ssak. Ssak made it to the Ro16 last time so he is seeded into MST.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
February 27 2011 04:40 GMT
#73
On February 27 2011 08:36 jalstar wrote:
These groups are so small now that progaming teams are 15-ish players instead of 25-ish players.

I was worried about that too. So I decided to check the Courage applicant numbers for recent months. It seems that after hitting rock bottom in the December tournament, the number of Courage applicants has been steadily rising since January. Eventually I think it will return to the level of early-mid 2010. BW is slowly regaining the interest it lost in the early season.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
February 27 2011 05:05 GMT
#74
Bah, Mind is in a group with two tosses and the very same zerg who knocked him out in a past MSL if I remember correctly..

Also it would seem Shy is in the MST. Intriguing. He looks promising. And also Gogo PARALYZE
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
February 27 2011 05:14 GMT
#75
On February 27 2011 09:18 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 09:09 moopie wrote:
On February 27 2011 08:36 jalstar wrote:
These groups are so small now that progaming teams are 15-ish players instead of 25-ish players.

102 players in the MST prelims isn't small. That makes 134 players registered for the MSL (TLPD lists 155 active players) which isn't bad at all.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82971

Used to be twice as many players per group, teams just let a lot of players go lately plus now there's 10 teams instead of 12.


you can thank mr. savior for the decrease in number of teams and number of players. he took out people like luxury and hwasin, players who make proleague that much more exciting. the more that I think about it, the more that it becomes clear that savior rolled the korean e-sports industry back like 3 years. ffs its terrible
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
February 27 2011 05:19 GMT
#76
3 time msl finalist why are you here....
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
February 27 2011 23:18 GMT
#77
+ Show Spoiler +

Group 1
Tough group. By.Sun/Crazy-Hydra is 50/50. By.Sun gets played a lot for SKT, so he have to be talented. For that reason I think he can improve his PvZ enough to win this.

Group 2
Skyhigh. I believe!

Group 3
Brave obv.

Group 4
I think Frotoss will beat Lomo, but it's a open game.

Group 5
Horang2 obv.

Group 6
Turn, Turn, Turn. Saint is not bad, but Turn have good TvZ.

Group 7
I want to believe in Tossgirl, but Grape would own her. I think Grape makes it, although you can't count out Kwanro.

Group 8
Movie is finding his form in PvT, so I don't think Reality will be any problem.

Group 9
Flying vs FBH. It can be a close one, but I'm rooting for FBH. Flying will prolly make it since he's younger and hungrier.

Group 10
ggaemo.

Group 11
n.die_soo will barely beat Iris. Actually this is a very close one.

Group 12
JangBi is a bit too Much for grandpa Toss.

Group 13
Cute Angel have the highest potential, but don't count out M18M.

Group 14
The noob group. Ruby will probably beat Alone/Princess.

Group 15
Shuttle obv.

Group 16
hero lol. Anytime might be able to stop him, but I doubt it.

Group 17
Bogus in the prelims is bogus. Poor Hoejja/Nbs. Rock wouldn't make it in any group.

Group 18
Interesting group with Pure, Yellow and (T)Poor Man's Flash. I think Yellow still got it and will make it, but you never know about Pure. He's got high potential if he finds confidence.

Group 19
Best lost to Orion last MST, so hero[join] have a good shot. If Best doesn't make it out of this he's definately over as a A-rank player. I think he'll make it though.

Group 20
Hyun obv.

Group 21
Mind lol. Poor Reach.

Group 22
Hyuk will awesome his way past this group, although BByong can be problematic.

Group 23
Tyson lol

Group 24
Modesty for sure

Group 25
Baby lol

Group 26
Hiya lol. Poor Pusan.
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
February 27 2011 23:23 GMT
#78
On February 27 2011 14:19 ShadeR wrote:
3 time msl finalist why are you here....

Who are you referring to? Jangbi's been to 2 MSL finals along with Reach. Who else?
Pieismyign
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States176 Posts
February 27 2011 23:26 GMT
#79
aw man, wheres Leta even though hes in a slump.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
February 27 2011 23:31 GMT
#80
Going to be pissed when Pure 2-1's Yellow out of MSL...
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