[SWL] Hwaseung OZ vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 39
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							dibban
							
							
						 
						
						Sweden1279 Posts
						 
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							SaetZero
							
							
						 
						
						United States855 Posts
						 
					![]() I see a few of Bisu, please let one of them be awesome!  | ||
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							Noxide
							
							
						 
						
						United States2870 Posts
						 
					On February 17 2011 00:50 SaetZero wrote: Recommended games? did any sets get a 4 or 5? I open up the thing and i see 7 games of empty boxes, like he used a symbol i don't have the font for. ![]() I see a few of Bisu, please let one of them be awesome! He recommended set 5 and 6. Both got 5's.  | ||
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							SaetZero
							
							
						 
						
						United States855 Posts
						 
					Thank you!!  | ||
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							tbrown47
							
							
						 
						
						United States1235 Posts
						 
					+ Show Spoiler [result spoil] + good job on stoppin that AK hiya... but picking up the win woulda been nice too... also... dong.... : [  | ||
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							malady
							
							
						 
						
						United States600 Posts
						 
					should of just stuck to gateway units an found that timing window when hiya expanded to his fourth to get his 4th all kill oh well least he let hit teammates get some wins lol  | ||
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							Grebliv
							
							
						 
						
						Iceland800 Posts
						 
					On February 16 2011 23:30 GinDo wrote: Now that i think about it when was the last time you saw a toss win with Carriers ![]() Just about any recent stork game i remember where he gets to them aside from that one in the osl finals. And then it wasn't really the carriers, more the fact that his nat had become his opponents base by the time they did anything.  | ||
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							wherebugsgo
							
							
						 
						
						Japan10647 Posts
						 
					He threw away some gas on DTs and he always seems to have trouble with mines and observers. He loses way more observers than, for example, Stork. He also has poorer Arbiter/Carrier control. Honestly though, I don't think he lost because of the carrier switch. I think he lost because he didn't use enough gateway units. Also, does anyone know why Protoss players don't reaver harass Terrans more? I feel like Bisu could win a lot if he treats his PvT more like the way he plays PvP. Lately he hasn't been excelling in either matchup, but his harass in PvP is excellent. His reaver and shuttle control are also phenomenal, so I dunno why he doesn't incorporate that instead of the perpetually boring 2/3 base arbiter/carrier builds.  | ||
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							Seraphic
							
							
						 
						
						United States3849 Posts
						 
					but I agree, Bisu shouldn't use Carriers live. He NEVER does well with them. Don't throw away an obvious AK by being over-confident.  | ||
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							wherebugsgo
							
							
						 
						
						Japan10647 Posts
						 
					On February 17 2011 09:41 Seraphic wrote: That's probably because Reavers are hit and miss. If you are a good player, you can dodge it most of the time. Storm drops are safer, more or less. but I agree, Bisu shouldn't use Carriers live. He NEVER does well with them. Don't throw away an obvious AK by being over-confident. Right, but he didn't storm drop either. Plus, reavers are a pretty good addition to your normal army that takes minimal micro in PvT (compared to storms or arbiters). I'm sure you can whittle down vulture numbers pretty handily just by having a reaver around.  | ||
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							Lightwip
							
							
						 
						
						United States5497 Posts
						 
					Jaedong just dropped the 2300 club. Now we only have Bisu and Flash 2300'ing.  | ||
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							Turbovolver
							
							
						 
						
						Australia2394 Posts
						 
					Bisu had like equal bases with Hiya, did nothing to Hiya's economy, and only got off one good stasis and at a time when he couldn't use it. He played the game far too passive, and that's what's always been wrong with his PvT you ask me. I will admit that carriers played into this by giving him a window where he couldn't do jack, but I would seriously claim that if he doesn't go carriers there he loses even quicker.  | ||
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							Random_0
							
							
						 
						
						United States1163 Posts
						 
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							wherebugsgo
							
							
						 
						
						Japan10647 Posts
						 
					On February 17 2011 12:55 Turbovolver wrote: Can people stop just saying "lol Bisu goes carriers he loses build more gateway units"? Bisu had like equal bases with Hiya, did nothing to Hiya's economy, and only got off one good stasis and at a time when he couldn't use it. He played the game far too passive, and that's what's always been wrong with his PvT you ask me. I will admit that carriers played into this by giving him a window where he couldn't do jack, but I would seriously claim that if he doesn't go carriers there he loses even quicker. I didn't say he shouldn't have gone carriers. He should have just made more gateway units. When you go carriers you're forced into passivity for a while. He wasn't even on bases because Hiya was constantly fighting on his side of the map, constantly disrupting mining in at least one of his bases at a time.  | ||
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							Seraphic
							
							
						 
						
						United States3849 Posts
						 
					Honestly when he was winning all of his PvT early this year, he was smart AND aggressive. He sort of needs to stay that way in my opinion. His style has always been timed attack, and making openings for himself. If he keeps playing smart, sticks to his style of play, Bisu will be just fine.  | ||
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							flamewheel
							
							
						 
						
						FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
						 
					On February 17 2011 12:37 Lightwip wrote: Wow. Jaedong just dropped the 2300 club. Now we only have Bisu and Flash 2300'ing. He'll be back.  | ||
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							Ubersturmfuhrer
							
							
						 
						
						Finland206 Posts
						 
					I sure hope he will. Sometimes he looks so old and drained. Then again, he's like a year younger than Bisu so he should still have ample time to have a new prime.  | ||
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							Fishmalk
							
							
						 
						
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							Megaliskuu
							
							
						 
						
						United States5123 Posts
						 
					On February 18 2011 06:11 Fishmalk wrote: Jaedong is going to retire soon. go away  | ||
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							Lightwip
							
							
						 
						
						United States5497 Posts
						 
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