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[SWL] WeMade FOX vs KT Rolster - Page 29

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huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
February 13 2011 05:51 GMT
#561
A lesson in playing to win vs playing not to lose, I think.
skating
barkles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States285 Posts
February 13 2011 05:51 GMT
#562
Jesus christ, someone update the recommended games section so I can recommend GAME FUCKING 4!!!!
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
February 13 2011 05:51 GMT
#563
Mind you had points in that game where you should have taken initiative (especially at the 12, which you could have simply sieged from high ground) but it is against Flash after all.

Playing hard against Flash up to that point is already a + in my book, no matter how "fail" he could have been in executing a victory.

I'm happy that Mind at least showed something and didn't just get steamrolled into failgg.

Hopefully Wemade can pick up the scraps from here and try and secure a victory.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
February 13 2011 05:51 GMT
#564
Flash: "Hell yeah I won a TvT! ^__^ Oh wait crap... I may have to face 2 more"
Flash vs. WeMade, his worst nightmare?
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
February 13 2011 05:51 GMT
#565
On February 13 2011 14:51 Shinshady wrote:
Okay actually looking back at the game, I dont understand why Mind didn't take that base, instead of making it just an area for his airport... I mean really?

It's a mineral only. Mind probably had 3000 in the bank so it didn't really matter.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
February 13 2011 05:51 GMT
#566
I wonder if Mind had actually attacked 12/1 and not just sat his tanks out of range...
RIP MBC Game Hero
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
February 13 2011 05:52 GMT
#567
lolol at flash's fanboys. -___- Mind was playing just stupid - not scouting before BC fight, fighting an uphill battle, refusing to build vessel. T_T Ok Flash just didn't give up, but it was Mind who granted him victory himself. T_T

I more prefer Flash when Flash is winning like vs Jaedong and others call him "godlike", than when his opponents give him the victory for free just by being very, very unaccurate and dumb.

Well played by Flash and holymotherfuckingawful mistakes by mind
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
February 13 2011 05:52 GMT
#568
It is good that Mind gave Flash a long game to "tire" him out for the long grind of a reverse all kill. =)
Brood War forever!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 13 2011 05:52 GMT
#569
Hahahaha, you know what? I wrote several times during this game about how it was over and Flash didn't have a chance, but I never posted anything like that because we've been through the exact same thing so many times before. I've learned from my mistakes; you can literally never count Flash out of a TvT.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
February 13 2011 05:52 GMT
#570
On February 13 2011 14:51 barkles wrote:
Jesus christ, someone update the recommended games section so I can recommend GAME FUCKING 4!!!!

At least he updates the OP, give him props for that xD
BeSt[WHITE] Have a great retirement | "SKT is best KT." - Vortok | http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7190/ep24hitcombo2small.gif
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
February 13 2011 05:52 GMT
#571
On February 13 2011 14:52 _Quasar_ wrote:
lolol at flash's fanboys. -___- Mind was playing just stupid - not scouting before BC fight, fighting an uphill battle, refusing to build vessel. T_T Ok Flash just didn't give up, but it was Mind who granted him victory himself. T_T

I more prefer Flash when Flash is winning like vs Jaedong and others call him "godlike", than when his opponents give him the victory for free just by being very, very unaccurate and dumb.

Well played by Flash and holymotherfuckingawful mistakes by mind


Flash seized victory by the balls with that ridiculously risky drop on Mind's factories.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
February 13 2011 05:53 GMT
#572
On February 13 2011 14:51 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 14:51 Shinshady wrote:
Okay actually looking back at the game, I dont understand why Mind didn't take that base, instead of making it just an area for his airport... I mean really?

It's a mineral only. Mind probably had 3000 in the bank so it didn't really matter.

that extra 3000 maybe didn't remind him that there is a very useful anti-drop and anti-BC building that costs only minerals?

X_x
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
February 13 2011 05:53 GMT
#573
On February 13 2011 14:52 Holgerius wrote:
Hahahaha, you know what? I wrote several times during this game about how it was over and Flash didn't have a chance, but I never posted anything like that because we've been through the exact same thing so many times before. I've learned from my mistakes; you can literally never count Flash out of a TvT.


Indeed. I still remember that ridiculous comeback against FBH he executed. Flash has an uncanny knack for somehow turning the table on his opponents.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
February 13 2011 05:53 GMT
#574
On February 13 2011 14:50 Crais wrote:
If fox sends out a couple Ts it will tire the hell out of flash


Been there, done that. Other teams already tried this strat, unfortunately he has incredible stamina and he will not falter before a couple of puny Terrans.
o choro é livre
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
February 13 2011 05:54 GMT
#575
On February 13 2011 14:48 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 14:47 Zona wrote:
And mind concedes

he really flubbed that


i mean he was clearly at a huge advantage, but it's a bit hard to point out exactly what mind's mistakes were

too passive

didn't siege inner 1????

... got his main dropped?

oh and sucks at bcs maybe

it's easy to point out exactly what his mistakes were.

1. playing for the long game when Flash is more solid overall than he is, instead of trying to shut down more of Flash's expos. (both 12 and inner 1 were vulnerable for the longest amount of time) i.e. the longer the game goes on, the more chances Flash has to come back against him
2. never building a vessel despite Flash going BC's, until it was too late
3. handling his BC's incautiously (perhaps assuming that Flash didn't have near-equal numbers)

to be honest all of the above could possibly be attributed to Mind just not keeping up with what Flash was doing - not scanning the right places or sending sacrificial scvs or vultures to keep track of what was going on

4. leaving big holes in his defense, assuming Flash would never exploit them

In addition, I also hypothesize that massing more dropships would have helped mind a lot on both defense and offense.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
February 13 2011 05:54 GMT
#576
On February 13 2011 14:48 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 14:47 Zona wrote:
And mind concedes

he really flubbed that


i mean he was clearly at a huge advantage, but it's a bit hard to point out exactly what mind's mistakes were


Mind played solidly.

Flash won that game through some precision dropping, the physics lab snipe and some game winning EMPs. Flash made that win; Mind got out played is all. But that's understating how solid Mind's play was.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 13 2011 05:54 GMT
#577
flash taking lessons from mvp on how to win with bcs.

suicide everything besides bcs.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
EPO
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada341 Posts
February 13 2011 05:54 GMT
#578
lol Flash... how you so good.. srsly.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
February 13 2011 05:54 GMT
#579
On February 13 2011 14:50 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Yeah, the most brilliant thing in that game was Flash pretending to throw away his dropships the same way Mind did, and then actually dropping. Mind was so out of position because he was used to the normal progression of TvT, and that won Flash the game. A couple minutes without making BCs and losing your upgrades is a pretty big deal.


I was so impressed by this move from Flash. Save it for Pimpest Plays. Totally mind gamed him and gave Flash a big part of the comeback.
日本語が分かりますか
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 13 2011 05:55 GMT
#580
On February 13 2011 14:52 _Quasar_ wrote:
lolol at flash's fanboys. -___- Mind was playing just stupid - not scouting before BC fight, fighting an uphill battle, refusing to build vessel. T_T Ok Flash just didn't give up, but it was Mind who granted him victory himself. T_T

I more prefer Flash when Flash is winning like vs Jaedong and others call him "godlike", than when his opponents give him the victory for free just by being very, very unaccurate and dumb.

Well played by Flash and holymotherfuckingawful mistakes by mind

When similar things happen time and time and time again with the same player it's not a coincidence. No other player in the world would've won that game given the same situation as Flash was in.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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