On January 17 2011 19:18 ArvickHero wrote: yup, going carriers was just plain dumb from Much, there's no way he could've expected Baby to be taht bad to get away with it
Ace players wins almost always come exclusively from these type if tricksy high risk play.
From an ACE standpoint, FBH is perfectly capable of making an appearance here because Wemade lacks a Protoss to snipe FBH and FBH is solid vZ and vT so..
On January 17 2011 19:22 Apex wrote: From an ACE standpoint, FBH is perfectly capable of making an appearance here because Wemade lacks a Protoss to snipe FBH and FBH is solid vZ and vT so..
FBH is just terrible lately, sorry.I wouldn't count on his TvT anymore, not to mention TvZ.
On January 17 2011 19:22 Apex wrote: From an ACE standpoint, FBH is perfectly capable of making an appearance here because Wemade lacks a Protoss to snipe FBH and FBH is solid vZ and vT so..
FBH is just terrible lately, sorry.I wouldn't count on his TvT anymore, not to mention TvZ.
Hmm, I remembered him doing really well with that 3-star commander build against Soo. He's also gotten a win off Kal. He's lost against Great but played a close match until the end against Stats. I wouldn't exactly chalk it up as terrible.
On January 17 2011 19:22 Apex wrote: From an ACE standpoint, FBH is perfectly capable of making an appearance here because Wemade lacks a Protoss to snipe FBH and FBH is solid vZ and vT so..
FBH is just terrible lately, sorry.I wouldn't count on his TvT anymore, not to mention TvZ.
TvT is good if he stops being cocky and fucking around with wraiths. WE GET IT YOUR IN THE AIRFORCE. TvZ is good if he survives post muta harass. STOP SKIMPING ON TURRETS MANG. TvP he beat Kal straight up. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
On January 17 2011 19:22 Apex wrote: From an ACE standpoint, FBH is perfectly capable of making an appearance here because Wemade lacks a Protoss to snipe FBH and FBH is solid vZ and vT so..
FBH is just terrible lately, sorry.I wouldn't count on his TvT anymore, not to mention TvZ.
His TvP is where he's excelling recently XD
(His TvZ is good if he doesn't die to mutalisk harassment. He said it in an interview himself, and his awesome no ground build suggests the truth in his words.)
On January 17 2011 19:22 Apex wrote: From an ACE standpoint, FBH is perfectly capable of making an appearance here because Wemade lacks a Protoss to snipe FBH and FBH is solid vZ and vT so..
FBH is just terrible lately, sorry.I wouldn't count on his TvT anymore, not to mention TvZ.
TvT is good if he stops being cocky and fucking around with wraiths. WE GET IT YOUR IN THE AIRFORCE. TvZ is good if he survives post muta harass. STOP SKIMPING ON TURRETS MANG. TvP he beat Kal straight up. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
On January 17 2011 19:22 Apex wrote: From an ACE standpoint, FBH is perfectly capable of making an appearance here because Wemade lacks a Protoss to snipe FBH and FBH is solid vZ and vT so..
FBH is just terrible lately, sorry.I wouldn't count on his TvT anymore, not to mention TvZ.
TvT is good if he stops being cocky and fucking around with wraiths. WE GET IT YOUR IN THE AIRFORCE.
Just got to ask the korean speaking TLers, the grunting sounds one of the commentators are making, are they actually words? AAAARRRRRGHHH, KEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHH etc >_>
Haha, funny arbiter. "Hmm, this looks like a good location for a recall... Nah, screw it, I'm going over there. What? You want me to recall here? Awww, man."
Goddam look at those storms, but it doesnt matter if he looses his goliaths, cuz all he needs is to make more Fukin7-base terran v 2 base toss? not even hard
On January 17 2011 20:17 Necosarius wrote: Why no FBH ?! T_T
Because the Berserker is a fucking legend.
Not as much of a legend as FBH IMO.
Iris has played my two favorite TvZ ever, and my favorite TvP. He's awesome.
FBH has played 2 of my favourite TvZs ever (vs Savior on Python and vs JD in that BC game) and he has performed more awesome ceremonies than any other human being alive. And his TvP is also legendary, in it's own little special way.
On January 17 2011 20:17 Necosarius wrote: Why no FBH ?! T_T
Because the Berserker is a fucking legend.
Not as much of a legend as FBH IMO.
Iris has played my two favorite TvZ ever, and my favorite TvP. He's awesome.
FBH has played 2 of my favourite TvZs ever (vs Savior on Python and vs JD in that BC game) and he has performed more awesome ceremonies than any other human being alive. And his TvP is also legendary, in it's own little special way.
I'd say there both pretty equal, but Iris is older, and has gone deeper in SLs. He also has a history of choking, which makes me like him even more. I like both in fact, just saddens me you would not fully recognize Iris' awesomeness.
On January 17 2011 20:17 Necosarius wrote: Why no FBH ?! T_T
Because the Berserker is a fucking legend.
Not as much of a legend as FBH IMO.
Iris has played my two favorite TvZ ever, and my favorite TvP. He's awesome.
FBH has played 2 of my favourite TvZs ever (vs Savior on Python and vs JD in that BC game) and he has performed more awesome ceremonies than any other human being alive. And his TvP is also legendary, in it's own little special way.
I'd say there both pretty equal, but Iris is older, and has gone deeper in SLs. He also has a history of choking, which makes me like him even more. I like both in fact, just saddens me you would not fully recognize Iris' awesomeness.
I never once said anything negative about Iris, and I never once said he wasn't a legend. All I said was that FBH was even more legendary. We are talking about a guy who smashed Savior in a Bo5 and humiliated him afterwards (which was well deserved considering what a douchebag Savior evidently was).
On January 17 2011 20:17 Necosarius wrote: Why no FBH ?! T_T
Because the Berserker is a fucking legend.
Not as much of a legend as FBH IMO.
Iris has played my two favorite TvZ ever, and my favorite TvP. He's awesome.
FBH has played 2 of my favourite TvZs ever (vs Savior on Python and vs JD in that BC game) and he has performed more awesome ceremonies than any other human being alive. And his TvP is also legendary, in it's own little special way.
I'd say there both pretty equal, but Iris is older, and has gone deeper in SLs. He also has a history of choking, which makes me like him even more. I like both in fact, just saddens me you would not fully recognize Iris' awesomeness.
I never once said anything negative about Iris, and I never once said he wasn't a legend. All I said was that FBH was even more legendary. We are talking about a guy who smashed Savior in a Bo5 and humiliated him afterwards (which was well deserved considering what a douchebag Savior evidently was).
I reproach you your "No FBH ?", as though Iris making an appearance wass nothing. Plus I really disagree. Speaking about sAviOr, Iris took him to game 5 in a TvZ, and almost beat him in one of the greatest game ever, and that was at his peak, before Bisu 3-0ed him. One week after, sAviOr made Nada look like a bad TvZer. This guy was also one of the two non-zerg in a semi during swarm season, playing one of the best TvP ever against Bisu. Plus he was the best TvTer around in his prime.
On January 17 2011 20:17 Necosarius wrote: Why no FBH ?! T_T
Because the Berserker is a fucking legend.
Not as much of a legend as FBH IMO.
Iris has played my two favorite TvZ ever, and my favorite TvP. He's awesome.
FBH has played 2 of my favourite TvZs ever (vs Savior on Python and vs JD in that BC game) and he has performed more awesome ceremonies than any other human being alive. And his TvP is also legendary, in it's own little special way.
I'd say there both pretty equal, but Iris is older, and has gone deeper in SLs. He also has a history of choking, which makes me like him even more. I like both in fact, just saddens me you would not fully recognize Iris' awesomeness.
I never once said anything negative about Iris, and I never once said he wasn't a legend. All I said was that FBH was even more legendary. We are talking about a guy who smashed Savior in a Bo5 and humiliated him afterwards (which was well deserved considering what a douchebag Savior evidently was).
I reproach you your "No FBH ?", as though Iris making an appearance wass nothing. Plus I really disagree. Speaking about sAviOr, Iris took him to game 5 in a TvZ, and almost beat him in one of the greatest game ever, and that was at his peak, before Bisu 3-0ed him. One week after, sAviOr made Nada look like a bad TvZer. This guy was also one of the two non-zerg in a semi during swarm season, playing one of the best TvP ever against Bisu. Plus he was the best TvTer around in his prime.
I never said ''No FBH'', you got me mixed up with someone.
On January 17 2011 21:03 Holgerius wrote: I never said ''No FBH'', you got me mixed up with someone.
Sorry, thought your first post implied you agreed with that position. And my points still stands :p Well, anyway, FBH seems to be in a dire position :/
On January 17 2011 21:09 Necosarius wrote: Noo FBH don't lose T_T your TvT was so beastly, what happened?! ;_;
I'm pretty sure the opening was something like 14cc for baby and 1 rax cc for fbh, where baby rode the econ advantage to a small tank advantage which let him take a third that had a gas. Then with more dropships, more tanks, more goliaths he then double expanded. I'm pretty sure whether fbh's tvt being beastly or not doesn't come into such a huge disadvantage.
On January 17 2011 21:09 Necosarius wrote: Noo FBH don't lose T_T your TvT was so beastly, what happened?! ;_;
I'm pretty sure the opening was something like 14cc for baby and 1 rax cc for fbh, where baby rode the econ advantage to a small tank advantage which let him take a third that had a gas. Then with more dropships, more tanks, more goliaths he then double expanded. I'm pretty sure whether fbh's tvt being beastly or not doesn't come into such a huge disadvantage.
On January 17 2011 20:17 Necosarius wrote: Why no FBH ?! T_T
Because the Berserker is a fucking legend.
Not as much of a legend as FBH IMO.
Iris has played my two favorite TvZ ever, and my favorite TvP. He's awesome.
FBH has played 2 of my favourite TvZs ever (vs Savior on Python and vs JD in that BC game) and he has performed more awesome ceremonies than any other human being alive. And his TvP is also legendary, in it's own little special way.
I'd say there both pretty equal, but Iris is older, and has gone deeper in SLs. He also has a history of choking, which makes me like him even more. I like both in fact, just saddens me you would not fully recognize Iris' awesomeness.
I never once said anything negative about Iris, and I never once said he wasn't a legend. All I said was that FBH was even more legendary. We are talking about a guy who smashed Savior in a Bo5 and humiliated him afterwards (which was well deserved considering what a douchebag Savior evidently was).
Not to mention the OSL finals... FBH has never come close to any league finals/semi-finals/quarter-finals.
On January 17 2011 20:17 Necosarius wrote: Why no FBH ?! T_T
Because the Berserker is a fucking legend.
Not as much of a legend as FBH IMO.
Iris has played my two favorite TvZ ever, and my favorite TvP. He's awesome.
FBH has played 2 of my favourite TvZs ever (vs Savior on Python and vs JD in that BC game) and he has performed more awesome ceremonies than any other human being alive. And his TvP is also legendary, in it's own little special way.
I'd say there both pretty equal, but Iris is older, and has gone deeper in SLs. He also has a history of choking, which makes me like him even more. I like both in fact, just saddens me you would not fully recognize Iris' awesomeness.
I never once said anything negative about Iris, and I never once said he wasn't a legend. All I said was that FBH was even more legendary. We are talking about a guy who smashed Savior in a Bo5 and humiliated him afterwards (which was well deserved considering what a douchebag Savior evidently was).
Not to mention the OSL finals... FBH has never come close to any league finals/semi-finals/quarter-finals.
Except you are wrong; FBH played a semi-final vs Stork in MSL.
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