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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8115 Posts
December 26 2010 11:27 GMT
#1121
Lucky both time have excellent terran lineups.

Is it me or terran are slumping really fucking hard theses days? Leta plays shit, Flash is out everywhere, Fantasy is the shadow of what he was, Light ans Sea LOL, rookies like Ssak seems promising and then lose to Jaehoon...

Sad days to be a terran. Is it the map pool?
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Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
December 26 2010 11:37 GMT
#1122
Yep Terran lines "Ssak" these days but a win is a win for SKT. Fantasy doesn't perform well in this season's PL (he's like ~50% win rate).
by.Sun and Ssak are indeed promising and win more than lose in PL which is awesome for T1.
And putting Best into ACE was really ballsy cuz he isn't on his top form and even lost another game before ACE match but still coach decides to put Best instead of Bisu.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 11:56:38
December 26 2010 11:51 GMT
#1123
On December 26 2010 20:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Lucky both time have excellent terran lineups.

Is it me or terran are slumping really fucking hard theses days? Leta plays shit, Flash is out everywhere, Fantasy is the shadow of what he was, Light ans Sea LOL, rookies like Ssak seems promising and then lose to Jaehoon...

Sad days to be a terran. Is it the map pool?

It's hard to say whether Light is slumping or not because his TvP has always been bad and he's had no luck with match-ups. Jaehoon has only lost one PvT this season and that was to a Bogus bunker rush. So Ssak just had a bad day.

But Sea, Flash, Fantasy and Hiya are all slumping.

In Sea's case, I don't think it's the map pool. He was playing well until he lost to Shine twice. So it's probably just a lack of confidence right now.
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kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
December 26 2010 11:58 GMT
#1124
It isn't the map pool because Terran also lost in maps like Fortress and Grandline.
There is a problem with Terrans of both teams imo : SKT Terrans were out-expanded every time (bad macro maybe) and MBC Terrans lost due to holes in the defense line (bad positioning).
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L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
December 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#1125
On December 26 2010 20:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Lucky both time have excellent terran lineups.

Is it me or terran are slumping really fucking hard theses days? Leta plays shit, Flash is out everywhere, Fantasy is the shadow of what he was, Light ans Sea LOL, rookies like Ssak seems promising and then lose to Jaehoon...

Sad days to be a terran. Is it the map pool?


Well, terran are slumping really fucking hard for a couple of years already. Name one terran which acomplished something in the past seasons. Hm? Nobody except Flash of course. Then it's only logical that when Flash fails, there's nobody to step in.
nurle
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
December 26 2010 12:35 GMT
#1126
Bisu and best <3333
Jaedong fucking beast
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 26 2010 15:49 GMT
#1127
Lol 5 protoss wins in a row... xD
:)
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
December 26 2010 16:01 GMT
#1128
Dang it, I have Bisu and Best's interview all translated and ready to go, but can't post a new topic because I'm a new member. FFS ==;;

Anybody willing to make a new thread so I can post it as a comment? Pretty please? You know you want to see Bisu in a Santa suit. XD
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
December 26 2010 16:11 GMT
#1129
On December 27 2010 01:01 Spica wrote:
Dang it, I have Bisu and Best's interview all translated and ready to go, but can't post a new topic because I'm a new member. FFS ==;;

Anybody willing to make a new thread so I can post it as a comment? Pretty please? You know you want to see Bisu in a Santa suit. XD


I'll make a thread.
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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
December 26 2010 16:13 GMT
#1130
I'll make a thread.
Thank you BLinD-RawR for seeing my cry out for help- It seems that there are heroes left in this world. 8D
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 16:14:38
December 26 2010 16:14 GMT
#1131
On December 27 2010 01:01 Spica wrote:
Dang it, I have Bisu and Best's interview all translated and ready to go, but can't post a new topic because I'm a new member. FFS ==;;

Anybody willing to make a new thread so I can post it as a comment? Pretty please? You know you want to see Bisu in a Santa suit. XD

What?! This is a travesty!
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 26 2010 16:20 GMT
#1132
On December 26 2010 20:37 Hazard wrote:
Yep Terran lines "Ssak" these days but a win is a win for SKT. Fantasy doesn't perform well in this season's PL (he's like ~50% win rate).
by.Sun and Ssak are indeed promising and win more than lose in PL which is awesome for T1.
And putting Best into ACE was really ballsy cuz he isn't on his top form and even lost another game before ACE match but still coach decides to put Best instead of Bisu.


How is it ballsy? Sending Best to play a team basically made up by two terrans, one who is slumping heavily and another who is just really bad at TvP, is the RIGHT decision always because its the single matchup he can actually play.

Macro and 1a2a3a at the right time and angles is the easiest thing for guys like Stork and Best to do against weaker TvPers. MBC had to win before the ACE match because no one on their team can deal with a protoss right now.
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 16:41:35
December 26 2010 16:40 GMT
#1133
On December 26 2010 20:37 Hazard wrote:
Yep Terran lines "Ssak" these days but a win is a win for SKT. Fantasy doesn't perform well in this season's PL (he's like ~50% win rate).
by.Sun and Ssak are indeed promising and win more than lose in PL which is awesome for T1.
And putting Best into ACE was really ballsy cuz he isn't on his top form and even lost another game before ACE match but still coach decides to put Best instead of Bisu.


mbc doesn't have a legit zerg to send out, worst case scenario is a toss but i'd think best is still easily favored every time.

And mbc can't really send a zerg to snipe anyways since skt's other two ace choices would steamroll them.

mbc pretty much has to send light/sea, more so the latter since the former is bad vs p. Best is proably the best vT on skt atm.




----


and stop slumping fanta
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 17:38:15
December 26 2010 17:29 GMT
#1134
On December 27 2010 01:20 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 20:37 Hazard wrote:
Yep Terran lines "Ssak" these days but a win is a win for SKT. Fantasy doesn't perform well in this season's PL (he's like ~50% win rate).
by.Sun and Ssak are indeed promising and win more than lose in PL which is awesome for T1.
And putting Best into ACE was really ballsy cuz he isn't on his top form and even lost another game before ACE match but still coach decides to put Best instead of Bisu.


How is it ballsy? Sending Best to play a team basically made up by two terrans, one who is slumping heavily and another who is just really bad at TvP, is the RIGHT decision always because its the single matchup he can actually play.

Macro and 1a2a3a at the right time and angles is the easiest thing for guys like Stork and Best to do against weaker TvPers. MBC had to win before the ACE match because no one on their team can deal with a protoss right now.

They could have sent Tyson, his PvP form is good, having beaten Shuttle, Pure and Stats recently. He also beat Best on Grandline SE last season. But usually Sea is the one who practices this map for Ace.

Edit:
Actually MBC is not just a Terran team anymore. Light+Sea = 20 wins in proleague. Jaehoon+Tyson = 19 wins in proleague.
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RoyaleBrainSlug
Profile Joined December 2010
United States295 Posts
December 26 2010 17:33 GMT
#1135
wow not a single terran won, that says something about the maps or the players... i really dont think ssak is worse than jaehoon, nor is fantasy worse than tyson...
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 17:43:57
December 26 2010 17:42 GMT
#1136
SKT winning at last.
Best as always terran killer.
Sun shines more than shine today
Fanta needs put his shit together if he want to play a significant role in OSL.
S2 solid as always.
Bisu won...not surprising
The rest deserve only silence


GW SKT
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 26 2010 18:28 GMT
#1137
On December 27 2010 02:33 RoyaleBrainSlug wrote:
wow not a single terran won, that says something about the maps or the players... i really dont think ssak is worse than jaehoon, nor is fantasy worse than tyson...

Right now, definitely not. Fantasy is undergoing a R5 Bisu-esque decision-making crisis. So he's losing really badly to everyone.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 26 2010 18:50 GMT
#1138
I really think that Fantasy still got the macro and unit control to be a top terran but he seems to be "doing a bit of everything and a lot of nothing".
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 26 2010 19:50 GMT
#1139
On December 27 2010 01:20 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 20:37 Hazard wrote:
Yep Terran lines "Ssak" these days but a win is a win for SKT. Fantasy doesn't perform well in this season's PL (he's like ~50% win rate).
by.Sun and Ssak are indeed promising and win more than lose in PL which is awesome for T1.
And putting Best into ACE was really ballsy cuz he isn't on his top form and even lost another game before ACE match but still coach decides to put Best instead of Bisu.


How is it ballsy? Sending Best to play a team basically made up by two terrans, one who is slumping heavily and another who is just really bad at TvP, is the RIGHT decision always because its the single matchup he can actually play.

Macro and 1a2a3a at the right time and angles is the easiest thing for guys like Stork and Best to do against weaker TvPers. MBC had to win before the ACE match because no one on their team can deal with a protoss right now.


Yeah pretty much. I totally called it in the stream chat that SKT would send BeSt to counter an MBC Terran. Makes more sense sending BeSt when MBC was likely to send either Sea or Light rather than Bisu.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 26 2010 19:54 GMT
#1140
On December 27 2010 01:20 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 20:37 Hazard wrote:
Yep Terran lines "Ssak" these days but a win is a win for SKT. Fantasy doesn't perform well in this season's PL (he's like ~50% win rate).
by.Sun and Ssak are indeed promising and win more than lose in PL which is awesome for T1.
And putting Best into ACE was really ballsy cuz he isn't on his top form and even lost another game before ACE match but still coach decides to put Best instead of Bisu.


How is it ballsy? Sending Best to play a team basically made up by two terrans, one who is slumping heavily and another who is just really bad at TvP, is the RIGHT decision always because its the single matchup he can actually play.

Macro and 1a2a3a at the right time and angles is the easiest thing for guys like Stork and Best to do against weaker TvPers. MBC had to win before the ACE match because no one on their team can deal with a protoss right now.

you make it seem like Best and Stork's PvT aren't anything special lol
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