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Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
December 22 2010 17:44 GMT
#1541
Wooooot! Flash lost again :o
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
December 22 2010 18:02 GMT
#1542
Flash just being nice to other players by not hogging all the championships for himself. j/k -- who wouldn't want to get the first platinum mouse?
ISighZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States270 Posts
December 22 2010 18:08 GMT
#1543
Flash realized he broke the game so he should lose in order to keep E-Sports alive. I hope I aren't the only one who think Starcraft suddenly become a tad dull when Flash dominates everything. He'll destroy everyone when Starcraft is lively again.
There is no one to help you unless you help yourself
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 18:41:36
December 22 2010 18:40 GMT
#1544
If this has been posted already, sorry. Ro16 OSL Vods are up on OGN's website. http://www.ongamenet.com/broadcasting/tpl/leagueVod.ogn?leagueId=bcs2010&mIdx=9049

Edit: Although this group hasn't been posted, check back to see when they do. I know I will to see Hyuk vs Flash.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 18:41:12
December 22 2010 18:41 GMT
#1545
Maybe Flash will buy a wig, pay Paralyze to go to a strip club for a day or something, and beat Kal offrace :D

:D
...
*cries*
:)
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
December 22 2010 18:49 GMT
#1546
On December 23 2010 00:44 infinity2k9 wrote:
Lol at Flash. Try building something other than turrets. He killed his own eco with them. You could blame spot abuse but everyone was creaming over Flash spot abusing the shit out of BeSt last game so meh, what goes around comes around. It wasn't even the worst position, that would have been 6.

For the price he put down all those turrets he could have put bunker in key positions and use the extra mins for more rines. The valk was also way too late to make any difference, so i don't understand why he took so long to get it out. He can't blame any surprises happening either, the build coming was obvious considering the positions... you just don't need to build an extra 8 turrets in a big line in front of your paltry 2rax, and you don't need 3 extra in your main min line when rines can cover it.

I'm sure some people are going to come out with the excuses that there was nothing he could do but it was all his fault in that game, no doubt about it. What was his gameplan going midgame with only 2rax, one valk and 2 vultures? but 20 turrets? I guess going to that extreme worked for him in that other game on the twilight map, forget who it was against. But here it just looked downright stupid. He put HIMSELF into an unwinable position against HyuK who simply had to play standard and not over-extend himself.

He did the same thing (i mean 150 thousands of turrets) vs Modesty, and it paid off. :D
Also, he seemed to be afraid of a 4 pool indeed, when he did that 8rax. Though, it's only now that I've noticed the natural can be walled with 2depot+rax. -____
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 19:45:33
December 22 2010 19:42 GMT
#1547
God damn.

I just saw the VOD. Hyuk played his ass off in that game. So scary. Nothing Flash could do.

I dont get people who want Flash to slump. I want other players to step up and challenge Flash at the level he has shown this last year.

This should be a massive confidence boost for hyuk. If he can apply his APM and refine his game sense id love to see him play more.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
December 22 2010 19:59 GMT
#1548
Honestly, it looked like Flash played very poorly. THAT many turrets? And then switch to mech? Seems like he was pretty screwed after that. Medic and marine + valkyries could have countered the mutas just fine. Though I think his plan was to go early mech all along - I don't know. Props to Hyuk for bringing the realness back to SC. Showing the world he's still a contender. Well played and best of luck in the Ro8!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
December 22 2010 20:36 GMT
#1549
Is it only me? I just saw the Hyuk vs Flash VOD and it was... hilarious. It was like Flash was losing on purpose? He had 10 marines and 4 medics on the 10th minute? It was like a D+ terran playing Hyuk. What the heck was this weird 2 rax build? No vessels? Mines? ZOMG
LOL! Hyuk had no drones on his third?
Flash returns...
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 22 2010 20:44 GMT
#1550
Basically, Hyuk played like a Jaedong that game(because he's the next Jaedong), and Flash played like he was playing some noobie. He went 8 rax against 2 hatch muta, got hurt kinda bad. He probably was hoping Hyuk was all-in on mutas, but he wasn't. After Hyuk was hive tech there was really nothing Flash could do, Hyuk managed to push his big advantage into a win.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 22 2010 21:02 GMT
#1551
Just saw the vod, flash had 21 turrets and was still adding more 9 minutes into the game
USAMO
Profile Joined May 2010
United States12 Posts
December 22 2010 21:17 GMT
#1552
favorite progamers are ssak, classic, and hyuk.

That game was very 1 sided.
I'm doing math. Please don't disturb.
Maks
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine167 Posts
December 22 2010 21:57 GMT
#1553
Good games, especially the first one :-) Hyuk totally made my day!
Kim "ZerO" Myung Woon: I think that there is no way to beat a good Terran as Zerg. This is mainly because good mutalisk micro just cannot beat good marine-medic micro.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
December 22 2010 21:59 GMT
#1554
LoL Flash and Stork lost...

So I was wondering in Stork's group is there a possibilty for a tiebreak? I only know Stork is 2-1 but I forgot the the other players results.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
December 22 2010 22:00 GMT
#1555
Hyuk did not do anything special or play beyond the means of any average zerg lets get out the way please... he controlled 2 groups of mutas for about 10 seconds and thats the only impressive part i saw. He played standard and reacted well to the situation, the extremely stupid situation created by Flash. Hyuk's play shouldn't take the focus of the game that Flash played, which was just terrible. Saying he did anything special is just crazy bias or something.

The only possible build that would have worked against is Jaedong's all-in muta, and i think even then he could have bruteforced his way in somewhere like he usually does. But no one else ever even plays games like that (cause JD loses doing it sometimes annd looks silly), what gave him the impression that would even work? And once he had built the turrets, why did he continue to poke his mnm out of the front and slowly lose any mass he was gaining? If you're gonna turtle then you better have something impressive building up behind that turret line. I really cannot comprehend his usually-impeccable decision making there, it's madness.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 22:04:37
December 22 2010 22:02 GMT
#1556
Lol, it's amazing how Flash's pre-game cockiness nowadays comes back to bite him in the ass.

If you watch the VOD, at about 0:47 they start showing what both players said before the game. Hyuk says "I'll win, since it's KT", but Flash says "Paralysis fighting!". The commentators say that it's supposed to mean that since he'll defeat Hyuk, Paralysis will have to win his remaining game in order for Hyuk to advance. And now it really is "Paralysis fighting" for Flash, just not the way he thought it would be. ^____^

(Edited for spelling.)
Brood War is alive and well.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
December 22 2010 22:14 GMT
#1557
On December 23 2010 06:59 SkelA wrote:
LoL Flash and Stork lost...

So I was wondering in Stork's group is there a possibilty for a tiebreak? I only know Stork is 2-1 but I forgot the the other players results.

If Mind wins against Sea, there will be a tiebreak between Stork, Shine and Mind with 2 players advancing. If Mind loses, Stork and Shine advance.
Sumsi
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany593 Posts
December 22 2010 22:16 GMT
#1558
On December 23 2010 06:59 SkelA wrote:
LoL Flash and Stork lost...

So I was wondering in Stork's group is there a possibilty for a tiebreak? I only know Stork is 2-1 but I forgot the the other players results.


Stork 2-1
Shine 2-1
Mind 1-1
Sea 0-2

so when Mind wins against Sea we get a tiebreaker between Stork, Shine and Mind I guess
moin
Sumsi
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany593 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 22:18:37
December 22 2010 22:18 GMT
#1559
just watched the vods
looks like Hydra owns the "ggaemo Hydras vs. Mines Challenge Cup" now

and Flash vs Hyuk, don't know what to say, there is no scientific explanation for this
moin
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 22 2010 22:21 GMT
#1560

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