EPT[SPL] Hwaseung OZ vs KT Rolster - Page 33
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
Hell, KT is gonna own this season again.. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
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Toadily
United States837 Posts
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On October 19 2010 22:18 SubtleArt wrote: PvT: 8-1 this year O_O Sea <3 Maybe this is the season of TvP imba, after the last season of TvZ imba, and the season before that of ZvP imba? Probably not, since Flash is always around to make TvP look ridiculously Terran-favored. | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On October 20 2010 01:55 matjlav wrote: Sea <3 Maybe this is the season of TvP imba, after the last season of TvZ imba, and the season before that of ZvP imba? Probably not, since Flash is always around to make TvP look ridiculously Terran-favored. The "season" of TvP imba can hardly be called a season if you compare it to years of TvZ and ZvP imba. | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On October 19 2010 15:56 prototype. wrote: lol. It's funny when perfectman wins. I hope no one takes my ratings too seriously, I don't really give much thought to games i don't care much about. In the recommended games section, you listed out 7 games when only 6 games were played + Show Spoiler + Unplayed games will be given a random rating to avoid spoiling how many sets were played. This is very confusing, so how do we know which ratings referred to the real games? | ||
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prototype.
Canada4189 Posts
On October 19 2010 17:42 Vasoline73 wrote: How do games 4 and 5 get 5 stars? Fine... i'll change game 5  I still think game 4 deserved 5 or at least 4 stars. Flash just played amazingly that game. If only hiya could keep up, it would have been an epic tvt. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
This Sky guy is worth watching, too. He could be at least decent. All in all, though, it was classic Oz. The new format is going to destroy them. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On October 20 2010 02:04 lastmotion wrote: The "season" of TvP imba can hardly be called a season if you compare it to years of TvZ and ZvP imba. ?? PvT has always favored Terran. Even with the Terran bonjwas, their TvZ was always far stronger than their TvP. People seem to forget how underwhelming Boxer's TvP was. That and the 2007-2008 season was a horrendous for Terran players vs Protoss, more than ZvP imba season or last year's TvZ imba | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On October 20 2010 02:04 lastmotion wrote: In the recommended games section, you listed out 7 games when only 6 games were played + Show Spoiler + Unplayed games will be given a random rating to avoid spoiling how many sets were played. This is very confusing, so how do we know which ratings referred to the real games? Well, presumably the played games are the ones where the ratings are real. If there were five games played then ratings for 1 2 3 4 5 are real and 6 and 7 are not. This is about as straightforward as it gets, how do you find it confusing? | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Oz B-teamers can go try their luck at GSL. I bet Jesus will make a killing there. Less BW around, but since there is the GSL, E-sport is not hurting. Only if Kespa and Gretech can reach a compromise. | ||
mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On October 20 2010 10:06 dukethegold wrote: Just disband Oz, and split Jaedong and Hiya in some other team lol. More competitive that way. Oz B-teamers can go try their luck at GSL. I bet Jesus will make a killing there. Less BW around, but since there is the GSL, E-sport is not hurting. Only if Kespa and Gretech can reach a compromise. ... I can't stand statements like this. The new players are improving and the experience they are getting is invaluable. And from what we saw this game, Oz is still competitive. It's been a bloody week. Give it a rest. | ||
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cognizantfire
Hong Kong77 Posts
but yay for perfectman finally winning a game! it's been a long time! | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Firstly Killer's decision making is very strange, he had a tendancy to only go for small engagements and attack at inappropriate times. I realize guards make sense on that map defensively but if he waited and macro'd up enough ultra/ling he could have won fairly quickly. Then he slowly got further and further behind with small engagements he couldn't win. On the plus side his swarm/plague usage seems amazing and i love his use of just small groups to go out and cast spells on the T ball with. That and his vessel sniping looked JD esque at times. Definitely potential there for sure. Sky[Kal] I was also impressed with despite his loss, through midgame he was constantly using some clever ideas that a lesser zerg would have fallen apart immediately too... the DT drop in main to make Action maynard into storm at natural was genius. Pulled off some great storms just when needed, good army control. Unfortunately protoss immobility really messed him up. I think maybe sair/reaver would be more suited to him so he could ignore his expos more and focus on his clever harassment. Real shame he had Action but seeing a toss PvZ like that gives me some hope at least. Jaedong well, was Jaedong. After a bad early game muta/scourge attack on the main underestimating the number of sairs, he remained on the defensive for a long time. Yet still Stats never even looked close to controlling the game. His map awareness, crazy drop defense, insane defiler usage (how many plagues went off this game?) and huge amount of lings looked like he was just playing with Stats until he eventually decided to build a control group of ultras and win. Normally a Protoss ball macroing from so many bases is supposed to be feared, here it didn't even look close to scary. Also of note is the same tactic as killer of using small ling/defiler groups solely to pull off good plagues. After early game i thought he might be getting a bit sloppy but he's looking sharper than ever imo. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On October 20 2010 10:06 dukethegold wrote: Just disband Oz, and split Jaedong and Hiya in some other team lol. More competitive that way. Oz B-teamers can go try their luck at GSL. I bet Jesus will make a killing there. Less BW around, but since there is the GSL, E-sport is not hurting. Only if Kespa and Gretech can reach a compromise. lol if it was up to you and we disbanded any team that has had a string of bad seasons then we probably wouldn't have more than 4 teams left in the proleague...Estro, Hite, Samsung, Woonjin, and MBC all would have been disbanded at some point in the last 10 years with this reasoning. Oz hasn't even been struggling that long, they reached the proleague finals only 2 years ago. In short, your opinions are uninformed bullshit. Please fix this before posting | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On October 22 2010 11:55 SubtleArt wrote: lol if it was up to you and we disbanded any team that has had a string of bad seasons then we probably wouldn't have more than 4 teams left in the proleague...Estro, Hite, Samsung, Woonjin, and MBC all would have been disbanded at some point in the last 10 years with this reasoning. Oz hasn't even been struggling that long, they reached the proleague finals only 2 years ago. In short, your opinions are uninformed bullshit. Please fix this before posting To be honest, eSTRO is the one team that really looked like it would be disbanded eventually(until hite was gutted). They never really made it far, ever, mostly because of awful management. But Oz has suffered through worse, and then they got Jaedong. There's no reason they can't raise another ace, Hiya looks like he's improving and Lomo might still have his skill from before somewhere. Keep in mind SKT was awful for a few years too, and look at them now. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On October 22 2010 12:24 Lightwip wrote: To be honest, eSTRO is the one team that really looked like it would be disbanded eventually(until hite was gutted). They never really made it far, ever, mostly because of awful management. But Oz has suffered through worse, and then they got Jaedong. There's no reason they can't raise another ace, Hiya looks like he's improving and Lomo might still have his skill from before somewhere. Keep in mind SKT was awful for a few years too, and look at them now. Yea. Khan, MBC, and Hite have all had worse performances than Oz. Suggesting Oz disband is just stupid. Like I said, this team reached the proleague finals 2 years ago and they still have an in form jaedong and a solid, developing core on a good day. | ||
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