On September 03 2010 19:38 Phrujbaz wrote: Free didn't choke. This is a world class protoss and it shows in everything. Flash exploited the carriers perfectly - it seems you need some kind of early game advantage to have a chance against flash. In this game, the reaver opening put Free behind when it didn't do enough damage.
Well, especially when you lose the first reaver to tanks and vultures despite having a shuttle nearby...
On September 03 2010 19:37 sAAvior wrote: Protoss is very weak against Flash because there aren't enough cheeses possible With zerg you can try to pull a lot of different cheese but here ? Just hopeless...
You gan proxy double, 10/15, and bulldog. Those are all cheeses that can work.
I can't even remember the last time Flash lost to a proxy double. In fact, how often does it work vs a solid terran in general?
Would like to see more bulldog though. Reach-style!
On September 03 2010 19:38 insanet wrote: guys, stop living in the past. Jangbi top form is never coming back. Bisu is never coming back. Kal is another jangbi.
Even Jangbi back in top-form would get slaughtered by Flash in a BO5 right now. Flash has Protoss completely figured out and can exploit any timing window that he is given.
No. It's just that all the current 'top' protoss suck. Stork and Best are the only ones that don't at PvT.
free already looks defeated as the players set up for game 3. Flash takes a drink of pocari sweat (bottle again?) and holds it in his mouth for awhile...
On September 03 2010 19:37 sAAvior wrote: Protoss is very weak against Flash because there aren't enough cheeses possible With zerg you can try to pull a lot of different cheese but here ? Just hopeless...
wooooot??? quite enough, why not proxy??? why not hidden robo??? why not improvise for Christ ssake, why do all who play Flash seem so eager to outplay him in a standard game? even Jae, macro macro macro, Why not try something different, nobody tried so far, well, Effort did), and that worked like a miracle. Am I right?
Guys, the problem is not in protoss and in the fact that Bisu or Stork or Jangbi is not coming back, cant you see that even the other zergs and the terrans cannot get in par with jaedong and flash and TvT and ZvZ there are not racial imbalances, the problem is not in the protoss, the problem is that there is no one else out there who is even close to jaedong and especially Flash's level.
On September 03 2010 19:37 sAAvior wrote: Protoss is very weak against Flash because there aren't enough cheeses possible With zerg you can try to pull a lot of different cheese but here ? Just hopeless...
You gan proxy double, 10/15, and bulldog. Those are all cheeses that can work.
I can't even remember the last time Flash lost to a proxy double. In fact, how often does it work vs a solid terran in general?
Would like to see more bulldog though. Reach-style!
Proxy double only really works on a map that favors it. Which is not one with a ramp.
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