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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
September 03 2010 10:41 GMT
#621
On September 03 2010 19:38 Phrujbaz wrote:
Free didn't choke. This is a world class protoss and it shows in everything. Flash exploited the carriers perfectly - it seems you need some kind of early game advantage to have a chance against flash. In this game, the reaver opening put Free behind when it didn't do enough damage.


Well, especially when you lose the first reaver to tanks and vultures despite having a shuttle nearby...

That was a pretty huge blunder.
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sAAvior
Profile Joined July 2007
Poland248 Posts
September 03 2010 10:41 GMT
#622
What is "bulldog" ?
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
September 03 2010 10:41 GMT
#623
On September 03 2010 19:39 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 19:37 sAAvior wrote:
Protoss is very weak against Flash because there aren't enough cheeses possible
With zerg you can try to pull a lot of different cheese but here ? Just hopeless...

You gan proxy double, 10/15, and bulldog. Those are all cheeses that can work.


I can't even remember the last time Flash lost to a proxy double. In fact, how often does it work vs a solid terran in general?

Would like to see more bulldog though. Reach-style!
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 03 2010 10:41 GMT
#624
On September 03 2010 19:40 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 19:38 insanet wrote:
guys, stop living in the past.
Jangbi top form is never coming back.
Bisu is never coming back.
Kal is another jangbi.



Even Jangbi back in top-form would get slaughtered by Flash in a BO5 right now. Flash has Protoss completely figured out and can exploit any timing window that he is given.

No.
It's just that all the current 'top' protoss suck. Stork and Best are the only ones that don't at PvT.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9436 Posts
September 03 2010 10:41 GMT
#625
On September 03 2010 19:40 cascades wrote:
Sigh, I see Free's glistening teary face despite being only 2-0 down. Mental toughness pls.

only 2-0 down....yeap ...indeed, he may come back
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#626
Reverse your fortunes, free! Let's take 3 consecutive games... pretty please?
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#627
free already looks defeated as the players set up for game 3.
Flash takes a drink of pocari sweat (bottle again?) and holds it in his mouth for awhile...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#628
On September 03 2010 19:41 sAAvior wrote:
What is "bulldog" ?


Roughly, agressive opening that involves quick shuttle with zealots to drop behind the wall and then engage in the front as well.

Reach used to do it alot vs Terrans when he was in Acec
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#629
On September 03 2010 19:37 sAAvior wrote:
Protoss is very weak against Flash because there aren't enough cheeses possible
With zerg you can try to pull a lot of different cheese but here ? Just hopeless...

wooooot??? quite enough, why not proxy??? why not hidden robo??? why not improvise for Christ ssake, why do all who play Flash seem so eager to outplay him in a standard game? even Jae, macro macro macro, Why not try something different, nobody tried so far, well, Effort did), and that worked like a miracle. Am I right?
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#630
CHEESE
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#631
It's polaris rhapsody!
Starring:
Free as the golden protoss at 11.
Flash as the terran at 5.

Free sends out a very early probe
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#632
CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#633
Guys, the problem is not in protoss and in the fact that Bisu or Stork or Jangbi is not coming back, cant you see that even the other zergs and the terrans cannot get in par with jaedong and flash and TvT and ZvZ there are not racial imbalances, the problem is not in the protoss, the problem is that there is no one else out there who is even close to jaedong and especially Flash's level.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#634
LOL HERE IT COMES
just here
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#635
Cheese incoming.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 03 2010 10:43 GMT
#636
On September 03 2010 19:41 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 19:39 Lightwip wrote:
On September 03 2010 19:37 sAAvior wrote:
Protoss is very weak against Flash because there aren't enough cheeses possible
With zerg you can try to pull a lot of different cheese but here ? Just hopeless...

You gan proxy double, 10/15, and bulldog. Those are all cheeses that can work.


I can't even remember the last time Flash lost to a proxy double. In fact, how often does it work vs a solid terran in general?

Would like to see more bulldog though. Reach-style!

Proxy double only really works on a map that favors it. Which is not one with a ramp.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
September 03 2010 10:43 GMT
#637
lol did i hear lee jae dong hwaiting vs lee young ho hwaiting?
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
September 03 2010 10:43 GMT
#638
On September 03 2010 19:41 sAAvior wrote:
What is "bulldog" ?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bulldog_(vs._Terran)
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
hype[NZ]
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Japan412 Posts
September 03 2010 10:43 GMT
#639
PROBUUUU YEAHHHH this is going to be great
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
September 03 2010 10:43 GMT
#640
When all else fails, resort to..
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
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