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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 11 2010 10:04 GMT
#261
On August 11 2010 18:59 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:58 baubo wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:52 onewingedmoogle wrote:
lesson learned, build ur robotic inside ur main.


Umm, it's standard to build the robo bay at the natural in PvZ. What I find it weird is why Bisu didn't add cannons earlier when he had the scouting info.

Yeah he waited very late I mean his corsairs saw them moving so I don't know why he delayed so much. His building placement in his nat were also very tight, didn't look like he could put many cannons down.

He very clearly expected (Z)EffOrt to spend a longer time defending his overlords. But EffOrt just rushed to speed, and then brought his ovies with him, or sent them randomly around the map. He was getting two cannons at the time of the attack, which probably would've saved him.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
August 11 2010 10:04 GMT
#262
Effort what a fag

Happy that Flash proxied you out of that Starleague now.
#1 Terran hater
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 11 2010 10:04 GMT
#263
Hyuk gets the chubby "stargirl".
Zero just resting (or praying?), while Hyuk is loading up brood war.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 11 2010 10:05 GMT
#264
@Skytom I thought he had 2 cannons already, and then tried to warp in a third and fourth and got caught. Even so I doubt that would have won him the game because Effort had an absolute monster amount of Hydras pouring in.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 11 2010 10:05 GMT
#265
Effag

:/
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
August 11 2010 10:05 GMT
#266
On August 11 2010 19:03 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 19:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:59 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:57 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:56 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:55 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:54 raga4ka wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...

yea, bullshit zerg players like effort and shine should win more often cause they can 5 hatch hydra


Every fucking zerg 5 hatches nowadays what are you talking about.

And comparing EffOrt to Shine rofl. Then Bisu is like...Chalrenge..

sorry shine would've never lost that drone in the beginning


Yeah and chalrenge would last more than 10 minutes against EffOrt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&vs=581&league=any&map=any&from_year=2005&from_month=9&from_day=28&to_year=2010&to_month=8&to_day=7&action=Update

but I guess he should win a game sometime so its fine, even yellow beat bisu once


Those games are more than a year old. EffOrt has a 71% ZvP, welcome to 2010!

look at his stats back in 2009, Im sure they were even more impressive


EffOrt's? http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=P&league=any&map=any&from_year=2007&from_month=8&from_day=20&to_year=2009&to_month=5&to_day=5&action=Update

He was 58% back then. Didn't got into leagues. He's 71.XX% ZvP now.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 11 2010 10:06 GMT
#267
Wonder if Leta will try his best...both Effort and Bisu's chance at tiebreakers depends on him.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
August 11 2010 10:06 GMT
#268
On August 11 2010 19:04 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:59 Hyde wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:58 baubo wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:52 onewingedmoogle wrote:
lesson learned, build ur robotic inside ur main.


Umm, it's standard to build the robo bay at the natural in PvZ. What I find it weird is why Bisu didn't add cannons earlier when he had the scouting info.

Yeah he waited very late I mean his corsairs saw them moving so I don't know why he delayed so much. His building placement in his nat were also very tight, didn't look like he could put many cannons down.

He very clearly expected (Z)EffOrt to spend a longer time defending his overlords. But EffOrt just rushed to speed, and then brought his ovies with him, or sent them randomly around the map. He was getting two cannons at the time of the attack, which probably would've saved him.

Effort ran his ovies to the top left corner of the map, and Bisu didn't expect him to leave them defenseless up in that corner; and Bisu had one Cannon up and one warping. The space at the nat was could have added one or two cannons, but they were warped in too late to do much if anything.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 10:08:27
August 11 2010 10:07 GMT
#269
On August 11 2010 19:03 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 19:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:59 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:57 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:56 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:55 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:54 raga4ka wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...

yea, bullshit zerg players like effort and shine should win more often cause they can 5 hatch hydra


Every fucking zerg 5 hatches nowadays what are you talking about.

And comparing EffOrt to Shine rofl. Then Bisu is like...Chalrenge..

sorry shine would've never lost that drone in the beginning


Yeah and chalrenge would last more than 10 minutes against EffOrt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&vs=581&league=any&map=any&from_year=2005&from_month=9&from_day=28&to_year=2010&to_month=8&to_day=7&action=Update

but I guess he should win a game sometime so its fine, even yellow beat bisu once


Those games are more than a year old. EffOrt has a 71% ZvP, welcome to 2010!

look at his stats back in 2009, Im sure they were even more impressive
(88.89%)

88.89?? O_O they were more like 67%
ok IntoTheWow's time frame is probably better for the time during which bisu beat effort
beep boop
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 11 2010 10:07 GMT
#270
The battle takes place in the Eye of the Storm!

Hyuk the purple FA zerg at 5.
Zero the null red zerg at 1.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 11 2010 10:07 GMT
#271
On August 11 2010 18:59 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:58 baubo wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:52 onewingedmoogle wrote:
lesson learned, build ur robotic inside ur main.


Umm, it's standard to build the robo bay at the natural in PvZ. What I find it weird is why Bisu didn't add cannons earlier when he had the scouting info.

Yeah he waited very late I mean his corsairs saw them moving so I don't know why he delayed so much. His building placement in his nat were also very tight, didn't look like he could put many cannons down.


Now that you say that, I think it's true. But if so, his decision to go 2-stargate makes less sense, unless he was expecting to kill gazillion ovies before Effort could macro up. But if so, then that would've been a very dangerous build to execute, because he'd be screwed if he failed as demonstrated in the game. No reason to do so, especially when he's ahead given that drone kill.
Meh
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 11 2010 10:07 GMT
#272
Both OL's heading in the correct direction.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
August 11 2010 10:07 GMT
#273
On August 11 2010 19:06 Zona wrote:
Wonder if Leta will try his best...both Effort and Bisu's chance at tiebreakers depends on him.


On August 11 2010 18:56 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Then again if Leta loses he might get Flash in RO8 (as he is Group A 2nd place), If he wins maybe Jaedong. Don't know which one is better.

disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
August 11 2010 10:07 GMT
#274
...perhaps
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
August 11 2010 10:08 GMT
#275
Well let's face it, either player is going to run Leta into the ground. Playing Flash is probably less painful since Leta is already rock solid at TvT.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
August 11 2010 10:08 GMT
#276
On August 11 2010 19:03 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 19:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:59 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:57 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:56 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:55 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:54 raga4ka wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...

yea, bullshit zerg players like effort and shine should win more often cause they can 5 hatch hydra


Every fucking zerg 5 hatches nowadays what are you talking about.

And comparing EffOrt to Shine rofl. Then Bisu is like...Chalrenge..

sorry shine would've never lost that drone in the beginning


Yeah and chalrenge would last more than 10 minutes against EffOrt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&vs=581&league=any&map=any&from_year=2005&from_month=9&from_day=28&to_year=2010&to_month=8&to_day=7&action=Update

but I guess he should win a game sometime so its fine, even yellow beat bisu once


Those games are more than a year old. EffOrt has a 71% ZvP, welcome to 2010!

look at his stats back in 2009, Im sure they were even more impressive
(88.89%)


His stats were not 88,9%, they were 58% ZvP. Where are you getting your numbers from? =/
Moderator<:3-/-<
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 11 2010 10:08 GMT
#277
OL's pass each other at 3

both players going for pool first, Hyuk's earlier
was it 9pool vs 12pool? I wasn't paying attention
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
August 11 2010 10:09 GMT
#278
On August 11 2010 19:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 19:06 Zona wrote:
Wonder if Leta will try his best...both Effort and Bisu's chance at tiebreakers depends on him.


Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:56 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Then again if Leta loses he might get Flash in RO8 (as he is Group A 2nd place), If he wins maybe Jaedong. Don't know which one is better.

Well Leta also has beaten both Bisu and Effort, so he is not afraid of them. Also Bisu and Effort could take out stronger competition. So it works both ways. Leta is going to try to win.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
August 11 2010 10:09 GMT
#279
On August 11 2010 19:08 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 19:03 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 19:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:59 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:57 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:56 IntoTheWow wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:55 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:54 raga4ka wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
[quote]
give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...

yea, bullshit zerg players like effort and shine should win more often cause they can 5 hatch hydra


Every fucking zerg 5 hatches nowadays what are you talking about.

And comparing EffOrt to Shine rofl. Then Bisu is like...Chalrenge..

sorry shine would've never lost that drone in the beginning


Yeah and chalrenge would last more than 10 minutes against EffOrt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&vs=581&league=any&map=any&from_year=2005&from_month=9&from_day=28&to_year=2010&to_month=8&to_day=7&action=Update

but I guess he should win a game sometime so its fine, even yellow beat bisu once


Those games are more than a year old. EffOrt has a 71% ZvP, welcome to 2010!

look at his stats back in 2009, Im sure they were even more impressive
(88.89%)


His stats were not 88,9%, they were 58% ZvP. Where are you getting your numbers from? =/

you actually linked me to his stats from 2008 and some games till May 2009 but whatever

Effort is the shit
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 11 2010 10:09 GMT
#280
effort had some big streak from iirc mid 09 to late 09, i cant remember the exact months
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