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miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
July 22 2010 01:31 GMT
#681
wow thanks a lot for ur incredible explanation men
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 22 2010 01:39 GMT
#682
On July 22 2010 10:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:40 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:29 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
free and Kals PvT is not as good as Bisus..

Storks PvT is pretty amazing but frees PvT never amazed me that much


Haha Free has the best current PvT man.


Sorry, but thats Snow...


Sorry Superarc, if Snow had the best PvT he wouldn't have been kicked out of the tournament by a terran while playing like trash. It'd be like me saying Stats has the best PvZ because he beat Effort and Zero recently, but got kicked out of the tournament by Hydra -- it's unfair to other players who've proven themselves to be consistent throughout the tournament thusfar.

You can say Snow has good PvT, but when he can't rely on his one clinch matchup to advance, then he's not the best.


Guess what, free got kicked out of the MSL by forgg TvP.
If you call that guy best PvT then no protoss has good PvT, you sometimes really use stupid logic

Everyone loses from time to time
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
July 22 2010 01:49 GMT
#683
I would guess FanTaSy would get out of his group 3-0...

FlaSh's group seems like it's the weakest, of course not because FlaSh is weak or anything, but I dunno... Group seems shaky...
twitch.tv/dizzywee
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
July 22 2010 01:49 GMT
#684
I hope someone on TL will translate the event like the MSL, love watching these with the trash talk translations beside it. :D
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 22 2010 01:50 GMT
#685
On July 22 2010 10:49 Anomarad wrote:
I hope someone on TL will translate the event like the MSL, love watching these with the trash talk translations beside it. :D


That's... what the whole thread was for lol
and waxangel's on the spot translations throughout the thread = hellarious
Hey! Listen!
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 01:54:58
July 22 2010 01:54 GMT
#686
On July 22 2010 10:50 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:49 Anomarad wrote:
I hope someone on TL will translate the event like the MSL, love watching these with the trash talk translations beside it. :D


That's... what the whole thread was for lol
and waxangel's on the spot translations throughout the thread = hellarious


I was hoping for a compiled thread, I don't know whats what with reading this thread.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
July 22 2010 01:56 GMT
#687
On July 22 2010 10:54 Anomarad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:50 Navi wrote:
On July 22 2010 10:49 Anomarad wrote:
I hope someone on TL will translate the event like the MSL, love watching these with the trash talk translations beside it. :D


That's... what the whole thread was for lol
and waxangel's on the spot translations throughout the thread = hellarious


I was hoping for a compiled thread, I don't know whats what with reading this thread.


It's not that hard.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 22 2010 01:59 GMT
#688
No protoss has consistently good PvT right now.

When I started watching SC in early 09 the clear answer was Bisu. In late 09 the clear answer was Stork. In early 2010 the clear answer was Kal (as much as Stork/Bisu fans would hate to admit it).

Now it's a toss-up between those 3, Free, and Snow, with none of them being able to churn out consistent wins against good Terrans.
Husmusen
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden92 Posts
July 22 2010 02:00 GMT
#689
Efforts group is the perfect little snackpack for him
Effort is the man Effort understands
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3478 Posts
July 22 2010 02:01 GMT
#690
Bisu v Effort will be interesting to see. A little retribution for SKT1vCJ ace match.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 02:34:37
July 22 2010 02:33 GMT
#691
I still say (P)BeSt has the best TvP. So he got zerged in the Ro36 and MST... it happens to every good Protoss sometimes. If he played a T he would have destroyed them. It's a shame his vZ is so mediocre because he could make a serious Starleague push again if he pulled it together.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 22 2010 03:01 GMT
#692
this is gonna beee sicccccccccck <3

TAEK BANG LEE SSANG
TAEK BANG LEE SSANG

image a Jaedong/Stork/Bisu/Flash OSL SEMIFINALS!
that would be sldkfjasdlkfjsda;lf
-nerdgasm-
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 03:05:13
July 22 2010 03:04 GMT
#693
Click on the "All" button and read through it all. I just did that, fun and entertaining read haha, thanks Wax .

I hope it becomes
Bisu, Effort
Flash, Zero
Jaedong, Sea
Stork, fantasy

And then Taekbangleessang all win their Ro8 matches. Then

Flash vs. Stork
Bisu vs. Jaedong

semifinals

omgasm
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
July 22 2010 03:10 GMT
#694
On July 22 2010 11:33 Crisium wrote:
I still say (P)BeSt has the best TvP. So he got zerged in the Ro36 and MST... it happens to every good Protoss sometimes. If he played a T he would have destroyed them. It's a shame his vZ is so mediocre because he could make a serious Starleague push again if he pulled it together.

Id say his PvT is the most consistent especially once he can get his macro groove on. He'd be an OSL champ by now had he not run into July in EVER 08 OSL.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8132 Posts
July 22 2010 03:13 GMT
#695
A: Action, Bisu
B: Flash HiyA
C: Pure Jaedong
D: Kal Fantasy
Free Palestine
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 03:40:54
July 22 2010 03:40 GMT
#696
My final 8:
Effort
Bisu
Flash
Zero
Pure
Jaedong
Kal
Fantasy

you'll notice it contradicts my sig
serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 22 2010 04:04 GMT
#697
On July 22 2010 12:04 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Click on the "All" button and read through it all. I just did that, fun and entertaining read haha, thanks Wax .

I hope it becomes
Bisu, Effort
Flash, Zero
Jaedong, Sea
Stork, fantasy

And then Taekbangleessang all win their Ro8 matches. Then

Flash vs. Stork
Bisu vs. Jaedong

semifinals

omgasm

Stork's marquee MU (PvT) vs Flash's TvP
Jaedong's ZvP vs Bisu's PvZ??

jesus h. christ
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 22 2010 04:18 GMT
#698
On July 22 2010 12:04 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Click on the "All" button and read through it all. I just did that, fun and entertaining read haha, thanks Wax .

I hope it becomes
Bisu, Effort
Flash, Zero
Jaedong, Sea
Stork, fantasy

And then Taekbangleessang all win their Ro8 matches. Then

Flash vs. Stork
Bisu vs. Jaedong

semifinals

omgasm

That would be totally totally sick! But highly unlikely unfortunately...
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 22 2010 04:26 GMT
#699
depending on the maps id probably go with flash > stork and jaedong > bisu, so another flash v jaedong final

i dont think it will be easy for fantasy to break out of his group, free and stork are solid players and kal too if he starts playing -.-

are there any royal roaders? action and free i think?
HEY MEYT
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 05:17:11
July 22 2010 05:02 GMT
#700
On July 22 2010 10:39 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:40 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:29 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
free and Kals PvT is not as good as Bisus..

Storks PvT is pretty amazing but frees PvT never amazed me that much


Haha Free has the best current PvT man.


Sorry, but thats Snow...


Sorry Superarc, if Snow had the best PvT he wouldn't have been kicked out of the tournament by a terran while playing like trash. It'd be like me saying Stats has the best PvZ because he beat Effort and Zero recently, but got kicked out of the tournament by Hydra -- it's unfair to other players who've proven themselves to be consistent throughout the tournament thusfar.

You can say Snow has good PvT, but when he can't rely on his one clinch matchup to advance, then he's not the best.


Guess what, free got kicked out of the MSL by forgg TvP.
If you call that guy best PvT then no protoss has good PvT, you sometimes really use stupid logic

Everyone loses from time to time


Yeah but ForGG played well?

I mean I'm not sure if you saw those games of Snow vs Really but they were pretty embarrassing. I'll admit the third one was pretty good but Free dropped one good game, he didn't lose a terrible one, barely win a terrible one, and then lose a pretty good one.

also man, you saying someone else uses stupid logic. Come on now SuperArc.

I'm just saying, Snow is out of both leagues due to his PvT, Free isn't. Snow definitely did beat some really good terrans in some impressive snipes recently, but he's probably around the same level Hiya's TvP is at: Really good, a solid sniper of the match up, but probably not better than the one or two players who have really been consistently at the top of the matchup for awhile.
Remember Violet.
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