• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:33
CEST 09:33
KST 16:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)73Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4) StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft Sagi.gg Launcher Released Fantasy returning? BSL Season 23 Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7040 users

[OSL] Group Selection - Korean Air OSL Season II - Page 35

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 39 Next All
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
July 22 2010 01:31 GMT
#681
wow thanks a lot for ur incredible explanation men
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 22 2010 01:39 GMT
#682
On July 22 2010 10:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:40 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:29 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
free and Kals PvT is not as good as Bisus..

Storks PvT is pretty amazing but frees PvT never amazed me that much


Haha Free has the best current PvT man.


Sorry, but thats Snow...


Sorry Superarc, if Snow had the best PvT he wouldn't have been kicked out of the tournament by a terran while playing like trash. It'd be like me saying Stats has the best PvZ because he beat Effort and Zero recently, but got kicked out of the tournament by Hydra -- it's unfair to other players who've proven themselves to be consistent throughout the tournament thusfar.

You can say Snow has good PvT, but when he can't rely on his one clinch matchup to advance, then he's not the best.


Guess what, free got kicked out of the MSL by forgg TvP.
If you call that guy best PvT then no protoss has good PvT, you sometimes really use stupid logic

Everyone loses from time to time
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
July 22 2010 01:49 GMT
#683
I would guess FanTaSy would get out of his group 3-0...

FlaSh's group seems like it's the weakest, of course not because FlaSh is weak or anything, but I dunno... Group seems shaky...
twitch.tv/dizzywee
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
July 22 2010 01:49 GMT
#684
I hope someone on TL will translate the event like the MSL, love watching these with the trash talk translations beside it. :D
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 22 2010 01:50 GMT
#685
On July 22 2010 10:49 Anomarad wrote:
I hope someone on TL will translate the event like the MSL, love watching these with the trash talk translations beside it. :D


That's... what the whole thread was for lol
and waxangel's on the spot translations throughout the thread = hellarious
Hey! Listen!
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 01:54:58
July 22 2010 01:54 GMT
#686
On July 22 2010 10:50 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:49 Anomarad wrote:
I hope someone on TL will translate the event like the MSL, love watching these with the trash talk translations beside it. :D


That's... what the whole thread was for lol
and waxangel's on the spot translations throughout the thread = hellarious


I was hoping for a compiled thread, I don't know whats what with reading this thread.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
July 22 2010 01:56 GMT
#687
On July 22 2010 10:54 Anomarad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:50 Navi wrote:
On July 22 2010 10:49 Anomarad wrote:
I hope someone on TL will translate the event like the MSL, love watching these with the trash talk translations beside it. :D


That's... what the whole thread was for lol
and waxangel's on the spot translations throughout the thread = hellarious


I was hoping for a compiled thread, I don't know whats what with reading this thread.


It's not that hard.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 22 2010 01:59 GMT
#688
No protoss has consistently good PvT right now.

When I started watching SC in early 09 the clear answer was Bisu. In late 09 the clear answer was Stork. In early 2010 the clear answer was Kal (as much as Stork/Bisu fans would hate to admit it).

Now it's a toss-up between those 3, Free, and Snow, with none of them being able to churn out consistent wins against good Terrans.
Husmusen
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden92 Posts
July 22 2010 02:00 GMT
#689
Efforts group is the perfect little snackpack for him
Effort is the man Effort understands
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
July 22 2010 02:01 GMT
#690
Bisu v Effort will be interesting to see. A little retribution for SKT1vCJ ace match.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 02:34:37
July 22 2010 02:33 GMT
#691
I still say (P)BeSt has the best TvP. So he got zerged in the Ro36 and MST... it happens to every good Protoss sometimes. If he played a T he would have destroyed them. It's a shame his vZ is so mediocre because he could make a serious Starleague push again if he pulled it together.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 22 2010 03:01 GMT
#692
this is gonna beee sicccccccccck <3

TAEK BANG LEE SSANG
TAEK BANG LEE SSANG

image a Jaedong/Stork/Bisu/Flash OSL SEMIFINALS!
that would be sldkfjasdlkfjsda;lf
-nerdgasm-
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 03:05:13
July 22 2010 03:04 GMT
#693
Click on the "All" button and read through it all. I just did that, fun and entertaining read haha, thanks Wax .

I hope it becomes
Bisu, Effort
Flash, Zero
Jaedong, Sea
Stork, fantasy

And then Taekbangleessang all win their Ro8 matches. Then

Flash vs. Stork
Bisu vs. Jaedong

semifinals

omgasm
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
July 22 2010 03:10 GMT
#694
On July 22 2010 11:33 Crisium wrote:
I still say (P)BeSt has the best TvP. So he got zerged in the Ro36 and MST... it happens to every good Protoss sometimes. If he played a T he would have destroyed them. It's a shame his vZ is so mediocre because he could make a serious Starleague push again if he pulled it together.

Id say his PvT is the most consistent especially once he can get his macro groove on. He'd be an OSL champ by now had he not run into July in EVER 08 OSL.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8179 Posts
July 22 2010 03:13 GMT
#695
A: Action, Bisu
B: Flash HiyA
C: Pure Jaedong
D: Kal Fantasy
Free Palestine
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 03:40:54
July 22 2010 03:40 GMT
#696
My final 8:
Effort
Bisu
Flash
Zero
Pure
Jaedong
Kal
Fantasy

you'll notice it contradicts my sig
serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 22 2010 04:04 GMT
#697
On July 22 2010 12:04 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Click on the "All" button and read through it all. I just did that, fun and entertaining read haha, thanks Wax .

I hope it becomes
Bisu, Effort
Flash, Zero
Jaedong, Sea
Stork, fantasy

And then Taekbangleessang all win their Ro8 matches. Then

Flash vs. Stork
Bisu vs. Jaedong

semifinals

omgasm

Stork's marquee MU (PvT) vs Flash's TvP
Jaedong's ZvP vs Bisu's PvZ??

jesus h. christ
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 22 2010 04:18 GMT
#698
On July 22 2010 12:04 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Click on the "All" button and read through it all. I just did that, fun and entertaining read haha, thanks Wax .

I hope it becomes
Bisu, Effort
Flash, Zero
Jaedong, Sea
Stork, fantasy

And then Taekbangleessang all win their Ro8 matches. Then

Flash vs. Stork
Bisu vs. Jaedong

semifinals

omgasm

That would be totally totally sick! But highly unlikely unfortunately...
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 22 2010 04:26 GMT
#699
depending on the maps id probably go with flash > stork and jaedong > bisu, so another flash v jaedong final

i dont think it will be easy for fantasy to break out of his group, free and stork are solid players and kal too if he starts playing -.-

are there any royal roaders? action and free i think?
HEY MEYT
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 05:17:11
July 22 2010 05:02 GMT
#700
On July 22 2010 10:39 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:40 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 21 2010 21:29 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
free and Kals PvT is not as good as Bisus..

Storks PvT is pretty amazing but frees PvT never amazed me that much


Haha Free has the best current PvT man.


Sorry, but thats Snow...


Sorry Superarc, if Snow had the best PvT he wouldn't have been kicked out of the tournament by a terran while playing like trash. It'd be like me saying Stats has the best PvZ because he beat Effort and Zero recently, but got kicked out of the tournament by Hydra -- it's unfair to other players who've proven themselves to be consistent throughout the tournament thusfar.

You can say Snow has good PvT, but when he can't rely on his one clinch matchup to advance, then he's not the best.


Guess what, free got kicked out of the MSL by forgg TvP.
If you call that guy best PvT then no protoss has good PvT, you sometimes really use stupid logic

Everyone loses from time to time


Yeah but ForGG played well?

I mean I'm not sure if you saw those games of Snow vs Really but they were pretty embarrassing. I'll admit the third one was pretty good but Free dropped one good game, he didn't lose a terrible one, barely win a terrible one, and then lose a pretty good one.

also man, you saying someone else uses stupid logic. Come on now SuperArc.

I'm just saying, Snow is out of both leagues due to his PvT, Free isn't. Snow definitely did beat some really good terrans in some impressive snipes recently, but he's probably around the same level Hiya's TvP is at: Really good, a solid sniper of the match up, but probably not better than the one or two players who have really been consistently at the top of the matchup for awhile.
Remember Violet.
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 27m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 966
Hyun 52
NotJumperer 42
Bale 34
Killer 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Britney 0
Dota 2
febbydoto173
League of Legends
JimRising 515
Counter-Strike
edward15
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King112
Other Games
summit1g7974
Coldzera 719
ceh9505
olofmeister483
WinterStarcraft389
C9.Mang0288
Sick142
NeuroSwarm90
Happy39
ViBE23
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick584
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream43
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2303
League of Legends
• Rush1013
• Jankos632
• Stunt387
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
2h 27m
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
3h 27m
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
16h 27m
Patches Events
1d 8h
The PondCast
2 days
INu's Battles
2 days
Percival vs TBD
TBD vs herO
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
3 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.