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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
May 22 2010 11:24 GMT
#3361
effort paranoid about proxies

since flash loves dem proxies
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3362
wtf?
Taking a base at 9 ??
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Rodiel
Profile Joined August 2006
France573 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3363
effort have take the yellow mineral
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3364
Effort ninja expoing! if flas hgoes for mnm he is gonna be dead
In the woods, there lurks..
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3365
On May 22 2010 20:22 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:21 TheYango wrote:
On May 22 2010 20:18 Fenrax wrote:
Yep, that was 100% BM CC. No arguing there. He built in right on top of all that Hydra goo and in the middle of the battlefield.

Flash uses buildings to block his tanks all the time. He wasn't in a situation where he was likely to lose it, and building it in front of his tanks helps his immediate situation far more than building it behind.

Even if Effort had the appropriate units to fight Flash, what's he going to do? Try and snipe the CC? The amount of damage he'd have to do to the CC is way more than equivalent value of tanks (especially since Flash can cancel the CC).

Wouldn't it have been much more efficient to take another expo?
There was no way Effort was going to attack 11 any time soon. Flash would have to wait for the creep to wear off after the hatch at 12 died anyways.

As people have said already, the direction of his push meant that expo was the safest place to expo. Expanding to bottom is obviously infeasible, while if he expanded to top left, he'd have to put defense at both his 3rd and 4th. This way, his units are already in a position to shield his 4th anyway.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3366
what's effort playing at... Even *I* can tell when the timing of a pool is late with no second hatch
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
iRRelevance
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania725 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3367
DON'T LIFT !!!
"You can ... draw sounds ?"
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3368
Woah, did anyone screen cap that drawing of Effort? Looked like some kind of....alien
Nothing to it but to do it.
hordeau
Profile Joined June 2009
United States157 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3369
effort you sneaky bastard.
wat
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3370
Flash scouted in the wrong direction. Effort took 9 o'clock instead of nat.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3371
3hatch before pool!!!!!!!!!!!!!
. . . nevermore
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3372
3hat before pool double expand
Is effort an idiot
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3373
3 hatch before pool

awesome
BW is back
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3374
On May 22 2010 20:24 OneOther wrote:
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On May 22 2010 20:20 FireBlast! wrote:
On May 22 2010 20:17 7mk wrote:
On May 22 2010 20:16 prosatan wrote:
i agree with OneOther
maybe it was better to invest the energy of queens in broodling all tanks, not parasite a tank
and a gol


agreed...

I mean one parasite is fine when it gives you vision over whole army but... second one... then again second one might have just been cause queen was about to die


i think effort did all he can with queens, he used broodlings the moment queens hit 150 but by that time it was too late. flash saw the queens and knew he had to push before they could hit his tanks, which he did and put effort's strategy out of sync. it couldve been beautiful but flash is far too clever

there are many things effort could have done differently. i guess from a spectator's perspective, it's a lot easier to spot player's mistakes. he needed to wait no matter what until queens had broodlings, which was about 20-30 seconds? flash was actually pushing pretty slowly to get the terrain advantage, so maybe effort could have saved his expo right before he died. i think effort was caught by surprise at flash's timing (which was unbelievable). he needed to bring a group of hydras around to the other side through the middle; he could have flanked flash's army. for some reason he attacked from lower ground without queens. needed to be more patient.


yeah I guess he panicked
beep boop
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3375
3 hatch before pool

wowowowow
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3376
lets see how this turns out...
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3377
God effort so greedy, 3 hatch before pool @ 3 bases
In the woods, there lurks..
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3378
On May 22 2010 20:22 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:21 TheYango wrote:
On May 22 2010 20:18 Fenrax wrote:
Yep, that was 100% BM CC. No arguing there. He built in right on top of all that Hydra goo and in the middle of the battlefield.

Flash uses buildings to block his tanks all the time. He wasn't in a situation where he was likely to lose it, and building it in front of his tanks helps his immediate situation far more than building it behind.

Even if Effort had the appropriate units to fight Flash, what's he going to do? Try and snipe the CC? The amount of damage he'd have to do to the CC is way more than equivalent value of tanks (especially since Flash can cancel the CC).

Wouldn't it have been much more efficient to take another expo?
There was no way Effort was going to attack 11 any time soon. Flash would have to wait for the creep to wear off after the hatch at 12 died anyways.



Yeah there was creep, but the CC was far from being finished. It is quite natural to take that EXPO if you start at 7. And who knows, maybe Effort has taken the 6 o'clock expo and still has a good number of units. I don't see why Flash should slow his game down just because it might look like he is winning. Let Flash play they game he wants and until he builds a supply depot alien head, I doubt anything he does is at all BM.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3379
3hatch before pool?
Remember Violet.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
May 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#3380
On May 22 2010 20:25 Rodiel wrote:
effort have take the yellow mineral

il y a seulement bleus
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
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