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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
May 16 2010 05:16 GMT
#581
On May 16 2010 14:15 Garnet wrote:
I'm happy. Hope Hoejja replaces Luxury soon.

If only he knew how to play both ZvT and ZvZ (as Luxury did, at least intermittently).
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 16 2010 05:16 GMT
#582
On May 16 2010 14:15 Garnet wrote:
I'm happy. Hope Hoejja replaces Luxury soon.


Only if he fixes his ZvZ,,, Luxury used to be a damn good ZvZer at his prime.
Prototype
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden56 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 05:24:23
May 16 2010 05:17 GMT
#583
On May 16 2010 14:14 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:12 Holgerius wrote:
On May 16 2010 14:08 okum wrote:
On May 16 2010 14:08 Holgerius wrote:
So this is Movie's ''S-class'' MU? XD

Whatever it is, it's HoeJJa's A-class MU.

Indeed. He can be fucking good at it. Still, I have predicted Movie's downfall as a progamer for a long time now. Nice to see that it's becoming a reality.



Haha yeah because losing to Hoejja playing well signifies the end

Just as Effort's win vs Flash just means Flash will play all the better in the finals and Mech never won a single game (and isn't completely awesome to watch/play)!

Seriously, Fantasy playing TvZ on a much higher meta-level than anyone else is quite obviously putting the hurt on the lesser minds among us, as they fail to recognize the familiar 'story' patterns (ie. m&m die vs lurks) - it's rather like a Godard film, if you think about it.
"Do we live to play, or do we play to live?"
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
May 16 2010 05:17 GMT
#584
On May 16 2010 14:16 Malinor wrote:
As long as Movies APM is around 230, he is going nowhere, it just shows in his games (Yeah, and Saviors ~250 APM was over 3 years ago, so please don't).

stork
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 16 2010 05:18 GMT
#585
On May 16 2010 14:16 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:15 Garnet wrote:
I'm happy. Hope Hoejja replaces Luxury soon.

If only he knew how to play both ZvT and ZvZ (as Luxury did, at least intermittently).

I have a feeling that we won't be seeing Luxury on television for quite some time...
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 16 2010 05:19 GMT
#586
On May 16 2010 14:18 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:16 okum wrote:
On May 16 2010 14:15 Garnet wrote:
I'm happy. Hope Hoejja replaces Luxury soon.

If only he knew how to play both ZvT and ZvZ (as Luxury did, at least intermittently).

I have a feeling that we won't be seeing Luxury on television for quite some time...


Or ever again.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
May 16 2010 05:19 GMT
#587
On May 16 2010 14:18 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:16 okum wrote:
On May 16 2010 14:15 Garnet wrote:
I'm happy. Hope Hoejja replaces Luxury soon.

If only he knew how to play both ZvT and ZvZ (as Luxury did, at least intermittently).

I have a feeling that we won't be seeing Luxury on television for quite some time...

Although he could get privilege to watch television if he's on good behavior lol
... Knowmsayin'?
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 05:20:35
May 16 2010 05:19 GMT
#588
On May 16 2010 14:17 Shivaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:16 Malinor wrote:
As long as Movies APM is around 230, he is going nowhere, it just shows in his games (Yeah, and Saviors ~250 APM was over 3 years ago, so please don't).

stork


Stork mentioned in a Korean TV show that he used to have around 230 apm, but it has improved to a little bit below 300.

EDIT: Source: It was in the same show that Flash mentioned that he has attained enlightenment. You can find it in that thread.
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
May 16 2010 05:19 GMT
#589
how to beat hoejja? go reaver drops. all else fails
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
May 16 2010 05:19 GMT
#590
On May 16 2010 14:14 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:10 darktreb wrote:
On May 16 2010 14:06 Ideas wrote:
On May 16 2010 13:49 darktreb wrote:
Flash is my favorite player, and I'm a huge Effort (and CJ) fan, so I watch almost every game by both players. I can understand why people thought this game was a big deal but they shouldn't have, and here's why:

1. A lot of people thought Effort fluked his way into the OSL finals, in part because of the tiebreakers. Maybe he should have lost the tiebreaker but the fact of the matter is he's been playing great ever since then and people have been so blinded by the tiebreaker that they've willfully been overlooking this.

2. When Effort plays his best, he is an elite player. He was not overrated in 2009 - if you actually watched his play you saw someone who was as good as anybody not named Jaedong. Lately he's been back in form - sure his ZvT looked shaky for awhile but he looked shaky in general. Even before this game he was looking like the same guy he was in 2009 - that is to say a beast who was virtually invincible against Terran. He just hadn't played ZvTs to show it recently (though actually he had in a great game against Fantasy but everyone discounted that because of "Fantasy sucks TvZ" blind hate again)

3. This map is quite different from every map they'll be playing in the finals. Even Polaris Rhapsody is more similar to Match Point than Judgement Day is to any map in the finals rotation. All we "learned" from this game was that if Effort gets a huge advantage early on, he has the late game skills to finish the deal, even against someone as good as Flash. This shouldn't have been surprising to people as Effort's always been an insanely good late game player but I guess all the Effort hate from the last few months has clouded this. We also "learned" that Flash's defense is amazingly good but even he can't come back from such a big early game disadvantage (caused by him being uncharacteristically sloppy and a BO loss).

All in all, Flash vs Effort is likely going to be an entertaining and competitive finals. Glad that this game happened so more people can see that now instead of all the "boo Kal would have been better" BS. Yeaaaaaaah right - Kal vs Flash is the final that everyone should have been dreading, and I'm glad we didn't get it.


dude fuck you kal is way cooler than effort lol


Haha, Kal is one of my favorite P's but I just call it like I see it. We've seen Kal play at 100% and he simply lacks that "last 2%" that the commentators always talk about. Effort playing at 100% potential is much more likely to give Flash a fight.



I think kal has the skills to beat flash, he's just got really bad nerves in high pressure situations. I was hoping that since the start of this year he's been far more consistent in PL and such and that he'd finally conquered his nerves and could move to the upper echelons of play, but I guess he still needs more time :\


I remember rooting for Kal in the Kal vs Jaedong MSL finals back in the day and being really impressed with his play. I felt like he was ahead in all 4 games but just wasn't ready to take down the Dong.

But that was over two years ago. I've seen Kal play a ton of brilliant games but he's never gone a tear. It seems like all the truly elite players go on a tear from time to time. Flash and Jaedong have been on a tear essentially their whole careers. Bisu has had insane 100 game stretches. Even Effort has rolled off periods of incredible play. Kal never has. As much as I like the guy, he's not that young and he's never done anything to make me believe he's anything more than a very good player capable of threatening for a final every season but never actually making it (and definitely never winning). I hope he proves me wrong.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 16 2010 05:19 GMT
#591
On May 16 2010 14:18 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:16 okum wrote:
On May 16 2010 14:15 Garnet wrote:
I'm happy. Hope Hoejja replaces Luxury soon.

If only he knew how to play both ZvT and ZvZ (as Luxury did, at least intermittently).

I have a feeling that we won't be seeing Luxury on television for quite some time...

Meh, it's one of the two...
Yarnc or Lux.
Which one...
Or both?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8151 Posts
May 16 2010 05:20 GMT
#592
On May 16 2010 14:18 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:16 okum wrote:
On May 16 2010 14:15 Garnet wrote:
I'm happy. Hope Hoejja replaces Luxury soon.

If only he knew how to play both ZvT and ZvZ (as Luxury did, at least intermittently).

I have a feeling that we won't be seeing Luxury on television for quite some time...


not unless the korean prison system has a starcraft league
Free Palestine
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
May 16 2010 05:20 GMT
#593
On May 16 2010 14:17 Shivaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:16 Malinor wrote:
As long as Movies APM is around 230, he is going nowhere, it just shows in his games (Yeah, and Saviors ~250 APM was over 3 years ago, so please don't).

stork


Stork has sped up considerably the last two seasons. He kinda went back to sucking these days though.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 16 2010 05:20 GMT
#594
MA BERSERKER
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
May 16 2010 05:20 GMT
#595
berserker
jon arbuckle
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada443 Posts
May 16 2010 05:20 GMT
#596
On May 16 2010 14:18 tree.hugger wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 16 2010 14:16 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:15 Garnet wrote:
I'm happy. Hope Hoejja replaces Luxury soon.

If only he knew how to play both ZvT and ZvZ (as Luxury did, at least intermittently).

I have a feeling that we won't be seeing Luxury on television for quite some time...


Well there's always
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kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
May 16 2010 05:21 GMT
#597
CHINTOSS
8==========))
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
May 16 2010 05:21 GMT
#598
Berserker vs stats.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 16 2010 05:21 GMT
#599
Ahahaha. I'm sure he'll make this a learning experience and get better for the next game. Come on, valks vs lurkers? it was his sheer mechanics that the game wasn't over from the start.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 16 2010 05:21 GMT
#600
Iris vs Stats

Damnit I want you both to win
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
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