Predictions: + Show Spoiler + I like to start my predictions by examining each teams strength overall, then go into specific predictions. First we will look at
eSTRO .
eSTRO has a couple of strengths, and a lot of weaknesses.
eSTRO 's strength?
Really and
the unknown . That is the strength of
eSTRO .
Really is a good player, but the rest of their team is kind of a tossup, so you never know who to expect and what to expect out of them. Although it is hard to predict with a team like
eSTRO , the players I expect them to use this game:
Really ,
hyvaa ,
Flying , and
Classic . Now it is just mix and matching the players based on the map and the other team's players.
CJ Entus , in my opinion, is not so hot right now. Their starter players include
Movie , who is just... I don't even know what to say about him. He is just "meh" right now. He is on a pretty bad streak right now and just got knocked out of the OSL by
great . Their next big player is
EffOrt , who I hope gets back on his feet again. Many people believe that his revival is starting after some impressive muta micro versus
ZerO in the OSL which led him to a victory. But I am not so convinced, yet. Maybe tonight will be the night he changes my mind? The rest of
CJ Entus ...
Iris ,
sKyHigh ,
Hydra , and
others are all tossups as well.
The only person playing tonight who I think has a definite advantage over anyone is
Really , which at first doesn't look like good news for
CJ Entus . But there is one player who can beat
Really and this first map is the map to do it on.
eSTRO 3 > 2
CJ Entus
Well here is to see Flying vs Effort with some Arbiter usage again!
Edit: =P he changed it I don't know if I agree with you picking skyhigh over really.
On April 25 2010 09:08 OreoBoi wrote: Ah clever, you couldn't decide whether movie or iris was coming out so you used a terran symbol with movies name. I don't know if I agree with you picking skyhigh over really.
I CHANGED ITTTTT > _ < edit: Now I'm off to do the ACE vs Stars prediction! ZOOOOOOM!
unfortunately.. i dont think CJ will win. Estro's Flying and Really are more than enough to bring this to ace and in that case Really > any CJ player as of now
Effort is regaining his form, Estro better watch out.
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Wait, what about Snow ? Up and coming, yo.
I disagree with Really being sent out on Roadrunner in your prediction. His only game on that map was an ace match he lost in so it's probably the map Really isn't really practicing on.Action will most likely be sent out on Roadrunner . Maybe...
On April 25 2010 11:09 prototype. wrote: I disagree with
Really being sent out on
Roadrunner in your prediction. His only game on that map was an ace match he lost in so it's probably the map
Really isn't really practicing on.
Action will most likely be sent out on
Roadrunner . Maybe...
Ahh, but your thinking works both ways. Maybe he practiced Roadrunner a lot because he lost that game? Either way, my predictions are just a guess. I predict terrans will always be sent out on Roadrunner just because the statistics say that they are the strongest race on Roadrunner . I try and make my predictions as logical as possible, but hey, you never know what those crazy koreans are going to do! ;] Interesting though... what makes you say Action will be sent out? His stats on Roadrunner are.... not quite in favor of that opinion. Action Stats
I'm going to be commentating on the game in my stream. I sent in the application to be verified 2 days ago and they haven't verified it yet. So there are only 50 slots available. EDIT: Had to stop streaming my connection it totally failing on me. Its unwatchable.
On April 25 2010 11:48 tbrown47 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 11:09 prototype. wrote: I disagree with Really being sent out on Roadrunner in your prediction. His only game on that map was an ace match he lost in so it's probably the map Really isn't really practicing on. Action will most likely be sent out on Roadrunner. Maybe...
Ahh, but your thinking works both ways. Maybe he practiced Roadrunner a lot because he lost that game?
Either way, my predictions are just a guess. I predict terrans will always be sent out on Roadrunner just because the statistics say that they are the strongest race on Roadrunner. I try and make my predictions as logical as possible, but hey, you never know what those crazy koreans are going to do! ;]
Interesting though... what makes you say Action will be sent out? His stats on Roadrunner are.... not quite in favor of that opinion.
Action Stats Interestingly, I too, feel that Action may be sent out on Roadrunner; given how sKyHigh will probably be sent out on the map and how weak his TvZ is. After all, in those stats you quoted, the only win Action has on the map is against sKyHigh.
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come on CJ... effort/movie/skyhigh need to start winning again! (plus oh man snow is getting pretty good) on the other hand, estro is no longer the little wimp that everyone bullies. which is nice.On April 25 2010 08:57, cncbmb wrote: (T)IdrA < (P)Wuk (P)Movie <(P)Grape (Z)sAviOr > (T)Really (Z)EffOrt > (Z)hyvaa (T)IdrA < (P)Wuk
genius right there
Mystlord
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estro has no chance
woah old school reach vs sea on mystlord streams awesome memories
Effort should win I think But Action is pretty good as well it is a ZvZ though
EFFORT FIGHTING GO GET EM' MY ALIEN
wow huge game for me, effort on anti and action on main.
ewwww a zvz w/e gogogo action
On April 25 2010 13:05 Garnet wrote: wow huge game for me, effort on anti and action on main.
YOU SHALL PAY FOR THIS
Just noticed, the maps are wrong in op.
ESTRO FIGHTING! I hope they win this, I haven't watched eSTRO win live in a while haha
c'mon action, stop effort from scoring against me
Both players scouting wrong.
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A black dude..first time Ive ever seen a black dude in anything korean related!
BLACK GUY AND RANDOM WHITE GUYS HI MAN
EffOrt spawning at top left cornerAction spawning at top right corner
On April 25 2010 13:08 Megalisk wrote: Both players scouting wrong.
In that case it will probably go down to who is more agressive early game..
effort 12 hacthing vs action 9pool? am i seeing it right?
LOL Commentators said "Hi man" in English after seeing the Black dude xD
OMG HE SAVES THE HATCH for how long thou
LOL WTF IT LIVED? edit: LOL action gets it. His spire is already starting. Effort needs to do something quick lmao.
Effort JUST manages to save his hatchery pulling a shitload of drones!
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HOLY SHIT THAT WAS CLOSE. THAT HATCH ALLLLLLMOST WENT DOWN.
HOOOOLY FUCK..it went down after all
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH BOI EFFORT SAVES THE HATCH!
Mystlord
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HATCHERY GOES DOWN MWHAHAHAHA!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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JUST KIDDING HATCH DOWN! GO ACTION!
scratch that! Action gets 2 lings in to kill it!
OMG SO CLOSE!!!! Can't believe Effort held it off.. ah, but more zerglings finish it...
yup 3 seconds later goes down lol
On April 25 2010 13:11 flamewheel91 wrote: JUST KIDDING HATCH DOWN! GO ACTION!
LOL
Effort rebuilding nat hatch
Effort doesn't even know where action is. =/ Looking bad for alien zerg. No tech, no second hatch.
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EffOrt trying to pressure with some lings, gets some drones, but Action's sunk is well-placed.
SPORES MORPHING MUTAS AT THE NAT
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Action all up in EffOrt's nat, using four lings to kill shit. Sunkens are trying to go up, but lings are taking them down. EffOrt with lings to defend, but Action has his first muta up. Spore going down, it'll definitely finish with only two mutas. Action starts killing ovies instead.
At the C- level..in this situation..I just spore and drone whore, which works well..is that what progamers do?
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EffOrt tries to counter with zerglings, kills one drones at the cost of about 6-8 lings?
i think effort's got this, reminds me of his game vs luxury a while back
Effort has spores up. Sacks some zerglings for a drone. Action's expanding now.
effort teching to lair atm spore to defend while he gets his own mutas
7 mineral drones vs effort's 11 ? Did Action manner himself with that spire?
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self manner-spire by action -_-
Effort does pretty good damage with those lings. Got 2 drones? Oh god effort's muta splits are always beautiful to see.
Effort with ling harrass killing a few drones and forcing them to move alot..
efforts muta clump looks so much bigger than actions atm
Oh my god!! Is Effort seriously back? His decision making skills has been insane this game!
o whoops got colors mixed up lol
Effort splitting his mutalisks to avoid Action. All he really needs to do is survive a bit longer and he might win this thing!
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Some nice muta micro back and forth, can't tell who's winning. Action starts his natural gas. Zerglings at EffOrt's nat trying to snipe drones! Single muta tries to defend.
Action looks like he had 6-7 mutas and a few scourge. Effort looks like he has a pretty dense muta cloud. Getting a third hatch!
Action's carapace is waaaay earlier..
Effort puts down another hatchery
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lol efforts got this shit
LONE MUTA MISSES EFFORTS 3RD ROFL
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Muta battle going down again! Just kidding Action gets a few free hits, but EffOrt runs away. Whoa ninja expo for EffOrt.
Hidden hatchery at 8 for Effort
All efforts mutas dead? What? Action knows about the hidden third. edit: nvm he must've split them and I missed it.
Action runs in with ~12 lings and takes out Effort's third base
Zerglings find the ninja expo.
wow effort wht was thta? efforts 3rd base gets discovered and ambushed by lings
god damn, action muta stacking like sc2
Big muta battle starts. Total clusterfuck of mutas. Effort comes out on top!
MUTA BATTLE! Where are the scourges XD Effort manages to chase Action away, but doesn't pursue
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Sunk at nat + lings defends against EffOrt's lings, though he gets some by! Lings in main killed by sunk, not many drones dead? Gas at third almost done for EffOrt. That's a fucking huge fleet of mutas for Action. BATTLE BATTLE Who's winning... Both pull back after a LOT of losses.
Effort wins in a huge muta battle
I just traded effort onto my anti team, come on action!
Effort tries to counter with a few lings, but they get taken out easily. +2 carapace done now for Action. Action going for an expansion in the bottom right.
Effort finds action's 3rd with a scoutling
+2 carapace for action. +1 still for effort.
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Action done with +2, and EffOrt finds Action's third. Natural sunk for Action almost dead, but lings die to mutas.
2 lings find Action's third base, but Effort would be really pulled away if he engaged with mutalisks (the expansion is on the other side of the map) He makes a few lings, but I think he's going to target the natural. About two control groups of action's mutas chase that away though. Effort contends himself with taking his 3rd again
why did he target the gas first..
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SCOURGE FLEET Lings sacking Action's third. HOLY SHIT SO MANY SCOURGE LAND FOR ACTION ON MUTAS (Effort's) EffOrt again splitting to run. dammmmmmn.
Effort remaking the expansion at the bottom left. Actions bottom right is up and online, but Effort's mutas are headed there now to challenge it. HUGE fleet of scourge slams into Effort's mutas, then mutas engage vs. mutas and action comes out on top! But Action's expansion hatch is dead. Action now going to take out Effort's expansion again. But he's morphing 4 spore colonies there and scourge chase away the mutas.
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What the hell? Action runs away from EffORt's third... there were four creeps making, not yet spores...
Now's the time to pull a ZerO and go queens+ensnare.
On April 25 2010 13:26 flamewheel91 wrote: What the hell? Action runs away from EffORt's third... there were four creeps making, not yet spores...
he ran away from scourages
Effort's 3rd is pretty nicely defended against mutas now, and Action still doesn't have a 3rd. He needs to do something soon to fix this!
Is Mystlord's stream lagging for anyone else, or is it just me?
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Action in the main! Three spores against a number of mutas... LAGGGGGGGGGGUUUU.
On April 25 2010 13:27 QuothTheRaven wrote: Is Mystlord's stream lagging for anyone else, or is it just me?
same for me looks liek action lost a lot of mutas i think
Huge muta battle engages, lots of lag. Looks like Effort came out on top by a wide margin! Lings doing some damage in Effort's nat, but not enough, and Effort cleans it all up.
LAG INTO EFFORT KILLING ALL OF ACTIONS SHIT?
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oh man, Action's army gets slaughtered. More lag :/
Effort now has 2 sunks and 3 spores defending his 3rd, plus some zerglings. Action still on 2 base with an inferior mutalisk fleet.
How is this happening, it looks like action is doing so well but then he loses battles :[.Should get a queen!
I can't believe this is 2010 Effort playing, he looks so much like the 2009 version.
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GG from Action. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Meh, FPL feelings aside: Great game, definitely recommend it.
GG FROM ACTION FUCK YEAH EFFORT COME OUT OF YOUR SLUMP PLZ.
gg from action..EFFORT YEAAAAH PARTY LIKE ITS 2009
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EFFORT!!!! Amazing ZvZ - Recommend.
Lol did Action get impatient or something wtf was that?
Guess now that Effort isn't being payed to throw games, he's actually playing well.
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no hive tech.. I am sad
I think Action went allin during the lagspike, running zerglings into the nat while trying to break spores with mutas in the main.
I guess action felt like if he waited longer he'd be too behind since he lost his third and effort was mining off 3 gas.
Action...engaged against Effort's muta...over Effort's spore colony field and ate all the scourges without bothering to dodge.
pretty good zvz Hope this is a sign of Effot regaining form. I really miss this guy
So I am sure everyone who voted Zero on Zero vs Effort is starting to regret it lol. Effort somehow got his ZvZ mojo back.
On April 25 2010 13:32 SuperArc wrote: So I am sure everyone who voted Zero on Zero vs Effort is starting to regret it lol. Effort somehow got his mojo back.
Fixed..cause I believe!
Now I'm happy that I woke up at 7 just to watch this.
I hope we get to see skyhigh whip some terran butt.
On April 25 2010 13:40 Qwertify wrote: I hope we get to see skyhigh whip some terran butt.
Skyhigh vs. Really would be sweet..
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i just want a hyvaa win? please?
bring out hyvaa the boss!
Flying vs Skyhigh. Lol Flying sucks, but Skyhigh isn't good vs P. Who will fail more? Only time will tell.
On April 25 2010 13:43 hyst.eric.al wrote: bring out hyvaa the boss!
He is indeed a boss..but he's gonna fight against CJ...grr
SkyHigh scouts Proxy gates
Skyhigh finds 2 proxy gates
STAR SENSE FROM SKYHIGH SCOUTS THE PROXY DUAL GATES. TEMPLAR ARCHIVES OUT FOR FLYING?
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Skyhigh v...? Flying, oh. DT out.
This guy is trying to be Nony or something.. DT COMING OH FUCK
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DTs going up ramp... Turrets... LAG. Hmm SkyHigh in trouble. SCVs mining getting raped now.
DTs killing a lot of stuff at Skyhigh's ramp. Lots of lag, but it looked like 1 DT got taken out but 2 are in the main now.
skyhigh getting owned by dts
Skyhigh's lost control of his main area, has 1 turret up by his ramp and is having to turret upsh his way back to his CC. Meanwhile losing most of his depots and not mining anything at all.
Can't.....See....what's....going on!
FREEAGLELAND 26781 Posts
Lol mines killing SCVs. You should attack the CC instead :O Okay now CC lifted.
skyhigh is being a BM D- right now
konadora
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lol skyhigh
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Lol. Flying should run a DT into the mine in front of the CC mineral return point...
Lol Skyhigh floating his CC above his geyser, since he has turrets there to protect it. Semi-distance mining with DTs attacking the SCVs at the mineral fields.
Goons in the main now, but they get taken out by tank and mines without doing too much. CC now back in its original position.
flying please warp offensive nexuses
Last tank falls, and then Skyhigh types out.
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GG from SkyHigh now, lolol DT rush go Flying~
Mr. Potato owns owns owns.
am i the only one who noticed this? skyhigh built his ebay like 30 seconds after it was scouted, it seems like he should have been able to get turrets in time if he built it immediately
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How did he lose after he scouted the proxy gates? Bad decision making?
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On April 25 2010 13:50 iamho wrote: am i the only one who noticed this? skyhigh built his ebay like 30 seconds after it was scouted, it seems like he should have been able to get turrets in time if he built it immediately
CLEARLY GAME THROWING.
On April 25 2010 13:51 flamewheel91 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 13:50 iamho wrote: am i the only one who noticed this? skyhigh built his ebay like 30 seconds after it was scouted, it seems like he should have been able to get turrets in time if he built it immediately
CLEARLY GAME THROWING.
Total shenanigans on this game.
On April 25 2010 13:50 iamho wrote: am i the only one who noticed this? skyhigh built his ebay like 30 seconds after it was scouted, it seems like he should have been able to get turrets in time if he built it immediately
He ain't flash
Did Skyhigh scout dt tech before or after the proxy gates?
is it just me or I can't watch the streams
30 seconds after the gates or the templar archives?
On April 25 2010 13:53 Dandy4 wrote: is it just me or I can't watch the streams
same
I cant seem to watch the stream too
On April 25 2010 13:53 Megalisk wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 13:50 iamho wrote: am i the only one who noticed this? skyhigh built his ebay like 30 seconds after it was scouted, it seems like he should have been able to get turrets in time if he built it immediately
He ain't flash
To be fair, that was some MAJOY mistake. Anybody that's C on Iccup would be like "OH SHI-! NEED TO GET SCAN/TURRET RIIIIIIIGHT! NAO!!!!!!!!!"
On April 25 2010 13:53 Dandy4 wrote: is it just me or I can't watch the streams
I refreshed because I was lagging and can no longer watch the streams.
Ya... I can't turn on the streams anymore ;;
On April 25 2010 13:53 Megalisk wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 13:50 iamho wrote: am i the only one who noticed this? skyhigh built his ebay like 30 seconds after it was scouted, it seems like he should have been able to get turrets in time if he built it immediately
He ain't flash
Flash would have started turtling like a whole two minutes before Flying got DTs out.
On April 25 2010 13:56 awu25 wrote: bring on savior imo
Savior is in the "B Team" so he can't play.
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On April 25 2010 13:58 boesthius wrote: i'll stream the rest of this as well~
+ Show Spoiler + I'm sure in some form this constitutes as spoiler :/
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Oh man who is it... FANCY LOLOL.
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Fancy... Edit: sweet IRIS!!!! GO BERSERKER!!
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a proper rax over scv positioning should have prevented the lead zealot and dts from coming in.
its good to see iris get some to play again
On April 25 2010 13:53 SuperArc wrote: Did Skyhigh scout dt tech before or after the proxy gates?
If you proxy gates that late, can't you just assume that you opponent will try to go DTs?
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Gosh Fancy reminds me of Fantasy.
and here i thought they sent out flying again... this is like lux/yarnc jeez
On April 25 2010 14:00 boesthius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 13:59 haster27 wrote: On April 25 2010 13:58 boesthius wrote: i'll stream the rest of this as well~
+ Show Spoiler + I'm sure in some form this constitutes as spoiler :/
yaya fixed~
+ Show Spoiler + OMG, but I noticed that you are only streaming the CJ entus game! I can't unnotice that! FFuuuu--!
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Flying is the Milhouse of progaming.
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Did Livestream suddenly stop working for anyone else?
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On April 25 2010 13:58 Kwanroller wrote: Savior is in the "B Team" so he can't play.
Is that confirmed? I heard it was only speculation after Entus did that last time to him for simply presenting lackluster play. In anycase, I'm not surprised, sAviOr has been (some 3 months ago since he stopped) really bad in his last couple of games.
On April 25 2010 14:03 okum wrote: Did Livestream suddenly stop working for anyone else?
Yeah me, I can't get on any streams
konadora
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On April 25 2010 14:03 okum wrote: Did Livestream suddenly stop working for anyone else?
mystlord's stream isn't loading for me, dunno why boe's is working though.
On April 25 2010 14:03 snowdrift86 wrote: Flying is the Milhouse of progaming.
LOL
Streams are working for me again.
On April 25 2010 14:05 konadora wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:03 okum wrote: Did Livestream suddenly stop working for anyone else?
mystlord's stream isn't loading for me, dunno why boe's is working though.
Seems to be a problem with opening it. I get up-to-date still frames when I refresh the page, but the video doesn't start playing.
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Fancy going 2 fac..Iris getting an expo
Iris with a one-fac expand. Fancy with 2 fac expand with 2 addons.
LOL IRIS TRYING TO LAND RAX FIRST TO STOP CC? NT.
Skyhigh had that game in the bag after that scout. I think he only put up that turret when he was sure there were DTs. I mean one turret by the choke and main won't kill your economy. I don't think it was game throwing, I think he was just being very stingy, made a great gamble and paid for it badly.
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On April 25 2010 14:06 boesthius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:05 konadora wrote: On April 25 2010 14:03 okum wrote: Did Livestream suddenly stop working for anyone else?
mystlord's stream isn't loading for me, dunno why boe's is working though.
the power of bacon compels you
Fuck yeah Bacon.
On April 25 2010 14:05 konadora wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:03 okum wrote: Did Livestream suddenly stop working for anyone else?
mystlord's stream isn't loading for me, dunno why boe's is working though.
Both streams seem fine for me.
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On April 25 2010 14:06 boesthius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:05 konadora wrote: On April 25 2010 14:03 okum wrote: Did Livestream suddenly stop working for anyone else?
mystlord's stream isn't loading for me, dunno why boe's is working though.
the power of bacon compels you
<33333333
Your map orders are wrong.
Streams started working again. Yay.
On April 25 2010 14:08 Avidkeystamper wrote: Your map orders are wrong.
They're backwards: the ACE thread has the CJ maps and the CJ thread has the ACE maps.
On April 25 2010 14:08 flamewheel91 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:06 boesthius wrote: On April 25 2010 14:05 konadora wrote: On April 25 2010 14:03 okum wrote: Did Livestream suddenly stop working for anyone else?
mystlord's stream isn't loading for me, dunno why boe's is working though.
the power of bacon compels you
Fuck yeah Bacon.
bacon is good BTW, nice to see a lot of older players back in the scene playing well, like Midas, NaDa, and now Beserker.
Iris making his 3rd CC in his natural already
Oh Shit! Not sure if he cancelled that! But I think iris just let his 3rd CC get blown up
not sure if he canceled in time or not and wow that tank shot
Iris trying to clear out and defend his 3rd, two tanks lines siege up. Iris has a wraith doing damage while Fancy has some vultures. Ouch the CC gets picked off by a tank and Iris doesn't cancel!
Wow, killing three tanks by drawing splash.
Wow fancy's playing well with his vultures and tank positioning. Takes out a good number of Iris's.
that was some pretty FANCY play
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Ooh fancy gets a free tank kill by sieging behind a wall with vision. Unsieges and runs away.
Fancy now starting his 3rd. Still holding on in a position to deny Iris his 3rd base, though he's been pushed back a decent distance now and is no longer threatening Iris' natural.
Iris is getting outmicroed. hard.
Wraith snipes the barracks, so now Fancy has no LoS advantage. Iris bringing a ton of SCVs and tanks to try to break the formation at the 3rd, loses a bunch of SCVs but pushes Fancy back!
On April 25 2010 14:11 NovaTheFeared wrote: Iris is getting outmicroed. hard.
It's not getting outmicro'd if hes not microing at all.
+ Show Spoiler + I love it how Jaedong Oz gets beat up by ACE, and Woongjin takes out ACE 3-0.
Vultures runby into Iris' main!! Iris tries to fight with SCVs, loses quite a few but manages to clean it up.
On April 25 2010 14:12 Megalisk wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:11 NovaTheFeared wrote: Iris is getting outmicroed. hard.
It's not getting outmicro'd if hes not microing at all.
Heh. some micro > no micro :D
Iris going to lose to the classic two port response to one port play.
On April 25 2010 14:12 Megalisk wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:11 NovaTheFeared wrote: Iris is getting outmicroed. hard.
It's not getting outmicro'd if hes not microing at all.
This is a good point. In that case he is just playing badly. I mean why would he seige up those tanks when he saw that Fancy had 4 vultures nearby. He should have waiting a bit longer for those tank reinforcements to come.
o dam wraiths being amde and saved up for surprise iris shuts down the 3rd btw
Iris is now running on 3 bases, but it's much slower than Fancy's 3bas. Iris moving toward Fancy's 3rd with 2 dropships, forces a liftoff and SCVs to run. This is exactly what Iris needed to even up the econ score! Fancy with 2 starports without control towers massing up a surprise force of wraiths!! Fancy reclaims his 3rd now, but lost a decent amount of mining time.
Nice drop from Iris to delay Fancy's 3rd. But what matters more is how much damage the wraiths will do when they appear.
On April 25 2010 14:08 Avidkeystamper wrote: Your map orders are wrong.
I'm not exactly sure how this happened considering a triple checked this thing exactly before I posted.... : [ sigh... fixed.
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hidden expo from fancy and commentators/obs hasnt shown it yet.
D: Dropships vs Wraiths T_T
Wraiths snipe most of the dropships and a pile of tanks.
Iris loading up 3 dropships to go back for another strike. Fancy with 6 wraiths, building 2 more. Still waiting to reveal them! Now they're moving towards the dropships!! Only 2 goliaths with the drop, Wraiths instantly take out 1, then follow and kill a dropship and the other goliath. Iris sieges, but with these wraiths the damage will be somewhat limited. Fancy has a fully running ninja expo at 7!!
konadora
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just noticed fancy looks like flying wtf
Fancy playing like a zerg, starting up a 5th already.
Iris doing a major ground push toward Fancy's 3rd--now moving toward the center of the map. Fancy ninja expanding again to 8.
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Fancy being greedy and taking 8 too.
Fancy playing like zerg? 2 ninja expos.
Those Wraiths did there job of taking out 2 dropships a few tanks and a Gol. Now that is about 1k in and gas down the drain as tank gol formation goes up to fancy's 2nd and 3rd.
Iris pushing into Fancy's 3rd--fancy doesn't have many tanks and Iris has a ton of goliaths. Uh oh, Fancy down to just a single wraith now. Some sloppy play lost him a ton of wraiths.
way to waste your wraiths...
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loool fancy getting overzealous here, he has like no units while iris just kills his third.
WOW FANCY GETTING A SIXTH? WTF.
Fancy's tanks were out of position there and Iris steamrolled Fancy's 3rd.
Fancy loses his CC at his 3rd, but responds by taking ANOTHER ninja expo, this time at the 8:00 main's natural.
So many hidden expos from fancy
I think Fancy might be expanding a little too much here.
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Iris spots SCV train heading towards the ninja expos! Looks like Fancy was too greedy by half.
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Lol fancy needs more units and less CCs...
Fancy has like no units and just a ton of SCVs / CCs. Iris knows something's up, and has now spotted the 8:00 ninja. But he doesn't see 7!
Iris scouts 2 of the ninja expos. Still doesn't know about the other one. Probably doesn't expect it seeing as how he already found some.
On April 25 2010 14:17 flamewheel91 wrote: Lol fancy needs more units and less CCs...
Exactly right. It's not sound strategy to keep expanding with no map control.
Fancy is starting to fall apart
On April 25 2010 14:16 GTR wrote: loool fancy getting overzealous here, he has like no units while iris just kills his third.
Those aren't Ninja expos, Fancy is just preemptively starting new bases for the ones he knows Iris will take out.
Fancy's forces getting torn up in the center of the map. Iris has way too much stuff now. Fancy trying to rebuild his 3rd, but it's going to get crushed by Iris' push.
Starcraft 101 Lesson 3: not overdoing things.
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And now fancy drops tanks in the middle of gols and sieges. Sound decision making there...
On April 25 2010 14:18 Qwertify wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:16 GTR wrote: loool fancy getting overzealous here, he has like no units while iris just kills his third.
Those aren't Ninja expos, Fancy is just preemptively starting new bases for the ones he knows Iris will take out.
Iris fighting the Hydra here: for every expansion he kills Fancy builds two more!
Well fancy managed to save a bunch of SCVs there. But they're just sitting there. Iris pushing towards his third again where he's starting to build his cc again. Fancy's 7 oclock still not found. Iris' fourth up.
If iris gets this ninja expo its over
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fancy takes out 5.5 main lol
Fancy dropping Iris' 4th base now, probably going to be able to take it out fairly easily. No wait, 3 dropships of reinforcements on the way! Battle engages, vultures drop on the tanks and lay mines but it isn't enough! Fancy left with 5 tanks and a goliath, forcing the 4th to lift.
That mine could've owned fancy so hard. But it owns iris instead.
lol Iris' mine ends up killing only his units.
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Come on Iris, counter, don't hang around the middle.
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Iris's bottom right CC lifted due to a drop.
commentators: ummmmmmm yepppp
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IRIS's MINE TURNS ON HIM! Iris's fourth now under more siege than it should've been.
SCV massacre at Fancy ninja expo.
Iris finally finds the ninja at 7 and kills everything there! Drop secures Iris' 4th again, while Fancy drops and secures his 3rd.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FINALLY SCOUTED. Iris' vultures massacre scvs. Fancy's now on 2 base.
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fancy dropping and clearing up three lone tanks up at 1:00.
Ninja expo shut down by vultures. It's now 4 base to 2. I dare say Fancy's play was a little too fancy. Iris just built more shit and rolled through the middle.
On April 25 2010 14:21 tree.hugger wrote: IRIS's MINE TURNS ON HIM! Iris's fourth now under more siege than it should've been.
That WAS some great micro by Fancy. Moving that one tank into Iris's forces.
Iris going for a major push now into Fancy's main, drops a TON of goliaths on the factories.
Gol doom drop in fancy's main.
That is alot of fucking goliaths that Iris just dropped. Fancy drops Iris' fourth... but Iris just took out his fac line and his nat..
Fancy losing both his main and his nat simultaneously.
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PURE GOL DROP FOR IRIS IN MAIN LOL. Oh and one tank. fancy going to lose all his factories.
lol Fancy lifts his factories to try to save them, but the enemy composition is almost entirely goliaths so they get demolished in the air.
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Iris sweeping in for the base-roll. Will suceed. Lesson: Greed kills. .
It is over, Fancy cant get those tanks up the ramp nor drop them. GG
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GGGGGGGGGGGGGG BERSERKER he looks fatter every time i see him lmao.
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Hmm okay GG from fancy. Lolol Iris.
gg from fancy..he overexpanded bigtime..
Fancy seemed to have a pretty big lead there :/
fancy absolutely gave away that game
Iris' 2nd win, why did I not believe and put him into my FPL?!
Perfect demonstration of folly of over-extending.
Fancy was way too greedy...
gg by Fancy! Nice one, Iris. That game was really enjoyable to watch. Precise movements, good tactics. Well played by both.
Incredibly silly game by Fancy.
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On April 25 2010 14:24 De4ngus wrote: Wow that kid is BAD.
i think just bad macro =/
I predict Movie will come out and stomp out the last player.
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Rather newbish play by Fancy. I know he's only played a few televised games but the guy has been on the team for years :\
On April 25 2010 14:25 Qwertify wrote: I predict Movie will come out and stomp out the last player.
Unless its Really. His TvP this league has been 10-0.
On April 25 2010 14:24 Kwanroller wrote: Incredibly silly game by Fancy.
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On April 25 2010 14:25 Qwertify wrote: I predict Movie will come out and stomp out the last player.
nah, it's gotta be+ Show Spoiler +
Expecting Snow vs Really. If CJ had another strong zerg they could snipe him but Effort's already been played, and Skyhigh's out, too. I expect Really to win against Movie/Snow/CJ-unknown.
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On April 25 2010 14:25 Qwertify wrote: I predict Movie will come out and stomp out the last player.
Last player will prolly be Really -- he'll crush Movie.
On April 25 2010 14:23 tree.hugger wrote: Iris sweeping in for the base-roll. Will suceed.
Lesson: Greed kills. .
I learned that at C-.
On April 25 2010 14:26 TwoToneTerran wrote: Expecting Snow vs Really. If CJ had another strong zerg they could snipe him but Effort's already been played, and Skyhigh's out, too. I expect Really to win against Movie/Snow/CJ-unknown.
Hydra IS strong. His ZvT is strong enough to beat Really's mediocre TvZ.
Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
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On April 25 2010 14:27 Itachii wrote: Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
??? He won.
On April 25 2010 14:27 SuperArc wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:26 TwoToneTerran wrote: Expecting Snow vs Really. If CJ had another strong zerg they could snipe him but Effort's already been played, and Skyhigh's out, too. I expect Really to win against Movie/Snow/CJ-unknown.
Hydra IS strong.
His ZvT is strong enough to beat Really's mediocre TvZ.
If SC2 were scheduled for 2013, CJ would dominate everything
On April 25 2010 14:27 KizZBG wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:27 Itachii wrote: Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
???
He won.
Probably has Effort on his anti-team.
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On April 25 2010 14:27 KizZBG wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:27 Itachii wrote: Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
???
He won.
Maybe he has Effort on his anti-team?
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On April 25 2010 14:27 KizZBG wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:27 Itachii wrote: Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
???
He won.
And we who have him on our antis grieve.
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On April 25 2010 14:26 TwoToneTerran wrote: Expecting Snow vs Really. If CJ had another strong zerg they could snipe him but Effort's already been played, and Skyhigh's out, too. I expect Really to win against Movie/Snow/CJ-unknown.
maybe they might send hydra :O
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On April 25 2010 14:28 snowdrift86 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:27 KizZBG wrote: On April 25 2010 14:27 Itachii wrote: Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
???
He won.
And we who have him on our antis grieve.
You'll still be #1 probably, what with the + Show Spoiler +
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On April 25 2010 14:28 snowdrift86 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:27 KizZBG wrote: On April 25 2010 14:27 Itachii wrote: Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
???
He won.
And we who have him on our antis grieve.
ahh ok then haha, I don't do any of that fantasy SC :p
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as expected, Really for eSTRO
Really vs Snow. Who would've thought.
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Really v Snow, as predicted/
Really vs. Snow! This should be good. Let's see if Really is worth of the Ace role yet.
Cmon Snow. Show us what Movie/GrandpaMuch has taught
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this incredibly cheesy commercial about pro-league that's supposed to be touching and emotional... yeah, looks like someone's afraid the match fixing scandal + Blizz are gonna kill esports ;o
On April 25 2010 14:25 dani_caliKorea wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:25 Qwertify wrote: I predict Movie will come out and stomp out the last player.
Unless its Really.
His TvP this league has been 10-0.
He lost to stork.
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On April 25 2010 14:32 Random_0 wrote: Really vs. Snow! This should be good. Let's see if Really is worth of the Ace role yet.
he must prove that by winning 2 games in a row
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On April 25 2010 14:30 flamewheel91 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:28 snowdrift86 wrote: On April 25 2010 14:27 KizZBG wrote: On April 25 2010 14:27 Itachii wrote: Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
???
He won.
And we who have him on our antis grieve.
You'll still be #1 probably, what with the
+ Show Spoiler + All the cool kids have Stars as their team, so I'll be behind the smart peeps who have Flying or Soulkey on their mains. Really's gonna put Snow to sleep like Snow White.
Well snows best matchup is TvP.
FD opening for Really. Snow scouts after gateway.
Amusingly, I'm not sure who's the snipe for who. Polaris is a good PvT map and Snow's best MU is PvT, so maybe Really was sent to snipe a protoss in surprise. Or maybe CJ knew that Really would play on the map where protoss was most likely to play, so they sent their best vTer on a protoss favored map and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah meta.
i have really and effort on my anti. ROFLROFL REALLY GO LOSE imagine really wins and an effort vs really ace match for me -.-
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On April 25 2010 14:35 TwoToneTerran wrote: Amusingly, I'm not sure who's the snipe for who. Polaris is a good PvT map and Snow's best MU is PvT, so maybe Really was sent to snipe a protoss in surprise. Or maybe CJ knew that Really would play on the map where protoss was most likely to play, so they sent their best vTer on a protoss favored map and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah meta.
Maybe both teams sent out these two players expressly to play against each other. Which means that we'll get a fun game. Regardless, Snow is finally developing as a reliable A-Team player. This is good.
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On April 25 2010 14:35 TwoToneTerran wrote: Amusingly, I'm not sure who's the snipe for who. Polaris is a good PvT map and Snow's best MU is PvT, so maybe Really was sent to snipe a protoss in surprise. Or maybe CJ knew that Really would play on the map where protoss was most likely to play, so they sent their best vTer on a protoss favored map and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah meta.
Or it could've just been that eSTRO is down 1-2 and had to send their ace player? Hmm though yeah Snow is cute.
On April 25 2010 14:27 KizZBG wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:27 Itachii wrote: Oh Effort, why are you doing this to me
???
He won.
Exactly. We don't want that.
Really being very aggressive about scouting for proxies. No expansion, no range up for Snow. He's had that probe running around the left side of the map looking like it wants to proxy for a while, but nothing yet. Oh ok he starts his expansion right as Really starts moving out.
Really just moves out with the vults to plant some mines, and safely expands at his nat.
Nal_ra and the other commentators joking around alot lol
On April 25 2010 14:37 flamewheel91 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:35 TwoToneTerran wrote: Amusingly, I'm not sure who's the snipe for who. Polaris is a good PvT map and Snow's best MU is PvT, so maybe Really was sent to snipe a protoss in surprise. Or maybe CJ knew that Really would play on the map where protoss was most likely to play, so they sent their best vTer on a protoss favored map and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah meta.
Or it could've just been that eSTRO is down 1-2 and had to send their ace player?
Hmm though yeah Snow is cute.
Well obviously Really trained specifically for this map in the first place. Teams usually hold off on playing their ace player for a morale based effect. "X will pick up a win even if I lose" etcetc.
Gahh, my FPL trades this week = fail. Skyhigh on my main, traded Effort away, traded Flying for Snow, but I also have Really. Best case scenario for me, Snow loses, and Really and Skyhigh play in ace.
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On April 25 2010 14:38 QuothTheRaven wrote: Really being very aggressive about scouting for proxies.
You would too, if GosI[Flying] was practicing his proxy double-gate dt all week. + Show Spoiler + And according to ancient protoss custom, the correct answer is... TWO BASE CARRIERS
Very late goon range coming for Snow. Oh wait, Stargate started! Maybe it's +1 air and he's going 2base fast carriers!
Yup, 2 stargates and a fleet beacon out for Snow!
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2 BASE MOTHERFUCKING CARRIERS
Is that 2 base carriers? LOLOLOL
Someone has been watching Rock vods..
On April 25 2010 14:40 QuothTheRaven wrote: Very late goon range coming for Snow. Oh wait, Stargate started! Maybe it's +1 air and he's going 2base fast carriers!
You sir, are a genius.
really rolls protosses like its his job. i hope he wins and there's an epic ace.
Snow catches some maynarding cvs.
Really knows. Golis coming out, Charon Boosters researching.
Pretty sure really knows whats going on..
really is a freaking pro. charon researching.
He reveals with 2 carriers that have like 3 interceptors each..wtf
2 carriers attacking Really's 3rd, but he already has a ton of turrets to defend it. His expansion's up way before Snow's.
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inb4 people saying really is bad when he loses in ace match
Really getting his min only. Snow getting his third base.
derp... 2 base carriers... I wonder why Snow thought that would work
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On April 25 2010 14:44 konadora wrote: inb4 people saying really is bad when he loses in ace match
kona is cute.
K snow get out so the big boys like Effort can do their job.
Uh. Isn't Snow screwed since he didn't do hardly any damage with his carreiers?
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loses a carrier rofl ROCK-STYLE
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Hmm one carrier down. Goons getting driven back by gol/tank.
On April 25 2010 14:44 JSH wrote: derp... 2 base carriers... I wonder why Snow thought that would work
He clearly has been practicing with Rock, unfortunately for him he just doesn't posses that stubbornness of a rock that rock does.
Snow reveals when he only has two carriers? He'd better have seen Really scan it or something, 'cause that did fuck all. He'd better catch up in bases. At least Really his low upgrades...
+1 attack done for the goliaths. Snow still pumping more carriers, and trying to secure his 4th at bottom left.
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On April 25 2010 14:42 hyst.eric.al wrote: really rolls protosses like its his job.
Playing starcraft for a living... now that'd be the day! Also, Really denies Snow 's carrier push like... a wizard.
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On April 25 2010 14:46 d(O.o)a wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:44 JSH wrote: derp... 2 base carriers... I wonder why Snow thought that would work
He clearly has been practicing with Rock, unfortunately for him he just doesn't posses that
stubbornness bamfness of a rock that rock does.
Hell yeah!
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a billion turrets at 9oclock lol
Well, carriers take out the bay . . . so that's at least something going Snow's way. Still not looking so great for him, since Really now has his 4th base secured.
Really taking fifth, his min only gets hit when he moves out!
Goons break Really's 4th!
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CC survives! ...and burns down.
CC burns down as it flies out of goon range. Really pushing towards Snow's fourth.
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Snow really trying to abuse the bridge area with carriers on one side.
Snow is now up a base! But Really is about to set it back to 3 vs. 3, and is sneaking another base. Snow backstabs!
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really is slowly losing it
Snow pushing in with Carrier + Dragoon :l
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but really has tanks sieging 7
This seems actually quite innovative by Snow. He uses carriers to abuse the cliffs and patrols the middle area. He then uses strike forces of goons to take out selected targets. Really can't move out because all his weak points get picked apart.
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Snow will lose everything in the sandwich.
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Goons + carriers > gols? lol. Really's in trouble?
Wow snow is cleaning shit up. Kills most of golis, so his carriers have free reign now. Loses a carrier but hes cleaned up Really's tanks, and cleaned up atttack on his fourth. Has a carrier at his base just chilling.
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snow playing really amazingly now if only we can have snow + movie combined
Uh oh, Really's forces breaking to carriers now . . .
I guess you don't go 11-0 in Dream League for free.
Finally Really is losing. It's about time my anti team needed a break.
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Snow using his carriers amazingly well. This map is perfectly suited for them, it turns out.
Wow, Really is really bad against carriers wtf was that.
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not sure why he expanded at 12 instead of 10 when he's going goliath/tank though
Really gets a little bit of vulture harass off in the bottom left, but not a huge amount. Carriers now sweeping through and picking off tanks.
Abuse that cliff YEAH!!!!
On April 25 2010 14:51 De4ngus wrote: Wow, Really is really bad against carriers wtf was that.
This map seems perfectly suited to carriers. I don't know that Really can do anything about it.
Really's face looks despondent. Snows face -_-
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On April 25 2010 14:44 konadora wrote: inb4 people saying really is bad when he loses in ace match
looll..dies to mass carriers
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scv's pulled to fight. looking over.
Goon/carrier busting into Really's nat now. Really lost like all his forces.
Effort-->current CJ generation Iris-->past Snow--> future Damn this team has depth,
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On April 25 2010 14:53 konadora wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:44 konadora wrote: inb4 people saying really is bad when he loses in ace match
lol kona.
Beautiful carrier/goon micro by Snow. Flanks a goliath/tank group on Really's side of the map. Really now pulling SCVs to fight!
Carriers > terran with bad positioning.
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On April 25 2010 14:54 Itachii wrote: Just no Effort for ace please!
wut cj wins 3-1
GG YEEEEEEEEAAAAH CEEEEEEEEJAAAAAAAAAAYYYY
On April 25 2010 14:54 Itachii wrote: Just no Effort for ace please!
No need for Ace. I think that's 3 for CJ.
On April 25 2010 14:54 SuperArc wrote: Effort-->current CJ generation Iris-->past Snow--> future Damn this team has depth,
You're forgetting the best player GG!!!SORRY I DOUBTED YOU SNOW
that is some serious carrier abuse. i think snow just popularized carriers on this map.
On April 25 2010 14:54 SuperArc wrote: Effort-->current CJ generation Iris-->past Snow--> future Damn this team has depth,
I'm not disagreeing but depth doesn't necessarily mean having a ancestry.
Wow beautifully played. Army movement and decision making were really good.
On April 25 2010 14:54 Itachii wrote: lol
ninja edit
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Really gets snowjobbed.On April 25 2010 14:44 konadora wrote: inb4 people saying really is bad when he loses in ace match
So do we say he's really bad for not even making it to the ace ?
On April 25 2010 14:54 SuperArc wrote: Effort-->current CJ generation Iris-->past Snow--> future Damn this team has depth,
If by depth you mean ability to beat eSTRO of all teams, then yes.
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On April 25 2010 14:51 tree.hugger wrote: Snow using his carriers amazingly well. This map is perfectly suited for them, it turns out.
On April 25 2010 14:52 Random_0 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:51 De4ngus wrote: Wow, Really is really bad against carriers wtf was that.
This map seems perfectly suited to carriers. I don't know that Really can do anything about it.
On April 25 2010 14:55 hyst.eric.al wrote: that is some serious carrier abuse. i think snow just popularized carriers on this map.
I win, you all owe me royalties. And SNOW !!!!VIDEO
Snow is great lately with wins over Leta Kal and now Really.He sure has potential
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On April 25 2010 14:55 yes9111 wrote: Wow beautifully played.Army movement and decision making were really good.
yes, the individual carrier and dragoon movements so that Really can't attack, while losing tanks to carriers and goliaths to goons... it was beautiful to watch.
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As Idra would say
Snow's strategy was pretty damn good. Even though a couple times he lost carriers a bit sloppily (and left 2 carriers in his base). He always prevented Really from attacking with his main force and managed to snipe the tanks with his carriers during the battles. Being able to catch Really out of position helped too.
Really definitely could not afford to move out with his entire army. He probably should've just held the four bases he had, and used small vulture groups for harassment.
On April 25 2010 14:55 okum wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:54 SuperArc wrote: Effort-->current CJ generation Iris-->past Snow--> future Damn this team has depth,
If by depth you mean ability to beat eSTRO of all teams, then yes.
We are the first team to beat estro before ace.
Wow tonight's games were just terrible.
This map is looking more and more like the next coming of Katrina.
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On April 25 2010 15:00 JadeFist wrote: Wow tonight's games were just terrible.
didnt watch first two games, but the last game was well played by Snow. Unless you're saying it's terrible play by Really, which isn't quite true either.
On April 25 2010 14:56 tree.hugger wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:51 tree.hugger wrote: Snow using his carriers amazingly well. This map is perfectly suited for them, it turns out.
Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:52 Random_0 wrote: On April 25 2010 14:51 De4ngus wrote: Wow, Really is really bad against carriers wtf was that.
This map seems perfectly suited to carriers. I don't know that Really can do anything about it.
Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:55 hyst.eric.al wrote: that is some serious carrier abuse. i think snow just popularized carriers on this map.
I win, you all owe me royalties.
And
SNOW !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcXSm51UI5M i'll give you a snowjob, tree.hugger.
On April 25 2010 15:02 konadora wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 15:00 JadeFist wrote: Wow tonight's games were just terrible.
didnt watch first two games, but the last game was well played by Snow.
Unless you're saying it's terrible play by Really, which isn't quite true either.
I just didn't enjoy them at all. Watching Really vs Snow was painful.
On April 25 2010 15:00 JadeFist wrote: Wow tonight's games were just terrible.
The first game (ZvZ) was insane, I've rarely seen a 12hatch beat 9pool so beautifully before. And the last one was nice too.
Mystlord streaming a bizarre game... nal_ra reacts to upmagic's M&M opening by sacrificing lots of shuttles and reavers trying to break upmagic's ramp, and it looks like he will lose as a consequence.
Really lost a TvP... to SNOW? Wtf mang .
IRIS. My hero. Welcome back my friend.
Got raped hard in the FPL due to this series' results. Dropping more than a hundred places. Thanks a lot Action and EffOrt.
On April 25 2010 14:55 hyst.eric.al wrote: that is some serious carrier abuse. i think snow just popularized carriers on this map.
I think stork was the one that used carriers to own his opponent first. I forgot who he owned, but boy did he annihilate him.
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On April 25 2010 16:56 hacpee wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 14:55 hyst.eric.al wrote: that is some serious carrier abuse. i think snow just popularized carriers on this map.
I think stork was the one that used carriers to own his opponent first. I forgot who he owned, but boy did he annihilate him.
Stork used Carriers vs someone so invisible that people can't ever remember his name or who he is. But Flying had crushed Koala with carriers before that game too.
Hahaha, love it when skyhigh loses.
On April 26 2010 05:24 Harem wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2010 16:56 hacpee wrote: On April 25 2010 14:55 hyst.eric.al wrote: that is some serious carrier abuse. i think snow just popularized carriers on this map.
I think stork was the one that used carriers to own his opponent first. I forgot who he owned, but boy did he annihilate him.
Stork used Carriers vs Sea.
But Flying had crushed Koala with carriers before that game too.
Light, not Sea, but yes.
snow beat Really? thats pretty sexy
Im just glad that from "Fuck ya Effort!!" it went to "Fuck yea Effort!!!" I hope this is the beginning of the end (of your sucking ) Edit: and lol at the self-"manner"-spire:D
I liked the last game, goliaths vs carriers is always epic to watch.