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kyzers0ze
Singapore1073 Posts
On February 19 2010 20:33 zerotol wrote: Dumb play from killer. He should have tried a 4/5 pool the second game. He had the right plan using cheese the first game and it worked, so why not try it again. It wasn't cheese. He had he legitimate backup plan. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
On February 19 2010 20:37 zerotol wrote: Hwasin is as mediocre as Killer is except in TvZ. He will just loose against anyone next round anyway. completely false hwasin's TvP is bad because of TvBisu. bisu is hwasin's kryptonite. take away his W-L record vs bisu and he's at 52.7% TvP and career overall winrate of 57.3%. that is not bad considering he has played over 350 games. seriously, he's just super unlucky to somehow manage to play against bisu 15 times. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On February 19 2010 20:44 LosingID8 wrote: completely false hwasin's TvP is bad because of TvBisu. bisu is hwasin's kryptonite. take away his W-L record vs bisu and he's at 52.7% TvP and career overall winrate of 57.3%. that is not bad considering he has played over 350 games. seriously, he's just super unlucky to somehow manage to play against bisu 15 times. Don't forget TvJangbi, TvKal and TvBest. It's really amazing how many games he's been put up vs top tosses. | ||
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Orbifold
United States1922 Posts
On February 19 2010 20:44 LosingID8 wrote: completely false hwasin's TvP is bad because of TvBisu. bisu is hwasin's kryptonite. take away his W-L record vs bisu and he's at 52.7% TvP and career overall winrate of 57.3%. that is not bad considering he has played over 350 games. seriously, he's just super unlucky to somehow manage to play against bisu 15 times. If you take 15 games vs top players out of any body's record it's going to look much better. | ||
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seRapH
United States9830 Posts
well, it was pretty easy considering killer's ZvP and hwasin's inability to fall beforoe ro16 | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On February 19 2010 20:53 Orbifold wrote: If you take 15 games vs top players out of any body's record it's going to look much better. But in Hwasin's case it's not top players, it's one single player. He has played Bisu 15 times, thats just plain bad luck or a testament of how far Hwasin usually goes in ILs. | ||
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LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
On February 19 2010 20:56 SuperArc wrote: But in Hwasin's case it's not top players, it's one single player. He has played Bisu 15 times, thats just plain bad luck or a testament of how far Hwasin usually goes in ILs. to be exact, 13 times against Bisu in individual leagues ALONE that sucks man | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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disciple
9071 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On February 19 2010 21:29 disciple wrote: Every group stage of OSL with Hwasin in it should be called Ro15 ouch, thats harsh I know what you mean though :p | ||
Jonvvv
Norway1530 Posts
On February 19 2010 20:59 LosingID8 wrote: to be exact, 13 times against Bisu in individual leagues ALONE that sucks man Yeah. I wrote this not too long ago in another thread, might aswell post it here... just look at his MSL record before Avalon MSL. GomTV S1 ro4 - lost to  sAviOr 2-3 (sAviOr won the OSL)GomTV S2 ro8 - lost to  Bisu 2-3 (Bisu won the MSL)GomTV S3 ro16 - lost to Bisu 1-2 (Bisu made the MSL finals)GomTV S4 ro16 - lost to  Flash 0-2 (Flash won the OSL)Arena MSL ro8 - lost to Jaedong 1-3 (Jaedong made the MSL finals)Clubday MSL ro16 - lost to Bisu 0-2 (Bisu won the MSL)Lost Saga MSL ro16- lost to Luxury 1-2 (Luxury won the MSL) | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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Shkaii
Korea (South)105 Posts
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Shkaii
Korea (South)105 Posts
◆Race Terran(2) Flash, Hwasin Zerg(3) - Shine, Calm, Kwanro Protoss(3) - Movie, Kal, Stork ◆Team STX(3) - Calm, Kal, Hwasin KT(1) - Flash CJ(1) - Movie Wemade(1) - Shine Samsung(1) - Stork Woongjin(1) - gangyu | ||
rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On February 17 2010 14:24 rotinegg wrote: ppl betting that geumchi will get passed hwasin seriously? SERIOUSLY? an OSL/MSL is not an SL without hwasin in the RO16. If I bet on every SL that Hwasin would make it to the RO16, I could go into fucking retirement in a few years and live off that money for the rest of my life, with some to spare for my children's college education. | ||
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Upchurch
United States15 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On February 20 2010 01:14 Upchurch wrote: any ggs? the recommended games box is empty... I saw Guemchi vs Killer only and I would recommend none. Game 3 was meh, but the rest were pretty bad | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On February 20 2010 01:14 Upchurch wrote: any ggs? the recommended games box is empty... Watch game 4 if you like to see how to end ZvTs with just lings, but besides that, all games weren't any good. Watch game 1 for some "omg fucking fail" as killer loses all his hydras to pratically 2 cannons and probes and guechmi loses a full health sair to 1 hydra with nothing else going on in the game. | ||
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