In this thread, the results for the Korean Air OSL Offline Qualifiers will be updated. The format has shamelessly been copied from p4NDemik, and the groups have been shamelessly copied from konadora's informative post.
oh god, i pray that bisu doesnt fuck up.... same goes for best, violet, free, jangbi and kal. so many tosses in danger of getting eliminated early on. i cant stand another poor season for toss.... plz no.
You know, I remember the time when prelims tend to have even 9-player groups. Now half of them are 7-player groups. Is the SC scene really declining that hard in Korea?
As for the prelims, rooting for Khan players, and rooting for FBH vs Idra final.
On February 05 2010 11:03 baubo wrote: You know, I remember the time when prelims tend to have even 9-player groups. Now half of them are 7-player groups. Is the SC scene really declining that hard in Korea?
As for the prelims, rooting for Khan players, and rooting for FBH vs Idra final.
It's because there are more groups in the ro36 - they need 24 players for that instead of the 18 or so they used to need
No one remembers Mell when he tried to play PvZ like PvT against Great last season...and almost got away with it on HBR. Macro macro macro. Flying =[ disappointing. Though his level has dropped from his initial games.
On February 05 2010 12:12 KizZBG wrote: arghhh >_<
How does Flying play so well on TV and so average offline.
To be honest he hasn't been playing so well lately. I've read that he didn't practice as hard when he made A-team. Hope this isn't true, because he has the potential to make a deep mark on progaming.
Possible Luxury vs Midas finals in group 8. I would cheer for Han because not enough protoss are making it, but Leta deserves it a lot more. G-chizzle should be able to handle Last without a problem though.
Woah, a huge MnM drop kills the entirety of Luxury's main. He tries to counter with some lurkers and a defiler but everything gets irradiated eventualy. He also loses a decent amount of drones to an eraser at his min only. Luxury's natural is also dead, but he has ultras now?
Luxury looking comfortable now with a 4th gas just to the right of midas' main.
One dropship gets sniped trying to drop Luxes main! lings vs mnm is a bad choice from luxury! mound goes down! spire down! evos down! WHERE IS LUX's ARMY???? HIVE DOWN DEN DOWN POOL DOWN!!
counter attack at midas natural and third forces lifts at both
ULTRAS ABOUT TO POP eraser at lux's mineral only and at his fourth
On February 05 2010 13:10 Mystlord wrote: Fuck yeah Lux sucks.
By the way, I don't think we can access every single game... =_=
Have you figured out how to access ANY other games? I've been clicking around ogn with no results. WTF ogn? this was supposed to be sooooo sweet. I want to watch idra!!!!!
On February 05 2010 13:10 Mystlord wrote: Fuck yeah Lux sucks.
By the way, I don't think we can access every single game... =_=
Have you figured out how to access ANY other games? I've been clicking around ogn with no results. WTF ogn? this was supposed to be sooooo sweet. I want to watch idra!!!!!
From what I can tell, you can't access every game. You can access some though.
On February 05 2010 13:31 scyper wrote: So on the OGN official website, I got the pop-up TV player to come up and now I'm watching Leta vs some Protoss. Who else can I watch and how? Thanks!
hover your mouse over the screen and on the bottom bar that pops up click the little green tv and there should be two different live streams to choose.
Han desperately trying to hold off with stasis and arbiter cloaking but it's not gonna be enough. Han suicides a ton of goons into mines to force a lift at leta's 4th.
Han's main getting completely destroyed. It's just a matter of time
Wow I don't really understand what is going on in this game. There are a ton of lifted buildings just floating around and midas is traveling around with an army trying to kill off luxury's bases. Midas has no bases whatsoever.
I wish I had been watching this game the whole time!
Midas keeps attacking his own barracks on accident.
God he's so terrible, it's as if Midas doesn't even know how to make medics. Four medics for 3 control groups of marines. If he loses to Luxury then LOL to him.
Anyone else having huge issues with Livestream? It was working fine for me yesterday as I watched most of the MST before going to sleep, but now when I try to use it in either firefox OR chrome it crashes my browser. Sometimes it'll work for a few seconds before crashing and giving me hte "report" dialogue.
Anyone had this problem before? I've already ran my anti viruses and cleared my cache/history/etc. =(
can someone explain how to switch between streams? on the bottom bar i have a pause button, a duration bar, a tiny black tv with LIVE on it, volume, and fullscreen
Why is the OP having hte final results NOT included in teh spoiler? It's like "here's the bracket int he spoiler..." then the bolded winner right after... :S
On February 05 2010 14:14 GTR wrote: Anyone know how the Multi-Live TV System works?
It's an awful system. Basically I think they have like two pairs of commentators and you can choose to switch between one game or another game. I've tried it various times and that seems to be all you can get. It's not an efficient system to be honest.
On February 05 2010 14:14 GTR wrote: Anyone know how the Multi-Live TV System works?
It's an awful system. Basically I think they have like two pairs of commentators and you can choose to switch between one game or another game. I've tried it various times and that seems to be all you can get. It's not an efficient system to be honest.
Then again, they'd have 2 commentators not doing anything. And streaming 2 games is better than nothing.
Kal just suicided a good 12-15 zlots into that giant mech ball. Kal is getting his 2nd main and nat sieged while he forces Xellos to lift third. Kal also losing the 9 base to 2 tanks. CC BURNS DOWN AT 3
Recall from Kal going to take out all the depots and armories. Xellos pushing into Kal's main, but kal has a second main and Xellos is going to get eliminated at this rate.
On February 05 2010 15:13 IdrA wrote: if the commentators define protoss struggling as having 12 carriers i wonder what a good situation for p would be
On February 05 2010 15:13 IdrA wrote: if the commentators define protoss struggling as having 12 carriers i wonder what a good situation for p would be
On February 05 2010 15:13 IdrA wrote: if the commentators define protoss struggling as having 12 carriers i wonder what a good situation for p would be
On February 05 2010 15:13 IdrA wrote: if the commentators define protoss struggling as having 12 carriers i wonder what a good situation for p would be
On February 05 2010 15:13 IdrA wrote: if the commentators define protoss struggling as having 12 carriers i wonder what a good situation for p would be
After helping Jaedong prepare for the MSL Semis excessively (as Jaedong stated in his interview) I expect him to own Hydra.
Hiya should take his evening group rather easily. Best of luck to Bee, and Dongrae as well!!! Too bad for Mell...though he was able to roll over some good Terrans in these two days of qualifiers.
On February 05 2010 15:58 Itachii wrote: so i guess we probably won't see idra's game again?seems like everyone is watching same stream/game and it was supposed to be "pickwhatyouwant" yes?
On February 05 2010 15:58 Itachii wrote: so i guess we probably won't see idra's game again?seems like everyone is watching same stream/game and it was supposed to be "pickwhatyouwant" yes?
On February 05 2010 15:58 Itachii wrote: so i guess we probably won't see idra's game again?seems like everyone is watching same stream/game and it was supposed to be "pickwhatyouwant" yes?
On February 05 2010 16:03 Itachii wrote: bah oh well hope greg gets air time today.
i want to see idra vs Firebathero for the ultimate BM match. With SuperDanielMan and Tastless commentating. Winner gets a night with Tossgirl, loser has to give up BMing forever
Quote American Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes; "The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent."
Pretty sure calling a Bisu loss when Bisu hasn't (yet?) lost is illegal.
And just as I type that teal ggs........way to make me look stupid lol. Nice attempt at the comeback. Dropping on the facts almostttttttt brought him back in the game.
On February 05 2010 16:17 MrHoon wrote: BISU WINS YESSSSSSSSSSSS
1:1
GOGO BISU
NO MORE PCBANG FOR YOU
Wtf? I leave the room for not even 5 minutes and Bisu's up a game?
He 4-probed Action.
Yea, that's just the thing about PvZ, isn't it? If you hear that a game ended in less than 5 minutes, the odds are overwhelmingly against the Protoss having won...
On February 05 2010 16:17 MrHoon wrote: BISU WINS YESSSSSSSSSSSS
1:1
GOGO BISU
NO MORE PCBANG FOR YOU
Wtf? I leave the room for not even 5 minutes and Bisu's up a game?
He 4-probed Action.
Yea, that's just the thing about PvZ, isn't it? If you hear that a game ended in less than 5 minutes, the odds are overwhelmingly against the Protoss having won...
It would be better for bisu to have the game last longer
Considering how sloppy he has been playing and losing to lesser players we are all glad HE DID. Hopefully Bisu picks up his act and does well this OSL. Make it out of Ro36 AT LEAST.
Not only is half of that glorious frame devoted to sAviOr looking like he's going to beat you up in a back alley, but the other half is devoted to a slightly out of focus, but nevertheless stalwart Gregory Fields.
by.hero, I'm really happy for you, but you shouldn't have to go through a hero of starcraft like that. Better show you're not a random scrub once you actually play in the OSL!
On February 05 2010 17:40 FastEddieV wrote: by.hero, I'm really happy for you, but you shouldn't have to go through a hero of starcraft like that. Better show you're not a random scrub once you actually play in the OSL!
uh, hero isn't a random scrub. He's been a pretty decent Zerg, especially ZvP for a while now.
idra isnt strong enough to take on a-teamers afaik ... so he`d better win all non-kor events to get some morale ... after cleaning toilets he can be very depressed!
On February 05 2010 17:40 FastEddieV wrote: by.hero, I'm really happy for you, but you shouldn't have to go through a hero of starcraft like that. Better show you're not a random scrub once you actually play in the OSL!
uh, hero isn't a random scrub. He's been a pretty decent Zerg, especially ZvP for a while now.
Note I am a STX fan... I'm just saying lately his performance hasn't been so great, so this had better not be a fluke, is my meaning.
Frozen is by no means bad, and Skyhigh has never had glorious results in the individual leagues. Granted, it was a TvT, but I don't see it as a big upset. Jangbi vs Spear on the other hand...
That was Baby's loss completely. He just had to attack expansions and he would have been in a much better position. He just waited with his MnM doing nothing most of the time.
It looks to me as if Baby was trying to copy Flash's two base play, but it's even quite risky when Flash does it, so uhm... better not do it if you don't have 'Lee Young Ho' written in your ID.
God I love the crazy zerg build. It's such a razor's edge. Those were some Savior-esque swarms as well. Perfectly placed. I also enjoyed the conga-line of swarms to Baby's natural.
On February 05 2010 18:20 Mooncat wrote: It looks to me as if Baby was trying to copy Flash's two base play, but it's even quite risky when Flash does it, so uhm... better not do it if you don't have 'Lee Young Ho' written in your ID.
Mass SK off 2base is the proper response to what Savior did. Saying he shouldn't do it because he isn't Flash is ridiculous.
And Savior didn't get defiler mound first because that defeats the purpose of his build.
On February 05 2010 18:34 Warrior Madness wrote: Hmmm... Why did tossgirl forfeit the control of the middle? Seems like she could've reionforced it and sent small groups of units to kill the bases.
On February 05 2010 18:34 Mooncat wrote: It'd love to see tossgirl vs. idra one day... Maybe her pretty face could calm his nerdrage.
It's already happened before.
Idra won.
She cried.
For real? o.O
Yes.
It was in ESWC.
Any moment in your progaming career that you enjoyed and that you regretted or wanna take back? - I enjoyed beating male progamers at prelims. ^^ A regretful moment was when I lost to non-Korean players at ESWC. I felt good after beating Chinese players, but after losing to (T)IdrA, I cried a lot (though I don't usually cry; maybe the national pride got me.). It felt horrible.
Any moment in your progaming career that you enjoyed and that you regretted or wanna take back? - I enjoyed beating male progamers at prelims. ^^ A regretful moment was when I lost to non-Korean players at ESWC. I felt good after beating Chinese players, but after losing to (T)IdrA, I cried a lot (though I don't usually cry; maybe the national pride got me.). It felt horrible.
Oh fuck ESWC. I get all these acronyms mixed up. I just remember it was the Asia thing.
I'm no expert on TvZ, and maybe there's a reason why he's sticking to Hydra-Lurker, but even the commentators are saying that he won't be able to get through with that combination...
Actually it'd be all the more awesome if he beats him without hive tech. It's funny to see how he's in good control of the game without ultras, swarm, plague, etc.
I've never seen more dumb, stubborn play (not even Best never getting templars in a 40 minute game). Savior basically invented defilers. I guess this is what he's been reduced to now.
On February 05 2010 18:50 Mooncat wrote: Actually it'd be all the more awesome if he beats him without hive tech. It's funny to see how he's in good control of the game without ultras, swarm, plague, etc.
If having no chance of winning at all means being in good control, I agree.
On February 05 2010 18:50 Mooncat wrote: Actually it'd be all the more awesome if he beats him without hive tech. It's funny to see how he's in good control of the game without ultras, swarm, plague, etc.
If having no chance of winning at all means being in good control, I agree.
Yeah, in retrospect... maybe he wasn't in such good control of game :>
When it comes to MJY my optimism always gets the better of me. My sAviOr fanboyism is even worse than my Flash fanboyism.
His defiler play in the last game was so good... and even so, if I sometimes go for something like mass macro hydralurkerling in ZvP or whatever, I still always get hive for adrenaline glands and the upgrades if nothing more. It's just a terrible decision to ever skip hive. And in ZvT you actually really need the hive tech so that was just really baadddd.
Savior's opening was really confusing.... can someone explain it to me? It seemed to be working as well until baby pushed into his natural. It looked like he was expecting baby to push around the 5:30 mark as flash does, so he delayed his 3rd and got a den instead then mutas (I thought he was gonna fake mutas and go lurkers). Then he double expos? By the time baby's midgame push starts Savior doesn't have enough lurkers, or anything to delay the ball and consume finishes JUST as baby is on his doorstep. I think the only real problem was that Savior swarmed infront of his sunkens, where he had no forces, instead of over his lurkers near his sunken.
So baby simply ran past that swarm and cleaned up the defenceless lurkers and everything else easily. I know you're supposed to swarm a bit further out, so you can push the terran further from your hatchery but Savior didn't have enough forces to really do that... I think what lost him the game was that one move.
On February 05 2010 19:17 .risingdragoon wrote: tbh I haven't seen a real maestro-ish game from savior since bisu chopped him down in osl after that msl final
he used to play like he's really conducting the game flow. it was really something back then. no more of that now
On February 05 2010 19:17 Warrior Madness wrote: Savior's opening was really confusing.... can someone explain it to me? It seemed to be working as well until baby pushed into his natural. It looked like he was expecting baby to push around the 5:30 mark as flash does, so he delayed his 3rd and got a den instead then mutas (I thought he was gonna fake mutas and go lurkers). Then he double expos? By the time baby's midgame push starts Savior doesn't have enough lurkers, or anything to delay the ball and consume finishes JUST as baby is on his doorstep. I think the only real problem was that Savior swarmed infront of his sunkens, where he had no forces, instead of over his lurkers near his sunken.
So baby cleaned that up easily. I know you're supposed to swarm a bit further out, so you can push the terran further from your hatchery but Savior didn't have enough forces to really do that... I think what lost him the game was that one move.
At that timing he has gas for like 12 Lurkers. He just fucked up. (the fucking up proven by about 4-5 simultaneous defilers, which could have been 1 defiler and 6 more lurkers and then he'd have had like 10 lurkers to defend)
At that timing he has gas for like 12 Lurkers. He just fucked up. (the fucking up proven by about 4-5 simultaneous defilers, which could have been 1 defiler and 6 more lurkers and then he'd have had like 10 lurkers to defend)
That wasn't normal timing though. His 3rd gas was like 40 seconds late, plus he spent extra minerals on that 4th hatchery.
At that timing he has gas for like 12 Lurkers. He just fucked up. (the fucking up proven by about 4-5 simultaneous defilers, which could have been 1 defiler and 6 more lurkers and then he'd have had like 10 lurkers to defend)
That wasn't normal timing though. His 3rd gas was like 40 seconds late, plus he spent extra minerals on that 4th hatchery.
Lurkers don't really cost minerals, and you always get the hatch anyway, just in your main, so that makes no difference. I guess the 3rd gas was a bit late but you can still get about 12 Lurkers by that time, even 10 would have been more than enough. Oh yeah, and he did have enough gas for those simultaneous defilers so he couldn't have been that low on gas.
Wow I just checked in for the results.. how the hell does Frozen keep making it into OSL? Is he secretly not terrible or does he just have a charmed life in OSL?
On February 05 2010 19:42 dmfg wrote: Wow I just checked in for the results.. how the hell does Frozen keep making it into OSL? Is he secretly not terrible or does he just have a charmed life in OSL?
Was ranked #1 in Khan practice games for a while etc, I imagine he just chokes online.
On February 05 2010 19:42 dmfg wrote: Wow I just checked in for the results.. how the hell does Frozen keep making it into OSL? Is he secretly not terrible or does he just have a charmed life in OSL?
Frozean is pretty much Mr. Average, which means he'd pretty much smack most of these B, or really bad A, teamers around silly. Besides that really awful 0-12 (?) loss streak in proleague a while back, he's really not as bad as basically everyone on TL thinks he is.
The fact he gets played more than Hwasin, Bogus, or Notice in proleague suggests something about his skill level.
On February 05 2010 19:42 dmfg wrote: Wow I just checked in for the results.. how the hell does Frozen keep making it into OSL? Is he secretly not terrible or does he just have a charmed life in OSL?
Frozean is pretty much Mr. Average, which means he'd pretty much smack most of these B, or really bad A, teamers around silly. Besides that really awful 0-12 (?) loss streak in proleague a while back, he's really not as bad as basically everyone on TL thinks he is.
The fact he gets played more than Hwasin, Bogus, or Notice in proleague suggests something about his skill level.
NsP_Action told me FrOzen has the best TvZ in STX (yes, even better than HwaSIn), because his late-game TvZ is the best in STX.
On February 05 2010 19:42 dmfg wrote: Wow I just checked in for the results.. how the hell does Frozen keep making it into OSL? Is he secretly not terrible or does he just have a charmed life in OSL?
Was ranked #1 in Khan practice games for a while etc, I imagine he just chokes online.
On February 05 2010 19:42 dmfg wrote: Wow I just checked in for the results.. how the hell does Frozen keep making it into OSL? Is he secretly not terrible or does he just have a charmed life in OSL?
Frozean is pretty much Mr. Average, which means he'd pretty much smack most of these B, or really bad A, teamers around silly. Besides that really awful 0-12 (?) loss streak in proleague a while back, he's really not as bad as basically everyone on TL thinks he is.
The fact he gets played more than Hwasin, Bogus, or Notice in proleague suggests something about his skill level.
NsP_Action told me FrOzen has the best TvZ in STX (yes, even better than HwaSIn), because his late-game TvZ is the best in STX.
On February 05 2010 19:42 dmfg wrote: Wow I just checked in for the results.. how the hell does Frozen keep making it into OSL? Is he secretly not terrible or does he just have a charmed life in OSL?
Frozean is pretty much Mr. Average, which means he'd pretty much smack most of these B, or really bad A, teamers around silly. Besides that really awful 0-12 (?) loss streak in proleague a while back, he's really not as bad as basically everyone on TL thinks he is.
The fact he gets played more than Hwasin, Bogus, or Notice in proleague suggests something about his skill level.
NsP_Action told me FrOzen has the best TvZ in STX (yes, even better than HwaSIn), because his late-game TvZ is the best in STX.
Yeah I imagined it was something like that. At first I thought STX was just playing around with their new terran but after R1 and R2, I knew something had to be up since Frozean pretty much put the whole STX terran line jobless.
On February 05 2010 19:56 MrHoon wrote: Baby wants his last game untelevised so today's broadcast ends
Say what now? Seriously? They can request that games not be televised?
it's stupid, boxer did it yesterday and it seems baby has taken advantage of it and did it for today.
Well... do they at least have to state a reason or something? Is it because they don't want a strategy of theirs revealed? Or what? Are they embarrassed?
On February 05 2010 19:42 dmfg wrote: Wow I just checked in for the results.. how the hell does Frozen keep making it into OSL? Is he secretly not terrible or does he just have a charmed life in OSL?
Was ranked #1 in Khan practice games for a while etc, I imagine he just chokes online.
On February 05 2010 19:56 MrHoon wrote: Baby wants his last game untelevised so today's broadcast ends
Say what now? Seriously? They can request that games not be televised?
it's stupid, boxer did it yesterday and it seems baby has taken advantage of it and did it for today.
Well... do they at least have to state a reason or something? Is it because they don't want a strategy of theirs revealed? Or what? Are they embarrassed?
I don't know for Boxer, but Baby's coach wanted his games untelevised because it will stress him up
On February 05 2010 20:00 ItsBigfoot wrote: an Oz toss and a Woongjin terran make it out, but Sea and Violet drown. wtf
Sea and Violet failing in offlines 2-3? times in a row goes beyong choking imo.
I am starting to think they are overrated...
What? Violet maybe (was there actually any hype for Violet?) but Sea definitely chokes really hard when it comes to individual leagues (as does Light).
Just because they suck at individual leagues does not mean they are not good.
On February 05 2010 20:00 ItsBigfoot wrote: an Oz toss and a Woongjin terran make it out, but Sea and Violet drown. wtf
Sea and Violet failing in offlines 2-3? times in a row goes beyong choking imo.
I am starting to think they are overrated...
What? Violet maybe (was there actually any hype for Violet?) but Sea definitely chokes really hard when it comes to individual leagues (as does Light).
Just because they suck at individual leagues does not mean they are not good.
light makes it out of his pools though, even made it to the Ro8 in the msl last season
On February 05 2010 20:00 ItsBigfoot wrote: an Oz toss and a Woongjin terran make it out, but Sea and Violet drown. wtf
Sea and Violet failing in offlines 2-3? times in a row goes beyong choking imo.
I am starting to think they are overrated...
What? Violet maybe (was there actually any hype for Violet?) but Sea definitely chokes really hard when it comes to individual leagues (as does Light).
Just because they suck at individual leagues does not mean they are not good.
Light usually makes it to the MSL Ro36 and OSL Ro36. When was the last time Sea did?
This is really beyond choking, its not like Sea never qualified he did years ago..
On February 05 2010 19:56 MrHoon wrote: Baby wants his last game untelevised so today's broadcast ends
Say what now? Seriously? They can request that games not be televised?
it's stupid, boxer did it yesterday and it seems baby has taken advantage of it and did it for today.
Well... do they at least have to state a reason or something? Is it because they don't want a strategy of theirs revealed? Or what? Are they embarrassed?
I don't know for Boxer, but Baby's coach wanted his games untelevised because it will stress him up
On February 05 2010 19:56 MrHoon wrote: Baby wants his last game untelevised so today's broadcast ends
Say what now? Seriously? They can request that games not be televised?
it's stupid, boxer did it yesterday and it seems baby has taken advantage of it and did it for today.
Well... do they at least have to state a reason or something? Is it because they don't want a strategy of theirs revealed? Or what? Are they embarrassed?
I don't know for Boxer, but Baby's coach wanted his games untelevised because it will stress him up
Just don't tell them imo
you know that was the first thing I thought when I heard that too lol
On February 05 2010 20:06 Coffee wrote: and isnt it better they get used to the stress of broadcasted games so they dont choke >_<
Yeah but it would be better to get used to that in the later rounds where being televized is unavoidable. Getting through the offlines is the most important thing right now
On February 05 2010 19:56 MrHoon wrote: Baby wants his last game untelevised so today's broadcast ends
Say what now? Seriously? They can request that games not be televised?
it's stupid, boxer did it yesterday and it seems baby has taken advantage of it and did it for today.
Well... do they at least have to state a reason or something? Is it because they don't want a strategy of theirs revealed? Or what? Are they embarrassed?
I don't know for Boxer, but Baby's coach wanted his games untelevised because it will stress him up
Then, why would they let them televise his games vs Savior?
On February 05 2010 19:56 MrHoon wrote: Baby wants his last game untelevised so today's broadcast ends
Say what now? Seriously? They can request that games not be televised?
it's stupid, boxer did it yesterday and it seems baby has taken advantage of it and did it for today.
Well... do they at least have to state a reason or something? Is it because they don't want a strategy of theirs revealed? Or what? Are they embarrassed?
I don't know for Boxer, but Baby's coach wanted his games untelevised because it will stress him up
Then, why would they let them televise his games vs Savior?
Savior = ratings up!
Maybe the coach thought that baby sucked in those games and thus decided that baby gets nervous
On February 05 2010 19:56 MrHoon wrote: Baby wants his last game untelevised so today's broadcast ends
Say what now? Seriously? They can request that games not be televised?
it's stupid, boxer did it yesterday and it seems baby has taken advantage of it and did it for today.
Well... do they at least have to state a reason or something? Is it because they don't want a strategy of theirs revealed? Or what? Are they embarrassed?
I don't know for Boxer, but Baby's coach wanted his games untelevised because it will stress him up
Then, why would they let them televise his games vs Savior?
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
The difference is Bisu is 20 and past his peak and Flash is 17 and still has possibilities to improve.
ATM Jaedong is at his peak, but after a year or so Flash will most likely dominate everyone.
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
Let's hope for this to happen. I really miss watching Bisu in prime form. Multitasking everywhere, a glorious sight to watch indeed.
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
The difference is Bisu is 20 and past his peak and Flash is 17 and still has possibilities to improve.
ATM Jaedong is at his peak, but after a year or so Flash will most likely dominate everyone.
how do you know bisu is past his peak? coz he's 20?
On February 05 2010 22:08 dibbaN wrote: sKyHigh, Hyuk, UpMaGiC not qualifying, wow, quite surprising. Though Lomo qualifying is as much of a surprise I guess!
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
The difference is Bisu is 20 and past his peak and Flash is 17 and still has possibilities to improve.
ATM Jaedong is at his peak, but after a year or so Flash will most likely dominate everyone.
how do you know bisu is past his peak? coz he's 20?
I'd say career age is more telling than chronological age. And judging from career age, bisu is past his peak. He's been a progamer for about 5 years now. Judging from past bonjwas and notable players, players start to peak at around years 3 or 4. Jaedong is at year 4 and flash at year 3. FYI, this is the start of baby's third year even though he's only 15. IIRC Oov started dominating everyone at 20/21 years old. He was relatively old, but that was in his 3rd or 4th year.
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
The difference is Bisu is 20 and past his peak and Flash is 17 and still has possibilities to improve.
ATM Jaedong is at his peak, but after a year or so Flash will most likely dominate everyone.
how do you know bisu is past his peak? coz he's 20?
I'd say career age is more telling than chronological age. And judging from career age, bisu is past his peak. He's been a progamer for about 5 years now. Judging from past bonjwas and notable players, players start to peak at around years 3 or 4. Jaedong is at year 4 and flash at year 3. FYI, this is the start of baby's third year even though he's only 15. IIRC Oov started dominating everyone at 20/21 years old. He was relatively old, but that was in his 3rd or 4th year.
so this must hold true for bisu right?
can you point me towards the time traveling device you guys used to discover the future of bisu's career
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
The difference is Bisu is 20 and past his peak and Flash is 17 and still has possibilities to improve.
ATM Jaedong is at his peak, but after a year or so Flash will most likely dominate everyone.
how do you know bisu is past his peak? coz he's 20?
I'd say career age is more telling than chronological age. And judging from career age, bisu is past his peak. He's been a progamer for about 5 years now. Judging from past bonjwas and notable players, players start to peak at around years 3 or 4. Jaedong is at year 4 and flash at year 3. FYI, this is the start of baby's third year even though he's only 15. IIRC Oov started dominating everyone at 20/21 years old. He was relatively old, but that was in his 3rd or 4th year.
so this must hold true for bisu right?
can you point me towards the time traveling device you guys used to discover the future of bisu's career
Well um you can say that but... you can't prove that GoRush is past his peak, right?
LOL... Canata, Best and Hyuk out... poor SKT... And Hwaseung loses their only good players (besides Jaedong) in the qualifier but 3 scrubs qualify? wtf? ell, and let's better do not talk about Protoss ^.^Violet, JangBi, Flying all out ^.^
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
The difference is Bisu is 20 and past his peak and Flash is 17 and still has possibilities to improve.
ATM Jaedong is at his peak, but after a year or so Flash will most likely dominate everyone.
how do you know bisu is past his peak? coz he's 20?
I'd say career age is more telling than chronological age. And judging from career age, bisu is past his peak. He's been a progamer for about 5 years now. Judging from past bonjwas and notable players, players start to peak at around years 3 or 4. Jaedong is at year 4 and flash at year 3. FYI, this is the start of baby's third year even though he's only 15. IIRC Oov started dominating everyone at 20/21 years old. He was relatively old, but that was in his 3rd or 4th year.
so this must hold true for bisu right?
can you point me towards the time traveling device you guys used to discover the future of bisu's career
sure, watch his games. he fucking sucks against quality people in the starleagues but can still beat scrubs in proleague. he is turning into another sea lol.
On February 05 2010 21:13 Xiphos wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong for the OSL final!
poor Bisu
Well I think that Bisu might actually make a comeback this season. Remember how Flash was last season and how nobody was talking about him? Well Bisu is going to pull a flash here.
The difference is Bisu is 20 and past his peak and Flash is 17 and still has possibilities to improve.
ATM Jaedong is at his peak, but after a year or so Flash will most likely dominate everyone.
how do you know bisu is past his peak? coz he's 20?
I'd say career age is more telling than chronological age. And judging from career age, bisu is past his peak. He's been a progamer for about 5 years now. Judging from past bonjwas and notable players, players start to peak at around years 3 or 4. Jaedong is at year 4 and flash at year 3. FYI, this is the start of baby's third year even though he's only 15. IIRC Oov started dominating everyone at 20/21 years old. He was relatively old, but that was in his 3rd or 4th year.
so this must hold true for bisu right?
can you point me towards the time traveling device you guys used to discover the future of bisu's career
sure, watch his games. he fucking sucks against quality people in the starleagues but can still beat scrubs in proleague. he is turning into another sea lol.
Hmm... I watch Bisu games and I don't really see how he "fucking sucks against quality people in the starleagues". I thought his 1-2 losses in both starleagues in the last season were pretty close, involving a cheese and an unusual mistake and and decent opponents. After that he hasn't even had many opportunities to show anything.
Protoss race needs him a lot IMO, especially right now.
- Winners League monster firebathero is out of both leagues
Bonus: PerfectMan won all games in his group and now is in Ro36!
LOL!!!
Sea and Violet losing to scrubs is surprising and indicating slump. But Skyhigh losing to STX' strongest terran and practice beast frozen means he was a fluke?
Fuck..........Savior. It seems like he's done, but I'll keep believing. And the other CJ players..........T_T I've been saying fuck and using "....." a lot these past few days. Qualifiers really get at you =/
Before winners league, I definitely would've expected the Khan result, since Stork was basically the only one pulling his weight, but I thought for sure with fbh rippin' it up he's put on a good show in at least one of these prelims.
Sea and Violet losing to scrubs is surprising and indicating slump. But Skyhigh losing to STX' strongest terran and practice beast frozen means he was a fluke?
Troll.
Skyhigh lost so many desicive matches last year. And Frozen is not strongest terran of STX. Damn, Frozen never was good...
Dude good players lose in prelims all the time. They're not easy. Dropping out in them doesn't automatically mean a player is a fluke or is slumping. For example, sKyHigh's form has been much improved lately compare to just a few months ago - losing 1-2 in the finals of his group isn't bad at all.
On February 06 2010 02:27 Jenia6109 wrote: - GuemChi began his royal road walk!
Sea and Violet losing to scrubs is surprising and indicating slump. But sKyHigh losing to STX' strongest terran and practice beast FrOzen means he was a fluke?
Troll.
sKyHigh lost so many desicive matches Last year. And FrOzen is not strongest terran of STX. Damn, FrOzen never was good...
Sea and Violet losing to scrubs is surprising and indicating slump. But Skyhigh losing to STX' strongest terran and practice beast frozen means he was a fluke?
Troll.
Skyhigh lost so many desicive matches last year. And Frozen is not strongest terran of STX. Damn, Frozen never was good...
He is the strongest T on STX. Why do you think the coach keeps sending him, because he wants to lose?
- Winners League monster firebathero is out of both leagues
Bonus: PerfectMan won all games in his group and now is in Ro36!
LOL!!!
Sea and Violet losing to scrubs is surprising and indicating slump. But Skyhigh losing to STX' strongest terran and practice beast frozen means he was a fluke?
Troll.
You greatly overestimate the skills of the one they call CuteAngel.
On February 06 2010 04:23 D00dles wrote: Oh ffs FBH, you play well in WL and then do this in MSL and OSL.. The fuck man, THE FUCK.
I watched his games vs. protoss in WL. And his play relative to other tvps I watched was not pretty, NOT pretty. Only reason he won those games was with some really aggresive/risky attacks, BOs. So I was not surprised at all when he got 2-0ed by a toss in MSL. I was really surprised he got knocked out of the OSL. 2-0ing a toss but then getting 2-0ed by a zerg.
But then again, Hyun only had to play 1 matchup while FBH had to play 3 matchups during the qualifiers. So it wasn't really a fail for FBH, but a lucky draw for Hyun and an unlucky one for FBH.
I just calculated the winning percentage in ZvP for the qualifiers. I might have missed one game tops
Anyways, the winning percentage in ZvP in these qualifiers was 78% (!) The reason there's not that many protoss players is many times because zergs knock them out
On February 06 2010 04:37 DreaM)XeRO wrote: why BeST why
Well Iron beat Violet in MSL and Violet beat BeSt in PL... so IrOn>Violet>BeSt T^T.... Sadly BeSt is my favourite player... sucks for T1 fans today I guess =/...
On February 06 2010 07:05 Foucault wrote: I just calculated the winning percentage in ZvP for the qualifiers. I might have missed one game tops
Anyways, the winning percentage in ZvP in these qualifiers was 78% (!) The reason there's not that many protoss players is many times because zergs knock them out
Rofl and all the knocked out dragons were from protoss and terran.
On February 06 2010 07:05 Foucault wrote: I just calculated the winning percentage in ZvP for the qualifiers. I might have missed one game tops
Anyways, the winning percentage in ZvP in these qualifiers was 78% (!) The reason there's not that many protoss players is many times because zergs knock them out
Rofl and all the knocked out dragons were from protoss and terran.
Thats cause all the dragons were like shit shit shit zergs shit shit practice pvZ!!!!
They go to offline feeling good and kill some zergs only to realize they forgot about other 2 matchups.
On February 06 2010 07:05 Foucault wrote: I just calculated the winning percentage in ZvP for the qualifiers. I might have missed one game tops
Anyways, the winning percentage in ZvP in these qualifiers was 78% (!) The reason there's not that many protoss players is many times because zergs knock them out
To be fair, there were a lot of pretty ordinary protoss players in this round. Only really Jangbi, Free and Best were guys who would've been favourites to move though and didn't (and they didn't even lose to zergs).
Things looking good for Bisu. He's now in a situation where he has to work his way up to the MSL and OSL, and that's when he performs best. I'm really glad he won't get the chance to fuck up his groups with cocky choices during the selection process...
no MJY,Skyhigh,Mind,Roro,upmagic,Best,Jangbi,Free,Hoejja,Sea,Hiya plus no representitives from ACE and four Woongjin Terrans in the OSL. HOW THE HELL DID THIS HAPPEN??????
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