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Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
January 05 2010 17:34 GMT
#821
Wow from reading comments, it seems like I really need to watch game 2. Movie or Skyhigh need to start winning again because if just one wins, normally Effort can pull off the ace match.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 05 2010 17:59 GMT
#822
It's good to see baller terran stomp CJ.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 05 2010 19:24 GMT
#823
Disappointed.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 05 2010 19:28 GMT
#824
I just watched game 2. Too bad Flying forgot to macro.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 05 2010 20:08 GMT
#825
I just can't figure out (T)sKyHigh. (P)Movie is still inconsistent, he's reminding me a little of Calm- doing great in individual leagues but less than a sure thing in proleague.

(Z)EffOrt is a baller, of course.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 05 2010 20:32 GMT
#826
Hoooly fuck, I'm watching effort vs Flying right now, and effort's mutalisk splits against the corsairs in Flying's base around the 10-11 minute mark are fucking INSANE.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
January 05 2010 20:58 GMT
#827
that first recall should have had a reaver and a probe to build a pylon in the choke. would've been insanely effective
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Prototype
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden56 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 21:05:32
January 05 2010 21:04 GMT
#828
Wow, the second game was simply astounding. Put simply, if Effort keeps playing like he did during the first half of the game... there can be no doubt he is the best ZvPer the world has ever seen. On the other hand, if Flying keeps playing the way he did during this game... we might well have another Protoss Revolutionist on our hands.

Either way - between this and the other recent changes to the ZvP metagame - these are exiting times. Exiting times, indeed!
"Do we live to play, or do we play to live?"
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 05 2010 21:35 GMT
#829
On January 06 2010 05:08 tree.hugger wrote:
I just can't figure out (T)sKyHigh. (P)Movie is still inconsistent, he's reminding me a little of Calm- doing great in individual leagues but less than a sure thing in proleague.

(Z)EffOrt is a baller, of course.

Skyhigh is just sucking right now and movie just can't pvt unless he dt rushes or cannon rushes or does something of the sort. And effort is also losing his invincibility losing to jangbi and free in his best match up.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 05 2010 23:18 GMT
#830
On January 06 2010 06:35 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 05:08 tree.hugger wrote:
I just can't figure out (T)sKyHigh. (P)Movie is still inconsistent, he's reminding me a little of Calm- doing great in individual leagues but less than a sure thing in proleague.

(Z)EffOrt is a baller, of course.

Skyhigh is just sucking right now and movie just can't pvt unless he dt rushes or cannon rushes or does something of the sort. And effort is also losing his invincibility losing to jangbi and free in his best match up.


I think it's more that people are realizing that playing PvZ straight up against EffOrt is near impossible, and so strong protoss like JangBi and (to a lesser extent) free are preparing very very carefully for him.

And Flying is just going all out to confuse him.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 23:51:46
January 05 2010 23:51 GMT
#831
On January 06 2010 08:18 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 06:35 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 06 2010 05:08 tree.hugger wrote:
I just can't figure out (T)sKyHigh. (P)Movie is still inconsistent, he's reminding me a little of Calm- doing great in individual leagues but less than a sure thing in proleague.

(Z)EffOrt is a baller, of course.

Skyhigh is just sucking right now and movie just can't pvt unless he dt rushes or cannon rushes or does something of the sort. And effort is also losing his invincibility losing to jangbi and free in his best match up.


I think it's more that people are realizing that playing PvZ straight up against EffOrt is near impossible, and so strong protoss like JangBi and (to a lesser extent) free are preparing very very carefully for him.

And Flying is just going all out to confuse him.
both jangbi and free played standardly. Their excellent preperation is simply because effort is good [and in jangbis case, it was an ace match]. Thats standard preperation for any good zerg, its not exceptional based off a fear that effort is unbeatable or something. Don't inflate effort with this crap, plz.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
January 06 2010 00:20 GMT
#832
On January 06 2010 08:51 yhnmk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 08:18 tree.hugger wrote:
On January 06 2010 06:35 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 06 2010 05:08 tree.hugger wrote:
I just can't figure out (T)sKyHigh. (P)Movie is still inconsistent, he's reminding me a little of Calm- doing great in individual leagues but less than a sure thing in proleague.

(Z)EffOrt is a baller, of course.

Skyhigh is just sucking right now and movie just can't pvt unless he dt rushes or cannon rushes or does something of the sort. And effort is also losing his invincibility losing to jangbi and free in his best match up.


I think it's more that people are realizing that playing PvZ straight up against EffOrt is near impossible, and so strong protoss like JangBi and (to a lesser extent) free are preparing very very carefully for him.

And Flying is just going all out to confuse him.
both jangbi and free played standardly. Their excellent preperation is simply because effort is good [and in jangbis case, it was an ace match]. Thats standard preperation for any good zerg, its not exceptional based off a fear that effort is unbeatable or something. Don't inflate effort with this crap, plz.


This. Effort was showing great promise a few months ago, but it's shown that he's definitely mortal. He's not anywhere near invincible, on any matchup.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 06 2010 00:24 GMT
#833
This is disappointing. CJ is so much better than this...
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
amoeba
Profile Joined October 2004
United States283 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 02:38:01
January 06 2010 02:37 GMT
#834
I wouldn't short change Estro. People should realize that with the exception of Airforce ACE, any team can beat any other team. and quite honestly, Estro is a pretty solid team.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 06 2010 02:50 GMT
#835
On January 06 2010 09:20 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 08:51 yhnmk wrote:
On January 06 2010 08:18 tree.hugger wrote:
On January 06 2010 06:35 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 06 2010 05:08 tree.hugger wrote:
I just can't figure out (T)sKyHigh. (P)Movie is still inconsistent, he's reminding me a little of Calm- doing great in individual leagues but less than a sure thing in proleague.

(Z)EffOrt is a baller, of course.

Skyhigh is just sucking right now and movie just can't pvt unless he dt rushes or cannon rushes or does something of the sort. And effort is also losing his invincibility losing to jangbi and free in his best match up.


I think it's more that people are realizing that playing PvZ straight up against EffOrt is near impossible, and so strong protoss like JangBi and (to a lesser extent) free are preparing very very carefully for him.

And Flying is just going all out to confuse him.
both jangbi and free played standardly. Their excellent preperation is simply because effort is good [and in jangbis case, it was an ace match]. Thats standard preperation for any good zerg, its not exceptional based off a fear that effort is unbeatable or something. Don't inflate effort with this crap, plz.


This. Effort was showing great promise a few months ago, but it's shown that he's definitely mortal. He's not anywhere near invincible, on any matchup.

True. Effort's shown some flashes of greatness along with some horrible play. One day he can play near perfect, while the next day, he can lose badly and let Free get a 59 kill archon. If he ever develops some sort of consistency, I can see him going far.
God Bless
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 06 2010 03:47 GMT
#836
On January 06 2010 11:37 amoeba wrote:
I wouldn't short change Estro. People should realize that with the exception of Airforce ACE, any team can beat any other team. and quite honestly, Estro is a pretty solid team.

Exactly! Every team except Ace is competetive as hell atm.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
January 06 2010 07:30 GMT
#837
I couldnt help myself, I just got back into town from long christmas holidays and had to peek at the results watching vods nowwwww
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