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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
December 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#661
HELL YES BEST VS FLASHH

lee young ho!!!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
December 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#662
On December 31 2009 19:58 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 19:55 Jyvblamo wrote:
BTW, this Kwanrolling business raises an interesting point.

Can Pikachu learn rollout?

Yes!

wtf in Emerald you can?

IMBA
POGGERS
BlackMesa
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Kenya338 Posts
December 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#663
Is stream really laggy for anyone else?
Need a Light
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#664
On December 31 2009 19:58 iPF[Div] wrote:
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On December 31 2009 19:54 unSpeake wrote:
Kwanro is like a less skilled luxury.... why do i love him so much

Luxury is like a less skilled Luxury.

Haha, this made me laugh.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
December 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#665
now if best would just x2 nexus and flash bunker rush
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
December 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#666
Dude why are people hating on Kwanro? Light played like GARBAGE that game. You could see a mile away that Kwanro got gas before pool. That means speedlings and fastest possible Lair at the SAME TIME. Light didn't even get his Bunker up in spite of scouting and failed to block his entrance even though he had every opportunity to do so.

We've seen Zero and Hyun beat Flash on this map with Mutas - that's because it's really easy to harass both bases with fast Mutas and Kwanro's build is basically getting fast Mutas and fast Lings and putting the pressure on Terran to adjust their build. Why? Because you HAVE TO get Turrets up in time to defend Mutas on this map. Flash misclicked his natural mineral line Turret and that mistake alone cost him any chance of competing (you can't miss that Turret because you'll never get it up once Mutas come ... but if you get up it's not really killable because it's so easy to mass repair) - that means Terran can't miss their timings AT ALL and adding super fast speedling pressure is a great way to try to cause Terran to miss.

Kwanro only massed Lings after he got into Light's base. I mean at that point you're in his base of course you're going to just make 12 lings at a time and run in - it's not like Kwanro couldn't have just pulled back and gotten Mutas before Light had any chance in hell of getting Stim and Turrets up.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
December 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#667
And now, for our feature presentation,
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
December 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#668
BEEEEESTTTTT!!!!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 31 2009 11:00 GMT
#669
On December 31 2009 19:57 538 wrote:
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On December 31 2009 19:53 Mortician wrote:
On December 31 2009 19:52 538 wrote:
How can someone get so far in SLs with such an all-in gamestyle as Kwanro. It blows my mind.
Idra give us your imput pls.


The same way as OctoberZerg

No, there has to be more sophisticated reason behind it. Maybe he has decent enough a normal game to gain him an edge when people take extra measures against his cheese blindfolded, and he just cheeses when they dont. But how does he know? Can it be luck after all this? Is the current macro-oriented metagames fail to cheese so much? Or is zerg is just THAT imba with its cheesy allins?


Zerg is pretty bullshit with their all-ins. There are just so many flavours, and if you take precautions against all of them, and Zerg plays standard, you are bound to be behind.

There's:

4-pool
5-pool
6-pool
speedling run-by
mass speedling
hydra all-in
(2-hatch muta) <-- not really "all-in", but still pretty gay
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
December 31 2009 11:00 GMT
#670
On December 31 2009 19:55 Cambium wrote:
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On December 31 2009 19:54 writer22816 wrote:
Can anyone explain the Octzerg jokes to me



OctZerg is someone who did well in the TSL-iccup prelim round. Supposedly, he all-ins a lot, just like kwanro


He is the Archrival of Idra, he is YellOw to Idra, always getting second place, their rivalry has been known since the begining of StarCraft progaming. Creativeness vs Solid play. Many people love him, many people will root for him, but everybody will bet his money on Idra. It's the foreigner LimJinRok - GregBojanRok
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
demonic_phate
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States442 Posts
December 31 2009 11:00 GMT
#671
BusyP
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8070 Posts
December 31 2009 11:00 GMT
#672
Flash win please :X
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 31 2009 11:01 GMT
#673
owhawooawh best 100% vT lol
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
December 31 2009 11:01 GMT
#674
we don't like kwanro because he does this shit every time

hes bad and only wins with lame shit like this. its not strategic, its all he can win with
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 31 2009 11:01 GMT
#675
wow 100% winrate in PvT
dats racist
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 31 2009 11:01 GMT
#676
On December 31 2009 20:00 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 19:55 Cambium wrote:
On December 31 2009 19:54 writer22816 wrote:
Can anyone explain the Octzerg jokes to me



OctZerg is someone who did well in the TSL-iccup prelim round. Supposedly, he all-ins a lot, just like kwanro


He is the Archrival of Idra, he is YellOw to Idra, always getting second place, their rivalry has been known since the begining of StarCraft progaming. Creativeness vs Solid play. Many people love him, many people will root for him, but everybody will bet his money on Idra. It's the foreigner LimJinRok - GregBojanRok


lol
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
December 31 2009 11:01 GMT
#677
On December 31 2009 19:54 writer22816 wrote:
Can anyone explain the Octzerg jokes to me

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108011&currentpage=3

Scroll down to the JWD post/pic. Explains everything.
esq>n
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
December 31 2009 11:01 GMT
#678
Oh, man. Flash and Kwanro need to win their series. We need Flash vs Kwanro (finals or semis, I don't know). The bitter Kwanro haters will shit their pants.

"What? Ling runby? NOOB!"
"What? Two hatch muta? IS THAT ALL YOU CAN DO?"
"What? Turtle zerg into ultra-ling-defiler? LAME!"
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
December 31 2009 11:01 GMT
#679
Best's everything is 100%
POGGERS
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 31 2009 11:01 GMT
#680
On December 31 2009 20:01 MrHoon wrote:
wow 100% winrate in PvT


It's Best's first MSL, not surprising.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
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