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thanks for the up, even if its kinda work in progress : )
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Enjoy your polls!
Poll: Who are you rooting for? (Vote): hite SPARKYZ (Vote): KT Rolster
Poll: Who do you think will win? (Vote): hite SPARKYZ (Vote): KT Rolster
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I can totally see KT lose yet another match 1-3 unless Violet beats SeCret. Then 3-2 to KT looks likely.
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On December 27 2009 12:45 Infenwe wrote:I can totally see KT lose yet another match 1-3 unless Violet beats SeCret. Then 3-2 to KT looks likely. you have go.go as a favorite?.... srsly his TvP is such a joke if he doesnt do some sort of cheese. im afraid of 3-0 and Leta not being able to play
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Chen: Well... I just plain don't like Tempest. He did that mangoon thing vs. Light and ever since he hasn't been able to do anything even remotely close to something that cool.
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Tempest is a funny player. He can play amazingly good but when he plays bad, he plays beyond awful.
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AH, I was going to post these EXACT predictions. Weird. Anyways, GOGO HITE SPARKYZ!
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I want to watch Calm vs. Fantasy, but that won't be a problem till later. For now- sparkyz fighting!
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Live reports pls :O!!! I'm at work..
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Come on Hogil, time to show us what you are made off, I know you got it in you!
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On December 27 2009 13:07 Oystein wrote: Come on Hogil, time to show us what you are made off, I know you got it in you! Judging by the stream situation, we won't know if he's got it in him until tomorrow morning. -_-
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Is anyone else having trouble with the MBC Livestream?
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1 rax FE from gogo, builds a bunker at nat
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http://3.plu.cn
requires UUsee and is a bit behind, but you get kickass Chinese commentary
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Tempest almost snipes the first tank
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Tempest WAS GOING TO!
Ahh close to sniping the tank.
Now hes sniping the bunker with 3 goons.
Sieged tank forces the goons away.
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Mystlord
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3rd base coming up for Tempest, 4 gates up for him as well.
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go.go going for deep six I think
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Gogo scouted Tempest's third
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Go.go planning for a timing push with bio units. He's researching something at the academy.
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we need more holiday streamers
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lots of tanks + a small mnm force for go.go, moving out!
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that is a LOT of tanks, tempest losing his third
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lol go.go gets pincered and demolished.
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Mystlord
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TEMPEST TAKING BACK HIS NATURAL WITH A HUGE ATTACK!
GO.GO'S FORCES DIE SPECTACULARLY!
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OMG TEMPEST SETS UP A PINCER MOVE
GO.GO'S FORCE GETS ANNIHLATED
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lol gogo just got rolled, tempest has this game easily
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That was such a late push [from go.go]. Then again, tempest was never as bad as people said.
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Mystlord
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Tempest outside of go.go's natural..
HE'S PUSHING IN WITH HIS FORCES!!
GO.GO HAS NOTHING AT HOME TO DEFEND!
TEMPEST IS PROBABLY JUST GOING TO RUN GO.GO OVER!
Ahh Tempest not pushing in any further.
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tempest 1a2a3a's into go.go's nat and snipes the barracks
siege tanks on the cliff drive him off for now
Tempest expanding again to his fourth base
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On December 27 2009 13:16 MountainDewJunkie wrote: That was such a late push [from go.go]. Then again, tempest was never as bad as people said.
As I said earlier, he either plays amazingly or extremely poorly. He's just not consistent.
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go.go again moves out and gets his forces eaten by Tempest
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kk no way back for gogo now
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:D gogo's second push gets crushed again, tempest is playing pretty well
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Heh, if he done a real deep six, it might have actually worked.
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Tempest warping in a stargate, going to get arbiters soon.
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Tempest adds stargate and a ton of gates, go.go tries to expand to a third base
Tempest looks about to run him over!
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Why push with no templar or reaver support?
NVM still owned
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Such a terrible flank by tempest but still somehow wins
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Mystlord
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TEMPEST ATTACKING GOGO'S FORCES, BUT LOSES ALL OF HIS TROOPS!
MORE REINFORCEMENTS COMING FOR TEMPEST!
GO.GO LOSES HIS ENTIRE FORCE!
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Wow Tempest attacks with poor positioning but go.go still loses his whole army again
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Crowd is laughing
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Go.Go gets rolled, what do you know
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tempest builds 2 stargates but doesnt have tribunal
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go.go's 3rd base is up and running, I don't think he can come back..
EPIC CAMERA DODGE LADY
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Mystlord
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Go.go taking his third that Tempest spots and is now stopping from going up.
go.go has vultures roaming around the map...
LOL TEMPEST'S FORCES GO AROUND THE MINES!
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tempest has forgotten about arbiters
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Go.go could win... he just to go from 0-0 to 3-3 in the next 3 minutes -_-
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That was a much nicer attack angle this time.
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Mystlord
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go.go finally able to secure his third, Tempest taking a fifth, but it gets stopped by Vultures..
TEMPEST LOOKING TO PUSH IN AGAIN!
TEMPEST CLEARLY RUNS OVER GO.GO'S ARMY AGAIN!
GO.GO HAS NOTHING LEFT AND GGS!
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I was amused by that pair of girls in the audience. One does the standard korean girl cover-your-face thing, the other one looks at her friend with a "dude is that really necessary?" look on her face -_-
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tempest gets tired of waiting for arb and just attacks. he wins. go.go ggs.
GGGGG
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Seems like Tempest doesn't even need arbiters.
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GG as gogos like 5th push gets raped GOGO KT
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Tempest has a lot of lady fans o.O
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On December 27 2009 13:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Tempest has a lot of lady fans o.O KT fangirls are trying to lighten up the mood ever since the whole anti fan bullshit
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anti-fan bullshit? what and when was that?
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On December 27 2009 13:27 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 13:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Tempest has a lot of lady fans o.O KT fangirls are trying to lighten up the mood ever since the whole anti fan bullshit
as in with flash??? if not, care to enlighten/explain??
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2 days ago because of Flash's bunker rush I guess.
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Go look at the msl interviews thread for ro16 day 4
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Wow that jacket makes Hogil look like a hambeast.
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Hogil's ID: "zerg" -____-
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Damn Flash has played nothing but zergs and terrans, when will he play another protoss in the pro-league?
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hogil looking menacing and constipated at the same time
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Hogil's new handle is 'Zerg'? Really? 'Zerg'?
Yeah, uhm...
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hogils SUCH a fun and good zerg, too bad his zvz is terrible and he always runs into great players. His win percentage should be much higher in zvt especially.
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On December 27 2009 13:37 FireGuyX wrote: Damn Flash has played nothing but zergs and terrans, when will he play another protoss in the pro-league?
Round 3. Winners League.
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On December 27 2009 13:39 yhnmk wrote: hogils SUCH a fun and good zerg, too bad his zvz is terrible and he always runs into great players. His win percentage should be much higher in zvt especially. Yeah there's a few games (vs fantasy, vs mind) that are actually impressive.
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lol at hogil's record only practicing against protoss
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Hogil's new handle is 'Zerg'? Really? 'Zerg'?
Just for that he deserves a humiliating beatdown.
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12 hatch 12 cc! this will be a good game
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On December 27 2009 13:41 SilverskY wrote: Flash just 14CC'd.
SHIT JUST GOT REAL
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Hogil going 3 hatch. Flash puts up 2 rax immediately after the 14cc.
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Haha Flash is like "lemme do a build that I would NEVER do in a Starleague now"
at least I hope....
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lol flash's responce to early mutas, 14cc
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Flash looks like he's prepping some sunken bust or something.
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Wow Flash... what was that?
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ooh... a failed sunken bust attempt
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flash looks kind of frazzled. Must be tired after this hellish schedule.
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Wow... no idea what he was thinking there.
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MrHoon
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wow nice marine split to kill liurkers
jeezes
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Flash snipes both lurkers and loses 1 rine while doing it. God, what impeccable micro...
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Wow flash is just on fire, hes gonna move out reguardless of lurkers and mutas and deny the third
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Sunken bust part 2 incoming.
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Or hes just gonna break, gg inc :D
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second attempt is more successful
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MrHoon
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wow
I swear to god
Flash has the best TvZ Lurker Rape Micro
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OMFg. Sexy sunken bust. Konga line of rines marching.
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How the fuck did he do that?
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That was some amazing rape o_o
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MrHoon
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HAHAHAHBA WOW LURKER RAPE LOLLLLLLLLLLL
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wow, how did flash do that
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omg hogil so sorry for you
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That was sublime.
+ Show Spoiler + We saw EffOrt abuse HiYa last night, and then we see Flash abuse Hite_Zerg tonight, and I just can't reconcile the two images. How did both players make winning look so damn simple?
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Hogil doesn't even have a chance to do anything... Flash rapes 3rd and natural at the same time. Morphing lurkers don't even get the chance to burrow. And Hogil GG's
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flash is just like how nada was back in 2002-2003. top players would give him some trouble, but anyone else and it was a literal rape.
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The difference in skill level between Hogil and Zero.
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I love watching lurkers die like that. Makes my terran heart happy.
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Wow, Flash won? I sure didn't see that coming.
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wow flash is really playing on a different level.....
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On December 27 2009 13:49 GTR wrote: flash is just like how nada was back in 2002-2003. top players would give him some trouble, but anyone else and it was a literal rape. Even the top players, unless they're a protoss, don't seem to phase Flash.
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well violet should make this 3:0, I'm go watch stx vs skt ;]
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Thats just rediculous. Its so good, its almost depressing to watch. This must be why people get to dislike players who get REALLY good and just wait for people to take them down.
Fools like that make the game look broken :O
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Flash was right to fear the beast that is Hogil.
His 14cc will save him for now.
FOR NOW.
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doping rines are so imba
edit: ...at the hands of flash`
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Haha the power of 14CC. You can fail a Sunken bust and still come right back and do another.
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Wow...That was kind of arrogant by Flash....yet it was all completely justified. Kind of unfortuante that Flash caught Hogil's mutas out in the open like that, they definately could have given Hogil a better game than that :/.
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On December 27 2009 13:50 Vivi57 wrote: wtf just happened 14cc -> rape, its flash's favorite build
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MrHoon
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that fucking lurker micro
goddamn
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i think hogil tried to go both lurker and muta, but couldnt commit enough resources to either, so both techs were half-assed
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On December 27 2009 13:51 Athos wrote: Wow...That was kind of arrogant by Flash....yet it was all completely justified. Kind of unfortuante that Flash caught Hogil's mutas out in the open like that, they definately could have given Hogil a better game than that :/. Seriously. Imagine all the TvZ imba threads that will crop up now.
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On December 27 2009 13:51 Scaramanga wrote:14cc -> rape, its flash's favorite build oh i missed the 14cc, that explains alot
such sick mind games though, 14cc right after he 8raxes
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On December 27 2009 13:51 Scaramanga wrote:14cc -> rape, its flash's favorite build His second-favorite build? 14cc -> get raped.
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On December 27 2009 13:52 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 13:51 Scaramanga wrote:On December 27 2009 13:50 Vivi57 wrote: wtf just happened 14cc -> rape, its flash's favorite build oh i missed the 14cc, that explains alot such sick mind games though, 14cc right after he 8raxes They're both countered by 9 pool.
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On December 27 2009 13:52 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 13:51 Scaramanga wrote:On December 27 2009 13:50 Vivi57 wrote: wtf just happened 14cc -> rape, its flash's favorite build His second-favorite build? 14cc -> get raped.
Haha it's true
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Ya the old theory was "terran can't move out" untill he gets more support for the marines. Flash shows us that just isn't true if you do it right. He moves out RIGHT in that window where terran is supposed to be trapped by the muta clump and micro.
Oh and he has 50 MT in his base and about 10 rines on his ramp at all times. >.<
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On December 27 2009 13:52 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 13:51 Scaramanga wrote:On December 27 2009 13:50 Vivi57 wrote: wtf just happened 14cc -> rape, its flash's favorite build His second-favorite build? 14cc -> get raped. lol yeah unfortunatly, anyway violet should be able to beat haksoo easily and take it 3-0 for kt
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On December 27 2009 13:52 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 13:51 Scaramanga wrote:On December 27 2009 13:50 Vivi57 wrote: wtf just happened 14cc -> rape, its flash's favorite build His second-favorite build? 14cc -> get raped. Hahahah that made me laugh out loud xD
Never change, Flash.
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Seriously why do pro Zergs do the "move out burrow 2-4 lurkers just to have them raped by mnm micro" still. It happens in so many games its disgusting, throwing away lurkers like that will help sooo much more if you just wait until you have 6+ and mnm really can`t break them anymore.
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On December 27 2009 13:52 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 13:51 Scaramanga wrote:On December 27 2009 13:50 Vivi57 wrote: wtf just happened 14cc -> rape, its flash's favorite build His second-favorite build? 14cc -> get raped. I bet Flash wanted to play a toss-up though. Preparing the econ cheese can't take that much practices, leaving more time to prepare against his series vs Best (first toss opponent in AGES).
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On December 27 2009 13:55 Oystein wrote: Seriously why do pro Zergs do the "move out burrow 2-4 lurkers just to have them raped by mnm micro" still. It happens in so many games its disgusting, throwing away lurkers like that will help sooo much more if you just wait until you have 6+ and mnm really can`t break them anymore. I'm guessing Hogil didn't expect Flash to keep his mnm group so far away from his base and see the lurks. Probably hoping for some stop-lurker action.
edit: Should've edited previous post. Sorry!
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Btw op its on mbc not ogn
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im so amazed to see how easy flash can beat zergs...
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On December 27 2009 13:59 torm3ntin wrote: im so amazed to see how easy flash can beat zergs...
flash had build order advantage.
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I have MBC on my original link, btw sorry I've been busy. Did Flash win? Rather did Hogil gg?
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KT hasn't played Luxury in a long time...
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Mystlord
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A 2 gate from Secret vs. a 1 gate core from Violet.
Secret not choosing to pressure any further and now gets gas.
He expands to the back side.
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Violet's probe will apparently never die.
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Secret went 2 gate but only built a single zealot and expanded before he built his core. Violet has a much larger force which is sad.
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On December 27 2009 13:55 Oystein wrote: Seriously why do pro Zergs do the "move out burrow 2-4 lurkers just to have them raped by mnm micro" still. It happens in so many games its disgusting, throwing away lurkers like that will help sooo much more if you just wait until you have 6+ and mnm really can`t break them anymore. Boneheaded zergs refuse to believe that Flash's has god-like MnM micro.
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Mystlord
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Violet trying to hop a probe over the mineral line to Secret's back side. Secret has a zealot there though. Seems like Violet will micro to kill that Zealot.
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Mystlord
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Violet trying to push up that ramp, but Secret has too many units there.
Violet still running off of 1 base. WTF is that kid thinking?
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violet's scouting probe has the longest life span of any probe lmfao.
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On December 27 2009 14:07 SilverskY wrote: violet's scouting probe has the longest life span of any probe lmfao.
i think it's second to bisu
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Mystlord
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A shuttle out for Violet, with probably a reaver inside.
Secret's thinking the same thing..
NVM Violet is shuttling 2 goons to the mineral area behind secret's 2nd.
Secret retreats his probes, but the NExus is going to get sniped.
Secret isn't going to defend the Nexus for whatever reason.
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Mystlord
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Oh wait, now Secret is choosing to defend the natural.
Secret going to ferry goons over, but Violet is microing to kill those goons.
SHUTTLE GOES DOWN FOR SECRET!
Violet's goons get killed though.
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MrHoon
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./.. what the fuck is violet doing
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Lost the shuttle to defend that... might not be a good trade since his Reaver is now exposed
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violets playing like complete ass.
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Violet always plays horrible on outsider. No idea why.
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MrHoon
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3 base vs 1... ?????????????????
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MrHoon
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LOL VIOLET LOSES THE SHUTTLE
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goddamnit violet wat was that
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Violet loses Reavers for nothing, Secret killing Violets expos with mineral line glitch
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playing like complete noobies here
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MrHoon
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why is violet so bad in outsider
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Pro tosses fail to understand that Reavers do the most if you effing drop that shit in the mining line of the probes. They drop that shit so far away.
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nothing going Violet's way now. behind in bases and reavers, needs an epic harass. gets 3 probes before having to retreat to defend
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secret is playing quite well, hes had a great reaction time all game
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:\ he had the army advantage and decided to back off
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3base vs 2base, violet has almost no chance now after that battle
edit: nm secret hasnt got the 4th yet
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Violet's macro and micro are still on point, evidenced by that battle. Still, his expansion timing and harassment have been totally bizarre this game.
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4 bases vs 2, oh well storms end Violet easy.
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GG well done secret wow !!!
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violet just raped my fpl team
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GO SECRET YES!! GO LETA!!
Edit: Sorry for the caps lol.
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Guess we might see an ace match after all.
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Violet should come out in Ace, match point does the same thing to Flash that Outsider does to Violet.
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Please, Hoejja, win once.
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On December 27 2009 14:18 On_Slaught wrote: Now THAT is embaressing. Bisu also lost to Secret. He played well that game, about the level of a decent toss on a normal map. (Which is extremely good on outsider, where everyone plays far worse).
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Hey question for you folks, any of these games you think recommendable so far? And why?
I didn't get a chance to fully watch 1 or 2, thus I don't have a solid opinion.
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On December 27 2009 14:20 ghosthunter wrote: Hey question for you folks, any of these games you think recommendable so far? And why?
I didn't get a chance to fully watch 1 or 2, thus I don't have a solid opinion. Game 2 is cool because Flash does his infamous 14cc+rape
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On December 27 2009 14:20 ghosthunter wrote: Hey question for you folks, any of these games you think recommendable so far? And why?
I didn't get a chance to fully watch 1 or 2, thus I don't have a solid opinion.
like squishing bugs? fvz was nice.
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On December 27 2009 14:20 ghosthunter wrote: Hey question for you folks, any of these games you think recommendable so far? And why?
I didn't get a chance to fully watch 1 or 2, thus I don't have a solid opinion.
ehhhhh game 1 for go.go getting manhandled, then tempest forgetting tribunal, then just not even needing it. gonna say not really worth a recommend. game 2 for flash 14 ccing, looking like he was going to lose, moving out at a bad timing window, and managing to win. also gonna say not really worth a recommend. both solid, but not particularly recommendable games imo.
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Flash's timing window was fine? Hogil just put up enough sunks.
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Ah, I see where I had MBC (In the opening statement as to what it was) and fixed it, thanks for the heads up!
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Leta doign a 2rax pressure build!
edit: ok... they were defensive 2raxes in case hoejja tried an allin or something
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On December 27 2009 14:33 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: Leta doign a 2rax pressure build!
edit: ok... they were defensive 2raxes in case hoejja tried an allin or something
2 rax expo
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Looks like Hoejja is going to die to a sunken bust.
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Mutas coming out for hoejja..this is looking alot like calm vs fantasy .
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Hoejja's decision making is that of a 5 year old. Just suicided all his lings.
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Hoejja went for a mutaling attack..all of the lings die..mutas flying around leta's main attacking barracks.
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On December 27 2009 14:38 SilverskY wrote: Hoejja's decision making is that of a 5 year old. Just suicided all his lings. You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Leta decides he is not a dumbass like some other terrans (Light, turn) and actually brings his MnM back home.
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2 FIREBATS GOING TO HOEJJAS 3RD!
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Hoejja taking a third base.
Mutas kill the 2 turrets guarding the Raxs and force Leta's force back. This should give him enough time to get lurkers out and hold his third.
2 Fire bats intercept transfering drones and spot 3rd. Hoejja sends Hydras to clean it up.
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Hoejja just spent about 15 seconds just sitting there hitting non-producing barracks instead of the open workers at the main. *sigh*
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Letas muta defense leaves much to be desired.
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HOEJJA sends his mutas all the way to the other side of the map to kill 2 bats..
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wtf..hoejja shoulve just used the hydras to clean up those firebats...instead off bringing back all his mutas -.-
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I wish KT would stop sending out HoeJJa. Luxury, 815, Firefist, and Stats are all much better choices.
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On December 27 2009 14:39 SilverskY wrote: Hoejja just spent about 15 seconds just sitting there hitting non-producing barracks instead of the open workers at the main. *sigh*
Rax produce marines slower the lower their hit points are. + Show Spoiler +Not really, but ForGG told Hoejja this as a joke.
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See, Leta? You don't need that horrible 2-port wraith build to win
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4 TANK ONE VESSEL PUSH GOING
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That is one huge ass Terran push. Hoejja is about to get rolled... But I do like the aesthetics and layout of Leta's base. *drool*
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Hoejja playing very poorly.
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BIG COUNTERATTACK AT LETAS NAT!!!!!
BIG ATTACK AT HOEJJAS NAT
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There goes the game. You're no Luxury, Hoejja.
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This is so over
SWARM OUT>>LETA LOSES A VESSEL!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL HERO BUNKER THIS WAS INCREDIBLY AWESOME
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Hero bunker saves leta from like 10 lurkers + lings pushing his nat.
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way to hold!!!!! yea leta!!!!
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Wow... Hoejja just barely fails to break Leta's nat. He fails though so that'll be game in a minute or two.
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fucking fail hoejja
just flank properly damnit
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epic repair...hero bunker
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Leta is carelessly losing his vessels...
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leta should start getting dropships.
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Hoejja barely holding on in this key stone cops travesty of a game.
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why hasnt leta won yet.........
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On December 27 2009 14:47 bluemanrocks wrote: why hasnt leta won yet.........
cause he is playing bad
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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why does hoejja look like he still has a chance despite what is essentially been a-move + burrow up to now...
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On December 27 2009 14:47 bluemanrocks wrote: why hasnt leta won yet......... because of dark swarm
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On December 27 2009 14:47 bluemanrocks wrote: why hasnt leta won yet.........
Apparently everyone's Bio TvZ is pretty rusty.
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Leta doesn't seem like he knows what to do with controlling the middle of the map.
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Fantasy-Calm spoiler + Show Spoiler +This looks like the Fantasy Calm game, but Leta isn't using dropships like he needs to.
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Oh man... What is Leta doing? If Hoejja can get some cows out...
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On December 27 2009 14:49 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Oh man... What is Leta doing? If Hoejja can get some cows out...
They're even in bases though, and i don't think ultras will change the balance much
edit: Jeezus thats a shiton of tanks
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Hoejja not doing too bad of a job against Leta.. Aside from the fact that Leta's on 4 gas...
Hoejja is just getting his fifth right now.
Leta's soon going to do a 2 fac tank roll over.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
on the bright side, it looks like that leta is going to have enough tanks to not even worry about cows.
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On December 27 2009 14:49 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Oh man... What is Leta doing? If Hoejja can get some cows out...
it's ok leta has lots of tanks
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Thats about 9 tanks or so? Eeeeeeeee....
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Leta is going for heavy tanks with +1 attacks to counter dark swarm. It makes sense because he's even on bases and knows that hoejja with have ultras soon.
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On December 27 2009 14:48 ShadowDrgn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This looks like the Fantasy Calm game, but Leta isn't using dropships like he needs to.
please spoiler this kind of stuff.
looks like leta is just going to push with lots of tanks. if he loses......
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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lol hoejja: 3 bunkers on a ramp, clearly a defenseless expo ripe for the pillaging...
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Building tanks is a good talent toi have.
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15 sci vessels, and tanks, and more bases, ohhhhhh sadness....
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
EPIC FLANK FROM HOEJJA AND TAKES DOWN ALL OF LETA'S FORCES!
VESSELS STILL RAPING SHIT THOUGH, WITH IRRADIATE TAKING DOWN EVERYTHING!
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Wow this is actually really bad for Leta... he gets flanked really hard and loses his entire force. Something like 8 tanks go down.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
man if hoejja somehow manages to win this..... i will be vindicated in my refusal to believe leta is actually as good as he's hyped to be.
edit: and will hate myself for trading stork for leta in fpl, some risks are reckless, others are just stupid...
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On December 27 2009 14:50 bluemanrocks wrote:please spoiler this kind of stuff. looks like leta is just going to push with lots of tanks. if he loses......
Sorry about that. I didn't actually say who won at least. 
Oh god plaguuuuuuuuuuuu.
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haha Leta is going to lose.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Wow, that plague was HUGE. now make a mutalisk!
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What the fuck, this game is still going?
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Hoejja has 5 mining bases vs 2 and map control.
ops it's actually 4 with 1 going up.
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Cant believe this game is still goign on.good ole dark swarm!
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leta...plz bring this to ace..my night has just begun
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ow shit im late, SSM! bring this to ace! gogogogo
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LETA IS PLAYING TANK DEFENSE
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
LOL so many tanks from Leta.
IRRADIATE ON SCOURGE TAKES MOST OF THEM DOWN THANKS TO SCOURGE SUICIDE LOL!
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hahhaha hoejja suicides his entire force into letas billion tanks.
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what the FUCK hoejja
pure ling???!
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This game needs Nukes leta... just use Nukes!
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Oh my god Leta has soooooo many tanks.
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lol this game is a definite recommend. it looks like leta has the decisive advantage here (again) but he could blow it (again)
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wtf is this pure ling bullshit
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i just hope leta is more comfortable late game tvz than i am...i think its a safe bet
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Leta sieging a billion tanks and kills one of hoejja's expos gets another hoejjas trying to counter but keeps failing
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On December 27 2009 14:47 bluemanrocks wrote: why hasnt leta won yet......... this was posted 15 minutes ago lol. Mass Tank-marine lol wtf?
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
hoejja is so bad -_- what happened to this guy
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how long does hoejja expect to keep playing?
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Damnnn I just tuned in to see like, 15+ tanks and some medics wtf leta
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I love this tank style. It's like "screw your invincible units, I have tanks!"
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Leta has enough gas to do literally anything.. GG from Hoejja!
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Reminds me of that one epic JD Fantasy game on Outsider
GG FROM HOEJJA
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GG! well done tank whoring leta!!
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That was nuts.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
God Hoejja is so fucking horrible.
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Leta leaving random tanks around to die. I think he tried everything he could to give Hoejja a chance.
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LETA I LOVE YOU! NOW BRING THIS ACE MATCH HOME BABY!
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YES YES YES I GET TO SEE FLASH PLAY AGAIN!!!!
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Hoejja kills most of Letas army then GGs. lol?..
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match point for ace
does hite send a zerg to 2 hatch muta flash?
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yay leta gets a crown
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On December 27 2009 15:01 ShadowDrgn wrote: I love this tank style. It's like "screw your invincible units, I have tanks!"
THIS is when you should get guardians IMHO. Just like when toss goes archon/reaver in PvZ...
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I actually enjoyed that game quite a bit, was fairly back and forth, entirely about macro play.
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Mabye it's just me, but i always thought it was standard to go mass tank when you have a good number of bases late game
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wtf was that gg
right when it looked like he was getting way more of a chance...
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yarnc vs. flash matchpoint please
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hoejja needed to start upping hydras and playing hydra ling with plagues...
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leta vs flash epic TvT gogoggo!
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Most likely it will be Flash vs Leta.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
why thw fuck did hoejja pour 70+ lings into 9 oclock when there were 20+ tanks guarding it?
What kind of logic is that?
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On December 27 2009 15:03 2minutevictory wrote: Mabye it's just me, but i always thought it was standard to go mass tank when you have a good number of bases late game
Yeah it's that threshold in TvZ where, unless Zerg has something like 4+ running bases, he just can't produce enough stuff to crush the tanks.
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On December 27 2009 15:03 mmgoose wrote: yarnc vs. flash matchpoint please
And see Yarnc get owned?
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FINALLY
expecting leta or yarnc vs flash. either way.....
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On December 27 2009 15:04 FireGuyX wrote:And see Yarnc get owned?
seen flash vs 2 hatch muta on match point lately?
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On December 27 2009 15:03 Vivi57 wrote: wtf was that gg
right when it looked like he was getting way more of a chance...
He had just traded off most of his army for most of Leta's but he also was down to 1 mining base vs leta's 2
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
I hope KT sends out Violet for ace, so he can redeem himself. And KT will win 3-2 without having to send Flash for ace, and I get to see Violet win!
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On December 27 2009 15:04 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:04 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:03 mmgoose wrote: yarnc vs. flash matchpoint please And see Yarnc get owned? seen flash vs 2 hatch muta on match point lately?
Oh I didn't know the map was match point, but Yarnc is no Zero.
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On December 27 2009 15:03 Vivi57 wrote: wtf was that gg
right when it looked like he was getting way more of a chance... He was economically dead compared to Leta.
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Canada5565 Posts
A long TvT would be good right about now. I need something to lift my spirits
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On December 27 2009 15:03 FireGuyX wrote: Most likely it will be Flash vs Leta. You just know it will end up being type-B vs. Firefist somehow.
It always, always turns out like that.
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On December 27 2009 15:05 Xxio wrote: A long TvT would be good right about now. I need something to lift my spirits Yeah I'd love to see Leta vs Flash, as long as neither player rolls the other easily
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i hope leta get sent out, he has great tvt too
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Horang2 vs Flash. I'd wager.
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On December 27 2009 15:07 icystorage wrote: i hope leta get sent out, he has great tvt too
I wanna see late game 15 port wraith xD
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On December 27 2009 15:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:03 Vivi57 wrote: wtf was that gg
right when it looked like he was getting way more of a chance... He was economically dead compared to Leta. really?
it looked like he had 3 mining bases to 2
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Pretty sure KT will send Violet...
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On December 27 2009 15:07 motbob wrote: Horang2 vs Flash. I'd wager.
Horang2 would probably try some kind of proxy gate right next to flash's cc and try to make a dt from it.
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On December 27 2009 15:05 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:04 jalstar wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:03 mmgoose wrote: yarnc vs. flash matchpoint please And see Yarnc get owned? seen flash vs 2 hatch muta on match point lately? Oh I didn't know the map was match point, but Yarnc is no Zero.
yarnc is the player who created the build zero used last night
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On December 27 2009 15:07 motbob wrote: Horang2 vs Flash. I'd wager.
True test to see if Flash's TvP is good enough to deflect 1 base carriers.
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On December 27 2009 15:07 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 27 2009 15:03 Vivi57 wrote: wtf was that gg
right when it looked like he was getting way more of a chance... He was economically dead compared to Leta. really? it looked like he had 3 mining bases to 2 Which ones? Leta just killed his 3 o clock, so his only remaining one was the base under siege. Leta had two bases at the 9 o clock main.
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I suspect hite will send out a Protoss in anticipation of Flash.
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On December 27 2009 15:07 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 27 2009 15:03 Vivi57 wrote: wtf was that gg
right when it looked like he was getting way more of a chance... He was economically dead compared to Leta. really? it looked like he had 3 mining bases to 2
I don't know if you play (not meant to be an insult just wondering) but in TvZ if T is just warming up their 4th and 5th bases like that and has an army advantage with lots of tanks there is literally like no way for Z to win. There's no way Z can ever break the 4th and 5th base (as Hoejja demonstrated ... repeatedly) and that's just sooooooo much money that T will end up with like 25 Tanks and 15 Vessels to go with a mountain of M&M.
Edit: I say this as a Terran player. It's a nice feeling to pick up that second main - you have to screw up MAJORLY to lose that.
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On December 27 2009 15:07 motbob wrote: Horang2 vs Flash. I'd wager.
remember horang2's first televised win?
it was vs flash and created so much undeserved hype
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On December 27 2009 15:08 asdfTT123 wrote: Pretty sure KT will send Violet...
Ya ... is KT really going to send Flash when he has been playing two leagues the last two nights??
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Those hero-SCVs repairing the bunker pretty much won the game there.
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Yarnc will not get sent out in fear of Violet. KT is more likely to send out a P for Match Point anyways, especially Violet since he performs well on this map. It will probably be Leta vs Violet.
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On December 27 2009 15:10 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:08 asdfTT123 wrote: Pretty sure KT will send Violet... Ya ... is KT really going to send Flash when he has been playing two leagues the last two nights??
child labor
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On December 27 2009 15:10 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:08 asdfTT123 wrote: Pretty sure KT will send Violet... Ya ... is KT really going to send Flash when he has been playing two leagues the last two nights?? Well, if history's ever taught us anything. + Show Spoiler +
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On December 27 2009 15:10 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:08 asdfTT123 wrote: Pretty sure KT will send Violet... Ya ... is KT really going to send Flash when he has been playing two leagues the last two nights?? actually i think yes they would
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Violet has to redeem himself
wtf was that shit in fucking outsider
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I don't think it's very likely Flash will get sent out, he was prepping for two leagues this week, would they really have handed him the ace match as well?
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secret vs violet rematch imo
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On December 27 2009 15:10 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:08 asdfTT123 wrote: Pretty sure KT will send Violet... Ya ... is KT really going to send Flash when he has been playing two leagues the last two nights??
KT is powered by child labour. Of course they would.
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On December 27 2009 15:12 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:10 darktreb wrote:On December 27 2009 15:08 asdfTT123 wrote: Pretty sure KT will send Violet... Ya ... is KT really going to send Flash when he has been playing two leagues the last two nights?? KT is powered by child labour. Of course they would. why not? flash = auto-win
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On December 27 2009 15:08 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:05 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 jalstar wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:03 mmgoose wrote: yarnc vs. flash matchpoint please And see Yarnc get owned? seen flash vs 2 hatch muta on match point lately? Oh I didn't know the map was match point, but Yarnc is no Zero. yarnc is the player who created the build zero used last night And Daezang created the Bisu build... there's a reason why it's named after Bisu and not Daezang... [illustrating the point that just because you created it, doesn't mean you're the best at it, or even good at it]
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On December 27 2009 15:09 darktreb wrote: I don't know if you play (not meant to be an insult just wondering) but in TvZ if T is just warming up their 4th and 5th bases like that and has an army advantage with lots of tanks there is literally like no way for Z to win. There's no way Z can ever break the 4th and 5th base (as Hoejja demonstrated ... repeatedly) and that's just sooooooo much money that T will end up with like 25 Tanks and 15 Vessels to go with a mountain of M&M.
Edit: I say this as a Terran player. It's a nice feeling to pick up that second main - you have to screw up MAJORLY to lose that. He's probably a Protoss player, like me - in most of our lategame situations, even or near-even bases mean things can go either way. Terran is unique in their "my economy is even with yours so I win" lategame imbalance ;-)
Seriously though, lots of people who do in fact play Starcraft have a bad grasp of certain matchups simply because they don't play those matchups. And then there's people like me who have a bad grasp of all matchups.
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On December 27 2009 15:12 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:08 GTR wrote:On December 27 2009 15:05 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 jalstar wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:03 mmgoose wrote: yarnc vs. flash matchpoint please And see Yarnc get owned? seen flash vs 2 hatch muta on match point lately? Oh I didn't know the map was match point, but Yarnc is no Zero. yarnc is the player who created the build zero used last night And Daezang created the Bisu build... there's a reason why it's named after Bisu and not Daezang...
ZerO didn't use the "zero build" . ZerO used a strategy YarnC showed first.
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On December 27 2009 15:12 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:08 GTR wrote:On December 27 2009 15:05 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 jalstar wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:03 mmgoose wrote: yarnc vs. flash matchpoint please And see Yarnc get owned? seen flash vs 2 hatch muta on match point lately? Oh I didn't know the map was match point, but Yarnc is no Zero. yarnc is the player who created the build zero used last night And Daezang created the Bisu build... there's a reason why it's named after Bisu and not Daezang... If you're talking about 2 hatch mutalisks... YarnC has beaten Flash with it on several occasions.
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Yarnc's let us down so many times, how can you fathom that he'll start performing now?
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I just gotta say that Hoejja vs Leta was 1 of the most boring match in recent memory for me!! I wonder if its cause it was so many mistakes... but man, that game wasnt any good at all
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I keep thinking back to the Yarnc v. Sea series at WCG this year.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:13 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:12 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 27 2009 15:08 GTR wrote:On December 27 2009 15:05 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 jalstar wrote:On December 27 2009 15:04 FireGuyX wrote:On December 27 2009 15:03 mmgoose wrote: yarnc vs. flash matchpoint please And see Yarnc get owned? seen flash vs 2 hatch muta on match point lately? Oh I didn't know the map was match point, but Yarnc is no Zero. yarnc is the player who created the build zero used last night And Daezang created the Bisu build... there's a reason why it's named after Bisu and not Daezang... If you're talking about 2 hatch mutalisks... YarnC has beaten Flash with it on several occasions. And got raped by Flash the last time he used it against him. MOIHAHAHAHA!!!
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On December 27 2009 15:13 CaptainPlatypus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:09 darktreb wrote: I don't know if you play (not meant to be an insult just wondering) but in TvZ if T is just warming up their 4th and 5th bases like that and has an army advantage with lots of tanks there is literally like no way for Z to win. There's no way Z can ever break the 4th and 5th base (as Hoejja demonstrated ... repeatedly) and that's just sooooooo much money that T will end up with like 25 Tanks and 15 Vessels to go with a mountain of M&M.
Edit: I say this as a Terran player. It's a nice feeling to pick up that second main - you have to screw up MAJORLY to lose that. He's probably a Protoss player, like me - in most of our lategame situations, even or near-even bases mean things can go either way. Terran is unique in their "my economy is even with yours so I win" lategame imbalance ;-) Seriously though, lots of people who do in fact play Starcraft have a bad grasp of certain matchups simply because they don't play those matchups. And then there's people like me who have a bad grasp of all matchups.
Haha yeah maybe if Zerg had Recall and Stasis they could pull it out. Even in TvP I'd feel really good about my situation if I could pick up a FIFTH but Stasis and Recall make it less of a guaranteed win (though you should still definitely win).
I don't think I can ever remember losing a game in TvP where I got 5 bases ... oh wait I have ... to Carriers, haha.
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Flash probably wants to play. He's a huge favorite and would like to get more wins in PL to keep up his lead.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
I'm gonna laugh if they send out forGG LOL.
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On December 27 2009 15:16 TwoToneTerran wrote: Flash probably wants to play. He's a huge favorite and would like to get more wins in PL to keep up his lead.
I can see him feeling confident enough in his (double armory) turtle TvP to just go out for the hell of it. Only the dragons are really good enough to beat it in my opinion.
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United States33390 Posts
looks like Flash's schedule got the better of him
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
WTF NO FLASH?
LETA V VIOLET ACE!
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Leta vs Violet for ace. Chance for redemption?
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On December 27 2009 15:17 UGC4 wrote: leta is fkd
no he's not, this should be good
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On December 27 2009 15:17 SilverskY wrote: I'm gonna laugh if they send out forGG LOL.
When I saw that it wasn't flash, I feared this.
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Match point is pretty good for terrans, I'm thinking Leta is favored based on their current forms.
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hehe at least we dont have to worry about leta ending flash's TvT streak =p
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On December 27 2009 15:17 saikeraku wrote: Leta vs Violet!
As much as I hate to admit it, Leta probably dodged a bullet there.
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sigh, Leta is going to be sniped =/ At least i get +2 for Ace appearance.
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oh fuck me. No flash T.T Well at least TvP is one of my fav matchups to watch. Hope to see Leta get owned!
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Aw, cmon, it would have been a TvT instant win for KT, too.
+ Show Spoiler + As long as Flash kept an eye on his factory rally points.
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Haha I love how both Yarnc and Luxury are playing sooooo badly right now that the possibility of a twins ace match wasn't even brought up (and rightfully so).
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mountaindewjunkie knows his starcraft
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If you guys didn't tell me, I thought it was forgg because of the glasses. I was face palming when I saw a four eye from kt lol, didn't notice it's violet.
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from far away, i legitimately thought it was forGG.
then i snapped back to reality and it was violet.
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Damn I cant watch the stream or lr anymore so please lr! Ill be keeping up on my phone ^^
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considering how fucking shitty violet just played, hites got this.
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Violet ezpzlmnsqz.
When I overcome my pro-KT bias and my huge anti-Leta bias, I'd say he's still favored pretty strongly.
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On December 27 2009 15:18 Chen wrote: sigh, Leta is going to be sniped =/ At least i get +2 for Ace appearance.
Is it really being sniped if the expected send-out was Flash...? In TvT...?
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Canada5565 Posts
Lets see some storm drops!
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Oh dear god, violet actually do something good please
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
these new flash fans dont understand how awesome it is that KT doesn't need to send out Flash to win -_-
leave flash alone
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On December 27 2009 15:19 yhnmk wrote: considering how fucking shitty violet just played, hites got this. It's PvT. Don't take anything for granted. If Violet is capable of clicking on units, he can win.
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violet wtf silversky was right!
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I never looked at letas stats. I'm suprised he is so awful against protoss compared to his other two MUs. Violet has a good shot here.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:19 Megalisk wrote: violet wtf silversky was right! Bahahaha. Count it!~
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+ Show Spoiler +22:14 The chat room has been cleared by the moderator. 22:14 Silentness : ITS CALLED BUNKER 22:14 eeeee : Bunker + repair 22:14 MageKirby : marine seige mode 22:14 Vitalek : banceer 22:14 Mish : 12 tanks + mnm is so imba.. 22:14 MageKirby : imba to the max 22:14 far : or its called medics? 22:14 RateOfChange : boonka 22:14 MageKirby : marine with siege mode 22:14 Vitalek : medics in siege mode 22:14 Neos : All tanks lol 22:14 N DIE MOMMY : bunkie 22:15 eeeee : Firebat should selfdet into a nuke 22:15 Elyvilon : iloveoov vs yellow 22:15 icemac : this is many tanks yes? 22:15 RateOfChange : bookend 22:15 sniper5 changed their nickname to lasefn0pADSGFADFS. 22:15 IDRAFAN999 : i love a good idra replay 22:15 lasefn0pADSGFADFS : OMG HURRY UP WE KNWO HOEJJA LOST 22:15 icemac changed their nickname to Many tanks. 22:15 mrapex : who else loves their snuggies? 22:15 Vitalek : I bet there will be aotorepair in SC2 22:15 IDRAFAN999 : there is 22:15 Vitalek : so workers will be mech medic 22:15 IDRAFAN999 : already announced 22:15 Neos : Tanks: Ultralisk's natural enemy 22:15 Gann : my dog loves his snuggie 22:15 far : *sigh* sc2 22:15 poboxy : so Flash vs who?? 22:15 What is a man : AUTOMINE 22:15 What is a man : YEAH 22:15 eeeee : flash v leta prolly 22:15 toopham : Leta vs Flash for ACE? 22:15 What is a man : MBS 22:15 SBelmont : flash vs leta? 22:15 mrapex : i wear my snuggie to the movie theater 22:15 MageKirby : Tanks: Every race's natural enemy 22:15 SBelmont : it's match point 22:15 FingerBoom : hoejja doesn't micro that *** at all 22:15 lasefn0pADSGFADFS changed their nickname to pussylicker. 22:15 RateOfChange : flash vs future loser 22:15 dd : might use stats 22:15 ultimateq : if its flash vs leta, then leta is screwed 22:15 FingerBoom : one SCV blocks that 22:15 pussylicker : 22:15 far : SC2 - > NEXT SSBB 22:15 eeeee : Yarnc v Flash 22:15 Mish : MBS is really gay 22:15 FingerBoom : kid's so dumb 22:15 poboxy : wow TvsT 22:15 pussylicker changed their nickname to lolz. 22:15 idiot : LETA 22:16 theshibk : whats the score? 22:16 Gann : more like flash is screwed 22:16 Gann : leta #1 22:16 Gann : yeaaa 22:16 Vitalek : lol flash vs future looser 22:16 Vitalek : ahaha 22:16 IDRAFAN999 : automine is definitely an improvement, MBS is ok if they add other things to do 22:16 mrapex : its 2-2 22:16 theshibk : k 22:16 MageKirby : Flash vs Person 22:16 HappyFeet : ssbb sucks balls 22:16 idiot : MBS IS THE BEST, GO PLAY DUNE LOL 22:16 far : automine is a noobprovement 22:16 lolz changed their nickname to FROZEN MANNER CC. 22:16 HappyFeet : ssbm is rocks 22:16 eeeee : DUNE owns 22:16 Silentness : what the hell is automine? 22:16 Flash_BI : secret vs flash 22:16 What is a man : i know, i was just laughing about how many people cried and cried about those additions 22:16 eagle : leta outturtles flash ne day 22:16 far : ssbm is amazing, ssbb is ghey 22:16 eeeee : Dune is literally the greatest game ever 22:16 mrapex : you just build the scv's and they mine 22:16 IDRAFAN999 : automine makes it so you can rally to minerals and they auto split 22:16 TheLordAlmighty : whay is ssbm 22:16 Silentness : wtf really? 22:16 miragee : how bisu vs frozean looks likeß 22:16 Vitalek : Dune 2 the Battle For Arrakis on SEGA was awesome 22:16 mrapex : you dont have to tell them 22:16 SBelmont : they won't send yarnc on match point with t8-4z 22:16 dd : ssbb is trash 22:16 HappyFeet : captain falcon was great in ssbm 22:16 far : super smash brothers melee 22:16 idiot : SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL? MORE LIKE SUPER SMASH BROS BAD 22:16 N DIE MOMMY : can we have automicro instead of automine 22:16 TheLordAlmighty : what is ssbm? 22:16 MageKirby : ikr 22:16 dd : melee is the shiz 22:16 Neos : Epiccccccccc 22:16 HappyFeet : now he sucks balls 22:16 MageKirby : ssbm was so good 22:16 Mish : WTTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF auto split?!?!?!?!?! 22:16 far : KNEE JUSTICE 22:16 mrapex : META KNIGHT 22:16 N DIE MOMMY : FLASH VS LETA 22:16 What is a man : lol what is this music 22:17 Hinanawi : COME ON FLASH VS PROTOSS PLEASE 22:17 eeeee : AHH KNEE 22:17 ultimateq : starting? 22:17 Gann : they wont send yarnc because yarnc sucks 22:17 TrollOfTheYear : lol meta knight 22:17 FingerBoom : ACEU 22:17 Lunar : LUXURY!!! 22:17 silosy : dune 2 is the best, single unit select ftw 22:17 Silentness : Flash vs Kal 22:17 theshibk : KWANRO VS BOGUS 22:17 Neos : FLASH VS....... 22:17 dd : ogn has no protoss 22:17 eeeee : yarncccc 22:17 IDRAFAN999 : splitting scvs is dumb, adds nothing to the game 22:17 Hinanawi : FLASH VS PROTOSS 22:17 eeeee : I BELIEVE 22:17 Kenpachi : NeverGG 22:17 SBelmont : expecting flash vs leta 22:17 Silentness : wait Kal? 22:17 Kenpachi : LOL 22:17 far : not flash 22:17 mrprophalactic : ocarana of time was wway ahad of its time imo 22:17 Lunar : LUXURY!!! 22:17 Mish : *** auto split!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22:17 IDRAFAN999 : oh man flash won that game because of how well he split his scvs 22:17 MageKirby : watch yellow come out 22:17 Flash_BI : violet vs flash 22:17 dd : ktf might sent stats 22:17 TrollOfTheYear : flash play please 22:17 Shinshady : FLASH VS SECRET 22:17 MageKirby : i mean 22:17 Neos : FLASH VS........... 22:17 dd : or violet 22:17 MageKirby : luxury 22:17 Fried Turkeyz : ACEEEE 22:17 Havoc : secret won his game 22:17 Vitalek : lol yeah singe unit select ) 22:17 Lunar : twin 22:17 Havoc : send him 22:17 far : i still play OoT 22:17 dd : violet abuses on match point 22:17 idiot : FLASH VS. JAEDONG 22:17 rawr : ssbm = super smash brothers melee 22:17 Gann : violet vs leta 22:17 T_T : yarnc vs flash 22:17 eeeee : Violet v secret 22:17 poboxy : Why we all assume Flash? 22:17 Zekk : ace match? 22:17 idiot : JAEDONG SPECIAL APPEARANCE 22:17 Lunar : twin please 22:17 Havoc : JAEDONG yes 22:17 Mystlord : LETA V VIOLET?! 22:17 FingerBoom : flash vs leta 22:17 TheLordAlmighty : thanks 22:17 RateOfChange : flash vs forfiet 22:17 911 : flash vs jaedong? 22:17 Neos : WUT 22:17 Vitalek : but that time it was BLOW OUT strategy best evah 22:17 mrprophalactic : ct was good adventure game top 22:17 Ilove4minutesHYUNA : OMGOMGOMGOGMGOGMGOGM 22:17 dd : violet leta 22:17 Mystlord : LOL 22:17 MageKirby : WTF 22:17 dd : called it 22:17 N DIE MOMMY : WTF?????????????????????????? 22:17 Lunar : wtf???? 22:17 FingerBoom : OH WOW 22:17 far : TOLD YOU NO FLASH 22:17 eeeee : lol 22:17 Kenpachi : who? 22:17 Mystlord : LETA V VIOLET 22:17 Ilove4minutesHYUNA : STUPID COACH 22:17 Havoc : leta v violet 22:17 Mish : WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 22:17 Neos : NOOOOOOO 22:17 Lunar : is that forgg? 22:17 Silentness : WTF IS THIS? 22:17 cdd : lol 22:17 MyFPLgotKILLERd : YES 22:17 FingerBoom : *** 22:17 SBelmont : leta vs violet wow 22:17 eeeee : ahhaahah 22:17 Kenpachi : VIOLA 22:17 Zekk : wtf 22:17 911 : forrg?? 22:17 Kenpachi : WOOOOO 22:17 harbllll : whaaATTT 22:17 ultimateq : wow 22:17 RateOfChange : waaaaagh 22:17 Silentness : WTF IS THIS? 22:17 Gann : called it 22:17 911 : ITS FORGG 22:17 mrapex : WTF IS THIS 22:17 dd : violet is abusive on match point 22:17 FROZEN MANNER CC : *** 22:17 belgo : l o l 22:17 911 : ITS FORGG 22:17 idiot : WANTS TO GIVE FLASHA BREAK 22:17 theshibk : lolol 22:17 far : TOLD YOU I TOLD ALL OF YOU EVERY SINGLE ONE 22:17 MyFPLgotKILLERd : VIOLET SAVE MY FP[L 22:17 ultimateq : someone needs to get stabbed 22:17 cdd : violet better man up this time 22:17 911 : HOLY *** 22:17 toopham : VIOLENT? 22:17 TrollOfTheYear : some random godawfuls 22:17 FROZEN MANNER CC : KTF loses 22:17 bortin : wtf 22:17 Zirc : FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 22:17 shizuru : LOL LOL LOL 22:17 FingerBoom : KT WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY LIQUIBET 22:17 HappyFeet : DAMN YOU KT 22:17 Neos : Boooooooooooooooo 22:17 SBelmont : oh forgg 22:17 poboxy : TOLD YOU SO?!!!!  22:17 far : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I WIN 22:17 MyFPLgotKILLERd : VIOLET SAVE MY FPL 22:17 bortin : we want flash 22:17 N DIE MOMMY : WHY NO FLASH 22:17 Silentness : OMG 22:17 bortin : FLASH 22:17 Zurgling Rash : it's a toss map 22:17 idiot : LOL 22:17 mrprophalactic : chrono trigger that is 22:17 mrapex : OMG 22:17 What is a man : LOL AT CHAT 22:17 Lidstrom : HITE WINNSSSSSSS 22:17 MyFPLgotKILLERd : VIOLET SAVE MY FPL 22:17 ill : violet will go savage on letas *** hole 22:17 theKOT : Flash might be tired from pwning so hard 22:17 IDRAFAN999 : IDRA VS FLASH 22:17 Shinshady : WHY NO FORGG 22:17 bortin : WE WANT FLASH 22:17 Kenpachi : They know flash sucks balls on match point 22:17 911 : WHY FORGG 22:17 ghrur : Wait, whatttttttttttttt? 22:17 shizuru : HAHAHAHAHAHHAAA 22:17 harbllll : kt haets wins 22:17 foogs : these newbs 22:17 MyFPLgotKILLERd : VIOLET SAVE MY FPLLL 22:18 RateOfChange : waaaaghhghh 22:18 idiot : LOLOLOL 22:18 000 : violet >lux 22:18 foogs : wow 22:18 ghrur : NO FLASH? 22:18 Pidgeotto : forgg? 22:18 far : I TOLD YOU THEY WOULD MIND GAME I TOLD YOU 22:18 mrapex : WTF IS THIS 22:18 idiot : FORGGGG 22:18 HappyFeet : FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU 22:18 Ilove4minutesHYUNA : this coach is a *** dumbass 22:18 sieunhan : whooooooooo 22:18 dd : violet abuses the hell out of pvt 22:18 idiot : FROGGGGGG 22:18 911 : *** FORGG 22:18 bortin : WTF 22:18 MageKirby : i dont think its forgg 22:18 ultimateq : I think I am ready to kill someone 22:18 far : I EVEN CALLED FORGG 22:18 N DIE MOMMY : VIOLET IS WASTING MY FPL POINTS 22:18 bortin : WE WANT FLASH 22:18 theshibk : my fpl got raped 22:18 mrapex : OMFG 22:18 idiot : FROGGGGG 22:18 dd : on match point 22:18 Nao : hahahahhahahhahahhahahha 22:18 idiot : FROGGGGG 22:18 Disregard : FLASH VS ITS VIOLET 22:18 RateOfChange : down down down down 22:18 bortin : WE WANT FLASH 22:18 911 : FORGGG WTF 22:18 What is a man : OH MY GOD NO FLASH EVERYONE CRY 22:18 HappyFeet : GROW SOME BALLS ALREADY KT 22:18 MageKirby : its not forgg ;;; 22:18 dd : its violet 22:18 theshibk : i put skyhigh roro and hyvaa on my anti team 22:18 FingerBoom : KT COACH *** UP MY LIQUIBET LIKE OZ COACH USED TO 22:18 cdd : violet 22:18 11 : violet has as good a chance 22:18 dd : not forgg 22:18 911 : its forgg u fools 22:18 AssiRoyal : its violet 22:18 HappyFeet : IT'S ACE MATCH FFS, SEND YOUR *** ACE 22:18 mrapex : I DIDNT NOT SEE MY DAUGHTER TODAY FOR THIS 22:18 cdd : you guys are blind 22:18 Kaskade : lol the viewer count dropped 22:18 11 : as flash 22:18 idiot : FORGG? MORE LIKE FORBG 22:18 dd : its violet dumass 22:18 theshibk : so i like negativ 40 22:18 Crt : if flash has a new vP build, he might want to save it for MSL 22:18 hayata R2 : do you mean FROGG? 22:18 Flash_BI : flash is tired been playing since friday 22:18 N DIE MOMMY : i gonna bath and skip this game 22:18 far : dude i totally called that 22:18 Neos : We lost 300 viewers lol 22:18 poboxy : A winner vs a loser?! 22:18 ultimateq : /wrist 22:18 Ilove4minutesHYUNA : viewer count dropped from 1000 to 700 22:18 911 : FROBG? 22:18 eeeee : its violet... 22:18 MageKirby : lolololol 22:18 sieunhan : WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 22:18 dd : violet abuses pvt 22:18 bortin : I PASSED UP GETTING LAID TO SEE FLASH IN ACE MATCH 22:18 bortin : WTF 22:18 bortin : LETS RIOT 22:18 ultimateq : lol 22:18 effort : that reaver reminds me of gunbound 22:18 911 : LOL 22:18 mrapex : LOL 22:18 FingerBoom : lol they cut to violet losing PvP 22:18 theshibk : lol 22:18 waxypants : loool 22:18 Participation in the chat room has been disabled by the moderator.
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Terrans have been performing really well vs P on this map so don't give up just yet, Leta fans.
That said, if Violet can crush Sea, Violet can crush Leta.
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violet SHOULD win with his pvt inching out letas tvp imo, but he played REALLY poorly vs secret. that being said, i dont really think leta played very well either. THAT being said, neither of them were playing a pvt. should be a gg at the very least
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On December 27 2009 15:19 Hinanawi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:18 Chen wrote: sigh, Leta is going to be sniped =/ At least i get +2 for Ace appearance. Is it really being sniped if the expected send-out was Flash...? In TvT...?
Lol isn't that the epitome of a snipe? You expect it to end in a flash but get ambushed with a violet instead?
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Leta vs Flash! Did Flash streak end?
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Violet played an ace match against mind on this map as well. It involved nukes iirc, so Leta's ghosts won't really be new.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Violet played extremely well against Sea and won. Leta isn't notorious for monstrous TvP. And Violet is clutch for KT when they need him.
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oH Tempest hot hot <3
Go gO Violet.
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Leta vs Violet, nukes and lockdowns please!
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On December 27 2009 15:22 SilverskY wrote: Violet played extremely well against Sea and won. Leta isn't notorious for monstrous TvP. And Violet is clutch for KT when they need him.
hence why i said leta is fkd. but we'll see
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On December 27 2009 15:21 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:19 Hinanawi wrote:On December 27 2009 15:18 Chen wrote: sigh, Leta is going to be sniped =/ At least i get +2 for Ace appearance. Is it really being sniped if the expected send-out was Flash...? In TvT...? Lol isn't that the epitome of a snipe? You expect it to end in a flash but get ambushed with a violet instead? I don't think hite had much of a choice about which player they sent out Yarnc is terrible at zvp and the risk of a protoss coming out is high Leta on the other hand isn't absolutely horrible at tvp (but he's not good at it either ) and he's still damn good at tvt and ok at tvz. he had a decent chance no matter who kt sent out imo
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Hmm... Do I root for Hite to pull he upset?... Yes, because KT won't play Luxury, letting Hoejja and 815 in too much. Senseless fanboy bitterness, go!
+ Show Spoiler +Now that's news you can use -_-
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Horang2 might have been the best choice for ace, realistically.
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On December 27 2009 15:21 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Leta vs Flash! Did Flash streak end? No, but he just came off of individual league games against Jaedong and Zero. He hasn't been practicing TvT or TvP at all and KT knows those are by far the most likely races for Hite to send out, for exactly that reason.
Also yeah, arbiters and carriers are nearly imba enough to make for vultures and siege tanks. ;-)
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KT is pretty bold by not sending Flash... Well Violet is very good too. ^^
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Leta! bring back the ace match bonjwa please
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Also I don't think Flash WANTED to play Leta. I don't think he's played a single televised TvT on Match Point, a map with a lot of quirks.
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:25 Welmu wrote: KT is pretty bold by not sending Flash... Well Violet is very good too. ^^
I wouldn't call it bold... he is currently deep in both individual leagues, they don't want to pull a Jaedong and burn him out.
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Canada5565 Posts
I really don't like this map, too linear
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:28 darktreb wrote: Also I don't think Flash WANTED to play Leta. I don't think he's played a single televised TvT on Match Point, a map with a lot of quirks. True, but then again Flash handed Leta's ass to him the last time they played and that was even before he went godmode in TvT.
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On December 27 2009 15:28 Xxio wrote: I really don't like this map, too linear Your thoughts on parabolic maps?
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On December 27 2009 15:29 SilverskY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:28 darktreb wrote: Also I don't think Flash WANTED to play Leta. I don't think he's played a single televised TvT on Match Point, a map with a lot of quirks. True, but then again Flash handed Leta's ass to him the last time they played and that was even before he went godmode in TvT.
The last time they played i'm pretty sure that flash didn't rally one of his factories and he had like 10 tanks sitting near one at the end of the game. He lost.. (edit: it was on andromeda if you don't remember)
Are you talking about the Neo Medusa game?
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On December 27 2009 15:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:28 Xxio wrote: I really don't like this map, too linear Your thoughts on parabolic maps? Too parabolic ^^
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:30 2minutevictory wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:29 SilverskY wrote:On December 27 2009 15:28 darktreb wrote: Also I don't think Flash WANTED to play Leta. I don't think he's played a single televised TvT on Match Point, a map with a lot of quirks. True, but then again Flash handed Leta's ass to him the last time they played and that was even before he went godmode in TvT. The last time they played i'm pretty sure that flash didn't rally one of his factories and he had like 10 tanks sitting near one at the end of the game.. Are you talking about the Neo Medusa game? The neo medusa game was more recent than that one. That was even before TvT became FvT.
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Robotic facility going down for Violet, Leta expanding.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Leta went FD I think, but just lost all his rines to dragoon harrass.
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Leta carelessly loses all his marines... Building a starport. Mine kills a goon
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51453 Posts
not FD, just a mine defense opening.
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On December 27 2009 15:31 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 27 2009 15:28 Xxio wrote: I really don't like this map, too linear Your thoughts on parabolic maps? Too parabolic ^^ Maybe it's time for a hypocycloid revolution.
Very standard game thus far, some action at start, but Leta's mines repell the early goons.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:33 GTR wrote: not FD, just a mine defense opening. Ah my B, I saw 4 rines and a couple vults and mines. Oops~ :S
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Anti-Reaver Wraith for Leta. Slow vult gets a look at the natural
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Leta has a wraith out ready to intercept a shuttle from Violet.. Which is on route.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Observer sees the wraith and the shuttle backs off.
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51453 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:31 Scaramanga wrote:On December 27 2009 15:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 27 2009 15:28 Xxio wrote: I really don't like this map, too linear Your thoughts on parabolic maps? Too parabolic ^^ Maybe it's time for a hypocycloid revolution. Very standard game thus far, some action at start, but Leta's mines repell the early goons.
Longinus?
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Leta aiming to take 6oclock.
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On December 27 2009 15:36 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 27 2009 15:31 Scaramanga wrote:On December 27 2009 15:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 27 2009 15:28 Xxio wrote: I really don't like this map, too linear Your thoughts on parabolic maps? Too parabolic ^^ Maybe it's time for a hypocycloid revolution. Very standard game thus far, some action at start, but Leta's mines repell the early goons. Longinus?
>_< Yes.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
OMG DROPSHIP GETS AWAY, AND THE DROPPED UNITS DO NOTHING!
Violet could've sniped that dropship..
LOL Mine takes out a few probes. How sad.
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VIOLET TRIGGERS TEH MINE. Only 1 probe dies tho
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Violet does something so stupid I don't even want to explain it, but luckily he only loses 1 probe.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
OH WOW VIOLET WALKED RIGHT INTO 2 MINES AND LOST 2 GOONS LOL!
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Violet needs to use that ob, loses another 2 goons to mines, then loses an ob to a turret
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Violet moving out with goons + obs + shuttle. He loses 2 goons to a mine.
Violet getting ready to take his 4th as Leta lands his 3rd.
Violet pressuring Leta's nat, but he backs off.
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Leta's army is... so small.
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A group of goons + obs walk to a patch of mines and violet still manages to lose 2.
Amazing.
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Violet isnt on top of his game, i still dont know why they didnt send out flash T_T
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Oh god, violet going carriers?
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Using Carriers against Leta might be kind of silly, considering his practice partners.
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On December 27 2009 15:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Leta's army is... so small. 1 tank at nat, 3 tanks defending third and 4 tanks readying for a drop... yeah if Violet went for a heavy pressure attack... like hes doing with an insane # of zlots, gotta be at least 2 full control groups there. CARRIERS INCOMING
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On December 27 2009 15:39 Scaramanga wrote: Violet isnt on top of his game, i still dont know why they didnt send out flash T_T
Flash just played in OSL AND MSl..give him a break.
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Reaver drop at Leta's 6'oclock expo. Some SCVs die.
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Looks like carriers for Violet.
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On December 27 2009 15:39 Nevuk wrote: Using Carriers against Leta might be kind of silly, considering his practice partners. haha
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
DUAL DROPSHIPS FOR LETA! GETS SPOTTED BY AN OBS!
2 STARGATE CARRIERS GOING UP FOR VIOLET!
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Cmon Leta you are the Bjonwa of Ace matches! thats why I got u on my PFL team!
Gogogo Leta build some goliaths now..xD
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:D average play for violet
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carriers literally in the corner, Leta barely saves his tanks at the cost of alot of vultures
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
VIOLET ATTACKING LETA'S FORCES! Leta saves his tanks with dropships.
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2 drop ships get spotted by an ob.
Leta doing a 4 tanks in drop + lots of vults tactical push. Violet knows its coming and stomps it pretty hard. Tanks and DSs escape though.
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Leta targeting Nexus. Perfect.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Leta moving to attack bottom right. Violet taking an expo at 12.
Violet moving his troops down to defend, but the NEXUS GOES DOWN!!!
Leta's force is destroyed.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Violet now has 4 Stargates, and Leta still has not started goliaths.
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Leta doesnt know about the Carriers, wow this is going to be such a lame game. 6 carriers appear-->GG
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Leta still unaware of carriers? I've seen no goliaths. Well, there's one.
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Violet is double expanding at the same time
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Violet loses 5:00 nexus, but it's rebuilding as he expands to 11:00. Looking good for KT.
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Violet starts expanding to the top left and rebuilds his nexus bottom right.
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Canada5565 Posts
woah, violet just swallowing the map
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Violet retakes bottom right and takes top left.
Leta still hasn't taken the mineral only for some reason.
4 Gols out for Leta, but I don't think he's continuing production...
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Violets got 12 and 10 up, he should take this now
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not many goliaths for leta. he's gonna be in some trouble
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6 bases to 3 so fast? Leta deserves to lose :/
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all those carriers and virtually no goliaths. leta is soooooo screwed
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Violet learned how to expand gj
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Both players are actually playing pretty well. Violet is a little sloppy with his units but that's uh, normal for him. Leta is throwing away units in harass and not getting very much due to decent defense. Killing that one expo I don't think was worth it with no probes dead.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Violet has 6 Carriers now, enough to move out.
2 Vults get into Violet's base. Don't do anything before dying..
LETA MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE CORE WORKING THOUGH!
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always good to see mass carriers.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
RANGE NOW UPGRADING FOR LETA! HE KNOWS!
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Violet has 7 carriers already, Leta is fucked. critical mass is probably already obtained. Leta sees late archives, hope he knows whats up now at least
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51453 Posts
Leta is going to get HorangTwo'ed.
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Time for the big reveal by Violet.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
CARRIERS REVEALED FOR VIOLET! VIOLET ATTACKING LETA'S NATURAL WITH HIS GROUND WHILE DEFENDING TOP LEFT WITH HIS CARRIERS!!
TAKING DOWN GOLS SYSTEMATICALLY!
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Leta has <10 gols with his main army as it moves to prush the top left.
Violet counters at Leta's nat.
Carriers fight off Leta's force, and it gets pulled back to the nat.
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well, violet has no ground army so...
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On December 27 2009 15:45 GTR wrote: Leta is going to get HorangTwo'ed.
horang2 would build this many bases?
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
CC AT MINERAL ONLY GOES DOWN!
LETA'S TANKS MOVING TO 6!
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i think it might be a bit too late for leta.i don't know.
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Min only CC goes down to carriers.
Violet now on 5 mining bases.
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Carriers snipe the CC, Leta has to do something drastic with his tank army, preferably sack it for a few bases. Violet ahead of game with a cannon line
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Leta waited FARRR too long to get goliaths. Even tho he knew carriers were comming he kept building nothing but tanks so that when the carriers arrived, there were as many carriers as he had goliaths.
That is very bad obviously.
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On December 27 2009 15:46 jalstar wrote:horang2 would build this many bases? Sometimes, yes, but he'd lose most of them by game's end
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violet should get high templars.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Leta is making a good number of depots.
Leta going to attack bottom right, but Violet has troops there and the carriers are now down there, taking down all those troops.
Violet probably moving to 6.
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mass carriers=instant win.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Wow that is SOoooo many Carriers.
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CC @ 6 gets sniped by carriers. Game over.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
WTF VIOLET MOVES INTO THE TURRETS? THEY KILL A CARRIER!
CC AT 6 GOES DOWN!
Violet's top left also goes down, but Leta now IS NOT MINING.
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Mystlord
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Violet kills Leta's 6 o'clock expo.
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lol Violet loses a carrier to turrets. will still snipe the CC. Leta trades bases but cant afford that right now, he might get 2 for 1 tho
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if violet screws up now,he should be kicked out of KT.
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:47 FireGuyX wrote: mass carriers=instant win.
I actually have a replay in of a game I played named "carriers = win"
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Leta going ghosts... wooo Leta you are a fun guy.
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Between carriers and arbiters, you better believe that terrans would gladly swap valkyries for the ability to farm scourge
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carriers are fucking gay ._. gogo leta! you can do this
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51453 Posts
Loving the recent shifts of gameplay into lesser-used units like Dark Archons and Ghosts.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:48 EvilTeletubby wrote:I actually have a replay in of a game I played named "carriers = win"  Are you a toss player?~ llolll
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Leta taking down Violet's 12, but Violet is attacking Leta's main!
ARMORIES GOING DOWN! LETA'S UNABLE TO PRODUCE GOLS NOW!
LOL VIOLET BUILDS A NEXUS AT 6 TO DENY IT!
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oooo i see ghost tech for leta
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
LMFAO manner Nex to steal 6 o'clock.
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LOL violet is taking 6, doing some nice damage in the main aswell
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Hashahahahaha Manner Nexus... god tonight has been sooooo BM
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Violet nexing at the 6 w/o even taking down the scanner and refinery. So stylish.
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Armories get sniped, thats gotta be GG, OFFENSIVE NEXUS LOL. PLACES A NEX WHERE LETA IS MINING
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Crowd applausing mass carriers. MANNER NEXUS! Well, actually, Violet lost two bases, so let's call it "necessary"
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51453 Posts
i think that nexus takeover was more tactical and less bm as he has carriers there to defend ;p
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i'll rofl if violet loses
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5930 Posts
Violet is truly TheRock of today.
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it is the proper place to expo now...hope leta nukes it tho
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On December 27 2009 15:49 GTR wrote: i think that nexus takeover was more tactical and less bm as he has carriers there to defend ;p
This is right... with the carrier force that is the base he can most naturally defend w/ that narrow choke and all.
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I like the nexus with a comsat station on it .
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
AHHH GOLS CATCH CARRIERS IN THE OPEN!
1 Carrier goes down! Armory rebuilt at the natural.
Violet massing up a lot of ground troops now.
Only 1 base left for Leta - the mineral only.
Leta building a CC at top left..
OMG VIOLET'S GROUND ARMY TAKING DOWN THE MINERAL ONLY AND HIS CARRIER ARMY TAKING DOWN TOP LEFT!
Leta pushing into Violet's bottom right!
Violet taking 12!
Leta distancing mining at 6!
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Leta loses his only mining base for one of Violets that wasnt mining. his front is broken and hes bleeding SCV's and gols
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On December 27 2009 15:49 Chen wrote: Armories get sniped, thats gotta be GG, OFFENSIVE NEXUS LOL. PLACES A NEX WHERE LETA IS MINING not a manner nexus if its in a secured location that leta is *long* mining from in desperation...
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Violets just going to push into the main and rape
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On December 27 2009 15:50 Megalisk wrote:I like the nexus with a comsat station on it  . Imagine if lone comsats were rescuable buildings if you build a nex or hatchery next to it o.O
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Violet has a base going up at the 12 so he'll be mining again soon. Leta has a so so army, but he's going to lose his facts and no way he gets another base up.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
The CC at Leta's mineral only goes down.
Violet now charging into Leta's main.
Goons go down, but Gols temporarily hold it..
LOL THE PYLON BLOCK AT 12 BLOCKS THE PROBES TOO! ROFL!
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51453 Posts
probes running laps at 12
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
lMFAO probes doing loopdylloops because of pylon block at 12.
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why not go for an elimination
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Figures, I come into the match late, and the ACE match is sheer insanity.
xD
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On December 27 2009 15:50 Megalisk wrote:I like the nexus with a comsat station on it  .
I once saw that in a Boxer replay on Luna...ironically the Protoss went carriers and won
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PYLON BLOCKS VIOLET FROM MINING only shot for Lets is to kill all of those carriers with his mass gols, probably not going to happen since violet has alot of goons
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
The entirety of Leta's production capabilities are dead. He's not mining.
He's sitting at 40 minerals now.
Violet isn't mining either, but he has 489 minerals left...
NEXUS AT 12 STAYS UP!
SO CLOSE!
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Violet's carriers get to 12 in time to save it from tanks. It has barely any HP though.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Wow saves the nexus in the brink of destruction
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OH VIOLET SICK, targets different tanks with the carriers and just saves the nexsus,
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Basically no way back for Leta
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Nexus is saved. this has to be GG, Violet cant compete with 12 (18?) Carriers
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Violet BARELY saves his 9 o'clock with his full control group of carriers.
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United States33390 Posts
12 carriers wins this fight straight up I think =o?
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oh no... leta is on his last leg...
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Leta's army is now like 2 control groups of gols.
Leta's army engages Violet's goliaths.
Goliaths are forced toretreat.
TEMPLAR STORM!!
Ahh it gets nothing.
Leta's goliaths go down!
Leta has no more ground troops.
GG from Leta!
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Leta loses all his goliaths and GGs!!!
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More carriers than there are gols, Leta GG's
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why did they not play flash in an ace
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FUUUUUU VIOLET YOU BM PROTOSS TRASH
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Canada5565 Posts
I feel kind of bad for Leta...but I'm glad KT won that's it for the night 
next game: NaDa vs. YellOw !
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I wonder what Violet's new secret carrier micro technique is?
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I guess that sub-50% TvP rate isn't a fluke Leta.
Nor is Violets very good PvT streak.
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Protoss imba 1a2a3a meme continues on!
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Violet with the redemption. That was ace match worthy. Awesome
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great game leta, i still love you! such a great game
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
its nice to see Violet constantly using rA's PvT build
feels so warm inside
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another reason to hate the fuck out of carriers
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On December 27 2009 15:55 BlackMesa wrote: why did they not play flash in an ace OSL, MSL, Proleague. seriously this guy is human.
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I can't believe Leta's star sense didn't scout the Carriers.
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:55 BlackMesa wrote: why did they not play flash in an ace
1) Read the thread, 2) It didn't matter anyways.
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On December 27 2009 15:55 asdfTT123 wrote: FUUUUUU VIOLET YOU BM PROTOSS TRASH Quoted for future ban.
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oHohOHOHohoh. I really wanted Leta to win. Only Stork is allowed to use carriers.
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On December 27 2009 15:55 BlackMesa wrote: why did they not play flash in an ace
because they don't have to
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GG from leta well played by violet.
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always sad to see carriers win a game
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Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP.
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On December 27 2009 15:55 BlackMesa wrote: why did they not play flash in an ace
He needed a break.he had OSL AND MSL...He's only been playing zergs..
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On December 27 2009 15:55 Avidkeystamper wrote: I wonder what Violet's new secret carrier micro technique is?
1a2a3a, move back, 1a2a3a, move back, repeat, repeat, repeat... -_-
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Can someone link me a recent game where it's a fairly even game, toss goes carriers and terran wins? I'd love to see it.
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Protoss - When in doubt, mass carriers.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:56 asdfTT123 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 Avidkeystamper wrote: I wonder what Violet's new secret carrier micro technique is? 1a2a3a, move back, 1a2a3a, move back, repeat, repeat, repeat... -_- "GRR IM SO ANGRY LISTEN TO MY PAIN"
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On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too.
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Leta was so passive for the first 12 minutes of that game despite killing tons of goons. He deserved that loss for sure.
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On December 27 2009 15:55 cabarkapa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 BlackMesa wrote: why did they not play flash in an ace because they don't have to
*sniffle*
It's...it's so beautiful that it's true.
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On December 27 2009 15:56 sleeepy wrote: Can someone link me a recent game where it's a fairly even game, toss goes carriers and terran wins? I'd love to see it.
Flash versus Stork grand finals in GSI was pretty much all long close macro games where Stork went carriers and Flash won that finals 3-2.
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On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. Do you mean PvZ? Outsider is just... ehhh, for Violet, in any matchup.
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On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too.
Idra made my day...
again!
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too. PvP is his best MU statistically... what are you talking about... (To FireguyX)
God it's so awesome being a KT fan and watching the team evolve into a team that can win without having to exploit Flash... GOGO KT!
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Also, KT 14-3 with +26. Woow. No one is catching up to them until at least r5.
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carriers make me throw up inside tbh
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too. Lol love you Idra.
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On December 27 2009 15:57 tedster wrote: Leta was so passive for the first 12 minutes of that game despite killing tons of goons. He deserved that loss for sure.
Leta was expecting standard arbiter play from violet, so his build was tweaked for that. You see his scan just after carriers first attacked. The only conclusion I can see is that he failed to detect Violets carrier production in time.
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On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too.
I'd make a crack about you being bitter towards KT after Firefist allkilled CJ, but frankly CJ is the only team that has KT's number so I'll retort with SHUT UP YOU BIG MEANIE >:[[[[
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On December 27 2009 16:00 InDaHouse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:57 tedster wrote: Leta was so passive for the first 12 minutes of that game despite killing tons of goons. He deserved that loss for sure. Leta was expecting standard arbiter play from violet, so his build was tweaked for that. You see his scan just after carriers first attacked. The only conclusion I can see is that he failed to detect Violets carrier production in time. Violet hasn't used arbiters in the last 4 or so pvts that he played. I have no idea why Leta would have expected him to not go them. It's not even like Violet tried to hide the tech.
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Dude I love Violet but PvT lategame is just ridiculous. There's sooooooooooo many options for Protoss and the fact that you can make HT for 50 mins in the end to go with your Carriers is just icing on the cake.
Even if Violet couldn't rebuild his Nexus he still could have made NINE High Templar....
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KT is out of control :S
But all in all that loss was very well deserved by Leta. He let Violet take complete control of the map didn't snipe any Obs and moved his army to fight Violet without having Goliaths anywhere near.
Should had committed to that last push as well. Violet was completely defenseless and mining from one base while Leta was splitting his army and trying to take down inactive expansions.
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United States4796 Posts
Leta lost and my LB died, but great games!
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On December 27 2009 16:02 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 16:00 InDaHouse wrote:On December 27 2009 15:57 tedster wrote: Leta was so passive for the first 12 minutes of that game despite killing tons of goons. He deserved that loss for sure. Leta was expecting standard arbiter play from violet, so his build was tweaked for that. You see his scan just after carriers first attacked. The only conclusion I can see is that he failed to detect Violets carrier production in time. Violet hasn't used arbiters in the last 4 or so pvts that he played. I have no idea why Leta would have expected him to not go them. It's not even like Violet tried to hide the tech.
Because, terrain wise, Match Point is TERRIBLE for carriers --atleast compard to arbs. There's relatively few cliffs to weave around and lots of open space, but the ability to fly over an expansion and recall is really easy given all the thin passage walls.
But that's what happens when you get a huge economic advantage while T is turtling.
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On December 27 2009 16:02 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 16:00 InDaHouse wrote:On December 27 2009 15:57 tedster wrote: Leta was so passive for the first 12 minutes of that game despite killing tons of goons. He deserved that loss for sure. Leta was expecting standard arbiter play from violet, so his build was tweaked for that. You see his scan just after carriers first attacked. The only conclusion I can see is that he failed to detect Violets carrier production in time. Violet hasn't used arbiters in the last 4 or so pvts that he played. I have no idea why Leta would have expected him to not go them. It's not even like Violet tried to hide the tech. I think Leta lost an ACE quite recently on this map (don't remember against which P, think it was Free) and his build and strategy to take the third was very different this time.
So I instantly thought that Leta learned his lesson this time and adjusted his play for this map against P and arbiterplay. Indeed it is strange that he didn't expect carriers from Violet as you say since recent games reveals violets strategies.
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YEAH VIOLET!! Too bad Flash doesn't get to win two games, but KT doesn't need him for every single ace match anymore! Hurray!
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On December 27 2009 16:02 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too. I'd make a crack about you being bitter towards KT after Firefist allkilled CJ, but frankly CJ is the only team that has KT's number so I'll retort with SHUT UP YOU BIG MEANIE >:[[[[
Khan can take KTF too :D (Ninja edit: This is a joke btw lol)
Although KTF is just beasting right now. So many solid players. They remind me of Khan... when Khan was GOOD T_T *sob*
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On December 27 2009 16:15 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 16:02 TwoToneTerran wrote:On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too. I'd make a crack about you being bitter towards KT after Firefist allkilled CJ, but frankly CJ is the only team that has KT's number so I'll retort with SHUT UP YOU BIG MEANIE >:[[[[ Khan can take KTF too :D Although KTF is just beasting right now. So many solid players. They remind me of Khan... when Khan was GOOD T_T *sob*
wait what KT beat Khan I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU SPEAK OF
They've only lost to CJ (twice qq) and Wemade. >:[
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On December 27 2009 16:10 InDaHouse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 16:02 Nevuk wrote:On December 27 2009 16:00 InDaHouse wrote:On December 27 2009 15:57 tedster wrote: Leta was so passive for the first 12 minutes of that game despite killing tons of goons. He deserved that loss for sure. Leta was expecting standard arbiter play from violet, so his build was tweaked for that. You see his scan just after carriers first attacked. The only conclusion I can see is that he failed to detect Violets carrier production in time. Violet hasn't used arbiters in the last 4 or so pvts that he played. I have no idea why Leta would have expected him to not go them. It's not even like Violet tried to hide the tech. I think Leta lost an ACE quite recently on this map (don't remember against which P, think it was Free) and his build and strategy to take the third was very different this time. So I instantly thought that Leta learned his lesson this time and adjusted his play for this map against P and arbiterplay. Indeed it is strange that he didn't expect carriers from Violet as you say since recent games reveals violets strategies. hell either way, aint it customary as a terran to scan, at least once, to see what your opponents tech is? Any mu really...kind of unforgivable mistake, regardless of how standard one tech deviation is, you should never just assume...
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On December 27 2009 16:19 yhnmk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 16:10 InDaHouse wrote:On December 27 2009 16:02 Nevuk wrote:On December 27 2009 16:00 InDaHouse wrote:On December 27 2009 15:57 tedster wrote: Leta was so passive for the first 12 minutes of that game despite killing tons of goons. He deserved that loss for sure. Leta was expecting standard arbiter play from violet, so his build was tweaked for that. You see his scan just after carriers first attacked. The only conclusion I can see is that he failed to detect Violets carrier production in time. Violet hasn't used arbiters in the last 4 or so pvts that he played. I have no idea why Leta would have expected him to not go them. It's not even like Violet tried to hide the tech. I think Leta lost an ACE quite recently on this map (don't remember against which P, think it was Free) and his build and strategy to take the third was very different this time. So I instantly thought that Leta learned his lesson this time and adjusted his play for this map against P and arbiterplay. Indeed it is strange that he didn't expect carriers from Violet as you say since recent games reveals violets strategies. hell either way, aint it customary as a terran to scan, at least once, to see what your opponents tech is? Any mu really...kind of unforgivable mistake, regardless of how standard one tech deviation is, you should never just assume...
He should have know just based on troop count. That was a mess of star gates pumping, and Violet's army was obviously skimpy.
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I was really hoping that Leta would pull it off ... : ( .
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On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too. LoL It doesn't top the "hurling imba shit at each other" quote though (I know that was yours too), that one was just too good.
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There is no such thing as "Carriers micro".
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WTF KT ace =/= Flash? lol hite, that's a low blow.
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On December 27 2009 16:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 16:15 StorkHwaiting wrote:On December 27 2009 16:02 TwoToneTerran wrote:On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too. I'd make a crack about you being bitter towards KT after Firefist allkilled CJ, but frankly CJ is the only team that has KT's number so I'll retort with SHUT UP YOU BIG MEANIE >:[[[[ Khan can take KTF too :D Although KTF is just beasting right now. So many solid players. They remind me of Khan... when Khan was GOOD T_T *sob* wait what KT beat Khan I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU SPEAK OF They've only lost to CJ (twice qq) and Wemade. >:[ Kt hasn't played khan yet in round 2.
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Yes but they won in round 1, their most recent and presumably relevant match.
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On December 27 2009 17:46 TwoToneTerran wrote: Yes but they won in round 1, their most recent and presumably relevant match. but he wrote khan can take kt. So we just have to wait till khan v kt and c if khan can take kt.
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HoGiL vs (T)Flash Total rape
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I remember when PvT was Violet's weakest matchup and was close to Bisu in PvP/PvZ.
Now his PvZ fell behind a lot and his PvP is getting random losses too.
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On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too. LOOOL awesome haha :D
Well Leta losing wasn't something surprising - he had to prepare for TvZ today and probably trained TvT for ace match with Flash as well (or who knows, maybe pros stopped practicing TvT vs Flash since there's no way anyone will defeat them anymore loloool). And then comes TvP, woooow not only Leta practiced for 2 MUs but also he has to play only one he didn't prepare for!
I'm wondering if KT didn't send Flash to show that they don't have to depend on him in ace matches, to give Violet a chance, or maybe because it is Match Point and maybe Flash seems to have problems with that map?
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Wondering how they sent Violet instead of FlaSh for ace match O_O
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On December 27 2009 19:25 SuperArc wrote: I remember when PvT was Violet's weakest matchup and was close to Bisu in PvP/PvZ.
Now his PvZ fell behind a lot and his PvP is getting random losses too. I still remember when violet had the second worst elo. lmao.
On December 27 2009 19:44 arew wrote: Wondering how they sent Violet instead of FlaSh for ace match O_O Match point, protoss favored map. Hite has no good protoss to send.
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So much carrier hate from terran users xD
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damn it i with flash was on ace
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I don't wish Flash was ace here, let the guy rest. He's got 2 BO5's coming up in the next 2 weeks, let's not overwork Flash and maybe just maybe he'll win both. =)
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KT had the advantage with the ace match selection. Hite normally would have a choice between either a zerg or a terran, but with yellow playing poorly it's obvious that Leta is coming out. They probably figured they send Flash, but sent Violet as a mind game.
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On December 27 2009 15:56 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2009 15:55 FireGuyX wrote: Now all Violet needs to do is improve his PvP. its a lot harder when the other guy can make stupid units too.
Lol maybe you should just play P and make stupid units => win every game right?
Violet <3
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On December 27 2009 23:40 gemini24 wrote: KT had the advantage with the ace match selection. Hite normally would have a choice between either a zerg or a terran, but with yellow playing poorly it's obvious that Leta is coming out. They probably figured they send Flash, but sent Violet as a mind game.
No, they new hite was sending leta, so they sent violet out to counter because letas tvp is his weakpoint and violet is abusive as hell pvt, and especially on some of these new maps. And so it came to pass. Not like they could sen yarnc with his terrible zvp anyways.
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Yeah, Yarnc would get fucking crushed by Violet with his abysmal ZvP, the map being Match Point, him slumping, and Violet doing fairly well himself.
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On December 28 2009 10:01 TwoToneTerran wrote: Yeah, Yarnc would get fucking crushed by Violet with his abysmal ZvP, the map being Match Point, him slumping, and Violet doing fairly well himself.
Hogil would have been a good choice his ZvP is good .
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