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3-0 for STX! Don't mind seeing Really get a chance to play though =)
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Baa?21243 Posts
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I really wanna see Calm vs Really but I doubt that's gonna happen the way the matchups are staggered. Quite frankly, I don't see how estro has a chance. Kal is kal, by.hero has ridiculous bisu-killer zvp, and clam is clam. Sure, really is guaranteed against hwasin but I doubt it'll get that far.
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Not a good line-up for Estro.
If one of the first three can pull off a win, this goes to ace because Really is on fire atm.
In ace a Really v Calm or Kal v Really or maybe even Upmagic would be awesome.
Sangho Flying or Hyvaa... one of you step up!
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I'm blind.
-_______________- man I am too tired today.
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On December 12 2009 13:18 Wala.Revolution wrote:
This is on OGN, not MBC
MBC has iesf WCIII on.
It's 4 hours after Iesf and the calendar says MBC?
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STX better not let it go to game four. Really is just too good these days.
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Gosl has only 1 remaining 100% match up. You gonna wreck this too man?
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estro needs to win at least one round and they'll take it to ace.cuz seiya is too strong nowadays.but their lineup is very weak and i honestly don't see any hope for them.
i say 3-0 soul but i really wanna see really vs hwasin.
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Canada5565 Posts
I really don't see STX losing this, all their players are doing quite well
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tough game, but if Flying takes his game, we got this 3-2. Really is on bonjwa mode.
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On December 12 2009 13:28 lone_hydra wrote:
Gosl has only 1 remaining 100% match up. You gonna wreck this too man?
he is already 0% vs T, 66% vs Z and 50% vs P, what are you talking about lol
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United States11637 Posts
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I think STX will win but am rooting for estro
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This could end in many ways, I predict 2-3 Calm winning two games. And only because he is in my fantasyteam.
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GosI in purple at 9
Kal in orange at 3
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Both players with mirror builds so far... Kal a little paranoid checking for proxies
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Russian Federation150 Posts
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Kal getting reavers... GosI Cancells the observatory at the last minute and decides to expand instead?
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First reaver out for Kal... on the way to Gosi's main
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Things looking a bit grim for Flying, Kal killed his nat nexus and contained him. He broke out with a really nice reaver push and abuse of the wall, but he's still behind. \\
The http://mbc.ferron.pe/ link works for me. :
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Oh god this looks bad... Kal kills the nexus and sets up a contain
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Very nice control from GosI, pushes Kal out of his nat with a reaver and some goons
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Now Gosi is set up at Kal's natural... though Kal seems better able to defend
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Flying kills both of Kal's reavers and succeeds in trading forces basically.
edit : My stream is like 3 minutes ahead of everyone else.
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Kal takes his third, Flying starts making dark templar.
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Dt's out for Gosi, Kal moving around the map with his large goon force... establishing good map control
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Gosi comeso out ahead of their battle.
Gosi gets templar archives up slightly faster
But kal is gonna get upgrade advantage
Gosi attempts DT drop but gets spotted and loses shuttle with no major damage done.
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Kal gets up third before Gosi,
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Dt gets 5 probes before dying off...
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Kal was sloppy there, cost him ~5 probes
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Gosi is moving out against Kal
Kal has 1+ and gosi doesnt
Gosi attempts Storm drop (didnt see how much it got)
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Gosi flying's army composition is strange.
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Oh niceee... Gosi's storm drops get tons of probes
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7 kill storm by GosI, real nice microing.
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flying's preemptive storms are helped by Kal running his forces into... then out of them ... then into again.
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Kal taking a 4th at 12, while denying Gosi's fourth at 6...
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Both taking their fourth
Gosi sends 4 zealots to Kals fourth while kals main army is distracted.
Doesnt get the nexus down
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Large fight, Kal comes out ahead.
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HUGE BATTLE
GOSI GETS UP SO MANY GOOD STORMS
But Kal has more Archons and better upgrades
Kal taking down Gosi's fourth
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Massive battle!!!! Kal comes out on top, his reavers really pack a punch
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On December 12 2009 18:52 Iplaythings wrote:
HUGE BATTLE
GOSI GETS UP SO MANY GOOD STORMS
But Kal has more Archons and better upgrades
Kal taking down Gosi's fourth
no, same upgrades
the reavers did the damage
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Kal denying Gosi his fourth
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Kal's reaver deny the expo at 5... damn those guy are just so useful
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On December 12 2009 18:53 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 18:52 Iplaythings wrote:
HUGE BATTLE
GOSI GETS UP SO MANY GOOD STORMS
But Kal has more Archons and better upgrades
Kal taking down Gosi's fourth no, same upgrades the reavers did the damage
Kal had +2 attack
Gosi had 1-1 in armor and attack
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Another big battle
But Kal has too much
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Kal wins the battle then reinforces, reavers raping
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Gosi GG's after his army died
Damned Gosi, you're on my FPL 
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GG from GosI... Kal wins that pretty decisively
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Canada5565 Posts
Kal had such good micro that game, saving that reaver from the storm at the end, so good.
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So far so good, Flying earns my anti team +2 fantasy points. Now for  by.hero winning.
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once again Kal has fuck my FPL over
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Kal played so badly, wtf.
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Baa?21243 Posts
So far so good, so far so good...
Now hero + Calm double win for the 3-0! ^_^
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Yeah, Kal fucked up quite a bit. Flying was really behind from the early game a did a nice job trying to get back in, but losing the nexus like that was just too large a disadvantage- from the replay, after trading armies Kal had like 87 supply to 70 supply.
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I didn't see all of what Gosi had to defend with, but could he have held that off instead of saccing his nat?
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On December 12 2009 19:06 meeple wrote:
I didn't see all of what Gosi had to defend with, but could he have held that off instead of saccing his nat?
nope he couldnt
kal could have finished this game way earlier than he did, not really good play by him, by win is a win:D
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game 1 recommended, what do u think?
imho it was very nice^^
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game is on match point, not moon glaive apparently
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On December 12 2009 19:09 Black Gun wrote:
game 1 recommended, what do u think?
imho it was very nice^^
Meh. It did have a few large battles, but nothing to really stand out.
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On December 12 2009 19:09 Black Gun wrote:
game 1 recommended, what do u think?
imho it was very nice^^
I think I will recommend it... it had some really nice huge battles
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This isn't on Moon Glaive :o
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On December 12 2009 19:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
This isn't on Moon Glaive :o
Woop, fixed
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Spire out for hero... fairly normal standard play so far
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Ahh I love reavers, at least as long as they're used effectively
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I don't think those scourge scouted the reaver tech did they?
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did i see right.... sangho just send 10 zealots on move into suicide mission ;;;
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oh spawning pool sniped. buggy reaver saves about 20 drones
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AHHHGGGHHH THEY GOT THE POOL!!
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fan goes wild as shuttle dies to scourge
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Nice storm drop again from Sangho, but he loses the shuttle and ht
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storm drop kills a bunch of nat drones, Hero chases down and kills shuttle
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OMG beautiful storms catch almost all the drones as they escape...
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hero moving to take down Sangho's third... but its heavily cannoned
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holy shit sick sick attack. triple storm kills all the drones and then zlots snipe the spire. Hero going for hydra break at the 5hird base, getting mutas raped by sairs
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CA10828 Posts
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL NEXUS SNIPE
what a hero hydra
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Dragoons are retarded - a case study
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Hero barely barely barely kills off the third nexus.
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OMFG HE GOT THE NEX? LOLLLL
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AH THE HYDRA KILLS THE NEXUS AS IT DIES, SOOO CLUTCH FROM HERO
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Sangho super aggressive!
..... but the Nexus gets sniped by the last hydra AAAGH!
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HAHAHAH DAMNNNN GETS THE NEXUS!!! That dying breath of the last hydra took it down... awesome
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Canada5565 Posts
that was so intense, this game is awesome!
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hero sacrifiing his fourth to take down Sangho's third again
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soo many reavers.... Hero going to lose 4th base, tries to break the 4th with mass hydras again, Sangho thorwing up about 6 buildings to block, loses both reavers, nexus IS NOT BEING SNIPED,
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This game is what pvz is all about.
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Arg, hero doesnt' focus down the nexus... loses all his army
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Half of Sanghos units are HTs o.O
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dl2agon
United States473 Posts
On December 12 2009 19:26 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Half of Sanghos units are HTs o.O
Because ALL of hero's units are hydras
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hero has shine syndrome, shshshshshsh
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holy fuck that is so many high templar
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Sangho pushing into the nat... hero doesn't look like he has enough
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Sangho with like 20 templar, ALL THE HYDRAS DIE BEFORE HE FIGHTS THE ARMY
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hero gg's
that is the best game I have ever seen sangho play and damn it was impressive
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GG. Surprisingly well played by SangHo.
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gg from hero... thats tough Sangho did a great job harassing
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Oh man, Sangho is so badass.
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And hero ggs after losing hydras...
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WHOOAOAAAAAAA
SICKEST PvZ play by sangho
absolutely ridiculous
WOW umbelievable
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No templar snipes no win with hidras .....
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so i traded pure for sangho in my anti team and this happens lmao
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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omg that game was so delicious!
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On December 12 2009 19:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so i traded pure for sangho in my anti team and this happens lmao
this.
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My heart was racing the entire match
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this is sangho haha
when ur good ur just too damn good
GG
that was such a fine game, perfect if you didn't lose that 3rd
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What unit did you guys want hero to be making? His spire was dead so maybe you wanted him to remake it sooner? I don't think lings would have been amazing either.
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poorly played by hero no lurks or lings at all sangho was forcing hero to go hydra only so he could go 100 hts and storm everything that moves
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ALL but 2 Hydras killed by storms => gg
Incredibly entertaining game, here´s to Sangho 
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On December 12 2009 19:28 SkytoM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so i traded pure for sangho in my anti team and this happens lmao this.
why would you trade in a player that plays 2 this week for a player that plays none?
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sangho is my hero.
anybody? anybody?
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So I traded for hero in my main and Flying in my anti team. After their scores neutralize each other, what remains is the trade tax.
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I dunno what hero could've done in the mid/late game there... those storm drop and the early aggression really hurt his econ
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but then it was on a pvz imba map
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imagine the damage sangho would've done in the main if he unloaded his drop ship before it died
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that DT+reaver duo attack was so nice I knew sangho would g it done!!!!
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On December 12 2009 19:29 ThePhan2m wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:28 SkytoM wrote:On December 12 2009 19:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so i traded pure for sangho in my anti team and this happens lmao this. why would you trade in a player that plays 2 this week for a player that plays none?
he expected him to lose probably, so he would gain 2 pts
nice harass by sangho but hero forgot how to snipe HTs it seems
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On December 12 2009 19:29 ThePhan2m wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:28 SkytoM wrote:On December 12 2009 19:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so i traded pure for sangho in my anti team and this happens lmao this. why would you trade in a player that plays 2 this week for a player that plays none?
\Pure is playing movie this week :x
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On December 12 2009 19:31 johnnyspazz wrote:
imagine the damage sangho would've done in the main if he unloaded his drop ship before it died
this would have required like so much APM
I think they were playing is first person view
He was attacking the expo at 11 oclock and trying to send a shuttle filled with HT's to the main
To bad it died =/
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On December 12 2009 19:29 Crunchums wrote:
What unit did you guys want hero to be making?
Lurkers.
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Wow sick game :O Specially considering it was Sangho vs Hero, i thought it would be over in less than 15 mins xd
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estro now has a good chance of taking this to ace if really performs well against hwasin.
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On December 12 2009 19:29 ThePhan2m wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:28 SkytoM wrote:On December 12 2009 19:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so i traded pure for sangho in my anti team and this happens lmao this. why would you trade in a player that plays 2 this week for a player that plays none?
because people that lose give me points? and sang-ho is just bad. wtf hero
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On December 12 2009 19:33 SkytoM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:29 ThePhan2m wrote:On December 12 2009 19:28 SkytoM wrote:On December 12 2009 19:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so i traded pure for sangho in my anti team and this happens lmao this. why would you trade in a player that plays 2 this week for a player that plays none? because people that lose give me points? and sang-ho is just bad. wtf hero
this is a strategy that im not willing to risk, but ok. he's bad, but not rock bad
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On December 12 2009 19:32 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:29 Crunchums wrote:
What unit did you guys want hero to be making? Lurkers.
Sangho's army wasn't that zealot heavy and he has no spire so it's not like he's going to be sniping anything. Also after he lost top left he was only on 2 gas.
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hes not bad, he's been in a slump
I still remember that pvp him and best, he played so smart best got raped in half. that was when ppl still said best is good pvp
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On December 12 2009 19:38 Crunchums wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:32 EvilTeletubby wrote:On December 12 2009 19:29 Crunchums wrote:
What unit did you guys want hero to be making? Lurkers. Sangho's army wasn't that zealot heavy and he has no spire so it's not like he's going to be sniping anything. Also after he lost top left he was only on 2 gas.
his first initial army was only sairs mass zealots and 5-6 hts hydra lurker totaly counter p army
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Both doing some sort of 9 poolish build... didn't quite catch the timings but Calm got fast gas I think
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12pool expand vs an earlier pool that I didn't see
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Russian Federation150 Posts
Now, hyvaa, Hwasin and eStro winning the ace would save both my LB and FPL 
Ed: typo
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hyvaa taking his nat... Calm getting a lair
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2nd hatch in base for calm, hyvaa gonna need spores
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I feel like Calm overreacted with that inbase hatch, didnt he?
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There's the evo chamber for spores
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that's clever. using overlords to block the larva at the lair (calm)
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Calm gonna try to win it with lings
hyvaa sees it
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hyvaa counterattacks, I do not like that decision very much but it looks like he got away with it without losing too many drones
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Calm expanding to his nat
great ZvZ
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Calm now taking his nat... hyvaa's had his up for so long now Calm has to play a bit of catch up
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hyvaa moving out with lings, this time I like that decision - he has mutas to stop calm's lings now
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oooh lots of lings from hyvaa... looks like he's waiting until the mutas move away though
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calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
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Wow... that hatch is gonna die soon... insanely low hp left on it
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hyvaa with a sigh... Calm dominating here
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hyvaa GG's, dangit man you could have won this game
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I like it in LR when you get completly different reads...
SkelA : calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
Meeple : Calm has to play a bit of catch up
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Superb micro by Calm in the muta battle. GG from Hyvaa.
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On December 12 2009 19:53 Beamo wrote:
I like it in LR when you get completly different reads...
SkelA : calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
Meeple : Calm has to play a bit of catch up
Yeah, I had a hard time getting a feel for that game. Calm forced hyvaa to burn a lot of drones on defensive structures -- I think 5 in total -- I guess that combined with the fact that Hyvaa was unable to do any damage with his lings was enough to push Calm ahead.
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On December 12 2009 19:53 Beamo wrote:
I like it in LR when you get completly different reads...
SkelA : calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
Meeple : Calm has to play a bit of catch up
They were both right if they said what they said at appropriate times.
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hyvaa was way too indecisive that game and it cost him huuuuuge
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Yeah CALM!
hyvaa came close to destroying that hatch though, that was a bit unsettling :S
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On December 12 2009 19:53 Beamo wrote:
I like it in LR when you get completly different reads...
SkelA : calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
Meeple : Calm has to play a bit of catch up
mmm I could've been thinking about the beginning, hyvaa had his expansion wayy ahead of Calm... but he wasted resources on tons of lings, while Calm just massed a huge number of mutas
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On December 12 2009 19:53 Beamo wrote:
I like it in LR when you get completly different reads...
SkelA : calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
Meeple : Calm has to play a bit of catch up
Ofc calm was way ahead calm had much faster spire started 2nd gas much more early hyvaa waisted drones for like 3-4 spores 2 sunks and didnt use his fast expo for mining gas for like forever
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CA10828 Posts
hyvaa would have won if he had gone for a drone raid with his mutas when his lings were attacking calm's nat.
not sure why he didn't attack
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Canada5565 Posts
that overlord placement to spot the zerglings, just wow
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On December 12 2009 19:54 Crunchums wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:53 Beamo wrote:
I like it in LR when you get completly different reads...
SkelA : calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
Meeple : Calm has to play a bit of catch up They were both right if they said what they said at appropriate times.
Was a 1 minute difference
But true, things can swing fast in ZvZ ^^
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On December 12 2009 19:53 Beamo wrote:
I like it in LR when you get completly different reads...
SkelA : calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
Meeple : Calm has to play a bit of catch up
And I thought Calm was completely screwed before he won that muta battle. That hatch could have been taken down by a slight breeze, and if hyvaa would have got it Calm would have only had a very narrow timing window in which he could possibly win before hyvaa's economy made it impossible.
Edit: Then again, I didn't see the beginning of the game. 
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Lol a one minute difference is like early game vs midgame in zvz
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now really needs to win and then really vs calm ace and I'll be happy
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
lol yet another ZvZ that Hyvaa could have won.
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Hyvaa should have had the hatch if he had focused on it. Calm got a little lucky there. Can someone explain what Calm did in the final muta battle. Did he split his mutas to mess up the scourge as well as preventing hyvaa's mutas splash?
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Got a question when game started when they showed calm it said ACE do they now determine aces even before it comes down to an ace match?
edit: same is for really so if it comes to ace will be calm vs really?
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On December 12 2009 19:55 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 19:53 Beamo wrote:
I like it in LR when you get completly different reads...
SkelA : calm is way ahead hyvaa had only bo advantage at start
Meeple : Calm has to play a bit of catch up mmm I could've been thinking about the beginning, hyvaa had his expansion wayy ahead of Calm... but he wasted resources on tons of lings, while Calm just massed a huge number of mutas
Making lings is not a waste of resources, but hyvaa used them poorly:
On December 12 2009 19:55 LosingID8 wrote:
hyvaa would have won if he had gone for a drone raid with his mutas when his lings were attacking calm's nat.
not sure why he didn't attack
This.
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my fantasy is screwed...damn i'll have a hard time even trying to get into top 1000 -.-
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TvT on outsider!? Oh man TvT is so much better on Outsider <3
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i got really on my antiteam pls lose already im -11 because of him ...
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On December 12 2009 20:00 gemini24 wrote:
Hyvaa should have had the hatch if he had focused on it. Calm got a little lucky there. Can someone explain what Calm did in the final muta battle. Did he split his mutas to mess up the scourge as well as preventing hyvaa's mutas splash?
he had more than 1 hotkey, he was controlling one and just put the others on attack move
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Really left in blue
Hwasin bottom in brown
Outsider SE
gogogo really!
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i have really on my main team.so plz win
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Game starting: Really at 9, Hwasin at 5.
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On December 12 2009 20:00 gemini24 wrote:
Hyvaa should have had the hatch if he had focused on it. Calm got a little lucky there. Can someone explain what Calm did in the final muta battle. Did he split his mutas to mess up the scourge as well as preventing hyvaa's mutas splash?
What he did was have a fuckton more mutas than hyvaa did and hyvaa only had one spore.
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On December 12 2009 20:05 SkelA wrote:
i got really on my antiteam pls lose already im -11 because of him ...
wtf
is flash and sea on ur anti too?
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Shit, Really is on a 8 game winning streak against protoss. What's his secret?
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really scouts the wrong main so he sends his SCV to jump the minerals walls in order to get a scout in, pretty cool play
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Really's doin' something...
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Hwasin will fuck me up like he always does, expect this to go into ace~
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hwasin's mech. hmmm
oh wait, it's tvt.
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On December 12 2009 20:07 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 20:05 SkelA wrote:
i got really on my antiteam pls lose already im -11 because of him ... wtf is flash and sea on ur anti too?
noo! i had sea on last FPL anitteam and Flash is now on my team :D
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Hwasin trying 2 hide his SCV... failed though...
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mmm, you can fit units there ?
great place for ghost.
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Hwasin gonna jump a vulture into Really's main through his top mineral wall
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lol poor tank trapped outside its own base by mines
what a silly battle
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4 vultures dropped in hwasin's main
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GOOOO really lose !!!! :D
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Hwasin's got him by the balls atm...
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Really sacs a bunch of SCVs to hold off Hwasin's attack but doesn't even kill it, he is unhappy as shown by the camera
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Some screwups by Really, not looking too good for him.
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really is not playing up to his standards atm
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Really sacrificing more scvs to hold off the drop...
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wtf hwasin are you fricking RETARDED why didnt drop on the cliff and watch how really gg
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ugh hwasin is running away with this
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Really has a 3rd up though and Hwasin's drops are being repelled with ease. Just now Hwasin is starting to get his 3rd (EDIT: And the double gas it seems)
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Hwasin doing alot to lose this... two drops essentially wasted. Not to say he isn't ahead... but he's just not using his units as efficiently as he should be
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United States33388 Posts
drop in plain sight..... what the hell
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wut is hwasin doin
meanwhile really drops 2 vults into hwasins main, get one scv kill
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Wow! Really defends so well that he´s catching up now.
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Really pulls back a little bit by defending a drop really well but he's still way behind in dropship count and Hwasin is punishing him for it
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Really clawing his way back into this but I still think he's significantly behind
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Really's nat is broken by 7 tanks, he looks to be in pretty bad shape
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God man... Scv's are not a fighting unit
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United States33388 Posts
despite all the advantage hwasin has, he is a master of giving away games that he has in the bag
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On December 12 2009 20:21 Waxangel wrote:
despite all the advantage hwasin has, he is a master of giving away games that he has in the bag
yeah he had/has so much potential to become great =/
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Looks like they are even on expos, Really just has smaller and badly positioned army.
Hwasin taking out expos, and Really just setting more expansions.
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Hwasin going for the jugular, really gonna gg any second
really gg's
fuck
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gg from Really... gogo STX!!!
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In the end Really just got rolled.
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Hwasin delivers for once.
FUCK YEAH
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On December 12 2009 20:21 Waxangel wrote:
despite all the advantage hwasin has, he is a master of giving away games that he has in the bag
amen he is like the terran version of hyuk
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Russian Federation150 Posts
Well, at least I've got my FPL right today.
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3/3 liquidbet today, yay!
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On December 12 2009 20:21 meeple wrote:
God man... Scv's are not a fighting unit
Are you kidding me? SCVs are fighting machines!
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On December 12 2009 20:25 SkelA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 20:21 Waxangel wrote:
despite all the advantage hwasin has, he is a master of giving away games that he has in the bag amen he is like the terran version of hyuk
This is really an insult to Hwasin.
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Upmagic for Hwasin trade actually got me points woah.
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Really lost?
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Pure ownage there, fast hands lost 
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On December 12 2009 22:46 orcsmash wrote:Sangho won? + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_98TIm5TZU8&NR=1
My reaction as well.
I'm very sad at Really's loss though )):
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
Hwasin finally won something and it had to be Really ;<
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
On December 12 2009 22:46 orcsmash wrote:Sangho won? + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_98TIm5TZU8&NR=1
same here =/
And Really lost too, fuck.
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Grrr. Hwasin why do you have to not suck on this night.
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My Hwasin pick didn't totally suck, most excellent.
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Talk about prediction fail...
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funny thing is that his predictions actually made a lot of sense :S
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flying, keep trying
sangho, fantastic job, great game
hyvaa, should NOT have lost
really, you're getting studied, change up dude
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On December 13 2009 03:21 LunarDestiny wrote:Talk about prediction fail...
Haha, no kidding.
I guess it was opposite day or something -.-
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On December 13 2009 03:23 zazen wrote:
funny thing is that his predictions actually made a lot of sense :S
Gosi over Kal? No.
Hero over SangHo? Eh, I guess.
Hyvaa over Calm? lol
Really over Hwasin? Eh, yea.
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