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Speaking as a huge Flash fanboy, I also think people are a little too confident in Flash's TvP right now.
He has NOT had a good record against non-scrub Protoss players lately, and his recent game against DaezanG didn't exactly instill confidence in the shape of his current TvP either.
Maybe he'll blow us all away with this 'new method' of TvP we've been hearing about, and I'd be ecstatic if he did, but realistically I think Flash has about a 60% chance of taking Best, and 50% of taking Bisu right now. He's not some huge favorite against either of them. It's entirely possible that it goes to ace even if Flash loses his game, if Lux and Violet can hold onto theirs.
Still, crossing my fingers that he pulls some revolutionary build/method that redefines TvP...again...and leaves us all breathless.
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On November 09 2009 06:20 Hinanawi wrote:
Speaking as a huge Flash fanboy, I also think people are a little too confident in Flash's TvP right now.
He has NOT had a good record against non-scrub Protoss players lately, and his recent game against DaezanG didn't exactly instill confidence in the shape of his current TvP either.
Did anyone actually watch Flash vs Bisu?
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On November 09 2009 06:25 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 06:20 Hinanawi wrote:
Speaking as a huge Flash fanboy, I also think people are a little too confident in Flash's TvP right now.
He has NOT had a good record against non-scrub Protoss players lately, and his recent game against DaezanG didn't exactly instill confidence in the shape of his current TvP either. Did anyone actually watch Flash vs Bisu?
I did. They looked evenly matched to me. Bisu won on the P favored maps, Flash on the T favored map. A very close series.
Hence why I said Flash is about a 50-50 against Bisu...
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On November 09 2009 06:28 Hinanawi wrote:
Hence why I said Flash is about a 50-50 against Bisu...
I'd say that 50-50 against Bisu is as good as it gets, even for Flash and Jaedong. But it should be slightly higher due to the T favored map...
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But is Moon Glaive even imba TvP? I thought the reason it was a T heaven was because of how hard PvZ and ZvT are on it, that Zergs don't want to risk facing a Terran and Protoss don't want to risk facing a Zerg.
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On November 09 2009 06:37 Hinanawi wrote:
But is Moon Glaive even imba TvP? I thought the reason it was a T heaven was because of how hard PvZ and ZvT are on it, that Zergs don't want to risk facing a Terran and Protoss don't want to risk facing a Zerg.
Good point. It's not necessarily extremely imba, though it does seem T friendly due the ramps and relatively small area that T has to cover to defend four bases. But with so few games, it's hard to tell.
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when did KT get those uniforms? They look very nice.
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On November 09 2009 06:49 Elite00fm wrote:
when did KT get those uniforms? They look very nice.
I thought it was at the start of the new season. I could be wrong.
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KT is going to get STEAMROFLSTOMPED
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this is going to be close 3-2 to KT hope for ace Bisu vs flash.
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Why are we even discussing ace match possibilities? We all know SKT's gonna 3-0 this shit up.
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Flash is S class against either race. And to those who question Flashs TvP, lets not forget how he won the 2008 Bacchuus OSL beating Bisu than Stork.
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On November 09 2009 07:00 FireGuyX wrote:
Flash is S class against either race. And to those who question Flashs TvP, lets not forget how he won the 2008 Bacchuus OSL beating Bisu than Stork.
And Best is S class against Flash. Look at that 100% win rate against the alleged TvP monster. Can't even defeat a "mediocre" PvTer.
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On November 09 2009 07:00 FireGuyX wrote:
Flash is S class against either race. And to those who question Flashs TvP, lets not forget how he won the 2008 Bacchuus OSL beating Bisu than Stork.
You Flash fans crack me up.
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On November 09 2009 06:20 Hinanawi wrote:
Speaking as a huge Flash fanboy, I also think people are a little too confident in Flash's TvP right now.
He has NOT had a good record against non-scrub Protoss players lately, and his recent game against DaezanG didn't exactly instill confidence in the shape of his current TvP either.
I don't think anyone is touting Flash as a favorite against Bisu. They are really closely matched, as their series together proved, and there's just no knowing what will happen if they play.
Against Best I think he's the favorite though --- not a heavy favorite but a favorite nonetheless.
Anyway, this match is going to answer a lot of questions.
On November 09 2009 07:03 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 07:00 FireGuyX wrote:
Flash is S class against either race. And to those who question Flashs TvP, lets not forget how he won the 2008 Bacchuus OSL beating Bisu than Stork. You Flash fans crack me up.
Could you not do that really annoying thing where you take one person's ridiculous comment and act like it's representative of the wider group? Thank you.
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On November 09 2009 07:03 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 07:00 FireGuyX wrote:
Flash is S class against either race. And to those who question Flashs TvP, lets not forget how he won the 2008 Bacchuus OSL beating Bisu than Stork. You Flash fans crack me up.
On the other hand, there are people in this thread citing Flash his losses against P from 6 months ago as reasons why Flash will lose.
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On November 09 2009 07:03 Djabanete wrote:
Could you not do that really annoying thing where you take one person's ridiculous comment and act like it's representative of the wider group? Thank you.
You serious people crack me up.
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On November 09 2009 07:07 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 07:03 Djabanete wrote:
Could you not do that really annoying thing where you take one person's ridiculous comment and act like it's representative of the wider group? Thank you.
You serious people crack me up.
You crack me up...Not really.
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Its going to be 3-0, you can stop predicting now!
And wow @ people who actually think that Flash will be surprised by 2 base arbs lose to Best.
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