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On November 09 2009 20:09 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 20:06 alffla wrote:On November 09 2009 20:05 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On November 09 2009 20:04 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:On November 09 2009 20:03 alffla wrote:On November 09 2009 20:01 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Oh yea KTC - that's what you get for cheesing twice in a row. you are the worst SKT1 fan i have ever seen What, because I prefer straight up, skillbased games? I think it's because there's no such team called KTC. and when did they cheese twice in a row??? wtf Call me old and unadventurous but since when did a lonely vessel EMPing the protoss natural/arbiter become macro-oriented play? please stop trolling, you can't be that stupid
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HEY SKT FANS
YOUR BEST PLAYER LSOT TO LUXURY
LUXURY IS TRASH
don't start talking shit because bisu's loss was WAY more embarassing
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On November 09 2009 20:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 20:06 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Stop overreacting to this game lol.
Flash made a crucial mistake in the first fight, caught out of position and was forced to siege his tanks clumped together(probably best's plan..well done). Sick storms followed and crushed the timing push. Game over. This game was flat out done at that point. The rest was a formality. Flash didn't get "out macroed" he got out thought.
Best's strategy was the perfect counter once again. The early obs set it up for him. Five bases vs Three bases is getting out macroed. Flash came out ahead on that army trade. Lol..no.
That attack was supposed to win the game for Flash. But it got crushed by storm instead. P isn't supposed to stop it without losing at least 1(but T is hoping for 2) base/s. Best macroed well, but so did Flash.
There was just simply nothing Flash could do after losing the first fight. The fact that you think Flash came out ahead in that fight demonstrates your lack of knowledge of TvP timings and late game play.
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On November 09 2009 20:09 jello24 wrote:suck on what? Best having to bail out Bisu? Or Bisu losing...? Oh man Flash... just when everyone was starting to call you Ultimate Weapon again... you just hate your fans, dont you? ZOMGBBQ!!!!1!11!!111!! FLASH LOST ONE GAME I CANT BELIEVE IT HES SO FUCKING BAD LOLOLOLORLFORLFORLOLO Serously its one game lol
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On November 09 2009 20:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: HEY SKT FANS
YOUR BEST PLAYER LSOT TO LUXURY
LUXURY IS TRASH
don't start talking shit because bisu's loss was WAY more embarassing wtf bisu is not even the best player. jesus.
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BeSt got pretty lucky catching FlaSh with his pants down.
Things would have been a lot different if that didn't happen tbh.
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On November 09 2009 20:08 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 20:08 Alak wrote:On November 09 2009 20:07 Chen wrote:On November 09 2009 20:05 Gustav_Wind wrote:On November 09 2009 20:03 Chen wrote:On November 09 2009 20:02 cUrsOr wrote: You dont try to out macro that kid. Holy. Fuck.
Micro was really good to but, macro like that is just insane. Seriously, Cheese/hard timing push vs Best=Win. Macro match vs Best=suicide. wow even flash cant win one of 3 straight up macro games vs Best on his A-Game. One of Best's wins was a Carrier rush that Flash didn't scout -_- This game, though, Best just dominated straight-up. Oh, that must've been the 1 game between then that i didnt watch XD. the other one was pretty much a macro game right? or did i miss something major? The second was a failed 2-fac push by Flash, I believe. It was like a 5 Fac 1 Gas 1 Machine Shop mainly Vulture push on ToTM.
Ah, my bad then.
After spending the off-season obviously working on his TvZ, perhaps next season we'll see a reborn TvP monster? T'would be nice if Flash could make all three matchups equally solid.
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On November 09 2009 20:09 jello24 wrote:suck on what? Best having to bail out Bisu? Or Bisu losing...? Oh man Flash... just when everyone was starting to call you Ultimate Weapon again... you just hate your fans, dont you?
Yeah because a 10 game winning streak is such a bad thing. He doesn't deliver to his fans at all.
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Lets go hyuk!. prove that Z>>P imbalance is still legitimate! (even though secretely, it isn't)
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Go Hyuk! Time to end this 'rivalry' farce.
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On November 09 2009 20:11 Kentor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 20:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: HEY SKT FANS
YOUR BEST PLAYER LSOT TO LUXURY
LUXURY IS TRASH
don't start talking shit because bisu's loss was WAY more embarassing wtf bisu is not even the best player. jesus.
Bisu is definitely the star player of SKT1.
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Flash needs to work on multitasking. Completely no successful harrassment and pretty much let Best roll with a million gates and a million bases. The huge terran ball clumped together just exploded like Jangbi's storms over Nada's tanks.
Of course his first push failed pretty badly, so it was pretty over when his army was taken out. Best played smart and expanded like crazy and started macroing.
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On November 09 2009 20:11 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 20:09 jello24 wrote:suck on what? Best having to bail out Bisu? Or Bisu losing...? Oh man Flash... just when everyone was starting to call you Ultimate Weapon again... you just hate your fans, dont you? ZOMGBBQ!!!!1!11!!111!! FLASH LOST ONE GAME I CANT BELIEVE IT HES SO FUCKING BAD LOLOLOLORLFORLFORLOLO Serously its one game lol lol
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lol we switch from Best-Flash into Horang2-Frozean, and the dropoff in skill is almost tangible
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On November 09 2009 20:10 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 20:08 okum wrote: Terran players who have defeated BeSt include:
n.Die_DDONG Lomo Shine[Name] Major
Note the lack of Flash lol. by the transitive property n.Die_DDONG>>FLASH LOL + Show Spoiler +/sarcasm in case you dont get it n.Die_DDONG > Flash Lomo > Flash Shine[Name] > Flash Major > Flash
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im actually rooting for Violet right here cause i want to see some epic ace game
with SKT1 winning ofc go go go !
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On November 09 2009 20:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 20:06 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Stop overreacting to this game lol.
Flash made a crucial mistake in the first fight, caught out of position and was forced to siege his tanks clumped together(probably best's plan..well done). Sick storms followed and crushed the timing push. Game over. This game was flat out done at that point. The rest was a formality. Flash didn't get "out macroed" he got out thought.
Best's strategy was the perfect counter once again. The early obs set it up for him. Five bases vs Three bases is getting out macroed. Flash came out ahead on that army trade.
Flash came out ahead of it costwise, but regarding the flow of the entire game, that was the move that won Best the game. It's alot easier fighting the very depleted remnants of a terran push even if you need to recharge your whole army, than it is to fight a 200/200 terran ball even if you have your full army.
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In no way was flash outmacroed, he just threw his units into bests army and lost all his shit for like no trades
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lol are people seriously jumping off the flash bandwagon because he lost one game?
good. real flash fans don't want you
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On November 09 2009 20:10 Itachii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 20:09 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:On November 09 2009 20:06 alffla wrote:On November 09 2009 20:05 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On November 09 2009 20:04 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:On November 09 2009 20:03 alffla wrote:On November 09 2009 20:01 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Oh yea KTC - that's what you get for cheesing twice in a row. you are the worst SKT1 fan i have ever seen What, because I prefer straight up, skillbased games? I think it's because there's no such team called KTC. and when did they cheese twice in a row??? wtf Call me old and unadventurous but since when did a lonely vessel EMPing the protoss natural/arbiter become macro-oriented play? please stop trolling, you can't be that stupid No, in fact I recommend that strategy. I hereby insist that every terran player from now on goes straight onto vessel tech in TvP and find a hidden path to the protoss natural expansion whereas the vessel - when researched - will drop a massive shockwave of EMP.
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