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On November 09 2009 19:04 Hinanawi wrote: How, just how in the world do you manage to bring a ton of units INTO nuke range TWICE when he nukes the same spot a second time?
He didn´t realize the ghost was not in the base that was being nuked, he brought lings/hydra and ovies to kill the ghost, which was not there.
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On November 09 2009 19:04 Alak wrote:
...That was pretty cool. Nukes were superfluous, but cool. I'd agree with you but the game seemed over before the nukes and Hoejja wouldn't leave so why not add in the nukes to make it more entertaining.
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Fantasy is very good at being non standard, so i'll say i told you so in 6 weeks when all progamers (some already have) relise that to beat fantasy you just gotta play super safe so he cant pull off shit like this, give it about another month and fantasy will struggle to take wins anywhere
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Wow, that was brutal. Fantasy's nukes reminded me of Leta vs Pure on Heartbreak--- are nukes finally coming into common use as a means of long-distance expansion denial?
Sick game by Fantasy. His control was a bit sloppy but he was always about 5 steps ahead and his macro was pretty intense. Reminds me of Oov
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That's a neat trick on Match point how you can deny the zerg 4th gas by nuking from inside your main.
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On November 09 2009 19:04 Hinanawi wrote: How, just how in the world do you manage to bring a ton of units INTO nuke range TWICE when he nukes the same spot a second time? That was like 5 hydras and 7 lings? Not "ton of units" imo ...
He didn't know fantasy wallhacked, nuking him from the other side, so he sent in a couple of lings in the 2nd nuke to kill the ghost ...
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Hoejja either didn't react or overracted because he's Hoejja. Fantasy schooled him hard.
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I'm jealous of T.O.P's TV. wtf. dual screen starcraft!
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Lets see how Bisu's PvZ has changed
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On November 09 2009 19:07 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 19:04 Hinanawi wrote: How, just how in the world do you manage to bring a ton of units INTO nuke range TWICE when he nukes the same spot a second time? That was like 5 hydras and 7 lings? Not "ton of units" imo ... He didn't know fantasy wallhacked, nuking him from the other side, so he sent in a couple of lings in the 2nd nuke to kill the ghost ...
Hoejja didn't even know where the ghost was, it was that bad. Hilarious.
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On November 09 2009 19:07 Scaramanga wrote: Fantasy is very good at being non standard, so i'll say i told you so in 6 weeks when all progamers (some already have) relise that to beat fantasy you just gotta play super safe so he cant pull off shit like this, give it about another month and fantasy will struggle to take wins anywhere Fantasy can beat many progamers straight up, plus its not like Hoejja was playing anywhere near risky, he was playing standard and the wraiths would've caught anyone offguard..
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I would love to see Luxury beat the crap out of Bisu, but it's not gonna happen.
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On November 09 2009 19:07 Scaramanga wrote: Fantasy is very good at being non standard, so i'll say i told you so in 6 weeks when all progamers (some already have) relise that to beat fantasy you just gotta play super safe so he cant pull off shit like this, give it about another month and fantasy will struggle to take wins anywhere
It depends... It took time for P:s to figure out Fantasy succusful TvP style. But as Stork said in interview he had analyzed Fantasy build and come up with a counter. Fantasy is an expert to prepare for a certain game and map.
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On November 09 2009 19:07 NovaTheFeared wrote: That's a neat trick on Match point how you can deny the zerg 4th gas by nuking from inside your main.
Yeah, what about a tank and a lifted building/dropship?
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HWASIN HWAIT.... wait what?
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On November 09 2009 19:08 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 19:07 nayumi wrote:On November 09 2009 19:04 Hinanawi wrote: How, just how in the world do you manage to bring a ton of units INTO nuke range TWICE when he nukes the same spot a second time? That was like 5 hydras and 7 lings? Not "ton of units" imo ... He didn't know fantasy wallhacked, nuking him from the other side, so he sent in a couple of lings in the 2nd nuke to kill the ghost ... Hoejja didn't even know where the ghost was, it was that bad. Hilarious.
I like how people are acting as if that was a terrible mistake or something. He'd never seen it before - it happens.
I'm not a fan of either team but it's impossible to stand SKT1....
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On November 09 2009 19:06 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 19:05 Jefferson wrote: the sad thing about it this game is, Hoejja played pretty good but Fantasy was a freakin monster..
Fantasy wasnt a monster he just pulled out something reallly non standard that hoejja wasnt expecting and to be fair Hoejja played decently after that with defilers out and stop lurks was cute. Maybe Fantasy was just holding back and waiting for nuke though, he always had 1-2 control M&M+5-6 tanks at his nat, that standard anti-back-stab troop or being too safe?
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the fact that fantasy knew that the nuke reached means he must have planned to use nukes before the game even started
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