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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 01 2009 03:13 GMT
#1001
On November 01 2009 12:04 iloveHieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 06:02 Mortician wrote:
On November 01 2009 05:53 krom44 wrote:
i just can't fathom why oz wouldn't play jaedong in the ace match


They promised his parents not to use him as the team's tool of winning or sum shit liek dat


eh isn't it his JOB?

Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
November 01 2009 03:14 GMT
#1002
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

lolwut
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 01 2009 03:18 GMT
#1003
On November 01 2009 12:13 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:04 iloveHieu wrote:
On November 01 2009 06:02 Mortician wrote:
On November 01 2009 05:53 krom44 wrote:
i just can't fathom why oz wouldn't play jaedong in the ace match


They promised his parents not to use him as the team's tool of winning or sum shit liek dat


eh isn't it his JOB?

Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people.

R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
November 01 2009 03:22 GMT
#1004
On November 01 2009 12:18 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:13 nayumi wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:04 iloveHieu wrote:
On November 01 2009 06:02 Mortician wrote:
On November 01 2009 05:53 krom44 wrote:
i just can't fathom why oz wouldn't play jaedong in the ace match


They promised his parents not to use him as the team's tool of winning or sum shit liek dat


eh isn't it his JOB?

Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people.

R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on.

And T1 "failed" during r1 and still managed to win PL finals.
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 01 2009 03:28 GMT
#1005
On November 01 2009 12:18 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:13 nayumi wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:04 iloveHieu wrote:
On November 01 2009 06:02 Mortician wrote:
On November 01 2009 05:53 krom44 wrote:
i just can't fathom why oz wouldn't play jaedong in the ace match


They promised his parents not to use him as the team's tool of winning or sum shit liek dat


eh isn't it his JOB?

Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people.

R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on.

I mean Oz knew they could always abuse JD's strength to win their games. But when it comes to playoffs with Bo7, they are gonna lose badly due to lacking of depth. So throwing away R1, R2 or even this season to boost up their young players' confidence and experience is, in my opinion, a decent move. Having said that, I don't really have faith in Killer. I know he's still young and stuff but I don't see any spark of talent in him, at all. Maybe he needs more time, I don't know, but I really think that Oz should place their bet on another player.

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-01 03:40:50
November 01 2009 03:39 GMT
#1006
On November 01 2009 12:22 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:18 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:13 nayumi wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:04 iloveHieu wrote:
On November 01 2009 06:02 Mortician wrote:
On November 01 2009 05:53 krom44 wrote:
i just can't fathom why oz wouldn't play jaedong in the ace match


They promised his parents not to use him as the team's tool of winning or sum shit liek dat


eh isn't it his JOB?

Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people.

R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on.

And T1 "failed" during r1 and still managed to win PL finals.

ill say it again, you cant compare t1's lineup then and oz's lineup now. t1 had best(was still good), bisu, fantasy. oz now has jaedong and maybe hiya but he's a big IF. They are looking exactly like KTF last season.

Also, I dont see anyone stepping up, ala violet, for OZ anytime soon. Perfectman and killer are both all hype.
Woo Jung Ho
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 01 2009 03:49 GMT
#1007
On November 01 2009 12:39 iLoveKT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:22 Harem wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:18 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:13 nayumi wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:04 iloveHieu wrote:
On November 01 2009 06:02 Mortician wrote:
On November 01 2009 05:53 krom44 wrote:
i just can't fathom why oz wouldn't play jaedong in the ace match


They promised his parents not to use him as the team's tool of winning or sum shit liek dat


eh isn't it his JOB?

Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people.

R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on.

And T1 "failed" during r1 and still managed to win PL finals.

ill say it again, you cant compare t1's lineup then and oz's lineup now. t1 had best(was still good), bisu, fantasy. oz now has jaedong and maybe hiya but he's a big IF. They are looking exactly like KTF last season.

Also, I dont see anyone stepping up, ala violet, for OZ anytime soon. Perfectman and killer are both all hype.

You have forgotten about Oz's tactical genius, ggaemo.
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 01 2009 05:06 GMT
#1008
On November 01 2009 12:12 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

Recommending a game 4 is also a spoiler. And even if it wasn't labeled ace match, the fact that it wasn't on the initial lineup is a giveaway that it's an ace match.

Spoiler-free in the context of recommended games means that it doesn't give away the exact winners of the game in question. Obviously looking in recommended games at all has a chance of telling how far the match got.

On November 01 2009 12:14 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

lolwut

It gives away the exact winners of earlier games (in this case, games 3 and 4). And yes, recommending game 4 is also a spoiler.

It's simple not to spoil them--just use an extra spoiler, like this: + Show Spoiler [game 4/5 if necessary] +
.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 01 2009 11:58 GMT
#1009
Oh my, those storms gotta be in pimpest play 09-10.
Terrible Terrible damage!
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SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
November 02 2009 01:53 GMT
#1010
On November 01 2009 14:06 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:12 TheYango wrote:
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

Recommending a game 4 is also a spoiler. And even if it wasn't labeled ace match, the fact that it wasn't on the initial lineup is a giveaway that it's an ace match.

Spoiler-free in the context of recommended games means that it doesn't give away the exact winners of the game in question. Obviously looking in recommended games at all has a chance of telling how far the match got.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:14 konadora wrote:
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

lolwut

It gives away the exact winners of earlier games (in this case, games 3 and 4). And yes, recommending game 4 is also a spoiler.

It's simple not to spoil them--just use an extra spoiler, like this: + Show Spoiler [game 4/5 if necessary] +
.


err wow, if you're going straight to recommended games then you don't want to see the entire series thus you shouldn't care about the overall result
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Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
November 02 2009 02:18 GMT
#1011
On November 01 2009 12:39 iLoveKT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:22 Harem wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:18 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:13 nayumi wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:04 iloveHieu wrote:
On November 01 2009 06:02 Mortician wrote:
On November 01 2009 05:53 krom44 wrote:
i just can't fathom why oz wouldn't play jaedong in the ace match


They promised his parents not to use him as the team's tool of winning or sum shit liek dat


eh isn't it his JOB?

Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people.

R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on.

And T1 "failed" during r1 and still managed to win PL finals.

ill say it again, you cant compare t1's lineup then and oz's lineup now. t1 had best(was still good), bisu, fantasy. oz now has jaedong and maybe hiya but he's a big IF. They are looking exactly like KTF last season.

Also, I dont see anyone stepping up, ala violet, for OZ anytime soon. Perfectman and killer are both all hype.


You never know when someone might step up. Remember that Violet used to have the lowest ELO of any active player.
BW forever || Thall
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 02 2009 03:06 GMT
#1012
On November 02 2009 10:53 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 14:06 qrs wrote:
On November 01 2009 12:12 TheYango wrote:
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

Recommending a game 4 is also a spoiler. And even if it wasn't labeled ace match, the fact that it wasn't on the initial lineup is a giveaway that it's an ace match.

Spoiler-free in the context of recommended games means that it doesn't give away the exact winners of the game in question. Obviously looking in recommended games at all has a chance of telling how far the match got.

On November 01 2009 12:14 konadora wrote:
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

lolwut

It gives away the exact winners of earlier games (in this case, games 3 and 4). And yes, recommending game 4 is also a spoiler.

It's simple not to spoil them--just use an extra spoiler, like this: + Show Spoiler [game 4/5 if necessary] +
.


err wow, if you're going straight to recommended games then you don't want to see the entire series thus you shouldn't care about the overall result

Not true. Case in point: interested in game 4, wanted to see if others were recommended, didn't want to spoil the results of a game I watched.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 02 2009 03:16 GMT
#1013
On November 01 2009 14:06 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:12 TheYango wrote:
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

Recommending a game 4 is also a spoiler. And even if it wasn't labeled ace match, the fact that it wasn't on the initial lineup is a giveaway that it's an ace match.

Spoiler-free in the context of recommended games means that it doesn't give away the exact winners of the game in question. Obviously looking in recommended games at all has a chance of telling how far the match got.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 12:14 konadora wrote:
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote:
If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games.

lolwut

It gives away the exact winners of earlier games (in this case, games 3 and 4). And yes, recommending game 4 is also a spoiler.

It's simple not to spoil them--just use an extra spoiler, like this: + Show Spoiler [game 4/5 if necessary] +
.

Actually no it doesn't. You don't know which combination of players won which games, so it in essence doesn't spoil anything.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 02 2009 03:26 GMT
#1014
Well, sometimes it does spoil the results, but seriously, are the results so important that you complain over a minor issue like this?
I guess you could partition recs into 1-3, and 4-5. That's not too big of a hassle.
Jaedong
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 04:18:36
November 02 2009 04:17 GMT
#1015
Well, I didn't think my post would be such a big deal. I don't mind if the recommended games spoil some of the results, but if it says they don't include spoilers, I would expect them not to include spoilers for any of the games. I thought it was worth pointing out the oversight to the OP, that's all.

Roffles, suppose you are watching game 4, and you know the match goes to ace. Then you know who wins the 4th game.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
November 02 2009 05:04 GMT
#1016
Every team plays their rookie players against ACE. They figure ACE is a crappy team so it's a relatively safe way to give their players experience. Oz isn't the first team to lose a game to ACE. IIRC ACE won 3 or 4 games one round, and I think they were against all different teams.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
November 02 2009 05:17 GMT
#1017
On November 02 2009 14:04 Zzoram wrote:
Every team plays their rookie players against ACE. They figure ACE is a crappy team so it's a relatively safe way to give their players experience. Oz isn't the first team to lose a game to ACE. IIRC ACE won 3 or 4 games one round, and I think they were against all different teams.


KHAN almost lost. But KHAN was smart in sending a good ACE.
:]
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 05:20:37
November 02 2009 05:20 GMT
#1018
ACE has an good ace. Ruby has been destroying good players left and right.

2 bad they never play him for ace
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Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
November 02 2009 06:18 GMT
#1019
Oh my god Oz loses to ACE. WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO ???
Jk, nice play by ACE!
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mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
November 03 2009 11:44 GMT
#1020
On November 01 2009 05:38 zazen wrote:
What boggles me is not the fact that they don't send JD - its' probably related to some "let's preserve JD" bullshit - but why not send someone other than freaking KILLER? The guy is terrible, and I can't imagine his play in pratice game being so much better that makes him Oz Ace player.

Send anyone else. Send Lomo, whatever.

Same here. Jaedong may not play that's fine (that's even good for Oz, to be less dependent of him). But why KILLER, why?
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