EPTActually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people.
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66071 Posts
On November 01 2009 11:24 qrs wrote: If you're going to bill the recommended games as spoiler-free, then you should make them spoiler-free. Labeling a spoiler "ACE match" spoils earlier games. lolwut | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On November 01 2009 12:13 nayumi wrote: Actually I don't think it's a part of the contract or anything. It's just Oz wanting to build a stronger lineup. Let's not forget this is R1 people. R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on. | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
On November 01 2009 12:18 MuffinDude wrote: R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on. And T1 "failed" during r1 and still managed to win PL finals. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On November 01 2009 12:18 MuffinDude wrote: R1 is pretty important, khan beasted r1 and r2, which is why they made it to playoffs even though they failed later on. I mean Oz knew they could always abuse JD's strength to win their games. But when it comes to playoffs with Bo7, they are gonna lose badly due to lacking of depth. So throwing away R1, R2 or even this season to boost up their young players' confidence and experience is, in my opinion, a decent move. Having said that, I don't really have faith in Killer. I know he's still young and stuff but I don't see any spark of talent in him, at all. Maybe he needs more time, I don't know, but I really think that Oz should place their bet on another player. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
On November 01 2009 12:22 Harem wrote: And T1 "failed" during r1 and still managed to win PL finals. ill say it again, you cant compare t1's lineup then and oz's lineup now. t1 had best(was still good), bisu, fantasy. oz now has jaedong and maybe hiya but he's a big IF. They are looking exactly like KTF last season. Also, I dont see anyone stepping up, ala violet, for OZ anytime soon. Perfectman and killer are both all hype. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 01 2009 12:39 iLoveKT wrote: ill say it again, you cant compare t1's lineup then and oz's lineup now. t1 had best(was still good), bisu, fantasy. oz now has jaedong and maybe hiya but he's a big IF. They are looking exactly like KTF last season. Also, I dont see anyone stepping up, ala violet, for OZ anytime soon. Perfectman and killer are both all hype. You have forgotten about Oz's tactical genius, ggaemo. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On November 01 2009 12:12 TheYango wrote: Recommending a game 4 is also a spoiler. And even if it wasn't labeled ace match, the fact that it wasn't on the initial lineup is a giveaway that it's an ace match. Spoiler-free in the context of recommended games means that it doesn't give away the exact winners of the game in question. Obviously looking in recommended games at all has a chance of telling how far the match got. It gives away the exact winners of earlier games (in this case, games 3 and 4). And yes, recommending game 4 is also a spoiler. It's simple not to spoil them--just use an extra spoiler, like this: + Show Spoiler [game 4/5 if necessary] + . | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Terrible Terrible damage! | ||
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SwEEt[TearS]
Canada1575 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:06 qrs wrote: It gives away the exact winners of earlier games (in this case, games 3 and 4). And yes, recommending game 4 is also a spoiler. It's simple not to spoil them--just use an extra spoiler, like this: + Show Spoiler [game 4/5 if necessary] + . err wow, if you're going straight to recommended games then you don't want to see the entire series thus you shouldn't care about the overall result | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On November 01 2009 12:39 iLoveKT wrote: ill say it again, you cant compare t1's lineup then and oz's lineup now. t1 had best(was still good), bisu, fantasy. oz now has jaedong and maybe hiya but he's a big IF. They are looking exactly like KTF last season. Also, I dont see anyone stepping up, ala violet, for OZ anytime soon. Perfectman and killer are both all hype. You never know when someone might step up. Remember that Violet used to have the lowest ELO of any active player. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On November 02 2009 10:53 SwEEt[TearS] wrote: err wow, if you're going straight to recommended games then you don't want to see the entire series thus you shouldn't care about the overall result Not true. Case in point: interested in game 4, wanted to see if others were recommended, didn't want to spoil the results of a game I watched. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:06 qrs wrote: It gives away the exact winners of earlier games (in this case, games 3 and 4). And yes, recommending game 4 is also a spoiler. It's simple not to spoil them--just use an extra spoiler, like this: + Show Spoiler [game 4/5 if necessary] + . Actually no it doesn't. You don't know which combination of players won which games, so it in essence doesn't spoil anything. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
I guess you could partition recs into 1-3, and 4-5. That's not too big of a hassle. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
Roffles, suppose you are watching game 4, and you know the match goes to ace. Then you know who wins the 4th game. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On November 02 2009 14:04 Zzoram wrote: Every team plays their rookie players against ACE. They figure ACE is a crappy team so it's a relatively safe way to give their players experience. Oz isn't the first team to lose a game to ACE. IIRC ACE won 3 or 4 games one round, and I think they were against all different teams. KHAN almost lost. But KHAN was smart in sending a good ACE. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
2 bad they never play him for ace | ||
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Sigh
Canada2433 Posts
Jk, nice play by ACE! | ||
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
On November 01 2009 05:38 zazen wrote: What boggles me is not the fact that they don't send JD - its' probably related to some "let's preserve JD" bullshit - but why not send someone other than freaking KILLER? The guy is terrible, and I can't imagine his play in pratice game being so much better that makes him Oz Ace player. Send anyone else. Send Lomo, whatever. Same here. Jaedong may not play that's fine (that's even good for Oz, to be less dependent of him). But why KILLER, why? | ||
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