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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 30 2009 10:56 GMT
#341
TvP is hwasin worst match-up, and i guess he was practicing his TvZ, since lux was the favorite

will we see the underdog win this one too?
BW is back
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
October 30 2009 10:56 GMT
#342
Lux is actually decent and above at all matchups unlike...that other guy that looks just like him haha.
Jaedong :3
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
October 30 2009 10:57 GMT
#343
On October 30 2009 19:53 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:49 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Thought Guemchi was going to lose soo many times. Miraculously held that 3rd Nexus..


Lux was pretty much 1a2a3aing his hydralisks. The 3rd Nexus held because he forgot what target fire means.

When I compared Lux to FBH it was obviously an exaggeration since very few players can be worse than FBH in that matchup but you could kind of tell he doesn't really know how to templar snipe or storm dodge. Dude was losing mutalisks are hydralisks to storm like every second.


oh come on...he was dodging storms pretty well with his hydras, more towards the end, maybe he could have done a little better but it wasnt as bad as u make it seem. the only thing (but i guess its huge) is losing 11 mutas to 1 storm...but its understandable, he went back to macro and left his mutas for 2 seconds..
#1 Movie fan~ he's got so much skill it oozes out of his skin in the form of acne. ~family comes first~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 30 2009 10:57 GMT
#344
On October 30 2009 19:55 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:54 MrHoon wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:52 samachking wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


dont underestimate the power of mass hydra/hydra breaks ZvP + all in backstabs ZvT + sick ass muta micro in ZvP/T. His ZvZ was the real deal too, dont forget he also won a WCG with the same stuff

Lux's ZvT and ZvZ was the real deal. His ZvP... Well... Eh, his ZvP sucked since 2007

Cmon guys, atleast Lux is so much more likable than Fake Yellow


His 08 ZvP was pretty darn good, lets not forget that he was the one who started this mass hydra into Muta snipe into GG trend, it might have not been pretty, but he was pretty good at it and had sick ass macro, I still remember him destroying Bisu in the 2008 Playoffs semis Ace match

Actually, the player who started the muta snipe trend was Yarnc =/
Close though!
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 30 2009 10:57 GMT
#345
On October 30 2009 19:55 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:54 MrHoon wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:52 samachking wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


dont underestimate the power of mass hydra/hydra breaks ZvP + all in backstabs ZvT + sick ass muta micro in ZvP/T. His ZvZ was the real deal too, dont forget he also won a WCG with the same stuff

Lux's ZvT and ZvZ was the real deal. His ZvP... Well... Eh, his ZvP sucked since 2007

Cmon guys, atleast Lux is so much more likable than Fake Yellow


His 08 ZvP was pretty darn good, lets not forget that he was the one who started this mass hydra into Muta snipe into GG trend, it might have not been pretty, but he was pretty good at it and had sick ass macro, I still remember him destroying Bisu in the 2008 Playoffs semis Ace match

lol it's kinda ironic for Lux to be using Hydras so much because Lux and yarnc used to criticize (Z)Silver for abusing Hydralisks in every single game and getting to finals in a gay way.
dats racist
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 30 2009 10:57 GMT
#346
On October 30 2009 19:55 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


oh yeah, you're a true fan of KT


Luxury was a bought player, like alot of KT.
sAviOr...
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
October 30 2009 10:58 GMT
#347
I feel sorry for whoever has to do OSL group recaps this week... lame games
ModeratorGood content always wins.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 30 2009 10:58 GMT
#348
On October 30 2009 19:57 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:55 UGC4 wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


oh yeah, you're a true fan of KT


Luxury was a bought player, like alot of KT.

But he won the MSL after he was bought
dats racist
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
October 30 2009 10:58 GMT
#349
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


His ZvZ and ZvT are or were top tier.

And His ZvP while terrible skillwise, is effective.

Z v P all ins are effective like no all ins in any other matchup

They don't take an immense amount of skill(progamerwise) and can work as a safety net. So the worst a zerg can do vs a protoss is to turn the game into a gamble by going all in.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
October 30 2009 10:59 GMT
#350
Nice, I woke up in time to see hwasin play.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 30 2009 10:59 GMT
#351
On October 30 2009 19:56 Jackal03 wrote:
TvP is hwasin worst match-up, and i guess he was practicing his TvZ, since lux was the favorite

will we see the underdog win this one too?

There will be alot of Angry STX and KT fans today if Guemchi wins
dats racist
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
October 30 2009 10:59 GMT
#352
On October 30 2009 19:57 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:55 samachking wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:54 MrHoon wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:52 samachking wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


dont underestimate the power of mass hydra/hydra breaks ZvP + all in backstabs ZvT + sick ass muta micro in ZvP/T. His ZvZ was the real deal too, dont forget he also won a WCG with the same stuff

Lux's ZvT and ZvZ was the real deal. His ZvP... Well... Eh, his ZvP sucked since 2007

Cmon guys, atleast Lux is so much more likable than Fake Yellow


His 08 ZvP was pretty darn good, lets not forget that he was the one who started this mass hydra into Muta snipe into GG trend, it might have not been pretty, but he was pretty good at it and had sick ass macro, I still remember him destroying Bisu in the 2008 Playoffs semis Ace match

Actually, the player who started the muta snipe trend was Yarnc =/
Close though!


I dont recall any games early 08/late 07 where Yarnc actually used mass hydra into muta snipe to win, can you link me please to some of these games?
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 30 2009 10:59 GMT
#353
On October 30 2009 19:58 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:57 Camlito wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:55 UGC4 wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


oh yeah, you're a true fan of KT


Luxury was a bought player, like alot of KT.

But he won the MSL after he was bought


True.. he coulda won it at hite though (the protoss practice partners at the time for both teams weren't.. spectacular lol)
sAviOr...
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
October 30 2009 10:59 GMT
#354
Luxury pulling a 180 this season. Sucking in the SL and kicking ass in the PL. That was quite bad.

On October 30 2009 19:55 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:54 MrHoon wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:52 samachking wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


dont underestimate the power of mass hydra/hydra breaks ZvP + all in backstabs ZvT + sick ass muta micro in ZvP/T. His ZvZ was the real deal too, dont forget he also won a WCG with the same stuff

Lux's ZvT and ZvZ was the real deal. His ZvP... Well... Eh, his ZvP sucked since 2007

Cmon guys, atleast Lux is so much more likable than Fake Yellow


His 08 ZvP was pretty darn good, lets not forget that he was the one who started this mass hydra into Muta snipe into GG trend, it might have not been pretty, but he was pretty good at it and had sick ass macro, I still remember him destroying Bisu in the 2008 Playoffs semis Ace match


Huh? Luxury started the whole rush-every-game ZvP that's focused on ending the game before the 4th hatch(and usually even lair) went up. The guy is the polar opposite of the 3-base 5-hatch play that's currently dominating ZvP.
Meh
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
October 30 2009 10:59 GMT
#355
On October 30 2009 19:57 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:55 UGC4 wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


oh yeah, you're a true fan of KT


Luxury was a bought player, like alot of KT.


yeah so? he's still in KT, and he's been there for a while now. KT wouldn't be doing so hot without him, and lots of ppl are talkn crap just now that he loses against a player that was well prepared. i dont quite get it
#1 Movie fan~ he's got so much skill it oozes out of his skin in the form of acne. ~family comes first~
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 30 2009 11:00 GMT
#356
The commentators are saying that the storm that Guemchi used to kill Lux's mutas killed 11 mutas with one storm... Holy shit.
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 30 2009 11:01 GMT
#357
On October 30 2009 19:59 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:57 Camlito wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:55 UGC4 wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:50 iLoveKT wrote:
I still dont get why this guy won an MSL.


oh yeah, you're a true fan of KT


Luxury was a bought player, like alot of KT.


yeah so? he's still in KT, and he's been there for a while now. KT wouldn't be doing so hot without him, and lots of ppl are talkn crap just now that he loses against a player that was well prepared. i dont quite get it


Since he joined KT, he won an MSL pretty shortly after, then slumped horribly for ages, not helping KT at all, now he's finally back to playing at least somewhat like he used to, but he can still lose to guemchi if he wants.
sAviOr...
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 30 2009 11:01 GMT
#358
On October 30 2009 20:00 SilverskY wrote:
The commentators are saying that the storm that Guemchi used to kill Lux's mutas killed 11 mutas with one storm... Holy shit.

no silversky! bad!
*fly spray*
dats racist
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 30 2009 11:01 GMT
#359
On October 30 2009 19:57 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 19:53 Womwomwom wrote:
On October 30 2009 19:49 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Thought Guemchi was going to lose soo many times. Miraculously held that 3rd Nexus..


Lux was pretty much 1a2a3aing his hydralisks. The 3rd Nexus held because he forgot what target fire means.

When I compared Lux to FBH it was obviously an exaggeration since very few players can be worse than FBH in that matchup but you could kind of tell he doesn't really know how to templar snipe or storm dodge. Dude was losing mutalisks are hydralisks to storm like every second.


oh come on...he was dodging storms pretty well with his hydras, more towards the end, maybe he could have done a little better but it wasnt as bad as u make it seem. the only thing (but i guess its huge) is losing 11 mutas to 1 storm...but its understandable, he went back to macro and left his mutas for 2 seconds..

Taking 70 damage on all your hydras before getting them out of the storm isnt good dodging. It might look ok since not alot of them died but the few times he did dodge his units were so weak they died in one or two hits to zlots.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 30 2009 11:01 GMT
#360
On October 30 2009 20:01 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 20:00 SilverskY wrote:
The commentators are saying that the storm that Guemchi used to kill Lux's mutas killed 11 mutas with one storm... Holy shit.

no silversky! bad!
*fly spray*

GAH GAH, GET AWAY FROM ME!
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